[d'Arc.LP]

Since the rumors have already started, I opened the thread so we can post and comment the latest of them.

So, we already know that in a few weeks the clubs ownership will officially go to the Chinese and as the deal said, they have to invest 300m in the next 3 years. Considering that they invested 15m already during the Summer Window for Lapadula and Gomez, who do you think we can transfer for 85m in order to create a Champions Leauge competitor ?

[Jack Sparrow]

So the 85 MM might not be for the club right? How much of it is money that is being paid to Finninvest for the club?

Dream Mode On: Veratti + Thiago Silvo + Isco.

Dream Mode Off: Milan Badelj + Isco (on loan) OR John Obi Mikel

[d'Arc.LP]

So the 85 MM might not be for the club right? How much of it is money that is being paid to Finninvest for the club?

Dream Mode On: Veratti + Thiago Silvo + Isco.

Dream Mode Off: Milan Badelj + Isco (on loan) OR John Obi Mikel

I think - and I might be wrong, that those 300m are apart from the ones the club is recieving and also apart from the ones that will go to paying debts.

I think that Silva is coming eitherway, with us dreaming or not.

[Fillipo Simone]

Indeed. And I love the idea of him and Romagnoli leading the defense.

[han2503]

Since the rumors have already started, I opened the thread so we can post and comment the latest of them.

So, we already know that in a few weeks the clubs ownership will officially go to the Chinese and as the deal said, they have to invest 300m in the next 3 years. Considering that they invested 15m already during the Summer Window for Lapadula and Gomez, who do you think we can transfer for 85m in order to create a Champions Leauge competitor ?

I think you're incorrect there about the money

The 15m the Chinese investors paid in the summer didn't go into the transfer market but to Fininvest as the first down payment on the sale, same goes for the 85m that were paid recently. In total they added up to 100m which was used as the first down payment but also as the guarantee the Chinese paid (should anyone back out before the closing that 100m is given to the other party)

The 300m I've read is part of the investment the new owners will have to put into the club, and not all of it will be going into the transfer marker. But honestly, I don't believe there's any sort of binding contract on that. it's more of an act of goodwill from the Chinese' part to Silvio. It's like I'm selling a house to you and on the sale I stipulate that you have to renovate each bedroom. Once the house is yours you can really just do what you please with it. It's not like I'll take back the house if you go back on that word

As for the winter, I think they'll make a couple of signings, but I'm not getting ahead of myself

Dream mode on: Cesc, Isco/Kovacic, Matuidi

Dream mode off: Badelj

Oh, and thanks for opening the thread d'Arc, I'll pin this and unpin the summer thread

[han2503]

Indeed. And I love the idea of him and Romagnoli leading the defense.

Welcome back Fillipo, you've been gone for a bit haven't you?

[d'Arc.LP]

I think you're incorrect there about the money

The 15m the Chinese investors paid in the summer didn't go into the transfer market but to Fininvest as the first down payment on the sale, same goes for the 85m that were paid recently. In total they added up to 100m which was used as the first down payment but also as the guarantee the Chinese paid (should anyone back out before the closing that 100m is given to the other party)

The 300m I've read is part of the investment the new owners will have to put into the club, and not all of it will be going into the transfer marker. But honestly, I don't believe there's any sort of binding contract on that. it's more of an act of goodwill from the Chinese' part to Silvio. It's like I'm selling a house to you and on the sale I stipulate that you have to renovate each bedroom. Once the house is yours you can really just do what you please with it. It's not like I'll take back the house if you go back on that word

As for the winter, I think they'll make a couple of signings, but I'm not getting ahead of myself

Dream mode on: Cesc, Isco/Kovacic, Matuidi

Dream mode off: Badelj

Oh, and thanks for opening the thread d'Arc, I'll pin this and unpin the summer thread

Thank you about the correction. With this new information coming to light, I dont think we should switch our dream mode to on.

You are welcome, I am sorry I did so without asking but I thought you just didnt notice.

“Gold from China, Milan after Isco." #Corriere dello Sport

Isco always targeted of Milan and Juventus, he does not have much space at Real Madrid and soon the two clubs will make their move. According to station "Mega Tv", Real Madrid wants 40-45milion euro to sell the player.

Isco's father-agent: "Milan and Juventus? I can assure you that we will not consider any offer until next summer."

La Gazzetta dello Sport:
"Milan and Chinese, the final list of investors will be revealed on late october. 4 partners are already known. Closing of the deal before the derby on November 20."

China Construction Bank, Ping An Insurance, Baoshang Bank, China Huarong and TCL Corporation are the possible investors. #IlSole24Ore

The list of investors will be presented to Fininvest between 20 and 25 October. There are 5-6 groups. #CorSera

Mirabelli is looking for reinforcements for the midfield ahead of the January market. The objectives are Badelj and Paredes. #LaStampa


Lucas Lima's agent: "There are several clubs interested: PSG and Valencia have also followed him. He would be Milan's Borja Valero. A quality midfielder to increase the technical rate and build the game. The Chinese like Brazilian players. There are many of our talents playing in China."



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[maldini03]

If we aren't dreaming I would say that either Badelj or Paredes wouldn't be terrible moves. Both are the type of players we need on the team, holding midfielders who can distribute the ball. I'd prefer Paredes but either would be welcome additions. I hope he is also looking at defenders, we need someone to pair with Romag to give this team some consistency.

I would also say that if we aren't really making a push to go anywhere this year come December we should look to move on and make some space. The way I see it, if we aren't going to make a real jump in quality with the players then we should continue to bring the young guys along. Bringing in one of Paredes or Badelj wont push the needle and make us contenders if we aren't contenders already. Fabregas, Isco, and some other names being brandied about sound great but they are more summer moves, when we have some real financial muscle and a clean sheet to make a push into Europe.

[d'Arc.LP]

Milan's budget for January's transfer market will be €100m. #LaStampa

CorSport - Milan, here is the list of all potential Chinese investors:
- "TCL Corporation, the electronic giant charges a $16 billion turnover."
- "China Construction Bank (173 billion dollars of capitalism)."
- "Ping An Insurance (60 billion dollars invoiced) and Baoshan Bank, Mongolia's banking institution."
- China Merchant Bank (confirmed), strong Chinese bank of Guangdong, circulation 48 billion and assets of 843 billion.
This could be expected to be the big list of Sino Europe, all designed to enter the Chinese state, a project that seems too ambitious.

Milan are interested in Monaco's 17 year old winger Kylian Mbappé according to L'Equipe.

This post has been edited by d'Arc.LP: Oct 14 2016, 08:54 AM

[Fillipo Simone]

Welcome back Fillipo, you've been gone for a bit haven't you?

Thanks. Yes, I had to finish some things regarding my phd and at the University. I took a few weeks off and only lost out on the Sassuolo game. But now I'm fully back (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

But seriously, Badelj and Paredes are the kinds of players we should avoid. I cannot see a thing Badelj would add up to our midfield. We must aim higher and sign someone like Isco or Kovačić at least.

[kurtsimonw]

So the 85 MM might not be for the club right? How much of it is money that is being paid to Finninvest for the club?

Dream Mode On: Veratti + Thiago Silvo + Isco.

Dream Mode Off: Milan Badelj + Isco (on loan) OR John Obi Mikel

Mikel would be a little bit of a worry for me. I think he's at the point where he would be a downgrade for our bench.

[maldini03]

I actually think Badelj would be an upgrade as a passer over most everyone in our midfield, that being said bringing him in wouldn't make us better to the degree we have to be to compete for anything. He would make us better but not to the degree necessary to get on that Juve level.

[d'Arc.LP]

Fassone and Mirabelli have arrived in London and will attend #ChelseaLeicester.
[Sky]

Lazio are interested in Lapadula for January according to CorSport.

[Fillipo Simone]

Perhaps Badelj is a slight upgrade, but he's still far from what we need. Fabregas is miles better.

[han2503]

Milan's budget for January's transfer market will be €100m. #LaStampa

CorSport - Milan, here is the list of all potential Chinese investors:
- "TCL Corporation, the electronic giant charges a $16 billion turnover."
- "China Construction Bank (173 billion dollars of capitalism)."
- "Ping An Insurance (60 billion dollars invoiced) and Baoshan Bank, Mongolia's banking institution."
- China Merchant Bank (confirmed), strong Chinese bank of Guangdong, circulation 48 billion and assets of 843 billion.
This could be expected to be the big list of Sino Europe, all designed to enter the Chinese state, a project that seems too ambitious.

Milan are interested in Monaco's 17 year old winger Kylian Mbappé according to L'Equipe.

All interesting names, I read somewhere that the combined assets of the corporations mentioned in the consortium is in the trillions, yes, with a T

That being said, what worries me is that these giant corporations wouldn't be sugar daddies for us, at least not in the way the Sheikhs are for City and PSG, so we'll have to see if there will really be an influx of cash or not

Thanks. Yes, I had to finish some things regarding my phd and at the University. I took a few weeks off and only lost out on the Sassuolo game. But now I'm fully back (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Welcome back! Should we start calling you Dr. now? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I actually think Badelj would be an upgrade as a passer over most everyone in our midfield, that being said bringing him in wouldn't make us better to the degree we have to be to compete for anything. He would make us better but not to the degree necessary to get on that Juve level.

Perhaps Badelj is a slight upgrade, but he's still far from what we need. Fabregas is miles better.

Badelj would be like Monto was a few years ago. He was an obvious upgrade over what we had at the time, but not good enough to really influence the quality of the team.

If we're not going to sign quality players than I'd rather give the kids a chance. No use continuing to make the same mistakes as were done under Galliani and continuing to load up the squad with more quantity but very little quality

[Fillipo Simone]

Welcome back! Should we start calling you Dr. now? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Very soon hopefully (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Badelj would be like Monto was a few years ago. He was an obvious upgrade over what we had at the time, but not good enough to really influence the quality of the team.

If we're not going to sign quality players than I'd rather give the kids a chance. No use continuing to make the same mistakes as were done under Galliani and continuing to load up the squad with more quantity but very little quality

Agreed. Even though I never managed to see Monto as an obvious upgrade. He came in when Milan lost Seedorf, van Bommel and Gattuso. It was a downgrade, because we all expected him to excel whereas he didn't even manage to reach the level of play a 30-something Seedorf did in his last season with us.

[han2503]

Very soon hopefully (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Agreed. Even though I never managed to see Monto as an obvious upgrade. He came in when Milan lost Seedorf, van Bommel and Gattuso. It was a downgrade, because we all expected him to excel whereas he didn't even manage to reach the level of play a 30-something Seedorf did in his last season with us.

Sure, but once we lost those players and it had already become apparent that we weren't going to sign a top quality midfielder, Monto was truly an upgrade for us considering the way our midfield was threadbare of quality. And let's not forget that Monto actually had a really good first season with us.

He struggled in his second one and then he kept getting serious injuries and it's been downhill since then.

[Rossoneri7]

All interesting names, I read somewhere that the combined assets of the corporations mentioned in the consortium is in the trillions, yes, with a T

That being said, what worries me is that these giant corporations wouldn't be sugar daddies for us, at least not in the way the Sheikhs are for City and PSG, so we'll have to see if there will really be an influx of cash or not

350M is guaranteed for three years. 100M of which this winter.

That is coming from 20M transfer budgets .. Surely sounds like an influx of cash to me.

What of the years after the three years have passed, you say? China bought into Milan to promote for a 'future' WC in China. Just as Qatar did with PSG and sponsoring Barca. The Chinese have a vision for Milan, and starting off with 350M spread over three years isn't too shabby, especially with the inflated player price tags going around.

Trillions are not going to be poured into Milan; but rest assured it will be well maintained to win! The Chinese have ample economies of scale and they could multiply merchandizing and TV income for the club, let alone ensure a regular CL income and all that comes with it. I doubt they will throw/funnel in money the way Silvio did, as he was the only decision maker; while now the Chairman of Sino-Europe will be negotiating with X amount of owners before transfer budgets/decisions/etc are passed down to Fassone. They are business men and they have an intention. Time to drop the guard han (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) fun times ahead

[han2503]

350M is guaranteed for three years. 100M of which this winter.

That is coming from 20M transfer budgets .. Surely sounds like an influx of cash to me.

What of the years after the three years have passed, you say? China bought into Milan to promote for a 'future' WC in China. Just as Qatar did with PSG and sponsoring Barca. The Chinese have a vision for Milan, and starting off with 350M spread over three years isn't too shabby, especially with the inflated player price tags going around.

Trillions are not going to be poured into Milan; but rest assured it will be well maintained to win! The Chinese have ample economies of scale and they could multiply merchandizing and TV income for the club, let alone ensure a regular CL income and all that comes with it. I doubt they will throw/funnel in money the way Silvio did, as he was the only decision maker; while now the Chairman of Sino-Europe will be negotiating with X amount of owners before transfer budgets/decisions/etc are passed down to Fassone. They are business men and they have an intention. Time to drop the guard han (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) fun times ahead

From your mouth to God's ears (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I guess I was almost completely sold into it, but Paolo's rejection sort of put a bit of a wrench in it for me. Not completely derailing my hopes but certainly dampening them a bit

[d'Arc.LP]

According to English media, Milan are ready to offer €25m for Erik Lamela.

Corriere della Sera: Fassone is considering offering Franco Baresi a bigger role at Milan.


Milan and Inter are interested in Lindelof. Benfica won't let the player for less than €30m (his clause). #Rai

Chelsea are ready to offer €55m for Romagnoli according to GdS.


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[d'Arc.LP]

Fabrizio Romano: Milan and Inter scouts were attending Club Brugge-Porto to observe Andrè Silva and Danilo Pereira from Porto and Denswil from Club Brugge.

[Jack Sparrow]

We're talking a lot about people coming in. But who do you reckon are leaving? I feel Luiz Adriano will definitely be leaving. Probably Pasalic as well. This is a bit concerning because an injury to either Bacca or Lapadula puts us in a difficult position.

Also not sure if Gabriel will be interested in continuing to be No. 2 keeper.

Rumours link us to Lamela - but unless he genuinely wants to leave England, there is no chance he'll come to Milan.

Also rumours linking us to Thiago Silva. I'd be over the moon if he joined but we have to consider that his current salary at PSG is supposedly 13 million Euros. I don't see us going that far for a player who will be signing his last professional European contract.

[Jack Sparrow]

Just one more thing. I loved this headline in GdS -

Milan: The surprise
Romagnoli and the babies, it’s a low-cost second place
Young players from the academy, free agents and Italians: Montella’s squad doesn’t cost more than €45m

But seriously this is a huge statement. And funny how Romagnoli is the senior here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[William405]

We're talking a lot about people coming in. But who do you reckon are leaving? I feel Luiz Adriano will definitely be leaving. Probably Pasalic as well. This is a bit concerning because an injury to either Bacca or Lapadula puts us in a difficult position.

Also not sure if Gabriel will be interested in continuing to be No. 2 keeper.

Rumours link us to Lamela - but unless he genuinely wants to leave England, there is no chance he'll come to Milan.

Also rumours linking us to Thiago Silva. I'd be over the moon if he joined but we have to consider that his current salary at PSG is supposedly 13 million Euros. I don't see us going that far for a player who will be signing his last professional European contract.

Yeah, Luiz Adriano need to leave for his benefit. I don't think it's a problem, we still have Niang on that position too!

Why wouldn't Gabriel be happy as a No. 2 keeper? It's not like he is a phenomenon. If anything, Milan should be the ones worried about it. I'd loan him out again, and get an experienced goalkeeper.

Thiago Silva would be nice. His salary is insane. Why doesn't PSG want to renew with him? Could it be the salary? If so he'll have to take a wage-cut anyway, so we don't really have to "match" the 13 million per say.

[William405]

Just one more thing. I loved this headline in GdS -



But seriously this is a huge statement. And funny how Romagnoli is the senior here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Hahahahah, yeah it's nice.

It was evident for me that Romagnoli was going to be a hit. Donnaruma was quite the surprise, but I think it was Berlusconi who praised him first?!

It's nice to see all these youngsters, and we shouldn't sell them!

[d'Arc.LP]

From England, "Sun Sport": Chelsea are ready to offer about €60m for Romagnoli.

Now this is tempting.

[Jack Sparrow]

No. Not yet. I'll rather sell him for something like 120 MM about 5 or 6 years later. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It's hard to find replacements that good. Plus it would destroy our current season. Imagine having Zapata replace Romagnoli in the centre.

[milanbuf88]

No. Not yet. I'll rather sell him for something like 120 MM about 5 or 6 years later. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It's hard to find replacements that good. Plus it would destroy our current season. Imagine having Zapata replace Romagnoli in the centre.

I wouldn't sell Romagnoli for any price at this time. Donnaruma is off limits as well. If we are going to be getting a lot of money for the transfer market then we have no need to sell. Holding on to these players is a mark of intent that we need to show Europe that we are coming back.

[William405]

Yes, if anything, we should be buying players..not selling.

[Forza Milan!]

We are not going to get an unlimited transfer budget, player prices are what they are, and we have a lot of gaps in our team. If there is a very good offer for a player (any player) we should be considering it. But I would not sell unless the offer is really good.

[milanbuf88]

We are not going to get an unlimited transfer budget, player prices are what they are, and we have a lot of gaps in our team. If there is a very good offer for a player (any player) we should be considering it. But I would not sell unless the offer is really good.

The gaps aren't significant enough to justify selling incredibly promising young players. Personally I think one of our biggest challenges at the moment is convincing top of the line players that Milan is a worthy potential destination. Selling Romagnoli or Donnaruma would only convince players that we aren't to be taken seriously. Sure, any mid level player on the team should be sold if the price is right but talismans are untouchable.

[d'Arc.LP]

Calciomercato says Montella likes Lorenzo Pellegrini of Sassuolo, but Roma have a re-buy option for €10m.

[William405]

We are not going to get an unlimited transfer budget, player prices are what they are, and we have a lot of gaps in our team. If there is a very good offer for a player (any player) we should be considering it. But I would not sell unless the offer is really good.

No, no, no. I don't agree at all. I'd rather we kept our formation the way it is, and watch our players develop than to do this. All of our promising youngsters should be off the market. They represent the future of Milan in my opinion. Specially, that you're talking about players that have passed through our youth system, and are really proving their worth!

Who are we going to get to fill our gaps anyway? I don't think we'll do a deal like Bacca, and we simply can't attract the top players because we are not in the champions leauge anymore. So, if we're going to get someone, it's probably going to be players a la Fabregas or Thiago that are either at the end of their contracts or are kept on the bench. These kind of transfers usually won't take that much money power to get them done.

Also, what's the point of the sale to the Chinese? And why is everyone happy about it if we're going to sell our star youngster for 60 million lol? Berlusconi spent a huge amount last year without even being able to get big cash out of a player. If they're going to sell such players, then I would have prefered Berlusconi to stay. First, for sentimental and historical reasons, (which are very important by the way) and second for financial ones.

So, yeah just keep the youngsters. Try to sign 1-2 veterans for a good deal (CM and a CB), and aim for that champions league spot.

[Forza Milan!]

No, no, no. I don't agree at all. I'd rather we kept our formation the way it is, and watch our players develop than to do this. All of our promising youngsters should be off the market. They represent the future of Milan in my opinion. Specially, that you're talking about players that have passed through our youth system, and are really proving their worth!

Who are we going to get to fill our gaps anyway? I don't think we'll do a deal like Bacca, and we simply can't attract the top players because we are not in the champions leauge anymore. So, if we're going to get someone, it's probably going to be players a la Fabregas or Thiago that are either at the end of their contracts or are kept on the bench. These kind of transfers usually won't take that much money power to get them done.

Also, what's the point of the sale to the Chinese? And why is everyone happy about it if we're going to sell our star youngster for 60 million lol? Berlusconi spent a huge amount last year without even being able to get big cash out of a player. If they're going to sell such players, then I would have prefered Berlusconi to stay. First, for sentimental and historical reasons, (which are very important by the way) and second for financial ones.

So, yeah just keep the youngsters. Try to sign 1-2 veterans for a good deal (CM and a CB), and aim for that champions league spot.

The point of the sale is that we get some money and hopefully a competent management team. And while there is no guarantee that this will actually happen, the path we have been on is far from ideal. Not to mention the fact that Berlu is getting old, and his kids are unlikely to invest anything at all if they take over.

In any case, I agree with you that we should try to hold on to key players, particularly the younger ones. However, if we get a high enough offer, I think it should be taken into consideration. (FWIW, I would not jump at €60m for Romagnoli, but a higher offer maybe.)

[kurtsimonw]

According to English media, Milan are ready to offer €25m for Erik Lamela.

I imagine it would be laughed off. He's started 9 of 12 games and appeared in all 12. They aren't going to take a loss on an important first XI player. If we offered €40m, they would maybe consider it.

[d'Arc.LP]

Arsenal are ready to offer €35m for M'Baye Niang, but Milan will block any move as they are determined to keep the player. #CalcioMercatoWeb

Give us 45m and I would be ready to say goodby to him.

Milan have expressed interest in Lazio defender Stefan de Vrij. #Repubblica

Milan scouts will attend Europa League game Olympiakos-FC Astana this evening. #MN

CorSport: Milan are interested in Fabregas, but Chelsea want Romagnoli in a swap deal. Fassone remains very cold about this idea.

Donnarumma is expected to sign a contract until 2022 with a €3m/year salary. Fassone will meet Raiola after the closing. #TuttoSport

[d'Arc.LP]

Fabrizio Romano: Romagnoli is unsellable to Milan. Chelsea are interested, but the Milan defender is untouchable.

[d'Arc.LP]

Milan and Napoli are interested in Sporting CP, 22 year old defender Ruben Semedo according to A Bola.

Fabrizio Romano: Milan remain interested in Lucas Lima. Santos want €20m but the player's entourage are attempting to get them to sell for €15m. Similarly to Gabriel, his transfer fee will be equally divided between Santos, the player's family and Doyen Sports.

[d'Arc.LP]

GdS: Pavoletti or Verrati. It's an italian Milan. The mister is waiting for new players in january.

[Jack Sparrow]

GdS: Pavoletti or Verrati. It's an italian Milan. The mister is waiting for new players in january.

Pavoletti and we let Adriano go. Okay. But Verrati would just cut space for Locatelli right? Verrati is young and he won't be cheap.

[Fillipo Simone]

And would be what we need, no?

[Jack Sparrow]

Yeah. Not really. I'm not sure we need all that many players actually if Mati Fernandez, Sosa and Bertolacci are fit. Especially for January. However we're light on the wings...

[Fillipo Simone]

Yeah. Not really. I'm not sure we need all that many players actually if Mati Fernandez, Sosa and Bertolacci are fit. Especially for January. However we're light on the wings...

Really? As far as I'm concerned Bertolacci is a big shot (already failed one season), Mati is dubious whereas Sosa struggles to find himself a position in the team.

Man, if we wanna rebuild, if we wanna winning and playing well, we need to look beyond those three.

[han2503]

Verratti would be a dream, but it's never going to happen

[Jack Sparrow]

Really? As far as I'm concerned Bertolacci is a big shot (already failed one season), Mati is dubious whereas Sosa struggles to find himself a position in the team.

Man, if we wanna rebuild, if we wanna winning and playing well, we need to look beyond those three.

And I see your point. So the question is what options are there in January, compared to the summer.

I'm pretty sure that as much as it hurts, we'll find it difficult to carry on this early momentum till the end of the season. We're going to struggle in patches and if we can hit the winter 5 points off the top place then it's great. Remember the goal this season is to finish in Europe, and we should be careful about who we purchase. Next summer, Milan can look to make the big buys and thus give them a whole pre-season to settle into the team.

[maldini03]

I agree with Jack here, unless we can get rid of some of the dead wood in January than I doubt we will be looking to make big splashes. If we are in the hunt in January, I would say just make some background moves and let this team get a season of consistency under its belt. However, I don't think we will still be in such a good position come January. Success takes consistency and growing pains and getting them out this year would leave us with a bigger budget next summer and the ability to build a powerful competitive unit.

I'm of the mindset that when it comes down to it, teams with players who can change the flow of a game will earn their money. We have few game changers and a shallow bench and I think that will show over time. That being said, Verratti is a dream, Pavoletti at best is a sub. I think we need to look into a defender and an upgrade to Suso's position. After that, we are looking at needing a new midfielder or two and maybe another seconda punta who can play multiple forward positions.

[d'Arc.LP]

Transfer confusion at Milan
By Football Italia staff

It’s reported there is transfer confusion at Milan, as Adriano Galliani isn’t working with Massimiliano Mirabelli.

The Rossoneri are in the midst of a takeover, with Sino-Europe Sports looking to take control of the club from Silvio Berlusconi’s Fininvest.

If and when the deal goes through, Mirabelli will be installed as the sporting director, and will therefore be responsible for recruitment.

However, he cannot know what kind of funds will be available, and according to calciomercato.com he doesn’t have a direct link with Coach Vincenzo Montella.

Galliani, therefore, is proceeding as normal and has been asked by Montella to get a winger and another midfielder.

The ownership situation means that talks have not been opened over any deals yet though, leaving the Diavolo in an awkward position for January.

[Rossoneri7]

Nah, the media just want something to chew on.

The winter transfer business is currently with Galliani, when the sale of Milan is perfected that shall be handed over the same day to Mirabelli; hence there is no nonsense but only noise (noise as what the media are stirring, which sells inevitably (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )

Plus, the sale is to happen next month while the winter transfer window will be open after that date. Hence wouldn't Mirabelli be surprised that he is already in contact with players the Chinese have earmarked.

[X-Offender]

The sale is scheduled to be finalised in November. We'll see...

[Rossoneri7]

Speaking of rumors, 7 names which comprise basically of Milan bench players .. the Milan new management want them gone. Milan are not disclosing whom they are, but my bed is the fodder will go this winter.

[Jack Sparrow]

Speaking of rumors, 7 names which comprise basically of Milan bench players .. the Milan new management want them gone. Milan are not disclosing whom they are, but my bed is the fodder will go this winter.

I'll take a shot at it:

1. Luiz Adriano
2. Keisuke Honda
3. Andrea Poli
4. R. Ely
5. L. Vangioni
6. M. Pasalic
7. J.Sosa (?)

The last one is a long shot, since we just got him in.

But yeah, I don't think these names have a future in the club. They'll probably be gone in the winter or the summer. I don't think a mass exodus will do us good. It will leave us with a very tiny squad.

[kurtsimonw]

I'll take a shot at it:

1. Luiz Adriano
2. Keisuke Honda
3. Andrea Poli
4. R. Ely
5. L. Vangioni
6. M. Pasalic
7. J.Sosa (?)

The last one is a long shot, since we just got him in.

But yeah, I don't think these names have a future in the club. They'll probably be gone in the winter or the summer. I don't think a mass exodus will do us good. It will leave us with a very tiny squad.

1. Honda
2. Honda
3. Honda
4. Honda
5. Honda
6. Honda
7. Honda

He's got the awfulness of 7 players.

[d'Arc.LP]

Fassone will fly to China tomorrow or more likely on Monday, where he will stay for a week and will meet Han Li, Li Yonghong and the sponsors. An objective of the Chinese is to further reduce the number of investors (currently 7-8), in order to increase the shares of new owners. The Chinese aim to close the deal between 18-22 November. But the closing will likely arrive at the end of November, or in the first days of December. Meanwhile Mirabelli is continuing to make contacts with other clubs. Then there will be a meeting with Montella to plan the January market. #GdS

#CorSport: Milan want Karim Bellarabi in January.

[d'Arc.LP]

Milan are thinking about another Japanese player (as Honda is expected to leave), and are considering Shinji Okazaki of Leicester. #PremiumSport

[han2503]

Galliani: 'Milan CEO or nothing'

Milan CEO Adriano Galliani warned he is “not prepared to remain” at the club in any other role after the Chinese takeover.

The new owners are expected to complete the closing by the end of November and have already appointed directors for the future infrastructure.

“I am not prepared to remain at Milan with any role that is not CEO. I was not asked by anyone, but after 30 years I would not accept a different role to the one I have already filled,” Galliani told Mediaset Premium.

“I am not prepared to remain in the Board of Directors either. There has to be at least some respect for a career path.”

This afternoon Milan host Pescara at San Siro and Massimo Oddo returns to face his former club for the first time as a Coach.

“He wanted to be a director originally, then chose to be a Coach. He’s one of the immortals, in the Milan Hall of Fame.”

There was criticism of the Rossoneri after a 3-0 midweek defeat to Genoa, as the team showed a lack of strength in depth.

“Milan have an entire midfield missing due to injury, while for various reasons we are without three of the five full-backs. In attack M’Baye Niang had a fever until a few hours ago.

“The squad is good both in terms of quality and quantity.”

Buh-bye!

And the last line is why he won't be missed

We might have quantity but we certainly don't have quality

[Rossoneri7]

Think it is healthy for both Milan and Galliani to part ways, especially specific to Milan. History will always be on his side as he was instrumental in making Milan the brand me and you know or knew.

Otherwise I couldn't care less to what happens to him in terms of his future and I am anxious to see what the new incoming management has in store for us (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

Buh-bye!

And the last line is why he won't be missed

We might have quantity but we certainly don't have quality

Where does the team sit on the table han? Let's be fair. Currently galliani is the go-to guy for this club and as such he has to comment such comments. Fiat's ceo talks about his cars as if they were Mercedes Benz or Ferrari but we all know it isn't. Same concept applies here.

Soon we will have a new ceo, and you expect him to comment on the team 'while in season' stating the team lacks quality or quantity? Or that this player is bad and whatnot?

A person in the arena will have different pressures and tactics than a spectator that is in constant 'tranquilized obviousness'.

[X-Offender]

Can't wait for him to get lost for good.

[Forza Milan!]

Galliani had his days, and as a Milan fan I truly appreciate what he has done for the team. Having said that, his last years have been a complete disaster, and it is time for him to leave (don't even understand his latest statements, does he really expect to keep running the club?). And, yes, we are third, but the problems in the squad are quite clear, and that's mostly his responsibility.

[han2503]

Where does the team sit on the table han? Let's be fair. Currently galliani is the go-to guy for this club and as such he has to comment such comments. Fiat's ceo talks about his cars as if they were Mercedes Benz or Ferrari but we all know it isn't. Same concept applies here.

Soon we will have a new ceo, and you expect him to comment on the team 'while in season' stating the team lacks quality or quantity? Or that this player is bad and whatnot?

A person in the arena will have different pressures and tactics than a spectator that is in constant 'tranquilized obviousness'.

Well I agree that they won't tell you it's a sh!tty car but they don't try to tell you it's a Ferrari either, which Galliani has constantly tried to do over the years. Remember that "il club piu titolato al mondo" propaganda when we were already slipping down?

I think he still thinks this is the 80s and people are still gullible and believe what you tell them simply because you're the club CEO

I'm not saying that he should be slamming the players, but he should stop trying to take people for a ride when everyone can see that quality is gravely lacking in this squad and the fact that we're 3rd for right now has nothing to do with the individual quality of the players

This is him trying to toot his own horn, almost giving himself a pat on the back for a job well done in the summer. Forgetting the fact that he made an entire mess of the mercato just like he has done for the past decade or so barring a few good moves which were later reversed (Silva, Ibra)

[Forza Milan!]

We are linked to Bazoer. Any insight on the dude?

[han2503]

We are linked to Bazoer. Any insight on the dude?

He turns out great on FIFA (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[X-Offender]

Bowser?

(IMG:http://www.mariowiki.com/images/thumb/0/0a/BowzerPartyDS.png/180px-BowzerPartyDS.png)

[d'Arc.LP]

Milan are interested in 20 year old Argentine talent of River Plate, Sebastian Driussi. #TuttoSport

A Bola: Milan were one of 20+ teams attending the Champions League game between Benfica and Dynamo Kiev to scout Benfica defender Lindelöf.

Fabrizio Romano: Milan and Ajax will schedule a meeting to talk about Bazoer before the beginning of the winter transfer window.

Fabrizio Romano: Bazoer has convinced everyone at Milan, even Montella. Ajax value the player at €20M, but Milan are waiting for the closing before a move. Milan must make a decision on whether to invest this money on the midfielder in January, or wait until the summer.

Mirabelli this weekend will be in Rome to attend Roma-Bologna. He will closely observe Leandro Paredes. #TuttoSport

[Fillipo Simone]

Bazoer? Is he worth that money? Anyone seen him play?

[Rossoneri7]

Bazoer? Is he worth that money? Anyone seen him play?

I'd trust the the club did some scouting. If he will arrive then great, we need mids. If not then who would you suggest?

I would like Yaya as a personal preference.

[maldini03]

I've seen him play in a few games I watched for Ajax last year. He is a strong physical player. Not a towering player, but strong and fast, a box-to-box with decent vision/ passing abilities. His physicality, and all- around ability remind me a bit of Seedorf. Although I wouldn't really describe him as a recessed playmaker, but a good player to round out the midfield.

He's pretty young with room to grow, I would be excited about this purchase. He won't push the needle in any category of the game, but he could be a good building block.

For me, Yaya is past it. Was always a quality player but between his wages and his age, I think I would prefer a player like Bazoer. If they want to spend the money on a bigger name, I would prefer Cesc or Schweini, either one of those two would bring great quality to the midfield and the team in general.

[d'Arc.LP]

At least in FM 2017 he looks quite good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

What's the argument here again? Isn't it obvious? We need both the Yaya's and the Bazoer's. Just remember van Bommel and how useful he turned out to be. We need seasoned leaders, players who can form a backbone to this youthful green team.

I'd prefer Serie A players, but sadly other then perhaps Marchisio (wildest dreams) I don't see a single midfielder that could join us and would be sufficiently good. We have to look elsewhere and try to sing players like Toure, Schweini, etc.

[d'Arc.LP]

What's the argument here again? Isn't it obvious? We need both the Yaya's and the Bazoer's. Just remember van Bommel and how useful he turned out to be. We need seasoned leaders, players who can form a backbone to this youthful green team.

I'd prefer Serie A players, but sadly other then perhaps Marchisio (wildest dreams) I don't see a single midfielder that could join us and would be sufficiently good. We have to look elsewhere and try to sing players like Toure, Schweini, etc.

There were reports that Montella was after De Rossi.

[kurtsimonw]

I read that De Rossi told him he wouldn't be leaving Roma.

[d'Arc.LP]

That is why I wrote WAS.

[han2503]

Toure and Bastian would bring in another set of problems that we're all quite familiar with now. High wages, most likely both past their best.

I think we should be looking elsewhere at this point if we really do have the money.

Cesc is one name I'd look at. I'd still like to see us try and push for a Kovacic or heck, even Isco, who's warming the bench at Real. If we have cash, why not go for an honest to god marquee signing to really make a statement. Players who are very experienced but not past their prime is the demo we should be looking at. We should avoid repeating the mistakes of the past in order to try and right those previous said mistakes.

Also, I still think a top CB should be on the agenda. Paletta is simply not reliable. He's a good player, but generally a loose cannon. He was a lucky decision away from getting another red against Palermo and giving them a penalty last Sunday. He just simply doesn't learn. Also, when he or Alessio are out we're in trouble as Gomez and Zapata are our only other options which is far from comforting

[Fillipo Simone]

I don't get you Han. You say Toure or Schweini would open us up to problems with high wages but Cesc wouldn't?

Look, I don't think we can get past this wage issue. If we're gonna be big again we have to start by building on seasoned stars and splash money on their wages. The stingy wage politic won't bring us anywhere.

As for Kovačić, I think he solidified his position in Madrid and won't be moving anywhere.

[kurtsimonw]

That is why I wrote WAS.

And I gave a reason as to why it is 'was' and not as 'is'.

[Forza Milan!]

I don't get you Han. You say Toure or Schweini would open us up to problems with high wages but Cesc wouldn't?

Look, I don't think we can get past this wage issue. If we're gonna be big again we have to start by building on seasoned stars and splash money on their wages. The stingy wage politic won't bring us anywhere.

As for Kovačić, I think he solidified his position in Madrid and won't be moving anywhere.

Don't forget FFP, which means we can't increase wages unless we also increase revenue (hopefully our new investors will help drive the latter). Part of our problems is that we have been carrying relatively high wages (relative to most other Serie A teams) on mediocre players.

[Rossoneri7]

Don't forget FFP, which means we can't increase wages unless we also increase revenue (hopefully our new investors will help drive the latter). Part of our problems is that we have been carrying relatively high wages (relative to most other Serie A teams) on mediocre players.

Letting go of Mexes, Menez and the likes reduced the wage constraint. But its not enough, it just means the club has eased the pressure on a bloated wage budget. Today, as you so pointed out the club need to increase revenues, the sooner they do that, the sooner we can afford the players we all want. Otherwise primary focus is CL income and heavily marketing if Milan in Asian market. That said; they have 100M to burn through this winter. So I expect a reference point type of player arriving to kick start the new era. That said, our gate receipt should increase with interesting players coming in. And subject to our results continuing along these lines.

[han2503]

I don't get you Han. You say Toure or Schweini would open us up to problems with high wages but Cesc wouldn't?

Look, I don't think we can get past this wage issue. If we're gonna be big again we have to start by building on seasoned stars and splash money on their wages. The stingy wage politic won't bring us anywhere.

As for Kovačić, I think he solidified his position in Madrid and won't be moving anywhere.

It's simple really, the former two are both way past their best. I was very in favour of the Schweinsteiger idea in the summer (we were desperate for someone like him and a lot was still uncertain). But now that we should have more readily available cash we should be aiming higher than players who are in the twilights of their careers who are big names and command high wages and basically have little left to give to this team. The latter on the other hand is still 29 years old and who I still regard as a great player who has a good few years left in him.

All three would come in with high wage demands, but if we're going to be paying a high wage, I'd rather it be on someone really worth it.

We've already gone through this countless times in the past, brought in players who are big names but are way past it, while paying them wages because of their big names and only that. It's part of the reason for our current problem and I would prefer it if we don't repeat those mistakes

I don't think cash will be as free flowing as we're all hoping for tbh. So that's why I believe we should really be careful when picking the so called bigger names that will be demanding the big wages. We need to make a couple of signings 3 of which should be big names. If my choices for the midfield were Cesc, Bastian and Yaya, I'd choose Cesc easily.

Don't forget FFP, which means we can't increase wages unless we also increase revenue (hopefully our new investors will help drive the latter). Part of our problems is that we have been carrying relatively high wages (relative to most other Serie A teams) on mediocre players.

Isn't there some rule about clubs who are in the process of transferring ownership they're sort of given a "free pass" in the first year after the transition?

Still I think the Chinese will funnel in the cash through sponsors and not directly, which should have us covered on FFP

Letting go of Mexes, Menez and the likes reduced the wage constraint. But its not enough, it just means the club has eased the pressure on a bloated wage budget. Today, as you so pointed out the club need to increase revenues, the sooner they do that, the sooner we can afford the players we all want. Otherwise primary focus is CL income and heavily marketing if Milan in Asian market. That said; they have 100M to burn through this winter. So I expect a reference point type of player arriving to kick start the new era. That said, our gate receipt should increase with interesting players coming in. And subject to our results continuing along these lines.

I think we have done tremendously well to really move a lot of baggage of that wage bill, there's still a lot of work to be done, because we still have players earning big money who don't deserve it but so far we're moving in the right direction compared to the obscene wages some of our players were earning to do nothing but be mediocre or sit on the bench

[Fillipo Simone]

So you rate Fabregas over Schweini and Toure? That's okay, agreed. But the salary argument is still very questionable. It's simple for me: if we wanna succeed, we have to start building a team around WC players. Since we cannot afford nor lure players like Messi, heck even Thiago Alcantara, we should settle for second or third bests. But I think it's absolutely vital to sign one or two of these kind of players.

Now you say we've done it countless time in the past. I think your memory is tricking you. Perhaps the last three big has-been but classy players we signed were Ronaldinho, Robinho and Torres. All others - Alex, Essien, Boateng (2nd term), etc. never even were that good to begin with. Also, they never constituted that kind of key players.

That being said, I'd sign Fabregas in a heartbeat, but I think Montella doesn't want him, yes?

Also I don't understand this whole wage thing? What do you guys suggest? How can we improve and start making steps forward without signing better players -- who'll demand better wages? And don't you think we need some experience right now? This is not the Milan of the past, this is a much different, younger, greener Milan with virtually no one who's played past the CL group stage more then a few matches.

[Forza Milan!]

So you rate Fabregas over Schweini and Toure? That's okay, agreed. But the salary argument is still very questionable. It's simple for me: if we wanna succeed, we have to start building a team around WC players. Since we cannot afford nor lure players like Messi, heck even Thiago Alcantara, we should settle for second or third bests. But I think it's absolutely vital to sign one or two of these kind of players.

Now you say we've done it countless time in the past. I think your memory is tricking you. Perhaps the last three big has-been but classy players we signed were Ronaldinho, Robinho and Torres. All others - Alex, Essien, Boateng (2nd term), etc. never even were that good to begin with. Also, they never constituted that kind of key players.

That being said, I'd sign Fabregas in a heartbeat, but I think Montella doesn't want him, yes?

Also I don't understand this whole wage thing? What do you guys suggest? How can we improve and start making steps forward without signing better players -- who'll demand better wages? And don't you think we need some experience right now? This is not the Milan of the past, this is a much different, younger, greener Milan with virtually no one who's played past the CL group stage more then a few matches.

Montella's position re: Fabregas is interesting and may point to his limitations. Is he concerned about getting "star players"?

As for "the wage thing", my understanding is that we need to increase revenue before we can pay big salaries. As pointed out by Rossoneri7, that may happen relatively quickly after the closing, possibly in the form of sponsorship and/or by marketing the Milan brand in the Far East. However, it is a necessary first step. We probably also need to get rid of some of our mediocre players that are drawing relatively large salaries (still have some of those).

In relation to "has-beens", Torres was not that long ago and happened at a time where we were struggling financially (and could have probably found better ways to use the money).

[Jack Sparrow]

No, so I think we space for one world class talent at around 7-10 million salary. Because we've chopped down our wage bill so much, there will be space to add that sort of wage.

I hear us linked to Schneiderlin, Depay, Caio,Mussachio and Lucas Lima. I really liked the look for Rodrigo Caio, great anticipation and positioning skills, though he had that Gustav Gomez tendency to rush forward. I think it's a S.American thing.

Schneiderlin might be a great move, unfortunately also risks cutting space for Locatelli- but I think it's fair to give Locatelli a taste of competition. Depay or someone like that I feel is very critical for us, because we need that wing forward. Right now we have no options for Niang or Suso if one were to be injured or out of form.

We'll have to see. I don't think Montella wants to buy too many huge players this winter window. Maybe we will land Milan Badelj.

--

I hope expectations are tempered though. Look, end of the day, we are a team that is currently overperforming. Our team is still Europe League class at best. We need to work from that perspective and not keep ambitions too crazy for the season.

[Fillipo Simone]

Yes, we're overperforming, but other then Juventus and Roma, who do you think is CL class? Napoli? Lazio? Inter? Perhaps - but I don't see a big difference between us and them.

[Jack Sparrow]

None of those clubs are performing at their best. True. But it doesn't mean they won't. So we're not halfway through the season yet.

I think if we finish in the top 6 (providing no major reinforcements are made in the winter), it would be a very creditable finish. To finish top 3, is a struggle. We will have to invest in 3 top class reinforcements for CB, Midfield and Wing. I don't see that sort of talent available. And I don't see why we should spend money to get B+ level talent, only for them to rot and stagnate us.

[Fillipo Simone]

I don't understand why we should aim that low? Again, not based on performances, but taking a look at rosters of teams like Lazio or Napoli, I don't see anything special, anything much better. The only thing that they have is experience.

Therefore I'd take the risk, try get one or two WC players (I don't think Depay or Schneiderlin fit to that description) and make the assault for the 3rd place.

[Rossoneri7]

I don't understand why we should aim that low? Again, not based on performances, but taking a look at rosters of teams like Lazio or Napoli, I don't see anything special, anything much better. The only thing that they have is experience.

Therefore I'd take the risk, try get one or two WC players (I don't think Depay or Schneiderlin fit to that description) and make the assault for the 3rd place.

We will get good players this winter and if we reach CL then a CL worthy squad.

But it won't be without constraints. As FFP will have us cornered like that.

[maldini03]

I don't understand why we should aim that low? Again, not based on performances, but taking a look at rosters of teams like Lazio or Napoli, I don't see anything special, anything much better. The only thing that they have is experience.

Therefore I'd take the risk, try get one or two WC players (I don't think Depay or Schneiderlin fit to that description) and make the assault for the 3rd place.

The problem is that it's the winter market, there aren't too many big stars out there for the grabbing midway through the season. The only name that is really circulating concerning top players is Cesc, and Montella doesn't want him for whatever reason.

I think we should target those players who have fallen out of favor and give them another shot to revitalize themselves here or go for proven Serie A players who can help up make a push. For me, Depay and Schneiderlin sound pretty good. I would also throw Bazoer and Caio into the list of good targets. At this point, I'm over the idea of Badelj coming. If it's the choice between bringing him in or continuing to play Locatelli, I think it's obvious where I stand. This team has continuity going for it. We are a scrappy underdog team, we should look to bring in players who fit that mentality.

There are also obvious dream players, Veratti, Berardi, Thiago Silva but I don't really see any of them coming here unless we are playing in the CL

[d'Arc.LP]

Mirabelli is working on building the new Milan. The objectives are a defender, midfielder and a winger (Honda is leaving).
[Sky Italia]

[d'Arc.LP]

Chelsea are ready to offer €60m for Romagnoli. Borussia Dortmund are interested in Suso. #CorSport

[han2503]

So you rate Fabregas over Schweini and Toure? That's okay, agreed. But the salary argument is still very questionable. It's simple for me: if we wanna succeed, we have to start building a team around WC players. Since we cannot afford nor lure players like Messi, heck even Thiago Alcantara, we should settle for second or third bests. But I think it's absolutely vital to sign one or two of these kind of players.

Now you say we've done it countless time in the past. I think your memory is tricking you. Perhaps the last three big has-been but classy players we signed were Ronaldinho, Robinho and Torres. All others - Alex, Essien, Boateng (2nd term), etc. never even were that good to begin with. Also, they never constituted that kind of key players.

That being said, I'd sign Fabregas in a heartbeat, but I think Montella doesn't want him, yes?

Also I don't understand this whole wage thing? What do you guys suggest? How can we improve and start making steps forward without signing better players -- who'll demand better wages? And don't you think we need some experience right now? This is not the Milan of the past, this is a much different, younger, greener Milan with virtually no one who's played past the CL group stage more then a few matches.

Well... Yes. Like I said, Fabregas still has a few good years left to offer while with the other 2 all the good years are now in the past which is why I think it's acceptable to give Cesc a high wage while I don't think the other 2 would be worth it.

Look, we've been doing this kind of signing for years now, you can look back all the way to Redondo and Rivaldo. It general y always tended to hurt us in the long run. And I'm not even saying that Cesc would be a full proof signing either, he could turn into another dud that weighs heavily on out wage budget doing nothing but warming the bench, I just this it's less likely with him, more likely with the other 2

Also, I agree with you that we shouldn't be signing players who can barely qualify as above average to good. We should be looking at better if we want to compete seriously. And I think we should have a much better mixture of young and experienced in the squad. I just think we should be a lot more selective when purchasing the experienced players to make sure they're not only just a big name, but ones that can truly make a difference. We can't be just jumping on the first big name we can land simply because of just that.

No, so I think we space for one world class talent at around 7-10 million salary. Because we've chopped down our wage bill so much, there will be space to add that sort of wage.

I hear us linked to Schneiderlin, Depay, Caio,Mussachio and Lucas Lima. I really liked the look for Rodrigo Caio, great anticipation and positioning skills, though he had that Gustav Gomez tendency to rush forward. I think it's a S.American thing.

Schneiderlin might be a great move, unfortunately also risks cutting space for Locatelli- but I think it's fair to give Locatelli a taste of competition. Depay or someone like that I feel is very critical for us, because we need that wing forward. Right now we have no options for Niang or Suso if one were to be injured or out of form.

We'll have to see. I don't think Montella wants to buy too many huge players this winter window. Maybe we will land Milan Badelj.

--

I hope expectations are tempered though. Look, end of the day, we are a team that is currently overperforming. Our team is still Europe League class at best. We need to work from that perspective and not keep ambitions too crazy for the season.

Yeah, we should set a budget for the big name players we want to sign. I don't think we'll be as willing to part with big amounts as we might think (hope) so the big signings we do make have to be spot on and we can't waste big amounts for players who would end up doing nothing of use for us.

Badelj would just be a cheap and easy stop gap solution, certainly better than what we currently have but won't really make a huge jump in quality for out midfield.

Yes, we're overperforming, but other then Juventus and Roma, who do you think is CL class? Napoli? Lazio? Inter? Perhaps - but I don't see a big difference between us and them.

Agreed there

We will get good players this winter and if we reach CL then a CL worthy squad.

But it won't be without constraints. As FFP will have us cornered like that.

But I think we'll be working around that by funnelling money is through sponsors. I don't think there'll be a "sugar daddy" of sorts signing checks to buy this player or that

The problem is that it's the winter market, there aren't too many big stars out there for the grabbing midway through the season. The only name that is really circulating concerning top players is Cesc, and Montella doesn't want him for whatever reason.

I think we should target those players who have fallen out of favor and give them another shot to revitalize themselves here or go for proven Serie A players who can help up make a push. For me, Depay and Schneiderlin sound pretty good. I would also throw Bazoer and Caio into the list of good targets. At this point, I'm over the idea of Badelj coming. If it's the choice between bringing him in or continuing to play Locatelli, I think it's obvious where I stand. This team has continuity going for it. We are a scrappy underdog team, we should look to bring in players who fit that mentality.

There are also obvious dream players, Veratti, Berardi, Thiago Silva but I don't really see any of them coming here unless we are playing in the CL

I disagree about look signing players who fit the mould of "scrappy". We should be looking at much better so we can make a jump in quality. If we're going to be signing more of the same (.i.e Galliani style signing), then I'd rather we stay as we are and let the current crop grow as a team

Mirabelli is working on building the new Milan. The objectives are a defender, midfielder and a winger (Honda is leaving).
[Sky Italia]

Well at least the correct positions are being looked at. For once we're not linked to a striker (which is always reason to celebrate at this club)

Chelsea are ready to offer €60m for Romagnoli. Borussia Dortmund are interested in Suso. #CorSport

They can p!ss off.

I really don't understand the Chelsea link considering Conte totally snubbed Romagnoli this summer.

[Fillipo Simone]

Well... Yes. Like I said, Fabregas still has a few good years left to offer while with the other 2 all the good years are now in the past which is why I think it's acceptable to give Cesc a high wage while I don't think the other 2 would be worth it.

Look, we've been doing this kind of signing for years now, you can look back all the way to Redondo and Rivaldo. It general y always tended to hurt us in the long run. And I'm not even saying that Cesc would be a full proof signing either, he could turn into another dud that weighs heavily on out wage budget doing nothing but warming the bench, I just this it's less likely with him, more likely with the other 2

Also, I agree with you that we shouldn't be signing players who can barely qualify as above average to good. We should be looking at better if we want to compete seriously. And I think we should have a much better mixture of young and experienced in the squad. I just think we should be a lot more selective when purchasing the experienced players to make sure they're not only just a big name, but ones that can truly make a difference. We can't be just jumping on the first big name we can land simply because of just that.

On the other hand, Fabregas never was or will be half of the player Bastian is/was. But yes, I get your point.

Redondo is a very bad example though. We signed him at his peak, but injuries ruined his career.

The difference is, back then we had plenty of experience in our roster, while additions like Amoroso or even Rivaldo were unnecessary. Now we need quality and experience. We signed Rivaldo to make up for Boban and Albertini. But it turned out so that Pirlo and a very young Kaka made a surprise blast and cemented their first XI position. But this wasn't expected. Nowadays a 31 year old Rivaldo, winner of the WC, would be more then welcome and surely would have a secured spot.

[Jack Sparrow]

Surprisingly, a few interesting blog pieces up on Football Italia. Not the usual obvious stuff stretched out over 200 words.

Also an interesting interview with Mihaijlovic. He criticises Berlusconi quite a bit.

- He was forced to play a 4-3-1-2 because of Berlusca. He dropped it after the Napoli defeat and decided enough was enough.
- Romagnoli was considered too expensive by the management. He declared to Berlusca that if Milan sell him for less than the 25 MM they pay for him, he'd personally reimburse Milan the difference. But if they sold him for more, he would pocket the difference. Made a joke that last season Chelsea offered 60 MM.
- Berlusca kept insisting to play Diego Lopez over Donnarumma. Miha gave an ultimatum, that either he fire Miha or keep Miha and Donnarumma starts.
- Said the one person who helped him the most was Galliani and that he considers him a friend.
- Also mentioned his one regret as not being the coach when we played the Coppa Italia final against Juve. Insisted that we would have won with him on the bench.

A few interesting tidbits here.

[kurtsimonw]

On the other hand, Fabregas never was or will be half of the player Bastian is/was. But yes, I get your point.

In the past, yes. But currently? Bastian at his best won't be as good as Cesc at his worst.

[Jack Sparrow]

They're both shite. Sell Romagnoli, buy Wilshere.

[han2503]

Surprisingly, a few interesting blog pieces up on Football Italia. Not the usual obvious stuff stretched out over 200 words.

Also an interesting interview with Mihaijlovic. He criticises Berlusconi quite a bit.

- He was forced to play a 4-3-1-2 because of Berlusca. He dropped it after the Napoli defeat and decided enough was enough.
- Romagnoli was considered too expensive by the management. He declared to Berlusca that if Milan sell him for less than the 25 MM they pay for him, he'd personally reimburse Milan the difference. But if they sold him for more, he would pocket the difference. Made a joke that last season Chelsea offered 60 MM.
- Berlusca kept insisting to play Diego Lopez over Donnarumma. Miha gave an ultimatum, that either he fire Miha or keep Miha and Donnarumma starts.
- Said the one person who helped him the most was Galliani and that he considers him a friend.
- Also mentioned his one regret as not being the coach when we played the Coppa Italia final against Juve. Insisted that we would have won with him on the bench.

A few interesting tidbits here.

Well it's obvious Miha is still p!ssed off about last season and it's with good reason too

This basically confirms my theory that Berlu and Galliani have been in a little contest with each other to see who can find the next big name in coaching. It's basically The Apprentice: Coaching edition

We've seen this same sh!t being pulled from them on a regular basis now. Allegri was Galliani's pick so he did everything to defend him while Silvio publicly shamed him. And in the end Galliani had to fire him against his will basically. Then came Seedorf who Silvio wanted and Galliani didn't. Galliani had to practically have the pen pried out of his hand to allow Seedorf to sign that contract. And when Seedorf started criticising the transfer market deals and the quality he had on the roster Galliani nearly had a coronary. Galliani then jumped on the opportunity of the player unrest within the squad because Seedorf was hard on a lot of the players who then turned against him. So Galliani managed to convince Silvio that he wasn't the right guy for the job

Then came Pippo who was a combination of both Silvio and Galliani's idea (at least that's the feeling I have) who was a total and complete nightmare, but they allowed him to at least finish the season

And then came Miha, who was Galliani's idea and Silvio clearly didn't like him but went along with it. Thus ending up with Silvio petulantly firing him just a few games out from the end of the season while still in the EL places only to appoint Brocchi, who Silvio was heavily in favour of, and if it were up to him, we'd still be stuck with coach Brocchi

It's just disgusting at this point. And it's another reason why we should be celebrating this circus finally being about to come to an end.

Don't know if it was posted here, but Galliani has confirmed that these will be the final 3 weeks in his position as CEO (and everything else) of Milan

In the past, yes. But currently? Bastian at his best won't be as good as Cesc at his worst.

Agreed

We'll be paying a high wage either way. So I'd rather we pay that for someone who still has a bit more to offer. We should have tried to get Bastian earlier, he always indicated that he would have joined Milan if given the opportunity. Now I think it would just be a pointless move for both parties involved

They're both shite. Sell Romagnoli, buy Wilshere.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) DO IT!!!

[Jack Sparrow]

Anyone saw the Italy friendly? Sell Bacca, buy Belotti? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[Forza Milan!]

This basically confirms my theory that Berlu and Galliani have been in a little contest with each other to see who can find the next big name in coaching. It's basically The Apprentice: Coaching edition

More like Grumpy Old Men.

[han2503]

Anyone saw the Italy friendly? Sell Bacca, buy Belotti? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Yeah, Belotti looks like the read deal

Plus he's a Milan fan and won't act like a petulant child when things don't go his way like Bacca does. Or basically court any attention from clubs in the CL but when only WHU are interested he decides to stay.

I really want to see us selling Bacca this summer. He's not the type of striker we need, plus he's certainly not the personality we need in the dressing rooms.

Belotti would be a great buy, but he wouldn't come cheap. We'd basically have to put in anything we get from Bacca's sale (around 30m most likely - if that) and add another 10. Cairo has already slapped a 60m release clause in his new contract so we'd have to shell out above 40m for sure. Especially if he keeps scoring at the rate he is atm



On another note, Romagnoli has a muscle problem which he picked up yesterday, so if he's out, we're f@cked! And if it's something long term, we're double-f@cked!

[Forza Milan!]

This is why we cannot rely on keeping Donnarumma long term. I simply do not trust Riola.

[han2503]

In the end Donna will be the one who decides whether he stays or goes.

The important thing right now is to give him a good contract so we lock him down as soon as he turns 18. If we sell him in the future that will give us the upper hand when negotiating

That being said, WE (as in the club) shouldn't be the party pushing for the move to happen, if we're going to continue being a selling club then we'll know that this sale was fruitless. We need to be able to resist any and all offers as long as the player wants to stay, we shouldn't be trying to manoeuvre for a sale because of a huge cash injection

For now I'm not worried. Raiola (love him or hate him) generally just looks out for his client's best interests. If they want to stay he makes sure they have a great contract and if they want to leave he'll make sure they go to the best option for them and for him

Raiola won't push Donna to leave, if Donna leaves it's because it's his choice, and we all know you can't keep a player that has his heart set elsewhere. And should that situation arise we better make sure to get a record deal for him.

Also, just think back to the Zlatan situation, Raiola wasn't the one who pushed for the move even though it would benefit him a lot financially. Galliani was the one pushing Ibra out against his will. Raiola was willing to do as Zlatan decided. And when a move became inevitable he made sure to negotiate the best deal for his client.

[Forza Milan!]

In the end Donna will be the one who decides whether he stays or goes.

The important thing right now is to give him a good contract so we lock him down as soon as he turns 18. If we sell him in the future that will give us the upper hand when negotiating

That being said, WE (as in the club) shouldn't be the party pushing for the move to happen, if we're going to continue being a selling club then we'll know that this sale was fruitless. We need to be able to resist any and all offers as long as the player wants to stay, we shouldn't be trying to manoeuvre for a sale because of a huge cash injection

For now I'm not worried. Raiola (love him or hate him) generally just looks out for his client's best interests. If they want to stay he makes sure they have a great contract and if they want to leave he'll make sure they go to the best option for them and for him

Raiola won't push Donna to leave, if Donna leaves it's because it's his choice, and we all know you can't keep a player that has his heart set elsewhere. And should that situation arise we better make sure to get a record deal for him.

Also, just think back to the Zlatan situation, Raiola wasn't the one who pushed for the move even though it would benefit him a lot financially. Galliani was the one pushing Ibra out against his will. Raiola was willing to do as Zlatan decided. And when a move became inevitable he made sure to negotiate the best deal for his client.

I agree we should try to keep him, and that includes giving him a good contract as well as not putting him on the market. However, I do not share your optimism relating to Raiola. Yes, he will work in the interest of his clients ... to a point. I believe he makes most of his money on transfers, so you have to expect him to be nudging his clients in that direction whenever he can.