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post Aug 20 2021, 08:53 PM
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League starts back up tomorrow, we play the first game Monday night against Samp
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 20 2021, 10:53 PM) *
League starts back up tomorrow, we play the first game Monday night against Samp



What...time passes fast.
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QUOTE (William405 @ Aug 20 2021, 11:40 PM) *
What...time passes fast.


Bro, all other leagues have already started since a while. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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1 assist and 1 goal for Capanoglu in his first 15 minutes with Inter. I wonder if Paolo is watching... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Well...
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Even without Conte, Hakimi and Lukaku, Inter are still on a whole other level.
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They are?

Mind that Inzaghi usually starts the season strong and then tends to loose momentum. Not unlike Pioli for that matter.
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Let's chill, they're playing Genoa.
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post Aug 21 2021, 10:17 PM
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Mind that Inzaghi usually starts the season strong and then tends to loose momentum.


Different team, different players.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 22 2021, 12:17 AM) *
Different team, different players.

Same coach. It happens very often and it isn't just a coincidence.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 22 2021, 12:49 PM) *
Same coach. It happens very often and it isn't just a coincidence.


Yeah, sorry, I don't buy that.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 21 2021, 05:48 PM) *
1 assist and 1 goal for Capanoglu in his first 15 minutes with Inter. I wonder if Paolo is watching... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Correct me if I'm wrong but you were okay with us letting him go...

This is all revisionist history now because he played well against one of the worst sides in the league who always bend over for Inter. Their goal difference over the last 2 seasons or so was 0-24 to Inter (I have to check that again as I'm not sure of the amount of games but it was a ridiculous number)

Genoa were terrible and this was a typical "look what you're missing" performance from Hakan, his post-match comments show that he's still salty.

And I was one of the few here who wanted us to keep him. But let's not gloss over the time Hakan spent at Milan. 8 or so good months out of 4 years.

QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 21 2021, 07:03 PM) *
Even without Conte, Hakimi and Lukaku, Inter are still on a whole other level.

Come on now. It was the opener against Genoa... Let's see how they do against other sides before naming them champions on matchday 1.
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Haha, good point, revisionist history (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 22 2021, 03:52 PM) *
Correct me if I'm wrong but you were okay with us letting him go...


Yes, I was. Where did I say I wasn't? My remark was towards Maldini who, as sporting director, let him go for free. He's the one that should be bitter about it.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 22 2021, 03:52 PM) *
Come on now. It was the opener against Genoa... Let's see how they do against other sides before naming them champions on matchday 1.


I didn't crown them champions on matchday 1. I said they're still great. Until they prove us otherwise, let's stop trying to justify their win as it was "just Genoa".

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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 22 2021, 07:31 PM) *
Yes, I was. Where did I say I wasn't? My remark was towards Maldini who, as sporting director, let him go for free. He's the one that should be bitter about it.

You're the one pointing out his contributions...

As I said in May/June, this is going to haunt us. Forget about Hakan who we all know well enough, but letting him go for free has created a hole for us that we seemingly cannot fill, not to mention that it would make it almost impossible to get in the RW we needed...

I understand not wanting to overpay players, especially ones who do not deserve it as was the case with Hakan. But we're seemingly going to make the same f@ck up with Kessie and if that happens serious questions would have to be asked


Anyway, Bennacer will not start today as he's not in optimal condition due to just recovering from Covid. Krunic will start instead...

This obsession Pioli has with this subpar dude is really getting old. Why not play Pobega there FFS???
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 23 2021, 10:04 AM) *
You're the one pointing out his contributions...


And? Even more so why Paolo should feel embarrassed.

QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 23 2021, 10:04 AM) *
Anyway, Bennacer will not start today as he's not in optimal condition due to just recovering from Covid. Krunic will start instead...

This obsession Pioli has with this subpar dude is really getting old. Why not play Pobega there FFS???


Pobega has been lukewarm in pre-season, it wouldn't change a thing. This is another case that would have been solved had we not pushed Bakayoko's signing in the final week.
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I'm kinda secretly hoping we lose this one, maybe 2-0 or 3-1, so it can act as a wake up call to management that we're nowhere near competitive as we are right now.

Anyway, it's gonna end in a draw. No way we're winning tonight.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 23 2021, 10:57 AM) *
And? Even more so why Paolo should feel embarrassed.



Pobega has been lukewarm in pre-season, it wouldn't change a thing. This is another case that would have been solved had we not pushed Bakayoko's signing in the final week.

But by that definition, you and Paolo were on the same page re Hakan - Not worth what he was asking for. So why should Paolo be embarrassed?

And many other Milan fans were in your corner as well btw, this is not just me pointing out your sudden turn around. Most Milan fans wanted to see the back of him. They have been abusing him on social media for months now. But suddenly because he had a decent game against a Genoa that bends over backwards for Inter every time, it was suddenly a mistake to let him go...

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I'm kinda secretly hoping we lose this one, maybe 2-0 or 3-1, so it can act as a wake up call to management that we're nowhere near competitive as we are right now.

Anyway, it's gonna end in a draw. No way we're winning tonight.

Nah man, no matter what we need a strong start similar to last year. We can't start slow and lose points here. A loss won't change anything. It won't suddenly make the management decide to pump money into the side. They all know what the problems are, no need for a loss to spell it out. Whoever we close for this week will remain the same, whether we win or lose today


And agreed re the midfield, but Pobega at least did better than Krunic in the pre-season. This is the same BS we had to deal with under Galliania, leaving the most crucial signings to the last minute and wasting the first few months until they integrate into the side.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 23 2021, 01:46 PM) *
But by that definition, you and Paolo were on the same page re Hakan - Not worth what he was asking for. So why should Paolo be embarrassed?

And many other Milan fans were in your corner as well btw, this is not just me pointing out your sudden turn around. Most Milan fans wanted to see the back of him. They have been abusing him on social media for months now. But suddenly because he had a decent game against a Genoa that bends over backwards for Inter every time, it was suddenly a mistake to let him go...


It's not the same in the slightest.

I'm a fan who doesn't like a player and doesn't care about the financial of the club. I only care about winning.

Paolo is the sporting director of AC Milan, who clearly didn't want to lose Capanoglu on a free and is now watching him have an excellent debut for the city rivals.

If Capanoglu turns out a successful singing for Inter, the blame is entirely on Maldini, that's all there is to it. But even poor Paolo probably had Gazidis dictating him not a cent more for Capanoglu's renewal.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 23 2021, 01:58 PM) *
It's not the same in the slightest.

I'm a fan who doesn't like a player and doesn't care about the financial of the club. I only care about winning.

Paolo is the sporting director of AC Milan, who clearly didn't want to lose Capanoglu on a free and is now watching him have an excellent debut for the city rivals.

If Capanoglu turns out a successful singing for Inter, the blame is entirely on Maldini, that's all there is to it. But even poor Paolo probably had Gazidis dictating him not a cent more for Capanoglu's renewal.

Ah so general consensus doesn't matter when it turns out not to be a good decision.

For me it was always the wrong move to let him go for free. But at some point you have to let it go. Maldini and the management made their offer to him based on what they thought he deserved, it was always obvious that staying at Milan would have been Hakan's last choice if no other opportunities came up. For me it was clear that he was using the Euros as a personal advert for himself, obviously it didn't go well for him on that front but he got lucky with Eriksson's heart issues because if that hadn't happened Inter wouldn't have gone for him either and he'd have reluctantly renewed.

Had we already signed a better replacement we wouldn't even care that he did well in the opening game. Hakan has always been this way, he blows hot and cold. I feel like I've stepped into the twilight zone sometimes, the other day I saw someone compare him to KDB ffs!

And I was someone who advocated for him to stay until the final minute btw. Even if I knew he had clear flaws to his game and that Milan wasn't first choice for him.

But we move.

Let's see if we can replace him by the end of the window. Because that would be the catastrophe for us here, no letting him go
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Maignan with some awesome outballs so far
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Leao looking good as well
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 23 2021, 08:58 PM) *
Maignan with some awesome outballs so far

He is like the main playmaker role (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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I like this Milan (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
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Lord krunic missed a sitter
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What have we ever done to deserve Krunic? It's like a curse.
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Krunic man...


How do you not score that. Or at least put it on target
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I'm liking what I'm seeing from Leao and Tonali mostly, it looks like they're ready to make that step up
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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Aug 23 2021, 08:05 PM) *
He is like the main playmaker role (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Really great with the ball

And some top notch reflexes as well
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Samp are not bad. Very end to end
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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Aug 23 2021, 08:23 PM) *
Samp are not bad. Very end to end

They have some decent players

I was worried during the opening few minutes as they were pressing us very aggressively and we tend to struggle against that type of setup. But we've settled well
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I don't get this squad. We started off so well, but for whatever reason we just stopped playing. Boring game. Sampdoria leave plenty of open spaces behind, guys like Brahim, Leao and Theo should be eating them alive. Ufff...
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 23 2021, 08:38 PM) *
I don't get this squad. We started off so well, but for whatever reason we just stopped playing. Boring game. Sampdoria leave plenty of open spaces behind, guys like Brahim, Leao and Theo should be eating them alive. Ufff...

We've missed some passes that could have produced killer counter attacks. We're obviously missing Kessie and Benna in that middle, and Diaz likes to carry the ball more rather than making the quick release pass.

There are some obvious things to work on but overall it has been an encouraging display considering we're missing the entire midfield 3 we used last season
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Bro, why is Pioli so fixated with Krunic? Why???
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 23 2021, 08:52 PM) *
We've missed some passes that could have produced killer counter attacks. We're obviously missing Kessie and Benna in that middle, and Diaz likes to carry the ball more rather than making the quick release pass.

There are some obvious things to work on but overall it has been an encouraging display considering we're missing the entire midfield 3 we used last season


Our biggest problem is we completely f*ck up the passing in the final third. Some terrible, terrible passes and decision making.

Also, can somebody please slap Theo for me? His nonchalance almost cost us a goal. Wake the f*ck up, frenchy!
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Theo killing me today. WTF is he doing?
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 23 2021, 09:18 PM) *
Bro, why is Pioli so fixated with Krunic? Why???

Krunic at AM gives me a stomach ache.
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This f@cking about with the ball in dangerous areas is giving me an ulcer
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Wtf are we doing.. Why play for 1-0
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Wtf are we doing.. Why play for 1-0

It's crazy! We're playing like a bunch of demented chickens ffs! Can't keep the ball to save our lives
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Ft 1-0

Not the best of performance but 3 points in the end.

Tonali, tomari and leao my picks
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FT

FFS... An insanely stupid game from us. Take the 3 points and learn!
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Tonali finally showing some spirit and quality. Still lacks that final ball. But I can say that about pretty much all of our players.
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Saw positives and negatives in this game. The positives are obvious; Tonali, Leao and Maignan. The negatives, the team is not as sharp and lots of mistakes were done.

But 3 points in the opening round is welcomed and this gives the team something to work on in training. Think as the season progresses, even Giroud will be well oiled in positioning, as the team gets accustomed to his movements.

Proud of Maldini in keeping the core entact and retaining the coach.

Forza Milan.
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Bad game and lucky win. Sampdoria didn't deserve to lose.

This mentality thing to take things calmly and nonchalant is truly annoying. We were wining 1-0 and Sampdoria was dictating most of the play, yet we were playing as if we knew we would win.

I have no idea where Pioli thinks is going to lead us in the long run, but it's not looking good.

About some of the players:

Maignan - Great performance. Very secure and dominant in the air. Has to work on his passing.

Tomori - Top class defender. So glad we signed him. Never had a better CB since Thiago Silva.

Tonali - I hope I'm not the only one who thought he was MASSIVE today. Best game he's had since he's been a Milan player. Held the midfield completely on his own. MotM easily for me.

Bennacer - Bro, he only played a handful of minutes, but he looked like a beast. Is Pioli even evaluating well his players' conditions? Should have started no doubt.
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Maignan showed so much qualities today. Really making the Donna decision look like an amazing one. Obviously one game is too little to judge him on, but he's insanely sharp on the ball, great reflexes and was good coming out for high balls. Excellent signing. And when looking at the other keepers in the league, I'd hazard to say that we still have the best number one in the league

Theo... Man he needs to wake up. Explosive one second, in a coma the next. Too many times he tried to do idiotic sh!t in dangerous areas. Always trying to play through a wall of players. When it comes off it looks amazing, but when it doesn't it's deadly for us.

Krunic and Tonali held down the double pivot as well as could be expected. There was a huge Kessie sized hole in the middle of the pitch for us and it was felt. Bakayoko is going to be coming in so hopefully the AFCON won't handicap us to the degree that I'm predicting it will. But to know we're haggling over a couple of million with him, when he'd this crucial for us makes me want to cry like a baby

Brahim. Really good imo. Obviously he brings different qualities compared to someone like Hakan who is more of a passer rather than a progressor. But he was aggressive, strong on the ball, had some really good plays and in the end scored the goal.

Leao. A very good game from him imo. He's working on his overall contribution which is good to see and some nice moments of real quality, once again, just missed that final ball

Alexis and Calabria, good and solid as per usual.

Giroud. Had so many moments where his quality shone through, was just missing that really good ball from his team mates to get his goal. But overall he's a great addition to the team and a great alternative to Ibra.
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Bad game and lucky win. Sampdoria didn't deserve to lose.

This mentality thing to take things calmly and nonchalant is truly annoying. We were wining 1-0 and Sampdoria was dictating most of the play, yet we were playing as if we knew we would win.

I have no idea where Pioli thinks is going to lead us in the long run, but it's not looking good.

About some of the players:

Maignan - Great performance. Very secure and dominant in the air. Has to work on his passing.

Tomori - Top class defender. So glad we signed him. Never had a better CB since Thiago Silva.

Tonali - I hope I'm not the only one who thought he was MASSIVE today. Best game he's had since he's been a Milan player. Held the midfield completely on his own. MotM easily for me.

Bennacer - Bro, he only played a handful of minutes, but he looked like a beast. Is Pioli even evaluating well his players' conditions? Should have started no doubt.

Totally agree on Tonali, had some massive moments in the defensive phase as well. He's going to make that step up this season. I'm sure of it. We really do sometimes forget that he's just 21 years old.

Re Bennacer. They are obviously going to be extremely cautious with him given the issues he had last season and the fact that he missed a good chunk of pre-season. But yes, he looked great an Tonali transformed as well when he came on. It was like he was finally unshackled to drive forward. Hopefully we'll see them both starting next Sunday



I want to point out again that we were missing key players here and this was the first game of the season so fitness levels are going to waver. Yes, I wholeheartedly agree though that in-game management has to be much better. I do not understand why we were playing like rushed headless chickens instead of holding on to possession. Samp were getting desperate and would have made errors that would allow us to go through. Instead we kept losing the ball and inviting pressure. Obviously this isn't the first time we've seen such shenanigans. Last season we barely scraped through in this very same fixture as well.
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On most aspects I can agree with you guys, but 2 main points defer.

1) You kept saying that Sampdoria will beat us and that they are a decent team. I all honesty, I've seen a relegation team play yesterday. They have no attacking concept, their coach does not seem to grasp some basics and most players look either out of shape or just past their prime. I think this team will have many difficulties scoring goals and will end up as a bottom team.

2) Leao was good? He started good, sure. But once again he became sluggish and not entirely connected with the rest of the team. Most of our troubles and buildup/counter attack problems are in connection with this.
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I was the only one who said Sampdoria will win, simply because away they're always a tough side to play against, and they have a bunch of decent players. And honestly, I don't think they were that bad. They were chasing for the draw until the last minute.

I agree about Leao. He had a few decent moments in the first half, but that's about it. Once again a player we should have offloaded and failed to.
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So, last night we played with a 3-man defence in the last minutes of the game. What do you guys think of this formation:

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Giroud - Rebic


Personally, I'd be in favour of it. At least we'd have strong players in every position.
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So, last night we played with a 3-man defence in the last minutes of the game. What do you guys think of this formation:

Maignan
Tomori - Kjaer - Romagnoli
Calabria - Kessie - Bennacer - Theo
Brahim
Giroud - Rebic


Personally, I'd be in favour of it. At least we'd have strong players in every position.


I really like that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I don't think we have the required depth at the CB position maybe to be playing it week in week out. But, it's definitely a nice alternative! Where is Ibra in the formation? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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I was the only one who said Sampdoria will win, simply because away they're always a tough side to play against, and they have a bunch of decent players. And honestly, I don't think they were that bad. They were chasing for the draw until the last minute.

I agree about Leao. He had a few decent moments in the first half, but that's about it. Once again a player we should have offloaded and failed to.


I agree, Sampdoria weren't have bad. Pipo, you're judging them as a top 4 team. The have very good players for where they are.
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I really like that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I don't think we have the required depth at the CB position maybe to be playing it week in week out. But, it's definitely a nice alternative! Where is Ibra in the formation? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Yeah, we'd need at least one decent CB backup that is not Kalulu or Gabbia.

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CL draw today at 18:00 FYI.
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Liverpool, Porto ATM

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Best was C but lucky to avoid group A



Tough group.. can't be tougher than that..

What is group A? Man city psg?
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Whatever group, it's going to be tough for this squad.

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Bruh, we might as well forfeit. How on earth are we supposed to cope with such a group? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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At least we avoided group A. This one it very hard though. As soon as Atalanta managed to get the bottom of the group halves, I knew we were in trouble. But well... it was always expected to go this way.

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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 24 2021, 09:03 PM) *
So, last night we played with a 3-man defence in the last minutes of the game. What do you guys think of this formation:

Maignan
Tomori - Kjaer - Romagnoli
Calabria - Kessie - Bennacer - Theo
Brahim
Giroud - Rebic


Personally, I'd be in favour of it. At least we'd have strong players in every position.

No man, no. We don't have the personnel to pull this one out. Rebić is as inefficient as Leao with that formation. And a 3 man defense is something you train day and night before you implement. Just remember how Montella failed.
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Inter won 1-3 against Verona with two goals from Correa.

They might have lost Lukaku upfront, but now they have so much options and versatility with Lautaro, Correa, Dzeko and Sanchez. And I read they're after a fifth striker as well.

Meanwhile we got 40 years old Zlatan who's more injured than fit, 35 years old Giroud who's scored a meagre 21 goals in his last 4 Premier League seasons, and some kid who's played a total of 23 games in the last 4 years due to injuries. Good to know.

On another note, Capanoglu was the worst on the pitch.
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Inter won 1-3 against Verona with two goals from Correa.

They might have lost Lukaku upfront, but now they have so much options and versatility with Lautaro, Correa, Dzeko and Sanchez. And I read they're after a fifth striker as well.

Meanwhile we got 40 years old Zlatan who's more injured than fit, 35 years old Giroud who's scored a meagre 21 goals in his last 4 Premier League seasons, and some kid who's played a total of 23 games in the last 4 years due to injuries. Good to know.

On another note, Capanoglu was the worst on the pitch.

Inter lost 3 huge elements from last season but they still have a very good side imo. Probably level with Juve now that C. Ron is gone.

What I do think though is that they will miss that edge that Conte gave them over the course of the season and it will be felt. The top spots will be very tight this season.

It's very worrying for us as 2 spots will surely go to Inter and Juve.

We'll have to fight tooth and nail to get one of the remaining 2 spots. Roma are going to have a bigger say this season imo, and Atalanta will not go quietly into the night. That's why we have to be out of the gates as quick as we were last season. The great start gave us a cushion for when things started going sideways.
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Btw, reading that Pioli could start Krunic again tomorrow...

If he does that I'm seriously going to start questioning his f@cking eye sight let alone his judgment.

He was waxing lyrical about him in the press conference. Either he's hyping him up because we want to sell or he's blind. The guy has no business starting games for us and when I think about the potentially precarious situation we have in the AM position with him being the direct alternative to Diaz, I get stomach pains...
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On most aspects I can agree with you guys, but 2 main points defer.

1) You kept saying that Sampdoria will beat us and that they are a decent team. I all honesty, I've seen a relegation team play yesterday. They have no attacking concept, their coach does not seem to grasp some basics and most players look either out of shape or just past their prime. I think this team will have many difficulties scoring goals and will end up as a bottom team.

2) Leao was good? He started good, sure. But once again he became sluggish and not entirely connected with the rest of the team. Most of our troubles and buildup/counter attack problems are in connection with this.

I'll give you the point on Leao that he faded out of the game

Look I think when it comes to him we have to have patience because the management invested heavily in him so they clearly believe in him. If he has a good season, which I think he will, it's all the better for us as his price will increase.

I do think that he will make the step up. He just needs to focus more during the game

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Yeah, we'd need at least one decent CB backup that is not Kalulu or Gabbia.

PS: Han will definitely be against it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Uhhhh

Don't mention Ibra and Giroud starting in the same formation again pls!!

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Btw, reading that Pioli could start Krunic again tomorrow...

If he does that I'm seriously going to start questioning his f@cking eye sight let alone his judgment.

He was waxing lyrical about him in the press conference. Either he's hyping him up because we want to sell or he's blind. The guy has no business starting games for us and when I think about the potentially precarious situation we have in the AM position with him being the direct alternative to Diaz, I get stomach pains...


Some sources have Krunic starting, some have Bennacer. I think Krunic will start only and if only Bennacer is still not fully fit, which didn't look like it against Sampdoria as he was vivid and full of energy.

As for Pioli spending good words on Krunic, he was answering a question by some journalist, who asked him "Krunic played well against Sampdoria, can he be the extra man Milan need this season?", which is an insanely stupid question to ask and I really want to pummel the idiot who asked it. Of course Pioli would respond saying Krunic is a reliable player yada yada. What else was he supposed to say? Talk smack about his own players?
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Juve lost yesterday... Against Empoli!


Talk about an opportunity to really compete this season! And we're forfeiting because we miss 2 quality attacking mids that would make us serious Scudetto challengers...

What a bitter taste in the mouth
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Juve lost yesterday... Against Empoli!


Talk about an opportunity to really compete this season! And we're forfeiting because we miss 2 quality attacking mids that would make us serious Scudetto challengers...

What a bitter taste in the mouth


We can compete. It's all about who we sign the next few days, how does he integrate, how long Ibra stays injury free...there are lots of things that can factor during the season.
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Watched the whole match, Juve were appalling. Such a disorganised side, no ideas whatsoever. And now that they've lost Ronaldo who secured them 30 goals per season they're really going to struggle big time unless Allegri works some magic which I highly doubt.

Lazio have been impressive thus far. 9 goals in the first two games, saw the highlights vs Spezia and their combinations were fantastic. Maybe they'll turn out the big surprise this year with Sarri.

Atalanta have been completely underwhelming. 0-0 at home vs Bologna and last week they only won at the 93rd minute.
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Watched the whole match, Juve were appalling. Such a disorganised side, no ideas whatsoever. And now that they've lost Ronaldo who secured them 30 goals per season they're really going to struggle big time unless Allegri works some magic which I highly doubt.

Lazio have been impressive thus far. 9 goals in the first two games, saw the highlights vs Spezia and their combinations were fantastic. Maybe they'll turn out the big surprise this year with Sarri.

Atalanta have been completely underwhelming. 0-0 at home vs Bologna and last week they only won at the 93rd minute.


Yeah Lazio were pretty impressive. I think Sarri is a good fit, and they could outcompete Atalanta. We'll see how consistent they are though!
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Agree William, re lots of factors playing into it. But it's going to be very difficult this year. The issue with Serie A is that the bottom half are walkovers while the top half is very competitive. So you have to be inch perfect against the smaller sides while being able to win 60% of the big match ups imo.

And imo this squad is 2 quality players away from being able to compete with Inter, but sadly we're not going to make these moves happen

Top 4 is going to be a big fight imo

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Watched the whole match, Juve were appalling. Such a disorganised side, no ideas whatsoever. And now that they've lost Ronaldo who secured them 30 goals per season they're really going to struggle big time unless Allegri works some magic which I highly doubt.

Lazio have been impressive thus far. 9 goals in the first two games, saw the highlights vs Spezia and their combinations were fantastic. Maybe they'll turn out the big surprise this year with Sarri.

Atalanta have been completely underwhelming. 0-0 at home vs Bologna and last week they only won at the 93rd minute.

I agree re the Roman clubs. Lazio will be ups and downs imo. They don't have it in them to go the entire stretch as they have a pretty thin squad. If we had any sort of budget, this would have been the year to push for Milenkovic-Savic. He'd be a perfect Hakan replacement imo. But sadly we're acting like a mid-table club on the transfer market and would neven even attempt to go for a big player, which is disheartening.

Roma with Mourinho we'll have to see how they fair. But they will be better than they were last season for sure.

I think we'll start to see Atalanta slowly fade away. Gasperini has squeezed all he can out of that squad and with losing players each window, the house of cards won't hold up for much longer.


Allegri playing Danilo as a regista and McKennie as an AM with no recognisable CF in the squad is laughable, and reminded me of when he used to play Urby as an AM (PTSD episode incoming). He could really be exposed for the fraud he is this season
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Re Milinikovic-Savic: the guy is a CM, I don't see how he could have been Hakan's replacement. And he has a market value of 70M and a contract expiring in 2024. I have better chances of dating Margot Robbie than us signing him anytime soon.
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Re Milinikovic-Savic: the guy is a CM, I don't see how he could have been Hakan's replacement. And he has a market value of 70M and a contract expiring in 2024. I have better chances of dating Margot Robbie than us signing him anytime soon.

I don't see any big teams coming in for him so that market value is very questionable

And he can play a more advanced position, he just doesn't do it at Lazio because of Luis Alberto

Anyway, it's moot as we'd never even attempt to go for a big signing. We're struggling to raise offers above 10m at this point (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

So you're right the chances would be the same as you landing Morgot (we're on a first name basis). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But I mentioned him because I was trying to make a point. That even after getting CL, we're still acting like a bunch of beggars and annoying other clubs. It just p!sses me off so much, and to see Maldini having to do it makes it even worse for me because he should be given complete trust by this management

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Official line-up same as last week. Krunic again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Good but Leao should f*ck off! I can't stand this guy. From the first touch tonight I knew he was gonna get on my nerves.
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Good but Leao should f*ck off! I can't stand this guy. From the first touch tonight I knew he was gonna get on my nerves.


He should have directly finished that. The defending was good.
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It's funny to watch Milan for free on youtube...
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Oh no..Mike should be getting to that.
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*** goal lol, what the hell is this match.
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Excellent. Giroud.

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3 goals in 24 minutes. Would have never guessed...
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Good first half. I think 4-1 is a bit excessive (free kick goal, lucky Brahim bounce, asinine hands of Strootman), but nevertheless we pushed and created, so I think it's deserved.

We need to keep the brainfart moments in defence to a bare minimum. Their goal was unforgivable.

PS: I love Tonali.
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Too easy

Although we're a bit too wide open at the back imo. That goal from Cagliari happened because Tomori was running around in midfield and left the back exposed.

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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 29 2021, 08:36 PM) *
Good first half. I think 4-1 is a bit excessive (free kick goal, lucky Brahim bounce, asinine hands of Strootman), but nevertheless we pushed and created, so I think it's deserved.

We need to keep the brainfart moments in defence to a bare minimum. Their goal was unforgivable.

PS: I love Tonali.

Yes agreed re the goal we conceded. It was the same sh!t last week against Samp. Everyone all over the place. It's almost too frenetic at certain points. We just need to calm down a bit on and off the ball, especially in dangerous areas
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What I have noticed though is that although the intensity is a bit too all over the place at times rather than concentrated, this is probably the fittest the team's looked all year. Last season it was like we never were really able to get to peek physical shape, and all the games kept rolling in non stop. Then the injuries kept happening and we limped through the season.

Now, after a proper pre-season we look much fitter
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 29 2021, 08:37 PM) *
Too easy

Although we're a bit too wide open at the back imo. That goal from Cagliari happened because Tomori was running around in midfield and left the back exposed.


Yes, we're too wide open at the back. Every time Cagliari attack I feel like they might score.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 29 2021, 10:43 PM) *
Yes, we're too wide open at the back. Every time Cagliari attack I feel like they might score.


True, I hope we find the right balance. Let's not forget our starting mids, Bennacer and Kessie are not playing. They are really responsible for organizing the team.
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Yes, we're too wide open at the back. Every time Cagliari attack I feel like they might score.

Playing both Krunic and Tonali in front of defence is part of the reason there imo. Both want to move the ball forward and it's leaving the defence a bit exposed. The other part has to do with the fact that we're playing like a bunch of excited kids.

We need to control these types of games better imo. We saw it last week against Samp, we're seeing it again today. Very rushed, f@ckin about with the ball in dangerous areas and generally taking too many unnecessary risks.

Also, I know you got on Leao's case earlier but he's been good imo.

Same goes with Alexis. Love this guy. If only he can start scoring and assisting regularly he's be a quality player
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Aug 29 2021, 10:36 PM) *
Good first half. I think 4-1 is a bit excessive (free kick goal, lucky Brahim bounce, asinine hands of Strootman), but nevertheless we pushed and created, so I think it's deserved.

We need to keep the brainfart moments in defence to a bare minimum. Their goal was unforgivable.

PS: I love Tonali.


Tonali is really something isn't he. Something seemed to have clicked in his brain. Last year, I think he was too drained mentally, he spoke about it in one interview. It was hard for him in a new team and also the loan situation and not knowing if it will be resolved.
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QUOTE (William405 @ Aug 29 2021, 08:46 PM) *
True, I hope we find the right balance. Let's not forget our starting mids, Bennacer and Kessie are not playing. They are really responsible for organizing the team.

This

We miss the generals in front of the defence.

Tonali has been top notch and I can't complain about Krunic either as he hasn't done anything wrong. But both are generally CMs who like to advance the ball. And it is leaving us a bit exposed for sure
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 29 2021, 10:47 PM) *
Playing both Krunic and Tonali in front of defence is part of the reason there imo. Both want to move the ball forward and it's leaving the defence a bit exposed. The other part has to do with the fact that we're playing like a bunch of excited kids.

We need to control these types of games better imo. We saw it last week against Samp, we're seeing it again today. Very rushed, f@ckin about with the ball in dangerous areas and generally taking too many unnecessary risks.

Also, I know you got on Leao's case earlier but he's been good imo.

Same goes with Alexis. Love this guy. If only he can start scoring and assisting regularly he's be a quality player


The work-rate of Alexis is second to none.

I'm a bit puzzled about the defence too, last year it was our strongest asset. Like you said it has to do with the Tonali-Krunic duo. Bakayoko will solve that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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QUOTE (William405 @ Aug 29 2021, 08:47 PM) *
Tonali is really something isn't he. Something seemed to have clicked in his brain. Last year, I think he was too drained mentally, he spoke about it in one interview. It was hard for him in a new team and also the loan situation and not knowing if it will be resolved.

Agreed. Great first 2 games. I want to see more from him, but when Kessie and Benna are back they have to start ahead of him.

Makes me wish we can change to a 3-man midfield tbh, even though I favour the 4-2-3-1. It's just a shame someone will have to miss out. Bakayoko as well who was top notch when he was with us
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 29 2021, 10:51 PM) *
Agreed. Great first 2 games. I want to see more from him, but when Kessie and Benna are back they have to start ahead of him.

Makes me wish we can change to a 3-man midfield tbh, even though I favour the 4-2-3-1. It's just a shame someone will have to miss out. Bakayoko as well who was top notch when he was with us


That's depth. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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QUOTE (William405 @ Aug 29 2021, 11:00 PM) *
It's funny to watch Milan for free on youtube...


It is isn't it, goes to show TV rights are not even in demand, good for us though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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