[arivanjj]

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Match info:
Saturday, 2nd October 2010
20:45 CET

[CHU-LIP]

If Ronaldinho moves a lot, contributes in defending, WORKS FOR THE TEAM, then I am all for Ronaldinho as AM in a 4-3-1-2, but the way he has been... he is VERY FAR away from being that, then EVEN Seedorf is a better AM option. I would never call Ronaldinho a midfielder as long as he doesn't move and defend enough... now he is a too static wingerish forward.

[han2503]

If Ronaldinho moves a lot, contributes in defending, WORKS FOR THE TEAM, then I am all for Ronaldinho as AM in a 4-3-1-2, but the way he has been... he is VERY FAR away from being that, then EVEN Seedorf is a better AM option. I would never call Ronaldinho a midfielder as long as he doesn't move and defend enough... now he is a too static wingerish forward.

Playing on the lest wing used to give him that excuse, because he didn't really need to move much, wait for the ball, make a trick, cut inside or cross in for Pato/Boriello

Having him play behind the strikers would require him to move a lot more, stay compact with his midfield when we don't have the ball etc, etc. This would all depend on the tactics Allegri would implement. But playing Dinho on that wing is just not an option anymore. Seedorf to me is just not an AM, no matter which way I look at it. watching him against Ajax just drove this further home to me. Seedorf is a CM, imo Pirlo is more of an AM then him. Seedorf likes to play that backwords pass too much, he usually stops the ball when we're trying to counter. Playing him in the AM position doesn't make any sense to me, the fact that he doesn't really track back all that much also baffles me as to why you would wan him to play ahead of Dinho so much since he usually strolls or jogs (on special occasions) for 85% of a match

[CHU-LIP]

Playing on the lest wing used to give him that excuse, because he didn't really need to move much, wait for the bal, make a trick, cut inside or cross in for Pato/Boriello

Having him play behind the strikers would require him to move a lot more, stay compact with his midfield when we don't have the bal etc, etc. This would all depend on the tactics Allegri would implement. But playing Dinho on that wing is just not an option anymore. Seedorf to me is just not an AM, no matter which way I look at it. watching him against Ajax just drove this further how to me. Seedorf is a CM, imo Pirlo is more of an AM then him. Seedorf like to play that backwords pass too much, he usually stops the ball when we're trying to counter. Playing him in the AM position doesn't make any sense to me, the fact that he doesn't really track back all that much also baffls me as to why you would wan him to play ahead of Dinho so much since he usually strolls or jogs or special occasions for 85% of a match

And Ronaldinho doesn't? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I disagree that as LW he doesn't need to move much. The fact he doesn't do that enough hurts the team.

[han2503]

And Ronaldinho doesn't? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I disagree that as LW he doesn't need to move much. The fact he doesn't do that enough hurts the team.

Not when we're counter attacking, in buildup play, he does it but not we're countering. When you watch a game in the San Siro and we're playing badly has it never occured to you that Seedorf is usually the one getting booed and whistled most of the time? Not any other player, not Pirlo, Dinho, Ambro, Rino, non of them, just Seedorf. Why? we need a goal and what does he do? Keep passing it back to the defense or sideways.

Last season it was an excuse, simply because he had Antonini and Seedorf there, he still moved back but not in the wayyou or I would want him to. It still worked 99% of the time for a lot of reasons, reasons that aren't valid now. So you've got that left side where Dinho is static waiting for the ball, Seedorf is just not on his game, by the time Dinho gets that ball he's got 2 players on him, Antonini makes that run but Dihno and Seedorf are already stuck in a mess.

Dinho going into a midfield area would force that movement from him. It's a matter of trying, if not then we need to figure something out and fast, Dihno or no Dinho it's not going to work out at this rate, we're still not defnesively compact with or without him at this point, if Ajax weren't firing blanks we could have lost that game. Usually we managed to stop them with that last ditch tackle in our box or around it, to me that doesn't signify defensive stability, just that we have 2 good CBs who can handle all the pressure our midfield puts them under