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Recent Bundesliga Champions (Since '92)
92/93 Werder Bremen
93/94 Bayern Munich
94/95 Borussia Dortmund
95/96 Borussia Dortmund
96/97 Bayern Munich
97/98 1. FC Kaiserslautern
98/99 Bayern Munich
99/00 Bayern Munich
00/01 Bayern Munich
01/02 Borussia Dortmund
02/03 Bayern Munich
03/04 Werder Bremen
04/05 Bayern Munich
05/06 Bayern Munich
06/07 VfB Stuttgart
07/08 Bayern Munich
08/09 VfL Wolfsburg
09/10 Bayern Munich
10/11 Borussia Dortmund

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Bundesliga: Borussia Dortmund

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DFB-Pokal: Schalke 04

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Champions League
Borussia Dortmund
Bayer Leverkusen
Bayern Munich

Europa League
Hannover 96
Mainz 05
Schalke 04

Promoted from 2.Bundesliga:
Hertha BSC
FC Augsburg

Bundesliga 2011/12 team list
FC Augsburg, Bayer Leverkusen, Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund, Borussia Mönchengladbach, SC Freiburg, Hamburg SV, Hannover 96l, Hertha BSC, 1899 Hoffenheim, 1. FC Kaiserslautern, 1. FC Köln, 1. FSV Mainz 05, 1. FC Nuremberg, Schalke 04, VfB Stuttgart, Werder Bremen, VfL Wolfsburg.

Top summer transfer: Manuel Neuer (from Schalke to Bayern, 18 million Euro)

Random facts:

Reigning player of the year: Arjen Robben (27 yo, Bayern Munich)
Reigning top scorer: Mario Gomez (25 yo, 28 goals)
Top scorer (all time): Gerd Müller (365 goals, Bayern Munich)
Most appearances: Karl-Heinz Körbel (602 games, Eintracht Frankfurt)
Youngest player to play: Nuri Sahin (16 years, 335 days; Borussia Dortmund)
Oldest player to play: Klaus Fichtel (43 years; Schalke 04)
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Well, here's the thing for me:

1) When it comes to Bayern, they still have a very flawed defense. If they even sign Arturo Vidal, they'll have to bring in also another CB as well. Breno sucks, while van Buyten stopped being good long time ago. Badstuber isn't bad, but not good enough, same goes for Contento. They'd need someone from abroad, someone reliable.

Heynckes is a question mark for me, but I get where your optimism is coming from. It may result in something good, the whole story about his appointment. We'll see.

2) Dortmund is a big question mark too for me. They've got Kagawa back (who was instrumental for the first few weeks) and they've signed Perišić who's supposedly very good and talented, even if I watched him a few times and he was awful in every occasion. I think they need one more signing to make up for Sahin's departure. Who? I'm not sure.

3) I don't think Leverkusen can hold on to their previous results. I'd say Schalke or a reformed HSV, even Wolfsburg - all of them have more chances in becoming dangerous to Bayern. Also, I'm very keen to see Gladbach and Stuttgart trying to start a better season then the last one.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 20 2011, 12:31 PM) *
Well, here's the thing for me:

1) When it comes to Bayern, they still have a very flawed defense. If they even sign Arturo Vidal, they'll have to bring in also another CB as well. Breno sucks, while van Buyten stopped being good long time ago. Badstuber isn't bad, but not good enough, same goes for Contento. They'd need someone from abroad, someone reliable.

Heynckes is a question mark for me, but I get where your optimism is coming from. It may result in something good, the whole story about his appointment. We'll see.

2) Dortmund is a big question mark too for me. They've got Kagawa back (who was instrumental for the first few weeks) and they've signed Perišić who's supposedly very good and talented, even if I watched him a few times and he was awful in every occasion. I think they need one more signing to make up for Sahin's departure. Who? I'm not sure.

3) I don't think Leverkusen can hold on to their previous results. I'd say Schalke or a reformed HSV, even Wolfsburg - all of them have more chances in becoming dangerous to Bayern. Also, I'm very keen to see Gladbach and Stuttgart trying to start a better season then the last one.

1) I agree with what you said. Most of it at least. Badstuber still lacks experience and I think he's got the talent to become a lot better, unlike Contento. Bayern wants to sign Cities Jerome Boateng and I think he'll be a valuable reinforcement for them to his versatility. He can play CB, WB and DM. Plus, Bayern now has Manuel Neuer and he already proofed that he#s the best possible solution to make up for a lawsy defense.

2) I think Ilkay Gündogan is meant to be Sahins replacement. He's been very good at Nürnberg last season and I'm quite sure he can still improve a lot. But he's not a deep lying playmaker like Sahin is, he's a bit more attack-minded. So I'm curious to see if he can live up to his task as new Pirlo-type midfielder.

3)Leverkusens coach Robin Dutt is a guy I really respect. What he did at Freiburg was exceptional. He's a good tactician who knows how to teach young players a thing or two. Schalke is, for me, the biggest question mark in the league. But I think that they won't be able to achieve anything more than a spot in the Euro league. They lost their iconic leader and best player Manuel Neuer. Their still in massive financial trouble and have to get rid of Magaths legacy 8all the crappy players he bought). Gladbach and Stuttgart will probably be mid-table teams next year, which should be a success for Gladbach. Wolfsburg needs a complete refit to fight for a CL-spot again. After the trouble with Diego in the seasons last week I doubt he'll ever play for them again. Or, I hope so.
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- Milan Are Brilliant   [GER] Bundesliga 2011-12   Jun 17 2011, 11:44 AM
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- - LaPalma   Don't particularly like Hertha. When I go to s...   Jun 17 2011, 01:30 PM
|- - Milan Are Brilliant   QUOTE (LaPalma @ Jun 17 2011, 01:30 PM) T...   Jun 17 2011, 04:20 PM
|- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Jun 17 2011, 05...   Jun 17 2011, 08:55 PM
- - LaPalma   In Euros. Madrid always make a nice profit with th...   Jun 17 2011, 07:57 PM
- - LaPalma   Michael ballack is officialy no longer a member of...   Jun 18 2011, 10:04 AM
- - acid911   Agreed, LaPalma. I really dislike coaches who thi...   Jun 18 2011, 10:22 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   I agree, but to an instant. Isn't Ballack als...   Jun 18 2011, 10:36 AM
- - kurtsimonw   I just think it's stupid to say you won't ...   Jun 18 2011, 11:24 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   So, what do you guys think of Heynckens, the new B...   Jun 19 2011, 08:10 PM
- - CHU-LIP   To be honest, even though I rate Van Gaal too, he ...   Jun 19 2011, 08:23 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Good coach, that's sure. But is he still top?   Jun 19 2011, 08:48 PM
- - LaPalma   I think Heynckes is better than he ever was. He...   Jun 20 2011, 10:22 AM
- - CHU-LIP   Congratz to Fortuna Düsseldorf for winning the De...   Jul 4 2011, 10:21 PM
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- - LaPalma   He did. Before: After:   Jul 7 2011, 08:24 AM
- - kurtsimonw   Jerome Boateng from Man City to Bayern Munich - £...   Jul 18 2011, 05:34 PM
- - LaPalma   Dortmund totally dominated yesterdayys opening mat...   Aug 6 2011, 10:47 AM
|- - Milan Are Brilliant   Do you fancy Dortmund to go and win it again?   Aug 6 2011, 10:49 AM
- - kurtsimonw   Who replaced Sahin?   Aug 6 2011, 10:53 AM
- - LaPalma   QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Aug 6 2011, 11...   Aug 6 2011, 11:11 AM
- - CHU-LIP   QUOTE (LaPalma @ Aug 6 2011, 11:47 AM) Ul...   Aug 6 2011, 12:31 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   QUOTE Only Bayern has got the potential to avoid t...   Aug 7 2011, 10:14 AM
|- - LaPalma   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 7 2011, 11:14...   Aug 7 2011, 12:18 PM
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|- - acid911   QUOTE (William405 @ Dec 25 2011, 07:05 PM...   Dec 25 2011, 04:45 PM
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