[Jack Bauer]

The summer thread was too depressing (at least for me) so let's start a new one.

What do you expect to see (besides Honda) ?

[William405]

You guys keep nagging about the youth project..and how Galliani didn't follow his project, but have absolutely no patience to see someone develop. El Sharaawy has shown us glimpses of what he can do, he certainly has the potential and the mentality to become very good, yet you prefer the provincial Matri...

[han2503]

You guys keep nagging about the youth project..and how Galliani didn't follow his project, but have absolutely no patience to see someone develop. El Sharaawy has shown us glimpses of what he can do, he certainly has the potential and the mentality to become very good, yet you prefer the provincial Matri...

Yep.

Listen, I'm not someone who thinks El Shaarawy is the second coming or that he's as good as Neymar ((IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ), had we received some ridiculous offer like say 45m from an oil club then I'd have said sell him because he'll never be worth that amount, even in his peak years.

But, the kid IS talented, just not WINGER talented, but certainly FAR more talented than Matri even in the finishing department. He works hard both on and off the pitch, he's a well behaved guy who we never heard an inkling of misbehaviour about, him and Balo are showing some great glimpses of link up play, he's very fast, something we need considering Kaka has lost his turn of pace and Balo isn't really that quick, he's still very young, and I think people forget that especially after what he did in his first months last season where he carried the team like a seasoned pro and not someone who's coming out of Serie B with barely a handful of Serie A games to his name from the previous season.

Taking all that into consideration, to bench him for a player like Matri is absolute madness, and no it won't be like Sheva and Gila, simply because Sheva was a completely different player to Balo and unlike Sheva, Balo likes to occupy the CF position on the pitch, which is where Matri would slot in because he can't do anything else.

And yes we spent 12m on Matri, but does that mean we have to use him? Even if he flops like a big fish on land? Matri was an unneeded player and the only way he should be used is as Balo's sub

[kurtsimonw]

he's very fast

He's really not.

[han2503]

He's really not.

Have you actually seen him play? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

He's certainly the fastest player in our attack.

No he's not a good dribbler acid, which is why it's absolutely ridiculous that he's used as a winger. But that's not his fault

[acid911]

But that's not his fault

That's a very agreeable proposition. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

[ganney]

the real problem we're having here is lack of a proper vision shown by both the coach and the management

there's absolutely no correlation between the supposed youth project, the striker we eventually got and the amount spent.

let's go back a bit to selling pato in january for 15m, i never liked the idea, we really should have just sent him on a loan to rehabilitate himself, gain his fitness and confidence back, especially as we've now spent 12m on a 29yr old matri and we just extended the robinho deal ( another 29yr old who was soooo terrible last 6mths)

had pato gone on loan instead of an outright sale for a meager 15m our strike force would have been :

balo 23yrs (4m/season)
pato 24yrs (a renegotiated deal as his contract was winding down)
el-sha 20 yrs old (2m)
pazzini 29yrs (2.7m)
petagna- 18yrs (decent back-up happy for now to play for peanut wages) & other primavera kids like kingsley boateng have gotten the odd game or two

matri- would not have been bought for 12m (from juve) or given 2.6m/season for 4years
robinho- would have been sold/contract not extended/ given away to santos for next to nothing to get him off our squad
niang- given to genoa in exchange for a more useful player

[acid911]

the real problem we're having here is lack of a proper vision shown by both the coach and the management

there's absolutely no correlation between the supposed youth project, the striker we eventually got and the amount spent.

let's go back a bit to selling pato in january for 15m, i never liked the idea, we really should have just sent him on a loan to rehabilitate himself, gain his fitness and confidence back, especially as we've now spent 12m on a 29yr old matri and we just extended the robinho deal ( another 29yr old who was soooo terrible last 6mths)

had pato gone on loan instead of an outright sale for a meager 15m our strike force would have been :

balo 23yrs (4m/season)
pato 24yrs (a renegotiated deal as his contract was winding down)
el-sha 20 yrs old (2m)
pazzini 29yrs (2.7m)
petagna- 18yrs (decent back-up happy for now to play for peanut wages) & other primavera kids like kingsley boateng have gotten the odd game or two

matri- would not have been bought for 12m (from juve) or given 2.6m/season for 4years
robinho- would have been sold/contract not extended/ given away to santos for next to nothing to get him off our squad
niang- given to genoa in exchange for a more useful player

Agreed once again! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) With everything you posted! But I guess Galliani maliciously wanted Pato out, and Allegri did not want him either. I mean, you miss a penalty and then get crucified for all your past sins. I don't know whether Pato goes to the World Cup next year or not, but if Ancelotti stays at Madrid, I can see him going there.