[Fillipo Simone]

Can't afford to loose that one. I'd go with Strasser in the starting XI and Ibra benched. Would be a first time.

[il_diavolo_mtl]

Our away game against them was full of goals and full of misses lol....aswell as our home game for Coppa italia i just hope players get rested we have beaten them twice this season already.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJOIwqd1uLQ...feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWOntCBZqho

Dear god Robinho is awful in those games i hope we sell him to Blackpool, and buy a Midfielder. Oduamadi is probably a better player at this point. Robinho makes mistakes my Sunday league teammates don't. Everyone bitches about Ibra's & Antonio's attitude but Ibra has been tame outside out yelling at our duckie and Cassano has been celebrating all our goals like the birth of his child. Robinho wastes all chance, precedes to look up and pray, not showing ANY form of accountability and when he does score he acts like he aimed that shot and dances alone away from his teammates. He has been offside Many times, can't finish, can't control & can't create. His best work all year was playing wide away from a shooting position. I have always been a fan of oduamadi is the limited first team lineup and in the primavera season. He is alot further along then Verdi IMO his age + wage +attitude + skillset makes him a better option then Uselessho going forward and deserves alot of attention during the Summer camp + friendlies.

[X-Offender]

Dear god Robinho is awful in those games i hope we sell him to Blackpool, and buy a Midfielder. Oduamadi is probably a better player at this point. Robinho makes mistakes my Sunday league teammates don't. Everyone bitches about Ibra's & Antonio's attitude but Ibra has been tame outside out yelling at our duckie and Cassano has been celebrating all our goals like the birth of his child. Robinho wastes all chance, precedes to look up and pray, not showing ANY form of accountability and when he does score he acts like he aimed that shot and dances alone away from his teammates. He has been offside Many times, can't finish, can't control & can't create. His best work all year was playing wide away from a shooting position. I have always been a fan of oduamadi is the limited first team lineup and in the primavera season. He is alot further along then Verdi IMO his age + wage +attitude + skillset makes him a better option then Uselessho going forward and deserves alot of attention during the Summer camp + friendlies.

I will probably get scolded by Fillippo, but this is just pathetic. You're making Robinho a Serie B player and prefer Oduamadi over him. Seriously, get a vacation.

[il_diavolo_mtl]

I will probably get scolded by Fillippo, but this is just pathetic. You're making Robinho a Serie B player and prefer Oduamadi over him. Seriously, get a vacation.

You rate him highly, I don't. It's funny because you were the biggest anti-ronaldinho person and i valued his brief sejour at the club. Difference of opinions i guess.

Edit: As long as you understand frustration breeds exaggeration. Odu is obviously not as polished or experienced nor is he ready to start.

This post has been edited by il_diavolo_mtl: Mar 12 2011, 04:55 PM

[X-Offender]

You rate him highly, I don't. It's funny because you were the biggest anti-ronaldinho person and i valued his brief sejour at the club. Difference of opinions i guess.

I had a good motive. Ronaldinho is a finished player, otherwise he wouldn't be playing for Flamengo right now. You can't compare him to Robinho, who's at the peak of his career. But other than that, you called him lazy and useless. You said we should sell him to Blackpool and you'd prefer Oduamadi over him. If that's not degradation, then I don't know what it is.

[il_diavolo_mtl]

I had a good motive. Ronaldinho is a finished player, otherwise he wouldn't be playing for Flamengo right now. You can't compare him to Robinho, who's at the peak of his career. But other than that, you called him lazy and useless. You said we should sell him to Blackpool and you'd prefer Oduamadi over him. If that's not degradation, then I don't know what it is.

I just can't get my head wrapped around a striker with no finishing/control/airial prowess as easily as you.
Btw his peek was at pre-City IMO. I can't understand how overrated a player he is and how much he cost us...

[acid911]

I just can't get my head wrapped around a striker with no finishing/control/airial prowess as easily as you.
Btw his peek was at pre-City IMO. I can't understand how overrated a player he is and how much he cost us...

This. A 100 times over. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) Robinho is, and always will be a dud. A difference maker he is not, and him being a discard is the biggest reason he is playing for us. Same holds true for quite a few new players we signed up recently, players who did not cut or were past it, and Galliani got them in on cheap.

I can potentially name a dozen attackers who we could have gone for instead of this whaler, 18 million would have got us much more exotic choices, from Rossi to Nilmar and friends. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Having said that, I am not ungrateful for him being here, I always thought of him as the first choice backup to our attacking combo, something to bring on from the bench with not much noticeable dip in quality. And he has done okay up till now in the league (terrible in the CL, though), but his displays are no way near the hype/cost/hoopla. The two biggest reasons he played so much are:

1) R80 got shown the door,
2) Our savior Ibra is not compatible with Pato, and vice versa.

I still think we haven't seen the real Robinho yet. Remember Eto'o last season at Inter. He did decent enough, but he wasn't determinant in Inter's success. This season, they can't do without him. Robinho could very well be another player next season. Let's not jump to conclusions yet.

And who knows, maybe we won't ever. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Having followed and observed Robinho for years, I know his limitations, and what he is capable of. For him to bring his A+ game he'll have to play like he did 6-8 years back. A lot of people in Brazil think of him as someone who failed to live up to his full talent/potential. The keyword being full. And besides, Eto still was more than decent enough in his first season. Can't really compare him with Robinho.

But all said and done, you are right, let's not jump to absolute conclusions yet. Still the guy has a lot to do, starting with improving his finishing. Tenfold.

He is a good player indeed, his work rate is admired very much ... But yeah, he is not a good controller of the ball, and hence he is not a player to look to when the going gets tough.

True, that's one way to put it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) But still, I fail to see any signs of improvement. Neither to his ball control or finishing. And that's worrisome, IMO.