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Feb 20 2012, 02:54 PM
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The big game we've been talking about for more than a month now. If we win this I'll fly to Milan and kiss Allegri's feet. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) That being said, we do have a lot of injuries and potentially no Ibra. My only fear is that we'll see the same midfield we saw against Cesena. And that won't be pretty against Juve
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Feb 22 2012, 08:27 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 22 2012, 07:51 PM)  The issue of his injuries being psychological has been discussed plenty of times in the media, and I made a specific reference to it. The fact you don't buy it doesn't make my point absurd. I didn't say it's the main reason, but it's been preventing him from making steps forward. And there is some truth in that.
It happens to everyone, but not on a regular basis as in the case of Pato. Consider Boateng against Arsenal. He was coming from a month-long injury, yet he made a terrific performance, even though he wasn't ready yet and it was giving him problems throughout the match. I wish Pato would show such determination, at least in the games he's fit. But no, he's too scared to force himself, otherwise he'll get injured again.
But this season Cassano had to forfeit and Robinho was having a crappy run until the match against Arsenal. We had to rely on Ibra once again. That's why I wanted Tevez so much. If we had an all-star attack like you say, then Pato would have been excused. But the current circumstances required his presence. And that's why fans are frustrated. I do believe that his psychological issues factor in. But I don't think they're the reason that he get's the injuries to begin with, I do think that as you say, they hold him back from playing 100% when he returns but imo, they're not the cause for the injuries themselves. They're the cause for the hesitancy in his play though, that I do agree with youBoateng is only just starting to experience such injury issues in his career (which is another huge worry for me), this is the 3rd season for Pato, when it was just the first few occasions, he got back in no problem and played with that confidence he used to have, but last season, and this one, when they started to come more frequently, he started to hold back a lot more. You can't really compare the 2 situations. It's understandable for him to have that worry at the back of his mind, while for Boateng it's not as pressing as it is for Pato.You do have a point with Cassano and Robinho. But Tevez wouldn't have solved anything, not this season anyway, he hadn't kicked a ball for months, you think he'd just have slipped into the team seamlessly and started playing every 3 days from the off. He'd still probably be doing preperation training now with us.
And yes Robinho and Cassano were unexpected issues, but Cassano will be back next season while Robinho is always a bit of a gamble but has chipped in a lot this season and last, even while playing like c@p (it's mostly his finishing that is cr@p btw). And now with El Shaa's rise and Maxi also chipping in, it will give even more breathing room for Pato. I know it's frustrating, and you just want to go there and shake the sh!t out of him. But for me, I'm willing to wait a maximum of 2 more seasons before I throw in the towel. I know you feel that's too long a time to wait, but I think we canot really judge until he's around the 25 year mark. Plus he's not going to be worth a lot now either, so I'm willing to wait it out, because if he does get over this it will be hugely beneficial to the club. Think a Balo, Pato, El Shaa attacking trio in the future would look good
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han2503 Serie A - Week 25 - Milan - Juventus Feb 20 2012, 02:54 PM TriniKing_CE QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 20 2012, 09:54 AM) T... Feb 20 2012, 04:05 PM Danny Boateng's absence is massive. He's been ou... Feb 20 2012, 04:58 PM X-Offender QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 20 2012, 04:58 PM) Boa... Feb 20 2012, 05:06 PM  Danny QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 20 2012, 04... Feb 20 2012, 05:11 PM han2503 QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Feb 20 2012, 04:05 ... Feb 20 2012, 05:26 PM acid911 Any talk about the best players in the Italian lea... Feb 20 2012, 07:15 PM Rossoneri7 QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 20 2012, 09:15 PM) A... Feb 20 2012, 09:29 PM Jack Sparrow What the man said. Exactly what he said. Feb 20 2012, 10:04 PM acid911 Well Ibra himself said that Silva is better than P... Feb 20 2012, 10:39 PM X-Offender QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 20 2012, 10:39 PM) I... Feb 21 2012, 12:11 AM Danny One thing, one team mate describing another as tru... Feb 20 2012, 10:42 PM acid911 Yeah, I am aware of that, but this is something sp... Feb 20 2012, 11:00 PM KillerMax I gotta say though, Mexes looks really good too. H... Feb 21 2012, 12:33 AM X-Offender QUOTE (KillerMax @ Feb 21 2012, 12:33 AM)... Feb 21 2012, 12:37 AM William405 QUOTE (KillerMax @ Feb 21 2012, 01:33 AM)... Feb 21 2012, 09:42 AM acid911 Agree with both you guys, X-Off and Max. This is ... Feb 21 2012, 01:01 AM Fillipo Simone When did this exactly became the defenders thread? Feb 21 2012, 10:50 AM acid911 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 21 2012, 02:5... Feb 21 2012, 02:26 PM Danny fwiw I do thoroughly rate Silva too, best defender... Feb 21 2012, 02:52 PM acid911 Agreed, but times are a changing. The way the gam... Feb 21 2012, 02:59 PM Danny QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 21 2012, 01:59 PM) A... Feb 22 2012, 03:06 PM  acid911 QUOTE (Danny @ Feb 22 2012, 07:06 PM) If ... Feb 22 2012, 04:45 PM drucurl Great discussion guys. Yeah I agree that for a lon... Feb 21 2012, 03:22 PM acid911 Agreed. The thing with great defenders (like grea... Feb 21 2012, 03:59 PM William405 Depends on perspective I guess. Feb 21 2012, 07:05 PM d'Arc.LP Sheva: "If Pato should play vs. Juventus, the... Feb 21 2012, 08:11 PM KillerMax Oh Sheva Feb 21 2012, 08:13 PM X-Offender The current Sheva has more chances of making the d... Feb 21 2012, 08:17 PM Fillipo Simone QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 21 2012, 08... Feb 21 2012, 08:24 PM  X-Offender QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 21 2012, 08:2... Feb 21 2012, 08:27 PM   Fillipo Simone QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 21 2012, 08... Feb 21 2012, 08:58 PM    X-Offender QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 21 2012, 08:5... Feb 21 2012, 09:15 PM han2503 If Pato can't get a run of at least 5 straight... Feb 21 2012, 09:44 PM amancik Yeah, I'm beginning to lose hope on this guy. ... Feb 21 2012, 09:45 PM X-Offender QUOTE (amancik @ Feb 21 2012, 09:45 PM) Y... Feb 21 2012, 10:50 PM drucurl QUOTE (amancik @ Feb 21 2012, 04:45 PM) Y... Feb 22 2012, 04:00 PM drucurl I think it's incredible how fickle football fa... Feb 22 2012, 11:31 AM Zed.D Ridiculing Pato for having a bad season which is m... Feb 22 2012, 11:37 AM Fillipo Simone QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 22 2012, 11:37 AM) Rid... Feb 22 2012, 12:05 PM  X-Offender QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 22 2012, 12:0... Feb 22 2012, 04:29 PM   Fillipo Simone QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 22 2012, 04... Feb 22 2012, 04:34 PM    X-Offender QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 22 2012, 04:3... Feb 22 2012, 04:45 PM     Zed.D QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 22 2012, 08... Feb 22 2012, 05:04 PM      X-Offender QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 22 2012, 05:04 PM) If ... Feb 22 2012, 05:10 PM       Zed.D QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 22 2012, 07... Feb 22 2012, 05:25 PM        KillerMax QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 22 2012, 10:25 AM) I s... Feb 22 2012, 05:29 PM         Zed.D QUOTE (KillerMax @ Feb 22 2012, 08:59 PM)... Feb 22 2012, 05:42 PM         William405 QUOTE (KillerMax @ Feb 22 2012, 06:29 PM)... Feb 22 2012, 07:22 PM han2503 QUOTE (drucurl @ Feb 22 2012, 12:29 PM) E... Feb 22 2012, 04:04 PM drucurl QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 22 2012, 11:04 AM) I... Feb 22 2012, 04:33 PM Fillipo Simone It's a thing humans do han Feb 22 2012, 04:27 PM drucurl I must say this place is infinitely more reasonabl... Feb 22 2012, 04:42 PM X-Offender Ibra is definitely in the top five right now, alon... Feb 22 2012, 04:48 PM han2503 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 22 2012, 04... Feb 22 2012, 05:30 PM X-Offender QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 22 2012, 05:25 PM) Fir... Feb 22 2012, 07:51 PM Zed.D QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 22 2012, 10... Feb 22 2012, 08:52 PM  X-Offender QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 22 2012, 08:52 PM) You... Feb 23 2012, 12:06 AM   drucurl QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 22 2012, 07... Feb 23 2012, 12:47 AM   Fillipo Simone QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 23 2012, 12... Feb 23 2012, 01:38 AM    Zed.D QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 23 2012, 04:0... Feb 23 2012, 10:18 AM Zed.D QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 22 2012, 10:57 PM) B... Feb 22 2012, 08:56 PM Jack Bauer For now, both sky and gazzetta have the same line-... Feb 22 2012, 08:38 PM han2503 QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Feb 22 2012, 08:38 PM... Feb 22 2012, 08:46 PM Jack Bauer Maybe Real would be interested. Marca had a Ramos ... Feb 23 2012, 12:16 AM X-Offender Did you forget his injuries, Fillipo? Because that... Feb 23 2012, 05:33 AM han2503 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 23 2012, 01:3... Feb 23 2012, 10:21 AM Zed.D QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 23 2012, 12:51 PM) I... Feb 23 2012, 10:32 AM Jack Sparrow If our medical team really is as crap as we suspec... Feb 23 2012, 10:25 AM Fillipo Simone So in the end it's our blind trust against you... Feb 23 2012, 10:27 AM X-Offender QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 23 2012, 10:18 AM) Btw... Feb 23 2012, 04:18 PM Zed.D QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 23 2012, 07... Feb 23 2012, 05:52 PM  X-Offender QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 23 2012, 05:52 PM) Whe... Feb 23 2012, 06:25 PM   han2503 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 23 2012, 06... Feb 23 2012, 06:45 PM   Zed.D QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 23 2012, 08... Feb 23 2012, 09:37 PM    han2503 QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 23 2012, 09:37 PM) OK ... Feb 23 2012, 09:46 PM Fillipo Simone It wasn't meant as an insult; I said simplifie... Feb 23 2012, 04:36 PM X-Offender Alright. Feb 23 2012, 04:45 PM han2503 QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 23 2012, 10:32 AM) The... Feb 23 2012, 04:52 PM X-Offender So, this will most probably be the line-up against... Feb 23 2012, 05:21 PM il_diavolo_mtl QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 23 2012, 11... Feb 23 2012, 05:37 PM X-Offender I'm not saying that han, I'm not saying th... Feb 23 2012, 07:04 PM William405 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 23 2012, 08... Feb 23 2012, 07:36 PM X-Offender For crying out loud, I've never said he gets i... Feb 23 2012, 08:46 PM William405 QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 23 2012, 09... Feb 23 2012, 09:19 PM Fillipo Simone Okay X-O, and how much time did Ambro get to shake... Feb 23 2012, 09:24 PM han2503 QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 23 2012, 09:2... Feb 23 2012, 09:45 PM X-Offender QUOTE (William405 @ Feb 23 2012, 09:19 PM... Feb 23 2012, 09:55 PM d'Arc.LP Matri: "Thiago Silva difficult to over come? ... Feb 24 2012, 12:38 PM han2503 QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Feb 24 2012, 12:38 ... Feb 24 2012, 05:40 PM acid911 Senile old frog! Feb 24 2012, 12:45 PM d'Arc.LP Allegri: "Pato is ready. Boateng and Maxi Lop... Feb 24 2012, 01:24 PM acid911 That's that, then. Here's looking forward... Feb 24 2012, 01:35 PM William405 Pato will shine again,I can feel it. Feb 24 2012, 04:29 PM Danny Hell of an important match for us to hope Pato hit... Feb 24 2012, 04:51 PM d'Arc.LP ALLEGRI: "Boateng may not be ready vs Palermo... Feb 24 2012, 04:55 PM d'Arc.LP The squad vs. Juventus: Abbiati, Amelia, Abate, An... Feb 24 2012, 05:01 PM han2503 QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Feb 24 2012, 05:01 ... Feb 24 2012, 05:41 PM kurtsimonw Abbiati
Nesta - Mexes - Silva
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