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Allegri's faiths
Should Allegri continue another term as Milan's coach next season?
Regardless of the seasons's outcome - No! [ 5 ] ** [22.73%]
If we don't win the scudetto - No! [ 4 ] ** [18.18%]
Regardless of the seasons's outcome! - Yes! [ 7 ] ** [31.82%]
If we win the scudetto - Yes! [ 6 ] ** [27.27%]
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Fillipo Simone
post Apr 9 2012, 07:58 PM
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post Apr 30 2012, 02:02 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Not really no. Carlo would fail miserably with the team we have on our roster now.

This is why I don't want Max out. Most people when they want Max out are falling into the same trap as people who want Pato, Rino, Seedorf etc etc out. Assuming that their going out automatically means someone of a higher quality is coming in as if these people were occupying space and that was the only reason management were not getting anyone in. Whereas it's obvious that when they want to or when the price is right, the management has no problem pushing someone out. (Pirlo, Kaka, Sheva etc)

The fact is if were to be really dispassionate, we don't have good enough replacements for Max. Realistically there is Gasperini and Benitez. The rest of them are tied up or not quality enough.

Hiddink is not available and will not want this sort of pressure again.
Pep even without the Ibra factor, will not want to come to Milan where the media are worse and even the fans are not unconditional.
Spalletti said that he is not interested in moving away.
Same with Capello who said he doesn't wish to come to Milan without a project in place which is just not there.

To let a coach go without having any precise idea who to approach next and why (as I'm sure is the case) will be the downfall. It's always a surefire recipe for disaster and we have seen it happen to every time.

For me the way forward is for the management and the coach to sit together and do a clear discussion on where things are different. Like it or not, Max has to accept that it is Silvio who puts food on the table, and see if Silvio's demands can be met. For eg. If Silvio wants pretty football, then Max has to say Yes. But Max is within his right then to say that he wants Players or rather Player Types X, Y and Z.

The playing philosophy, the playing lineup, the training methods, the stadium turf...every single thing must be put on the agenda and discussed and resolved.
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post Apr 30 2012, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 30 2012, 03:02 PM) *
Most people when they want Max out are falling into the same trap as people who want Pato, Rino, Seedorf etc etc out. Assuming that their going out automatically means someone of a higher quality is coming in as if these people were occupying space and that was the only reason management were not getting anyone in.


Rino and Seedorf are quality? It'd take nothing to replace washed up players like them. Same argument about Yepes, Zambrotta, Ambrosini, Inzaghi etc. If we could replace Nesta with Ogbonna and Bommel with Keita, then replacing the rest of the senators won't be a problem at all. Their current contribution to this team is practically null, and I can't see how Montolivo or Muntari can't do what Seedorf or Gattuso actually do, much, much better.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 30 2012, 05:52 PM) *
But problem is, Ancelotti did understand the concept of a midfield with vision, he coached Zidane after all, he had a Parma with vision prior to Milan and he played at a pretty flashy Milan earlier. My point is, although he was too defensive, he never misunderstood the importance of creation. Allegri seems to do just that - look at the players he's having trouble to find a place - it's Aquilani, it was Dinho, it's also Robinho to an extent.


Exactly.
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- Fillipo Simone   Allegri's faiths   Apr 9 2012, 07:58 PM
- - acid911   If we win the Scudetto? Yes!   Apr 9 2012, 08:10 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   If we win the scudetto - Yes! and If we don...   Apr 9 2012, 08:22 PM
- - CHU-LIP   I voted for the latter, because it depends on who ...   Apr 9 2012, 08:53 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Which names scare you. MvB is the only one who...   Apr 9 2012, 08:54 PM
|- - CHU-LIP   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 9 2012, 09:54...   Apr 9 2012, 08:57 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Apr 9 2012, 09:57 P...   Apr 9 2012, 09:28 PM
- - Zed.D   QUOTE Regardless of the seasons's outcome...   Apr 9 2012, 09:25 PM
- - acid911   I'd take Fabio too gladly, just no to Seedorf....   Apr 9 2012, 09:33 PM
- - X-Offender   Regardless of the seasons's outcome - No! ...   Apr 9 2012, 09:47 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 9 2012, 09:4...   Apr 29 2012, 12:40 AM
||- - Jack Sparrow   QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 29 2012, 05:10 AM) Nev...   Apr 30 2012, 09:25 AM
|- - TriniKing_CE   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 9 2012, 04:4...   Apr 29 2012, 07:03 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Yeah, he'd be much better then van Basten and ...   Apr 9 2012, 09:58 PM
- - kurtsimonw   Regardless of outcome - yes.   Apr 9 2012, 10:09 PM
- - drucurl   This is a hard one. As much as I don't like hi...   Apr 10 2012, 02:10 AM
|- - kurtsimonw   Interesting balance so far.   Apr 10 2012, 03:55 AM
- - Rossoneri7   If he doesn't win, he should be ousted.   Apr 10 2012, 07:24 AM
- - William405   Regardless of the seasons's outcome! - Yes...   Apr 10 2012, 09:17 AM
- - Jack Sparrow   If he doesn't win he needs to leave. I'm s...   Apr 10 2012, 10:01 AM
- - acid911   Could this guy's opinion be more divided?...   Apr 10 2012, 12:04 PM
- - han2503   Only if he wins the Scudetto. He's walking a v...   Apr 10 2012, 06:50 PM
- - drucurl   sack   Apr 22 2012, 05:07 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   If we can sign this man, it would be a huge step f...   Apr 23 2012, 08:18 AM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 23 2012, 12:1...   Apr 23 2012, 08:22 AM
- - Jack Sparrow   With the bad boys we've got, I wonder if Fabio...   Apr 23 2012, 09:24 AM
- - Zed.D   I don't think Milan will sack Allegri no matte...   Apr 23 2012, 06:23 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 23 2012, 07:23 PM) If ...   Apr 23 2012, 06:33 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   So you think Hiddink would be a step forward but C...   Apr 23 2012, 06:48 PM
- - Zed.D   Yes, because as I said Capello's style is very...   Apr 23 2012, 07:32 PM
- - acid911   If we can convince Rijkaard to forgo the gold coin...   Apr 23 2012, 10:04 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Hiddink is a small club coach who's never able...   Apr 23 2012, 11:06 PM
|- - Jack Bauer   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 24 2012, 01:0...   Apr 23 2012, 11:45 PM
|- - Zed.D   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 24 2012, 02:3...   Apr 24 2012, 07:14 AM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 24 2012, 08:14 AM) Sud...   Apr 24 2012, 07:29 AM
- - acid911   Agreed Fillipo. No comparison between the two. Ge...   Apr 23 2012, 11:18 PM
- - X-Offender   It looks like the players have revolted against Al...   Apr 24 2012, 02:43 PM
- - Zed.D   QUOTE Now everyone, from Nesta to Zambrotta, from ...   Apr 24 2012, 04:24 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 24 2012, 08:24 PM) As ...   Apr 24 2012, 08:58 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (acid911 @ Apr 24 2012, 09:58 PM) W...   Apr 24 2012, 09:49 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   I think it's weird too. Maybe there were disag...   Apr 24 2012, 04:32 PM
- - X-Offender   Oh, I wouldn't be so sure about that.   Apr 24 2012, 04:44 PM
- - Zed.D   Well, the man himself says he acted that way becau...   Apr 25 2012, 03:21 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   I really don't get the fuss over it. This isn...   Apr 25 2012, 03:29 PM
- - drucurl   A full player revolt USED to be unthinkable. Now w...   Apr 25 2012, 04:00 PM
- - han2503   Imo, it's pretty clear right now. Allegri has ...   Apr 25 2012, 04:11 PM
- - nuh   I'm sorry but no matter how small minded u thi...   Apr 25 2012, 04:11 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (nuh @ Apr 25 2012, 03:11 PM) I...   Apr 25 2012, 04:22 PM
|- - nuh   QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 25 2012, 03:22 PM) W...   Apr 25 2012, 04:57 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (nuh @ Apr 25 2012, 04:57 PM) i was...   Apr 25 2012, 04:59 PM
- - X-Offender   So, I was right about Allegri all along.   Apr 26 2012, 12:35 AM
- - Zed.D   QUOTE Regardless of the seasons's outcome...   Apr 29 2012, 06:09 PM
- - Zed.D   Then who do you want? no MvB. no Frankie. not Alle...   Apr 30 2012, 01:08 PM
- - kurtsimonw   Probably Ancelotti.   Apr 30 2012, 01:21 PM
|- - kurtsimonw   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 30 2012, 02:02 ...   Apr 30 2012, 02:43 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   Gasperini would play his 3-4-3 rigidly. Plus he ha...   Apr 30 2012, 03:02 PM
- - han2503   I don't see how keeping Allegri at this point ...   Apr 30 2012, 03:48 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   Allegri from football-italia: QUOTE Milan boss Ma...   Apr 30 2012, 04:01 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   I honestly want him out. I don't see his plan ...   Apr 30 2012, 04:31 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   Well I think if he continues with the plan/mindset...   Apr 30 2012, 04:48 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Apr 30 2012, 05:48 ...   Apr 30 2012, 04:52 PM
|- - drucurl   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 30 2012, 11:5...   Apr 30 2012, 05:53 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   Well..this ends the debate. Pretty okay with this ...   May 4 2012, 10:05 AM
- - kurtsimonw   Wait.. Silvio doing the right thing!? WHAT...   May 4 2012, 10:08 AM
- - Zed.D   Right decision. I don't want to go back to squ...   May 4 2012, 12:27 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 4 2012, 11:27 AM) Righ...   May 4 2012, 01:20 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   It's not Muntari that bothers me. It's the...   May 4 2012, 01:58 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 4 2012, 02:58 P...   May 4 2012, 02:16 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ May 4 2012, 12:58 P...   May 4 2012, 04:18 PM
- - Zed.D   QUOTE he ruins everything he touches Han, you...   May 4 2012, 06:34 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Zed.D @ May 4 2012, 06:34 PM) Han,...   May 4 2012, 07:28 PM
- - Zed.D   LOL If you think he's ruined everything he...   May 4 2012, 07:52 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   He's done it before with Ambrosini, I'm ju...   May 5 2012, 07:04 AM
- - Zed.D   ^^ This I can agree with.   May 5 2012, 07:24 AM
- - drucurl   Wow. Anyone read $itlegri's latest interv...   May 26 2012, 05:50 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (drucurl @ May 26 2012, 05:50 PM) W...   May 27 2012, 12:32 PM
|- - drucurl   QUOTE (han2503 @ May 27 2012, 07:32 AM) I...   May 28 2012, 01:24 AM
- - CHU-LIP   Changing the athletic training? "There will b...   Jun 4 2012, 03:35 AM
- - Bluesummers   QUOTE (drucurl @ May 27 2012, 07:24 PM) H...   Jun 7 2012, 08:44 AM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jun 7 2012, 12:44 PM...   Jun 7 2012, 09:35 AM
- - Zed.D   Guardiola. I read he once said he'd be nothin...   Jun 7 2012, 09:16 PM
- - Bluesummers   QUOTE (acid911 @ Jun 7 2012, 03:35 AM) An...   Jun 8 2012, 09:14 AM
- - Zed.D   Yea I guess you're right.   Jun 8 2012, 09:34 AM


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