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Recent Bundesliga Champions (Since '92)
92/93 Werder Bremen
93/94 Bayern Munich
94/95 Borussia Dortmund
95/96 Borussia Dortmund
96/97 Bayern Munich
97/98 1. FC Kaiserslautern
98/99 Bayern Munich
99/00 Bayern Munich
00/01 Bayern Munich
01/02 Borussia Dortmund
02/03 Bayern Munich
03/04 Werder Bremen
04/05 Bayern Munich
05/06 Bayern Munich
06/07 VfB Stuttgart
07/08 Bayern Munich
08/09 VfL Wolfsburg
09/10 Bayern Munich
10/11 Borussia Dortmund

Holders

Bundesliga: Borussia Dortmund

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DFB-Pokal: Schalke 04

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European Entries

Champions League
Borussia Dortmund
Bayer Leverkusen
Bayern Munich

Europa League
Hannover 96
Mainz 05
Schalke 04

Promoted from 2.Bundesliga:
Hertha BSC
FC Augsburg

Bundesliga 2011/12 team list
FC Augsburg, Bayer Leverkusen, Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund, Borussia Mönchengladbach, SC Freiburg, Hamburg SV, Hannover 96l, Hertha BSC, 1899 Hoffenheim, 1. FC Kaiserslautern, 1. FC Köln, 1. FSV Mainz 05, 1. FC Nuremberg, Schalke 04, VfB Stuttgart, Werder Bremen, VfL Wolfsburg.

Top summer transfer: Manuel Neuer (from Schalke to Bayern, 18 million Euro)

Random facts:

Reigning player of the year: Arjen Robben (27 yo, Bayern Munich)
Reigning top scorer: Mario Gomez (25 yo, 28 goals)
Top scorer (all time): Gerd Müller (365 goals, Bayern Munich)
Most appearances: Karl-Heinz Körbel (602 games, Eintracht Frankfurt)
Youngest player to play: Nuri Sahin (16 years, 335 days; Borussia Dortmund)
Oldest player to play: Klaus Fichtel (43 years; Schalke 04)
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Only Bayern has got the potential to avoid them becoming champs again. I don't see it happen, though expect more of them this season obviously. It should be a nice battle between the two. Dortmund are really impressive, just like last season when they proved to do that on a consistent basis which is key for winning the league.

Well, I expect at least 2-3 teams to be near the leading duo - Bayern and BVB. But I'd say Bayern will win this championship. Dortmunds football might be amazing, but they still lack some experience. Only truly great teams can pull off a double. Let's see..

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I really don't see Stuttgart finishing top 5. Schalke should though, and I expect them to do so.

To paraphrase LaPalma, Rangnick is one of the most overrated coaches in Germany. I don't think he has made the needed changes. Their defensive line-up is more then problematic, and Rangnick is know as a coach who's start is good but ends up badly.

Fuchs is the only good player they signed. Beside that (and maybe Fährman), Metzelder, Jones, Raul, etc. all present certain problems that will pop-out during this season.

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Maybe the most talented German midfielder since Günter Netzer.

Hey, hey, hey! I respect Netzer very much, but Andi Möller and Thomas Häßler would be my pick!

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Stuttgarts coach Labbadia is an idiot and the most overrated person in german football.

Why do you think he's an idiot?

I must say, the last 2 years of Bundesliga are a bit different then in the past when it comes to coaches. Some real good young coaches appeared, but they seem to be a bit too serious, boring. I do miss clowns and weirdos like Neururer, Lorant or Mayer.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 7 2011, 11:14 AM) *
Well, I expect at least 2-3 teams to be near the leading duo - Bayern and BVB. But I'd say Bayern will win this championship. Dortmunds football might be amazing, but they still lack some experience. Only truly great teams can pull off a double. Let's see..

I think Dortmund plays better football than Bayern (obviously) and they have the more interesting players. And a more suited coach. Bayern is Heynckes first major job since he won the CL with Real in 1998. He was great at Leverkusen, but the environment at Bayern is a different one. In Leverkusen there's no media that questions your every decision, there's not a lot fans either and the management is very calm. At Bayern it's quite the opposite. I think it's the second hardest job after coaching Schalke. I dunno if Heynckes is up to the task.
Klopp on the other hand seems to become better every year. I didn't rate him a lot when he came to Dortmund. For me he was just a mediocre coach being most popular for his appearances on TV as "TV-coach of the nation". But what he did at Dortmund was big. Dortmunds championship last year is one of the very few in Budnesliga history which was won without spending big. Also Klopp and Zorc seem to be great duo. They can do it again, although Bayern won't give away this Meisterschaft as easily as the last one.


QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 7 2011, 11:14 AM) *
To paraphrase LaPalma, Rangnick is one of the most overrated coaches in Germany. I don't think he has made the needed changes. Their defensive line-up is more then problematic, and Rangnick is know as a coach who's start is good but ends up badly.

I think he's an expert in tactics. One of the best in the world. But he lacks quality when it comes to deal with players as human beings.

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 7 2011, 11:14 AM) *
Fuchs is the only good player they signed. Beside that (and maybe Fährman), Metzelder, Jones, Raul, etc. all present certain problems that will pop-out during this season.

True. But I expect a lot from Julian Draxler. Talented kid. Could become the next Olaf Thon. Also, they didn't have any money to sign players.

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Hey, hey, hey! I respect Netzer very much, but Andi Möller and Thomas Häßler would be my pick!

I thought about Häßler too. He was very talented but his career didn't live up to the hype. That's why I didn't mention him, cause I hope Götze will live up to the hype.

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Why do you think he's an idiot?


I think Labbadia would be a great waiter in a nice Italian restaurant. But as coach he's a zero. He failed at Darmstadt in the third league and Fürth hired him as coach in the 2nd Budnesliga. He failed as well and Bayer Leverkusen, one of the top clubs in the Bundesliga hired him. Come on! he failed as well and Hamburg, an even bigger club hires him. He fails again and gets another chance at Stuttgart. Sorry, I don't get it...

QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 7 2011, 11:14 AM) *
I must say, the last 2 years of Bundesliga are a bit different then in the past when it comes to coaches. Some real good young coaches appeared, but they seem to be a bit too serious, boring. I do miss clowns and weirdos like Neururer, Lorant or Mayer.

Mayer wasn't a clown. I once had the honour to meet him and I think he's the most intelligent football coach in the world. Neururer...yeah, he's a clown, but I like him a lot. Miss guys like him, just like I miss players like Effenberg, Scholl or Basler. Todays players are mostly boring professionals.
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- - LaPalma   Don't particularly like Hertha. When I go to s...   Jun 17 2011, 01:30 PM
|- - Milan Are Brilliant   QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 17 2011, 01:30 PM) T...   Jun 17 2011, 04:20 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Jun 17 2011, 05...   Jun 17 2011, 08:55 PM
- - LaPalma   In Euros. Madrid always make a nice profit with th...   Jun 17 2011, 07:57 PM
- - LaPalma   Michael ballack is officialy no longer a member of...   Jun 18 2011, 10:04 AM
- - acid911   Agreed, LaPalma. I really dislike coaches who thi...   Jun 18 2011, 10:22 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   I agree, but to an instant. Isn't Ballack als...   Jun 18 2011, 10:36 AM
- - kurtsimonw   I just think it's stupid to say you won't ...   Jun 18 2011, 11:24 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   So, what do you guys think of Heynckens, the new B...   Jun 19 2011, 08:10 PM
- - CHU-LIP   To be honest, even though I rate Van Gaal too, he ...   Jun 19 2011, 08:23 PM
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- - LaPalma   I think Heynckes is better than he ever was. He...   Jun 20 2011, 10:22 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   Well, here's the thing for me: 1) When it com...   Jun 20 2011, 11:31 AM
|- - LaPalma   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 20 2011, 12:3...   Jun 20 2011, 12:36 PM
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- - kurtsimonw   Who replaced Sahin?   Aug 6 2011, 10:53 AM
- - LaPalma   QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Aug 6 2011, 11...   Aug 6 2011, 11:11 AM
- - CHU-LIP   QUOTE (LaPalma @ Aug 6 2011, 11:47 AM) Ul...   Aug 6 2011, 12:31 PM
- - CHU-LIP   Klopp is a brilliant coach. I have always rated hi...   Aug 7 2011, 03:21 PM
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