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post Aug 31 2010, 04:48 PM
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post Sep 1 2010, 11:25 PM
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I'd rather have Borriello than a petulant striker who has pitched fits at every european club he's played for.

Borriello had his problems also prior to joining. I'm willing to give Robinho the same chance like every new player should be granted. After all Milan has a special effect on players even Real and especially City cannot provide.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 1 2010, 03:25 PM) *
Borriello had his problems also prior to joining. I'm willing to give Robinho the same chance like every new player should be granted. After all Milan has a special effect on players even Real and especially City cannot provide.


exactly this.

Robinho's club career has been a mismanaged one, and a classic example of why if you are young, stay away from Madrid. They don't embrace their players until they've proven themselves. and if you're young, and amongst Galacticos, then how can you possibly succeed instantly (history repeating itself with Benzema currently?). He showed signs of breaking out (for Brazil he started becoming a protagonist off of his Copa America 07 performances, and his last season for the club he was 2nd in scoring and assists for the team, despite not playing consistently). But Madrid just used his rising stock to try and leverage a move for C-Ron. R9 is gone, so Robinho realizes the club he thought he was going to actually wasn't, and bounced anywhere he could.

Man City is also a cold place (pun intended - both the team camaraderie and weather matter for fun&sun-loving Robinho!). Sure, he had a huge price tag. But he lived up to it at first, hitting 15 goals on a mediocre team. Then next season, after an injury, without consistent playing time, he's criticized for not immediately banging in hattricks (expectation and criticism thank to his price-tag and media hype). Elano's gone. He doesn't see his future at Man City, wants out. He takes the English media wrap for being a problem-child, flop.

The truth is though, is that Robinho, a massively talented player, was at these clubs at a time when they were unstable, and not necessarily good incubators for his talents.

Santos is the only club where Robinho has felt like he was actually valued at the club, and has grown into his role there. and look how he performs there. For the Brazil NT, Robinho feels important, and excels, undisputedly so.

Milan represents the kind of environment that players like him rehabilitate in. Seedorf and Pirlo blossomed here after criticism. So did R99 pre-reinjury. Beckham fit in seamlessly and proved his worth after being written off. Ronaldinho's done the same.

Also, Robinho's arrival to this club is not a HUGE money situation. He was a bargain buy. He's 26/27, thinking about being the centerpiece superstar veteran of Brazil 2014. He's even more motivated than say a 29 yr old Ibra. Pato being here is all the more reason for Robinho to commit to the club. Dinho's proven he can be a hit at Milan if he follows his lead. Robinho knows that he's coming into a team where there won't necessarily be the intense, overbearing pressure on him to succeed immediately. Players always feel a sense of calm playing for us, unlike the stresses of Madrid and England.

If we are to maximize the potential of our 'cut price Galacticos', it'll be because of the AC Milan environment. It'll be because Allegri's nonchalant, pragmatic persona + shrewd tactics inspires confidence in our team. and players like Rino, Ambro, Dinho, Clarence, Nesta, Thiago, Antonini, Zambro (the core from the team that grew together last year) all lead by example - by continuing to play with hunger, not with entitlement like we did under Carlo.

If we keep the unity of the team, but turn up the intensity both vocally/physically (Rino, Ambro, Dinho, Clarence), Boateng's fiery hunger could feed into it, and Zlatan and Robinho will feel they have something to prove to Milan.

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post Sep 2 2010, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE (vnata001 @ Sep 1 2010, 11:29 PM) *
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- Portman   Robinho   Aug 31 2010, 04:48 PM
- - TriniKing_CE   Welcome!!!!   Aug 31 2010, 04:49 PM
- - acid911   Welcome to Milan! Now let's win something...   Aug 31 2010, 04:51 PM
- - X-Offender   Welcome champion! A player I've always adm...   Aug 31 2010, 04:52 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   Welcome Robinho.   Aug 31 2010, 04:53 PM
- - Jack Bauer   Welcome!!   Aug 31 2010, 04:54 PM
- - samira   Welcome Robinho!   Aug 31 2010, 04:55 PM
- - anano1214   welcome   Aug 31 2010, 05:19 PM
- - Fishdoll   Meh. Forzamilanandwelcome, I guess.   Aug 31 2010, 05:20 PM
- - d'Arc.LP   RE: Robinho   Aug 31 2010, 05:23 PM
- - elcordobez   So now it's done who do you think will get n...   Aug 31 2010, 05:23 PM
- - samira   what is zlatan getting?   Aug 31 2010, 05:42 PM
- - Rossoneri7   WTF ?! Hey !!   Aug 31 2010, 05:47 PM
|- - milan00047   Wow! Milan have the best transfer window of al...   Aug 31 2010, 05:49 PM
- - Fishdoll   Hi, R7!   Aug 31 2010, 05:49 PM
- - Ry4n   He better track back like Ronnie did in the Lecce ...   Aug 31 2010, 05:49 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Ry4n @ Aug 31 2010, 06:49 PM) He b...   Aug 31 2010, 06:30 PM
|- - Ry4n   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 31 2010, 09...   Aug 31 2010, 06:39 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   He might take a year to get used to Serie A. Just ...   Aug 31 2010, 06:33 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 31 2010, 07:33 ...   Aug 31 2010, 06:41 PM
- - Jack Sparrow   I'm flying a million feet in space right now...   Aug 31 2010, 06:42 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Welcome   Aug 31 2010, 06:57 PM
- - X-Offender   The official website update the players section in...   Aug 31 2010, 06:57 PM
|- - Jack Sparrow   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 31 2010, 11...   Aug 31 2010, 07:04 PM
- - X-Offender   Galliani said to Sky that Robinho cost us 18m plus...   Aug 31 2010, 07:04 PM
|- - Portman   QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 31 2010, 07...   Aug 31 2010, 09:29 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Exactly. Back then when you had an old fashionde 1...   Aug 31 2010, 07:06 PM
- - agenth   hey there Porti! haven't seen you since a ...   Aug 31 2010, 07:16 PM
- - Zed.D   I'm not his biggest fan but I do rate him as f...   Aug 31 2010, 07:49 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 31 2010, 06:33 ...   Aug 31 2010, 09:03 PM
- - TriniKing_CE   Robinho in Milan - 31/08/2010 http://www.youtube...   Aug 31 2010, 10:58 PM
- - Rossoneri7   I still cant get this out of my mind !! R...   Aug 31 2010, 11:07 PM
- - Tennie   (Zambrotta, Oddo, Abate, Bonera).   Aug 31 2010, 11:09 PM
|- - TriniKing_CE   QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 31 2010, 06:09 PM) (Z...   Aug 31 2010, 11:11 PM
- - TriniKing_CE   Robinho... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bngj...   Aug 31 2010, 11:12 PM
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|- - Ry4n   QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 1 2010, 02:39 AM) I...   Aug 31 2010, 11:53 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 1 2010, 12:39 AM) I...   Aug 31 2010, 11:54 PM
- - han2503   Well Robinho does have a terrible track record wit...   Sep 1 2010, 12:01 AM
- - Tennie   If it does, I'll happily admit I was wrong. Ho...   Sep 1 2010, 12:01 AM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 1 2010, 12:01 AM) If ...   Sep 1 2010, 12:07 AM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Tennie @ Sep 1 2010, 01:01 AM) If ...   Sep 1 2010, 12:26 AM
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|- - han2503   QUOTE (Linkman @ Sep 2 2010, 02:48 AM) Yo...   Sep 2 2010, 08:53 AM
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|- - han2503   QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 2 2010, 03:28 PM) Late...   Sep 2 2010, 03:31 PM
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- - Bluesummers   should have taken that 18m and bought srna.   Sep 28 2010, 08:43 AM
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|- - han2503   QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 3 2010, 11:11 A...   Oct 3 2010, 12:37 PM
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|- - Jack Bauer   QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 3 2010, 03:37 PM) Is...   Oct 3 2010, 01:35 PM
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|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Sep 29 2010, 02:05 A...   Sep 29 2010, 01:41 AM
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|- - Dracoris   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 29 2010, 07:22 ...   Sep 29 2010, 08:18 PM
|- - X-Offender   QUOTE (Dracoris @ Sep 29 2010, 09:18 PM) ...   Sep 29 2010, 10:08 PM
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