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post Dec 18 2011, 03:10 PM
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http://ibroxnoise.blogspot.com/2011/12/whe...e-not-dive.html

I write a Rangers blog, but after the Boateng incident yesterday I decided to write about simulation in general.
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post Dec 18 2011, 08:35 PM
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It's difficult for referees at the time. I would like to see FAs give players long bans for diving though after they've checked video replays after the game.
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post Dec 19 2011, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 18 2011, 09:35 PM) *
It's difficult for referees at the time. I would like to see FAs give players long bans for diving though after they've checked video replays after the game.

Long ban for a dive? That's ridiculous. One dive, and you got a long ban? Right...

They get yellow at most during the match now. And it are dangerous tackles that deserve long bans, not this.

And often it's hard to judge if it's a true dive, or not really. Give a long ban for that, gonna be difficult... and over the top anyway

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post Dec 19 2011, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Dec 19 2011, 11:36 AM) *
Long ban for a dive? That's ridiculous. One dive, and you got a long ban? Right...

Yep.

A bad tackle may not even result in injury and you get a 3 match ban. I think that's right because you did something wrong. But in reality you've not affected the game in any way except to make it harder for your team.

A dive may wrongly win your team points. You could change the entire league based on the way you cheated. In my opinion it should be a big punishment.
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post Dec 19 2011, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 19 2011, 07:37 PM) *
Yep.

A bad tackle may not even result in injury and you get a 3 match ban. I think that's right because you did something wrong. But in reality you've not affected the game in any way except to make it harder for your team.

A dive may wrongly win your team points. You could change the entire league based on the way you cheated. In my opinion it should be a big punishment.

You give me the expression you value a result higher than the health of a person. I can't agree with that.

And BTW, Kurt, when is a ban a long ban to you?
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post Dec 19 2011, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Dec 19 2011, 06:23 PM) *
You give me the expression you value a result higher than the health of a person. I can't agree with that.

We aren't debating that so how do you know my feelings on it? If you must know, I think if a player injuries someone and it is deemed reckless or intentional, their ban should match the length of the injury (for a minimum of 3 games). So a minor injury is likely a 3 game ban. If you end someones career? Say goodbye to football, you don't deserve to be playing.

QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Dec 19 2011, 06:23 PM) *
And BTW, Kurt, when is a ban a long ban to you?

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- Danny   When is a Dive not a Dive?   Dec 18 2011, 03:10 PM
- - littlechris   QUOTE (Danny @ Dec 18 2011, 03:10 PM) htt...   Dec 18 2011, 04:04 PM
- - acid911   Nicely written, man. Good blog you've got ther...   Dec 18 2011, 05:18 PM
- - Danny   I saw no contact, but I agree entirely with you th...   Dec 18 2011, 05:27 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Danny @ Dec 18 2011, 09:27 PM) I s...   Dec 18 2011, 05:35 PM
- - William405   Yes,in slow motion it looks really bad.But,what...   Dec 18 2011, 06:06 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (William405 @ Dec 18 2011, 10:06 PM...   Dec 18 2011, 06:20 PM
||- - Milan Are Brilliant   I would be frustrated and I still don't like i...   Dec 18 2011, 06:23 PM
||- - han2503   QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Dec 18 2011, 06...   Dec 18 2011, 07:07 PM
|- - Danny   QUOTE (William405 @ Dec 18 2011, 05:06 PM...   Dec 19 2011, 03:12 PM
- - CHU-LIP   I rather have our players ''earn'...   Dec 18 2011, 07:17 PM
|- - Rossoneri7   Good blog Danny The incident of simulations has...   Dec 19 2011, 09:14 AM
||- - Zed.D   QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Dec 19 2011, 11:44 AM...   Dec 19 2011, 12:38 PM
||- - acid911   QUOTE (Zed.D @ Dec 19 2011, 04:38 PM) I t...   Dec 19 2011, 12:55 PM
||- - CHU-LIP   QUOTE (acid911 @ Dec 19 2011, 01:55 PM) Y...   Dec 19 2011, 01:00 PM
||- - acid911   QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Dec 19 2011, 05:00 ...   Dec 19 2011, 01:25 PM
||- - CHU-LIP   QUOTE (acid911 @ Dec 19 2011, 02:25 PM) I...   Dec 19 2011, 01:40 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 19 2011, 10:37 PM...   Dec 19 2011, 07:16 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Dec 19 2011, 11:23 ...   Dec 19 2011, 07:29 PM
|- - CHU-LIP   QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Dec 19 2011, 08:31 PM...   Dec 19 2011, 07:38 PM
|- - kurtsimonw   QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Dec 19 2011, 06:38 ...   Dec 19 2011, 10:13 PM
- - Dracoris   The keeper did make contact with Boateng but it wa...   Dec 19 2011, 12:43 PM
- - Zed.D   Nah, 5 match is way too much, acid! IMO 2-3 is...   Dec 19 2011, 01:20 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Zed.D @ Dec 19 2011, 05:20 PM) Nah...   Dec 19 2011, 01:31 PM
- - acid911   Sorry for the triple post, but remember how Ribery...   Dec 19 2011, 01:34 PM
- - acid911   Yes, well that's a bit of a concern. And some...   Dec 19 2011, 02:02 PM
- - Milan Are Brilliant   There's no chance UEFA/FIFA would enforce that...   Dec 19 2011, 04:28 PM
- - kurtsimonw   Pretty much. If all diving is is a 1 match ban or ...   Dec 19 2011, 07:20 PM


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