> Serie A - Week 30: Palermo - AC Milan, Date: 19/03/11 Time: 20:45 CET

 
Fillipo Simone
post Mar 16 2011, 09:47 PM
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Important match. I hope Pastore performs just like the last few matches.
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If I were Allegri I'd play like this :

Abbiati
Abate - Silva - Yepes - Emanuelson
Van Bommel
Gattuso - Flamini
Boateng
Pato - Cassano
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post Mar 18 2011, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE (d'Arc.LP @ Mar 18 2011, 06:25 PM) *
If I were Allegri I'd play like this :

Abbiati
Abate - Silva - Yepes - Emanuelson
Van Bommel
Gattuso - Flamini
Boateng
Pato - Cassano

Yeah, Allegri would most likely pull out something like that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

There are so many flaws with that though. The 3 DMs thing is just an issue that has held us back all season, something that Allegri can't seem to get past his little stubborn head! 2 is more then enough, 3 is major overkill and ends up killing our game entirely. Imo the long ball tactic is not Ibra's fault but the midfield's fault. Our midfield is so bad with the ball that we end up trying to bypass it with the long ball to Ibra, hoping that he'll finish something off or manage to bring in Pato and Robinho (both attackers who like the ball played to feet) into the game. Blaming it on Ibra imo is ridiculous, since it's obviously Allegri's fault for playing such a negative, uncreative midfield.

Boateng is not an AM, yes his runs into the box are priceless, but he can still do that by playing the box-to-box position from further back in midfield. Playing him there makes us lose another good player in the midfield, where atm we don't really have any quality aside from distructive players.

Urby imo is a much better mid then he is a LB, and I can't really see Allegri playing him there
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Mar 18 2011, 07:44 PM) *
There are so many flaws with that though. The 3 DMs thing is just an issue that has held us back all season, something that Allegri can't seem to get past his little stubborn head! 2 is more then enough, 3 is major overkill and ends up killing our game entirely. Imo the long ball tactic is not Ibra's fault but the midfield's fault. Our midfield is so bad with the ball that we end up trying to bypass it with the long ball to Ibra, hoping that he'll finish something off or manage to bring in Pato and Robinho (both attackers who like the ball played to feet) into the game. Blaming it on Ibra imo is ridiculous, since it's obviously Allegri's fault for playing such a negative, uncreative midfield.


Well said comrade. Allegri is the anti-football. His mentality is that of a mid-table club. Nowadays, in modern football, big clubs play with a very offensive midfield. Just look at Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester United, Inter, Arsenal and so on. We are the only team that plays with three destructive midfielders, who have zero creativity, which leads us to rely on long balls and play a very ugly football. And if anyone should throw the "we're top table" argument, let me just say this to you: Zlatan Ibrahimovic! Without his contribution, we'd be 4th-5th spot max.

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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 19 2011, 05:48 AM) *
Well said comrade. Allegri is the anti-football. His mentality is that of a mid-table club. Nowadays, in modern football, big clubs play with a very offensive midfield. Just look at Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester United, Inter, Arsenal and so on. We are the only team that plays with three destructive midfielders, who have zero creativity, which leads us to rely on long balls and play a very ugly football.


BS. have you forgotten that Pirlo is out and we don't have anyone better to play in midfield? with these players I'd do the same too. next season with a good AM and Pirlo back to full fitness we'll see if we'll still play with 3 destructive midfielders.

All in all I think the "I know football better than a real coach out there" attitude is going a little overboard here. I'm not saying Max is flawless, but no matter what players/formation he plays, you guys still find something to complain about. EVERY SINGLE GAME. yet we have won more than any other team in the league. he couldn't have been as wrong as you guys have made him out to be the whole friggin season!

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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Mar 19 2011, 10:57 AM) *
BS. have you forgotten that Pirlo is out and we don't have anyone better to play in midfield? with these players I'd do the same too. next season with a good AM and Pirlo back to full fitness we'll see if we'll still play with 3 destructive midfielders.

All in all I think the "I know football better than a real coach out there" attitude is going a little overboard here. I'm not saying Max is flawless, but no matter what players/formation he plays, you guys still find something to complain about. EVERY SINGLE GAME. yet we have won more than any other team in the league. he couldn't have been as wrong as you guys have made him out to be the whole friggin season!


Leave alone Pirlo, I know he's injured. What about Boateng? How many times has he played in his natural position, as box-to-box midfielder? Why does Allegri prefer him as trequartista? This annoys the hell out of me. We need some quality in that midfield. Playing Van Bommel, Gattuso/Flamini and Boateng with Robinho as trequarista would improve our game substantially. But not for Max. He insists with the three medianacci, because he's more concerned with not conceding first, then scoring. Like I said, small club mentality.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Mar 19 2011, 05:15 PM) *
Leave alone Pirlo, I know he's injured. What about Boateng? How many times has he played in his natural position, as box-to-box midfielder? Why does Allegri prefer him as trequartista? This annoys the hell out of me. We need some quality in that midfield. Playing Van Bommel, Gattuso/Flamini and Boateng with Robinho as trequarista would improve our game substantially. But not for Max. He insists with the three medianacci, because he's more concerned with not conceding first, then scoring. Like I said, small club mentality.


It sounds alot like how Mourinho plays. Its called Defensive mentality damn man do you watch Serie A nearly every club plays catenaccio it's Italian Football !! , of course we don't play catenaccio per say we play a more offensive brand.

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QUOTE (Ry4n @ Mar 19 2011, 03:43 PM) *
It sounds alot like how Mourinho plays. Its called Defensive mentality damn man do you watch Serie A nearly every club plays catenaccio it's Italian Football !! , of course we don't play catenaccio per say we play a more offensive brand.


Don't be ridiculous. If you see how Mourinho played Inter last season and how he plays Madrid now, you'll realize he plays a very offensive 4-2-3-1, with two defensive midfielders in front of the defense, one of which has the duty to organize the game (Thiago Motta, Xabi Alonso), and one to act as a sort of "water carrier" for the other (Cambiasso, Khedira). The rest of the line-up is purely offensive. Two wingers, one trequartista and one striker. Compare it to how're playing now, and you'll notice a huge difference. It's true that Mourinho's teams also a have a very good defensive mentality, but that's because he manages to incite his players to play a very coral game i.e. defending in 11 players and attacking in 11 players. That's not how we play. We defend with 3 players and attack with 3 players, leaving a huge gap in midfield, which accompanied by the scarce quality of our midfielders, leads us to play a very ugly and catenaccario football.
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