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Fillipo Simone
post Feb 12 2012, 11:28 AM
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Decisive CL match. A win here and we could turn our luck. Also, if we manage to surpass Arsenal and enter the 1/4 finals Allegri would prove he has it in him for more.
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 13 2012, 09:54 PM) *
With all due respect to you and the others who have voiced opinions, I was there at the Emirates for the first leg in 2008. What we lacked on that night was a ridged midfield - doesn't mean I am right or my assessment is noteworthy, as Carlo is a master tactician and I am a mere spectator. With that in mind, I have my reservations given our injury situation ..

For instence, KPB is a HUGE boost to our midfield, but he will be lacking in match fitness and rhythm of play, hence he could be a bigger liability than what you preceive Ambro to be. Moreover, we have a core that has played nonstop for over a month now without reasonable rotation/rest. What we need here is a clean sheet, arming our midfield with anchor-men will disrupt Arsenal's possession football. We have the envy of Europe in our attacking options, so playing a counter-attack game based on a solid midfield might be our ticket in making tomorrow night a positive one.

Then again, I could be wrong and Allegri pulls up with all guns blazing in a Robi-Ibra-SES trident and we could win 3-0. Its just that I don't want to give Arsenal 1cm of space in our midfield.

With all due respect, this is not 2008. In 2008 Rino and Ambro were still half decent, although already declining badly. Nowadays, Ambro just creates problems for us that just are not worth the trouble of having him in the team. Just because he has a DM label over his head does not mean that he's any good at it, or that he'll even provide us with defensive stability. He's more likely to cause instability. Why would you want 3 destroyers in a midfield where even our AM can be considered a hardman and a runner more than anything else?

We can't play any sort of football, not even counter-attacking football if our midfielders don't know what to do with the ball.

Congesting that midfield with DMs will only hinder our performance, and I'm not going to even write the usual "imo", because I am certain that this will occur. You talk about a team with no rotation and you want to start an Ambrosini who as had to play every three days lately, and made a mess of thing on all occasions. Not to mention that a midfield which contains both him and Van Bommel is simply not compatible, due to the fact that they're too aclike and tend to step on each other's toes.

If we want to win this thing, than playing guys like Ambrosini and Antonini should be the last thing we do.

QUOTE (William405 @ Feb 13 2012, 10:19 PM) *
Your thoughts are all correct,but the problem Ambrosini is a liablity in this midfield.If,we had another good destroyer there(good old gattuso),then it may have been a good gameplan.But,Ambrosini is quite a reckless player.What I mean is that he might do something well (and i'm the first one cheer for it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ),but he does 100 other stuff bad on the other end.He loses the ball too much,can't pass the ball well,defends badly...so I really don't see the difference with having him there or having Seedorf really.If anything,Seedorf will be the playmaker and run the game for us,while our other two destroyers gather the ball,Seedorf will make sure it will stay with us for a period long than 1 second.

Completely with you

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 13 2012, 10:41 PM) *
Naah, good try R7, but you won't convince han Ambrosini is good even if he's the last DM standing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I'd rather step in myself than let him ruin another game for us (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

What will convince you that Ambro is so way over the hill that he can't even see it anymore? Maybe him gifting another goal? This time a winner for Arsenal?
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- Fillipo Simone   Champions League - Round of 16 - AC Milan - Arsenal F.C.   Feb 12 2012, 11:28 AM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 12 2012, 11:2...   Feb 12 2012, 12:47 PM
|- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 12 2012, 02:47 PM) I...   Feb 12 2012, 12:54 PM
|- - William405   QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 12 2012, 01:54 PM...   Feb 12 2012, 01:00 PM
|- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (William405 @ Feb 12 2012, 03:00 PM...   Feb 12 2012, 01:09 PM
|- - kurtsimonw   QUOTE (William405 @ Feb 12 2012, 12:00 PM...   Feb 12 2012, 01:18 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 12 2012, 05:18 PM...   Feb 12 2012, 01:47 PM
|- - William405   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 12 2012, 02:18 PM...   Feb 12 2012, 01:58 PM
|- - CHU-LIP   QUOTE (William405 @ Feb 12 2012, 02:58 PM...   Feb 12 2012, 02:08 PM
|- - William405   QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Feb 12 2012, 03:08 ...   Feb 12 2012, 02:10 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Feb 12 2012, 02:08 ...   Feb 12 2012, 02:31 PM
- - Rossoneri7   Doubting we can get anything more than a draw out ...   Feb 12 2012, 12:49 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   I actually regained confidence in Ambrosini yester...   Feb 12 2012, 12:52 PM
- - William405   I would go with this: Mesbah-Thiago silva-Mexes-...   Feb 12 2012, 12:53 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   Abbiati,Nesta,Boateng,Flamini and Pato training wi...   Feb 12 2012, 12:54 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Flamini? Almost forgot about him. Now that guy sti...   Feb 12 2012, 12:56 PM
|- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 12 2012, 02:5...   Feb 12 2012, 01:00 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   Well, if I were Allegri, I'd go with this one:...   Feb 12 2012, 01:04 PM
|- - X-Offender   What I'd like to see: Abbiati Abate - Nesta -...   Feb 12 2012, 03:05 PM
|- - William405   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 12 2012, 04...   Feb 12 2012, 03:11 PM
- - Zed.D   If Seedorf is about to put another catastrophic pe...   Feb 12 2012, 01:45 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   We're all doomed in this match. You know it...   Feb 12 2012, 02:29 PM
|- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 12 2012, 04:29 ...   Feb 12 2012, 03:13 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 12 2012, 12:5...   Feb 12 2012, 02:29 PM
- - Danny   If we don't win this match I'll never hear...   Feb 12 2012, 02:44 PM
- - Rossoneri7   Han what are you talking about? Ofcourse I'd t...   Feb 12 2012, 03:06 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   I would actually start a weird 4-2-2-2 with Maxi a...   Feb 12 2012, 03:28 PM
|- - Suhail 3   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 12 2012, 02:28 ...   Feb 12 2012, 10:00 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Suhail 3 @ Feb 13 2012, 02:00 AM) ...   Feb 12 2012, 10:05 PM
|- - Suhail 3   QUOTE (acid911 @ Feb 12 2012, 09:05 PM) T...   Feb 12 2012, 10:08 PM
- - drucurl   Let's hope Melissa is on her period this week   Feb 12 2012, 07:36 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   Who?   Feb 12 2012, 08:25 PM
|- - William405   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 12 2012, 09:25 ...   Feb 12 2012, 09:09 PM
- - han2503   Boateng's (Melissa Satta) Because of those se...   Feb 12 2012, 09:19 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   Oh ok. Having read her interview, I don't t...   Feb 12 2012, 09:57 PM
|- - drucurl   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Feb 12 2012, 04:57 ...   Feb 13 2012, 12:17 AM
- - acid911   Aye, these 4 of our most influential players. Fla...   Feb 12 2012, 10:43 PM
- - Rossoneri7   So KPB might start, as his fitness level is good e...   Feb 13 2012, 01:00 PM
- - X-Offender   So, Boateng, Van Bommel and Nocerino are sure to s...   Feb 13 2012, 03:53 PM
- - Jack Bauer   All far from exciting options but I'd go with ...   Feb 13 2012, 03:59 PM
- - X-Offender   Aye, I'd go with Seedorf as well. We need some...   Feb 13 2012, 04:08 PM
- - Jack Bauer   CM, he plays better there at this stage of his car...   Feb 13 2012, 04:14 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Feb 13 2012, 04:14 PM...   Feb 13 2012, 04:20 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 13 2012, 01:00 PM...   Feb 13 2012, 04:19 PM
|- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 13 2012, 06:19 PM) L...   Feb 13 2012, 09:54 PM
|- - William405   QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 13 2012, 10:54 PM...   Feb 13 2012, 10:19 PM
- - Jack Bauer   I think Allegri might start him. Robinho is not in...   Feb 13 2012, 04:26 PM
|- - il_diavolo_mtl   QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Feb 13 2012, 10:26 AM...   Feb 13 2012, 05:19 PM
- - CrazyMilanFan   maxi has recently scored and has UCL experience as...   Feb 13 2012, 05:20 PM
- - X-Offender   Probable line-up according to Sportmediaset: Abbi...   Feb 13 2012, 06:02 PM
- - William405   Ambrosini is what pisses me off most!Zambrotta...   Feb 13 2012, 06:16 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (William405 @ Feb 13 2012, 06:16 PM...   Feb 13 2012, 06:22 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Feb 13 2012, 04:26 PM...   Feb 13 2012, 06:25 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (han2503 @ Feb 13 2012, 06:25 PM) A...   Feb 13 2012, 06:52 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 13 2012, 06...   Feb 13 2012, 07:30 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 13 2012, 07:3...   Feb 13 2012, 08:43 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 13 2012, 08...   Feb 13 2012, 08:53 PM
- - Jack Bauer   Well, I wouldn't panic just yet, Sportmediaset...   Feb 13 2012, 06:54 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Feb 13 2012, 06...   Feb 13 2012, 07:27 PM
- - han2503   Like I said, my only major problem in that line-up...   Feb 13 2012, 08:55 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Naah, good try R7, but you won't convince han ...   Feb 13 2012, 10:41 PM
|- - milanbuf88   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 13 2012, 04:4...   Feb 13 2012, 10:46 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Feb 13 2012, 10:46 PM...   Feb 13 2012, 10:48 PM
- - drucurl   No Anto, Ambro or Zambro and we should be fine   Feb 13 2012, 11:30 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE What will convince you that Ambro is so way ...   Feb 14 2012, 01:25 AM
|- - milanbuf88   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Feb 13 2012, 07:2...   Feb 14 2012, 01:36 AM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Feb 14 2012, 01:36 AM...   Feb 14 2012, 11:17 AM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Feb 14 2012, 01:36 AM...   Feb 14 2012, 11:17 AM
- - X-Offender   Nah, han is 100% correct. Playing Ambrosini agains...   Feb 14 2012, 02:29 AM
- - Jack Sparrow   Looks like I'm in a minority. I want Ambro to ...   Feb 14 2012, 09:45 AM
- - kurtsimonw   I don't think there's much problem in goin...   Feb 14 2012, 11:44 AM
|- - CrazyMilanFan   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Feb 14 2012, 10:44 AM...   Feb 14 2012, 12:35 PM
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