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post Nov 16 2008, 05:57 PM
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After seeing Milan over the past month it seems every game is going to be a tough one for us. hopefully Pirlo's return will make us play better football. hopefully a different tactic will see us do better up front. hopefully...
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post Nov 17 2008, 07:13 AM
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I still am ok with a 1-0 if it means Ronaldinho and Kaka are moving 10% more into getting into a grove. And I think it makes sense that a formation which needs to click, gets practise time against the weaker teams.

As for the two strikers thing, yes it will work now. But it means nothing. Last season Roma's 4-2-3-1 was the greatest thing since Elvis Presley. I remember all the statments over here in the forum, about how they played brilliant football etc. But then what happened? They got figured out, and now they're in the pooper without a Plan B.

I've given up on understanding this forum. One second we complain of predictability and being figured out, and then we say we should go back to how things were.

Seedorf---Kaka
-----Striker----

is different from

Kaka---Ronaldinho
----Striker-------

The second formation also has way more potential. Potential which we paid a lot of money for, and which needs to be realised really quickly. If Carlo doesn't play Ronaldinho, he's just doing what Mou did to Sheva...destroy a player's career and end up with 21 million for nothing.

Carlo didn't want Ronaldinho, he wanted Eto'o and Drogba. Every season they do this. Give Carlo 1 player he wants (in this case Flamini) and the rest are people whom Carlo has to rehabilitate. Yet we have a man, who doesn't complain with the cards he's dealt and bravely tries to play his hand. I don't recall Carlo coming to a conference and saying my team are too weak, I can't do anything with it. He's a good coach, and a good man, and if the notorious Silvio Berlusconi comes out and says, Carletto is family...I think it means something. Surely, if they thought the coach was the problem, they wouldn't have spent all this money on the players would they?

As for Silvio being in love with the coach...puhleeze... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) You don't become a multi-millionaire and then Prime Minister of your country, by harbouring sentimental attachements to people.

Is he Milan's SAF. I think he could be. Of course unlike Carlo, SAF has carte blanche. Hell, he is Manchester United. A position Carletto will never be given, for another 4 or 5 years at least.

I think in 7 years, a coach still has the management and the team behind him, it counts for a lot of respect. Respect which is sadly lacking on this forum.

Case in point...Favalli. Nobody notices the good match he had yesterday. But every single mistake he makes is amplified beyond belief. Same with Emerson. He won us two matches, before he made that foul (regrettable, but it's not like it's never ever happened in football before)..and it cost us a draw...too bad...but at that point he is back to being shite in our eyes.

Rino brought down Gerrard in Istanbul. That's glossed over, coz at that time he was likeable. Then last season happened, and nobody gave a flying f@ck that Rino and Pirlo are probably the most overworked footballers in Italy, and we sentenced them to the firing squad. Suddenly this season, Rino is back, and he's playing great,and now since we have nobody else, we train our guns on Ambro, who's been the worst of the lot. Not Flamini, he's young, he's fashionable...nope...he needs time..when the fact was yesterday against Chievo, he wasn't too great at all...as 'bad' as Ambro has been.

Well..this post has gone in totally the wrong direction from what I intended. But I just wanted to raise a protest,at how 90% of this forum feels that 'discussion' simply means you point a gun at the most culpable party and unleash the most stringent tirades possible.

Sure let's go for it...fire everyone who's not 'fashionable' and get in the cool guys. Oh wait...they've already tried that. I think that team is called Madrid. Oh and there's another team in England who does exactly what the fans want.... after all the fans 'pay the player's wages' ((IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )....my darling Newcastle...not going too well is it?


Whatever...I'm done...I'll stick to the Hot Girls thread from now on. Lately I can't seem to find anything to agree upon in the forum. Not even when it comes to music or movies. *Yawn* This is a drag.
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- zdrossoneri   Torino - Milan --- 23/11/2008   Nov 16 2008, 05:57 PM
- - Rossoneri7   ahh .. So its Torino's turn definite 3 poi...   Nov 16 2008, 06:01 PM
- - acid911   QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 16 2008, 09:57 P...   Nov 16 2008, 06:07 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 16 2008, 06:01 PM...   Nov 16 2008, 06:55 PM
|- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 16 2008, 08:55 PM) D...   Nov 16 2008, 07:17 PM
|- - MizNelson   QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 16 2008, 10:17 AM...   Nov 16 2008, 10:45 PM
- - Tennie   I would like to see a 4-3-1-2 for this one, with o...   Nov 16 2008, 06:58 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 16 2008, 06:58 PM) I ...   Nov 16 2008, 07:11 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 16 2008, 07:17 PM...   Nov 16 2008, 07:37 PM
- - mishie   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 16 2008, 06:37 PM) S...   Nov 16 2008, 07:52 PM
- - Rossoneri7   Kaka' wasn't offside .. The lines man was ...   Nov 16 2008, 07:53 PM
- - mishie   QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 16 2008, 06:53 PM...   Nov 16 2008, 07:55 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (mishie @ Nov 16 2008, 07:52 PM) ho...   Nov 16 2008, 08:09 PM
- - mishie   QUOTE It is useless when it's just passing it ...   Nov 16 2008, 08:20 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (mishie @ Nov 16 2008, 08:20 PM) i ...   Nov 16 2008, 08:23 PM
- - Tennie   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 16 2008, 02:09 PM) I...   Nov 16 2008, 08:27 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 16 2008, 08:27 PM) +1...   Nov 16 2008, 08:33 PM
- - mishie   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 16 2008, 07:23 PM) W...   Nov 16 2008, 08:31 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (mishie @ Nov 16 2008, 08:31 PM) an...   Nov 16 2008, 08:38 PM
|- - zdrossoneri   QUOTE (mishie @ Nov 16 2008, 11:01 PM) an...   Nov 16 2008, 09:41 PM
- - Tennie   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 16 2008, 02:33 PM) T...   Nov 16 2008, 08:44 PM
- - mishie   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 16 2008, 07:38 PM) I...   Nov 16 2008, 08:47 PM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (mishie @ Nov 16 2008, 08:47 PM) we...   Nov 16 2008, 08:58 PM
- - CrazyMilanFan   i hope for 2 stikers but that will be very unlikly...   Nov 16 2008, 08:53 PM
- - han2503   Oh btw, as for the 2 strikers thing, we know it...   Nov 16 2008, 08:59 PM
- - mishie   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 16 2008, 07:58 PM) I...   Nov 16 2008, 09:12 PM
- - zdrossoneri   Barca for example usually has a better possession ...   Nov 16 2008, 09:45 PM
- - Tennie   You're right, zd. We don't. Which is stupe...   Nov 16 2008, 09:48 PM
|- - zdrossoneri   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 17 2008, 12:18 AM) Yo...   Nov 16 2008, 10:10 PM
- - mishie   QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 16 2008, 08:41 P...   Nov 16 2008, 10:04 PM
|- - zdrossoneri   QUOTE (mishie @ Nov 17 2008, 12:34 AM) if...   Nov 16 2008, 10:13 PM
- - Tennie   Fishdoll is scared. I'm agreeing with zd again...   Nov 16 2008, 10:16 PM
|- - zdrossoneri   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 17 2008, 12:46 AM) Fi...   Nov 16 2008, 10:25 PM
- - mishie   To be honest with you all in pretty sure if Carlo ...   Nov 16 2008, 10:20 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 16 2008, 10:16 PM) Fi...   Nov 16 2008, 10:26 PM
- - jefri91   As much as I love Milan, I don't think I can w...   Nov 16 2008, 10:29 PM
- - m1ke   I'd happily win every remaining game 1-0 if it...   Nov 17 2008, 12:42 AM
- - Fillipo Simone   We're gonna win this. No question. 4-0, like t...   Nov 17 2008, 01:51 AM
|- - MizNelson   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Nov 16 2008, 10:13 ...   Nov 17 2008, 07:30 AM
||- - acid911   QUOTE (MizNelson @ Nov 17 2008, 11:30 AM)...   Nov 17 2008, 07:50 AM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Nov 17 2008, 07:13 ...   Nov 17 2008, 08:06 AM
|- - zdrossoneri   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 17 2008, 10:36 AM) O...   Nov 17 2008, 09:17 AM
- - rhy_A4   I predict a Torino 0 - 3 Milan Seedorf , Pato and ...   Nov 17 2008, 08:26 AM
|- - han2503   QUOTE (rhy_A4 @ Nov 17 2008, 08:26 AM) I ...   Nov 17 2008, 08:36 AM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 17 2008, 12:36 PM) C...   Nov 17 2008, 09:56 AM
- - Tennie   +1 to what Jack said. (except restricting myself t...   Nov 17 2008, 12:13 PM
- - zdrossoneri   Crisis? What Crisis?   Nov 17 2008, 12:57 PM
- - Il Diavolo   Oh, come on! Referees, luck, fluke goals?...   Nov 17 2008, 02:03 PM
- - kizo   There are two milan players on this photo. The...   Nov 17 2008, 02:37 PM
|- - MizNelson   QUOTE (kizo @ Nov 17 2008, 05:37 AM) Ther...   Nov 17 2008, 09:51 PM
- - acid911   Sheva and Kaladzity. Wonder who the third guy is...   Nov 17 2008, 02:38 PM
- - whoarethepatriots   I hope i get to see some Abate action   Nov 17 2008, 03:54 PM
- - Tennie   Your hopes will be dashed then, whoarethepatriots....   Nov 17 2008, 04:03 PM
|- - whoarethepatriots   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 17 2008, 03:03 PM) Yo...   Nov 17 2008, 06:37 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 17 2008, 09:56 AM) S...   Nov 17 2008, 06:27 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 17 2008, 10:27 PM) S...   Nov 18 2008, 05:04 AM
|- - MizNelson   QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 17 2008, 08:04 PM) W...   Nov 18 2008, 06:36 AM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (MizNelson @ Nov 18 2008, 10:36 AM)...   Nov 18 2008, 06:42 AM
|- - zdrossoneri   QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 18 2008, 10:12 AM) U...   Nov 18 2008, 08:05 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Nov 19 2008, 12:05 A...   Nov 18 2008, 09:01 PM
- - Tennie   Presumably it's talking about Dida participati...   Nov 17 2008, 10:08 PM
|- - MizNelson   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 17 2008, 01:08 PM) Pr...   Nov 17 2008, 10:12 PM
- - acid911   Oh, and first you think I'm a girl. Then you t...   Nov 18 2008, 06:48 AM
|- - MizNelson   QUOTE (acid911 @ Nov 17 2008, 09:48 PM) ...   Nov 18 2008, 07:23 AM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (MizNelson @ Nov 18 2008, 11:23 AM)...   Nov 18 2008, 07:33 AM
- - CrazyMilanFan   so how many our players are on international duty ...   Nov 18 2008, 05:10 PM
- - Tennie   Bonera, Gattuso, Cardacio, Pato, Kaka, Jankulovski...   Nov 18 2008, 05:11 PM
|- - CrazyMilanFan   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 18 2008, 04:11 PM) Bo...   Nov 18 2008, 05:12 PM
- - Tennie   Haha. Any time, CMF. Also, I forgot one: Darmian ...   Nov 18 2008, 05:18 PM
- - Il Diavolo   Sheva won't even play for Ukraine? Man, and we...   Nov 19 2008, 12:13 AM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Il Diavolo @ Nov 19 2008, 04:13 AM...   Nov 19 2008, 12:40 AM
- - Tennie   I'm not sure it's quite time to stick a fo...   Nov 19 2008, 01:19 AM
- - CrazyMilanFan   may be we can start with r80 behind sheva and pipp...   Nov 19 2008, 10:49 AM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Il Diavolo @ Nov 19 2008, 12:13 AM...   Nov 19 2008, 11:22 AM
- - Tennie   Lippi at least is doing that, han. De Sanctis, Bon...   Nov 19 2008, 12:16 PM
- - Tennie   Morning training has taken place. The first half ...   Nov 19 2008, 12:51 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 19 2008, 12:16 PM) Li...   Nov 19 2008, 04:16 PM
|- - zdrossoneri   QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 19 2008, 07:46 PM) A...   Nov 20 2008, 02:40 PM
- - Tennie   No, I dont' think Barzagli was called up for t...   Nov 19 2008, 04:21 PM
- - Il Diavolo   Rosina is not in Gazzetta's predicted line-up?...   Nov 19 2008, 04:27 PM
- - Tennie   Nah, Rosina has totally fallen out of form and out...   Nov 19 2008, 04:28 PM
- - han2503   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 19 2008, 04:21 PM) No...   Nov 19 2008, 04:37 PM
- - Il Diavolo   I heard he's not friendly with De Biasi. Rosin...   Nov 19 2008, 04:38 PM
- - Tennie   Afternoon training has taken place. After warmups ...   Nov 19 2008, 05:40 PM
- - Rossoneri7   So inter and Juve play on Saturday .. And Milan pl...   Nov 19 2008, 09:38 PM
- - TriniKing_CE   Del Piero to destroy Inter Milan! Juve ov...   Nov 19 2008, 10:25 PM
- - Tennie   Here's Mediaset's projected lineup: Abbiat...   Nov 20 2008, 01:40 PM
- - Il Diavolo   No Paolo?   Nov 20 2008, 01:40 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Il Diavolo @ Nov 20 2008, 05:40 PM...   Nov 20 2008, 02:00 PM
- - Tennie   I suspect Il Capitano is being kept wrapped in bub...   Nov 20 2008, 02:23 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Pirlo back. Should be most interesting to see. The...   Nov 20 2008, 02:34 PM
|- - Rossoneri7   @Fillipo I would really like to see that again ...   Nov 20 2008, 02:45 PM
- - Fillipo Simone   Isn't Floro Flores an Argie?   Nov 20 2008, 02:43 PM
|- - zdrossoneri   QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Nov 20 2008, 06:1...   Nov 20 2008, 03:04 PM
- - Tennie   (Perrotta is a midfielder, zd. And didn't play...   Nov 20 2008, 02:59 PM
- - TriniKing_CE   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 19 2008, 11:21 AM) No...   Nov 20 2008, 03:06 PM
|- - acid911   QUOTE (Tennie @ Nov 20 2008, 06:23 PM) I ...   Nov 20 2008, 03:45 PM
- - Il Diavolo   And noone noticed there's only one DM?   Nov 20 2008, 04:31 PM
- - Rossoneri7   QUOTE (Il Diavolo @ Nov 20 2008, 06:31 PM...   Nov 20 2008, 04:37 PM
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