[Danny]

http://ibroxnoise.blogspot.com/2011/12/whe...e-not-dive.html

I write a Rangers blog, but after the Boateng incident yesterday I decided to write about simulation in general.

[kurtsimonw]

It's difficult for referees at the time. I would like to see FAs give players long bans for diving though after they've checked video replays after the game.

[CHU-LIP]

It's difficult for referees at the time. I would like to see FAs give players long bans for diving though after they've checked video replays after the game.

Long ban for a dive? That's ridiculous. One dive, and you got a long ban? Right...

They get yellow at most during the match now. And it are dangerous tackles that deserve long bans, not this.

And often it's hard to judge if it's a true dive, or not really. Give a long ban for that, gonna be difficult... and over the top anyway

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Dec 19 2011, 12:38 PM

[kurtsimonw]

Long ban for a dive? That's ridiculous. One dive, and you got a long ban? Right...

Yep.

A bad tackle may not even result in injury and you get a 3 match ban. I think that's right because you did something wrong. But in reality you've not affected the game in any way except to make it harder for your team.

A dive may wrongly win your team points. You could change the entire league based on the way you cheated. In my opinion it should be a big punishment.

[CHU-LIP]

Yep.

A bad tackle may not even result in injury and you get a 3 match ban. I think that's right because you did something wrong. But in reality you've not affected the game in any way except to make it harder for your team.

A dive may wrongly win your team points. You could change the entire league based on the way you cheated. In my opinion it should be a big punishment.

You give me the expression you value a result higher than the health of a person. I can't agree with that.

And BTW, Kurt, when is a ban a long ban to you?

[kurtsimonw]

You give me the expression you value a result higher than the health of a person. I can't agree with that.

We aren't debating that so how do you know my feelings on it? If you must know, I think if a player injuries someone and it is deemed reckless or intentional, their ban should match the length of the injury (for a minimum of 3 games). So a minor injury is likely a 3 game ban. If you end someones career? Say goodbye to football, you don't deserve to be playing.

And BTW, Kurt, when is a ban a long ban to you?

4/5 games+

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Dec 19 2011, 07:33 PM

[CHU-LIP]

We aren't debating that so how do you know my feelings on it?

I don't. I said I got that impression. So why you respond with that sentence? I thought because you said about a bad tackle with 3 games ban is alright, but for diving a long ban, which is longer than 3. I didn't know you judge a tackle based on what actually happened until now.

Personally I feel all FAs should have their own medical teams to see how bad a players injury is. If it was a red card that caused the injury, then in my opinion the player should be suspended for as long as the injury is. If you end someones career with a stupid tackle, say goodbye to football. I do not value a result over health, but seeing as this was a thread about diving, and not injuries, I never stated my opinion on the matter.

After this post I understand that now better. I don't agree with how long someone is out, that long you need to be banned. It's just a matter of (bad) luck if something happens and if it's really bad. When one makes a tackle that can cause something really bad, it need to be punished hard, whether the player got lucky or not. Else one gets (close to) nothing and the other is banned for a long time, while they actually did exact the same. I can't agree with that.

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Dec 19 2011, 07:40 PM