> Serie A - Week 32 - Fiorentina - Milan, Date: 10/04/11 Time: 20:45 CET

 
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post Apr 3 2011, 05:58 PM
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Coming off the derby high, this will be a tuff one, but in all honesty should be won. we're still not out of the woods, so we realy cannot afford to lose any points now.

We'll have Zlatan back for this one, any word on whether Pirlo will be back?

Personally I'd like to see us go for

Abate--Nesta--Thiago--Zambro
Flamini--V.Bommel--Boateng
Robinho
Ibra--Pato


Assuming Pirlo is still out

However, Allegri will most likely play this

Abate--Nesta--Thiago--Zambro
Rino--V.Bommel--Flams/See
Boateng
Ibra--Pato

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@ Chu's long post (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

In regards to Boateng, when he plays in the Am position he's both a part of the attack and the midfield, he has his position to hold, he still needs to be in the attacking third or the attackers get stranded. I agree that we should have 4 mids, and if Robinho is playing behind the strikers he forms part of that midfield.

When I talk of the midfield I'm talking about the 3 directly in front of the defense, the AM is not included in that. And personally I believe that Boateng is a lot better playing there, since it is after all his natural position as a box-to-box player, something we've been craving for a while now and I feel that he's wasted at AM.

As for the 2 DM issue, I stand by what I say, we essesntially have DMs that don't really have any skill on the ball, so obviously the midfield becomes stagnant with so many packed in there, at one point we were playing with 3, so after 45 minutes of trying to go through that god awful midfield and failing over and over again, the long balls to Ibra ensue.

I said it in the other thread and I'll say it again, had the same midfield of 3 DMs we were playing around xmas played behind Pato and Robinho, they could have run a 1000 miles out there and it would have come to nothing. The problem has always been the midfield 3 this season, not the forwards and the combo of forwards that play. The AM is irrelavent, it has to start from that midfield 3 and putting Boateng there and removing a player like Rino would increase the quality 10 fold. Add Pirlo when he's fit again and you'll see great football no matter who the 3 (2 strikers 1 AM) in attack are.

A Diamon midfield of

V.Bommel
Boateng--Pirlo
Robinho


Is the best midfield we could put out there and would produce our best football without loosing our defensive balance
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 5 2011, 05:46 PM) *
@ Chu's long post (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

In regards to Boateng, when he plays in the Am position he's both a part of the attack and the midfield, he has his position to hold, he still needs to be in the attacking third or the attackers get stranded. I agree that we should have 4 mids, and if Robinho is playing behind the strikers he forms part of that midfield.

As for the 2 DM issue, I stand by what I say, we essesntially have DMs that don't really have any skill on the ball, so obviously the midfield becomes stagnant with so many packed in there, at one point we were playing with 3, so after 45 minutes of trying to go through that god awful midfield and failing over and over again, the long balls to Ibra ensue.

A Diamon midfield of

V.Bommel
Boateng--Pirlo
Robinho


Is the best midfield we could put out there and would produce our best football without loosing our defensive balance


Boateng is good at both AM and in deeper midfield. Even if you're right he's better in deeper midfield, we have no one who is as good as option as Boateng is as AM, nor close to it. While we do have plenty of non-AM midfield options. Robinho I don't find as good as Boateng as AM option, but I have to say Robinho is the best option for that when it comes to forwards because of his energy, work rate, pace, dropping back, building up, linking up, and so.

I prefer:
Robinho, Pato(vs good teams who gives us space)/Zlatan(vs weak teams that park the bus against us)*
Boateng
Pirlo or Seedorf, Van Bommel or Ambrosini, Gattuso or Flamini
Zambrotta, Thiago Silva, Nesta, Abate
Abbiati

Oh and I forgot to say, I agree about 3 DM's being too much... but I'm okay with two DM's

*or Pato and Zlatan up front - if anything, hard to choose who to bench of them... very, very tough decision

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