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post Feb 20 2012, 02:54 PM
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The big game we've been talking about for more than a month now. If we win this I'll fly to Milan and kiss Allegri's feet. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

That being said, we do have a lot of injuries and potentially no Ibra. My only fear is that we'll see the same midfield we saw against Cesena. And that won't be pretty against Juve
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post Feb 22 2012, 11:37 AM
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Ridiculing Pato for having a bad season which is mostly due to injuries. how pathetic is that? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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post Feb 22 2012, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 22 2012, 11:37 AM) *
Ridiculing Pato for having a bad season which is mostly due to injuries. how pathetic is that? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I agree, it is rather annoying.

Yet, I see where people are coming from: frustration leads to such conclusions. We expected so much out of him, yet this season it seems like a well organized time-schedule - Pato injured - Pato back - Pato injured.

I'm almost 100% that on this board there isn't even a single poster who dislikes Pato or wants to insult him because he's convinced Pato is a bad player; yet his constant injuries make them feel frustrated.
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post Feb 22 2012, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 22 2012, 12:05 PM) *
Yet, I see where people are coming from: frustration leads to such conclusions. We expected so much out of him, yet this season it seems like a well organized time-schedule - Pato injured - Pato back - Pato injured.

I'm almost 100% that on this board there isn't even a single poster who dislikes Pato or wants to insult him because he's convinced Pato is a bad player; yet his constant injuries make them feel frustrated.


How can you not get frustrated with him pulling this crap week in and week out? It's not like he's doing it on purpose, but that's beyond the point. I'd be happy with him being just a regular goal scorer à la Higuain at this point of his career (although my expectations for him were much more higher), but the guy gets injured way too often. Who knows when this'll stop, if it will ever stop.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 22 2012, 04:29 PM) *
How can you not get frustrated with him pulling this crap week in and week out? It's not like he's doing it on purpose, but that's beyond the point. I'd be happy with him being just a regular goal scorer à la Higuain at this point of his career (although my expectations for him were much more higher), but the guy gets injured way too often. Who knows when this'll stop, if it will ever stop.

Yes,...but I really don't get you, your post is contradictory. How can you say someone getting injured all the time is pulling crap week in and week out? I mean, what do you want him to do?
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 22 2012, 04:34 PM) *
Yes,...but I really don't get you, your post is contradictory. How can you say someone getting injured all the time is pulling crap week in and week out? I mean, what do you want him to do?


Err, it's an expresion, Fillipo. I'm not saying he's doing it on purpose, jeez. Still, a change of attitude would be nice. I think his problem resides mostly in his mind. The guy can't even accelerate anymore because he's too afraid of getting injured. As soon as he feels an annoyance or disturbance, he asks to be subbed. And then god knows how long it takes for him to get back, only to be injured again shortly after. There was a great article some time ago from Luca Serafini (a noted and excellent Mediaset journalist and Milan fan) about how Pato's problem was mostly psychological than anything else. If he manages to overcome his fears like Ambrosini did a few years back, then everything will become easier for him. But does he have the right mentality and attitude for that? Because at times he looks like a scaredy-cat to me.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 22 2012, 08:15 PM) *
Err, it's an expresion, Fillipo. I'm not saying he's doing it on purpose, jeez. Still, a change of attitude would be nice. I think his problem resides mostly in his mind. The guy can't even accelerate anymore because he's too afraid of getting injured. As soon as he feels an annoyance or disturbance, he asks to be subbed. And then god knows how long it takes for him to get back, only to be injured again shortly after. There was a great article some time ago from Luca Serafini (a noted and excellent Mediaset journalist and Milan fan) about how Pato's problem was mostly psychological than anything else. If he manages to overcome his fears like Ambrosini did a few years back, then everything will become easier for him. But does he have the right mentality and attitude for that? Because at times he looks like a scaredy-cat to me.


If only you could realize how absurd that bold part is.
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post Feb 22 2012, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 22 2012, 05:04 PM) *
If only you could realize how absurd that bold part is.


In the eyes of a fanboy, I certainly believe so. It's sad how you can't be critical of a player that's been disappointing everyone simply because he's your favorite toy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 22 2012, 07:40 PM) *
In the eyes of a fanboy, I certainly believe so. It's sad how you can't be critical of a player that's been disappointing everyone simply because he's your favorite toy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)


Firstly I'm no more a Pato fanboy than most people here so that's just irrelevant.

I should be critical of what? unlike you I don't think his weak mentality is what's getting him injured. that's freakin' absurd, saying it. weak mentality could affect his performances on the pitch for sure and we've seen that many times, even his passing is a result of that not because technically he can't pass, but injuries are a separate story altogether, whether you can grasp it or not.

Btw, you said as soon as he feels something, he asks to be subbed. how many times has that happened in his 4-5 years at Milan?

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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Feb 22 2012, 10:25 AM) *
I should be critical of what? unlike you I don't think his weak mentality is what's getting him injured. that's freakin' absurd, saying it. weak mentality could affect his performances on the pitch for sure and we've seen that many times, even his passing is a result of that not because technically he can't pass, but injuries are a separate story altogether, whether you can grasp it or not.


X-Off belongs to this school of thought:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYxCrugJj_o...eature=youtu.be

It's all in the mind man...!
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