[han2503]

Who: Genoa C.F.C vs. A.C. Milan



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Where: Stadio Luigi Ferraris



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When:
27th September 2015 @ 12:30pm CET


Head-to-Head Record



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Serie A Form Guide

Milan: LWLWW
Genoa: LWLLL

[han2503]

This will be a big opportunity for us to get 3 points while other top teams will be facing each other (Inter v Fiorentina, Napoli v Juve) and also before facing Napoli next week. So this is a must win for us.

2 away games on the bounce as well, so it won't be easy

[Lawbaba]

Yea,a must win for us.My only fear is the inconsistency in our team especially in defence.
BTW: plz, is Antonelli injured or wot?...I wouldn't mind if abiatti gets the nod 4this game

I also think d midfield of last game shouldn't b changed bt Honda should sit this one out,suso shld get d nod instead.
Will stick with balo and bacca pairing in attack.

This post has been edited by Lawbaba: Sep 25 2015, 03:49 PM

[Fillipo Simone]

Yes. A must-win game.

[X-Offender]

Diego Lopez; Calabria, Zapata, Romagnoli, De Sciglio; De Jong, Montolivo, Bertolacci; Bonaventura; Balotelli, Luiz Adriano.

I'd rather have De Jong as anchor and Montolivo as CM. De Jong as CM is very one-dimensional. At least as holding mid he can provide good cover to our defense.

[han2503]

Diego Lopez; Calabria, Zapata, Romagnoli, De Sciglio; De Jong, Montolivo, Bertolacci; Bonaventura; Balotelli, Luiz Adriano.

I'd rather have De Jong as anchor and Montolivo as CM. De Jong as CM is very one-dimensional. At least as holding mid he can provide good cover to our defense.

I think you have to look at the De Jong-Monto issue in a different way

Technically speaking he's playing in the position that a CM occupies, true, but the role he's playing is different. De Jong in the centre simply stifles the entire flow of our midfield imo. I think we've seen him play there enough to be pretty familiar with this.

Switching Monto and him around imo gives us the added benefit of someone who can put his foot on the ball in the centre of midfield and direct the game (sort of since Monto isn't really all that great at it but much better than any of the others in our midfield). Plus by playing both of them in this way, we still have the physical aspects of De Jong's game and his ball winning skills while also having Monto in there who helps our midfield flow better.

Also great to see that Honda is finally benched

Any word on Mexes and if he's fit? I really do think we need a leader in there. Our defence holds stable as long as there's no pressure but once the opposition apply even a pin-prick of it, we simply open the flood gates

[Ry4n]

Predicting a win but i can't see us not conceding so 1-2 or -1-3

[William405]

btw Genoa will be missing several players mainly due to injury and suspension...and we have taken all their good players (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

so it's up to us to grab the game honestly.

This post has been edited by William405: Sep 27 2015, 09:56 AM

[han2503]

btw Genoa will be missing several players mainly due to injury and suspension...and we have taken all there good players (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

so it's up to us to grab the game honestly.

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Any predicted line-ups?

[Nova]

I hate matches at 12h30 , way too early (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Anyway http://milanfan.better-than.tv:5005/stream.flv

[han2503]

I hate matches at 12h30 , way too early (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Anyway http://milanfan.better-than.tv:5005/stream.flv

Thanks for the stream Nova (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)


And agreed about the kick off time

[William405]

I hate matches at 12h30 , way too early (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Anyway http://milanfan.better-than.tv:5005/stream.flv

thanks for the stream nova! will try and use it early this time. i just love the quality!

[William405]

Thanks for the stream Nova (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)


And agreed about the kick off time

It's 1:30pm for me, so perfect for me. I eat then watch Milan (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[han2503]

It's 1:30pm for me, so perfect for me. I eat then watch Milan (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

It's 12:30 for me, so it's exactly at the time we usually sit down to eat on Sunday. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[X-Offender]

It's 12:30 for me, so it's exactly at the time we usually sit down to eat on Sunday. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

You have lunch pretty early. I just had breakfast. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[William405]

It's 12:30 for me, so it's exactly at the time we usually sit down to eat on Sunday. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Ah haha. We usually eat after 1:00pm, but will have the family eating early..to watch the game. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[William405]

I hate matches at 12h30 , way too early (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

Anyway http://milanfan.better-than.tv:5005/stream.flv

Is the stream on? Just wondering, cause it's not working yet.

[Nova]

It's 12:30 for me, so it's exactly at the time we usually sit down to eat on Sunday. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Same here , I have to run up and down from kitchen to tv room and back and ALWAYS miss the goals ( if any... )

[Nova]

Is the stream on? Just wondering, cause it's not working yet.

Not on yet , they havent started broadcasting yet I think

[han2503]

You have lunch pretty early. I just had breakfast. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Well, it's Sunday tradition, only day of the week we eat early actually.

Ah haha. We usually eat after 1:00pm, but will have the family eating early..to watch the game. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Well I don't have the type of control over the kitchen functions over here. I eat when it's ready (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Same here , I have to run up and down from kitchen to tv room and back and ALWAYS miss the goals ( if any... )

I'll try to bring my plate over in front of the TV/PC depending where I'm going to watch.

[William405]

Same here , I have to run up and down from kitchen to tv room and back and ALWAYS miss the goals ( if any... )

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Nova]

I'll try to bring my plate over in front of the TV/PC depending where I'm going to watch.

We have a rule , no food on the sofa. *Breaks rule when home alone ;-)

[William405]

The liveblog for the game: http://football-italia.net/73546/liveblog-serie-sunday Actually very cool feature from football-italia.net

[William405]

Genoa: Lamanna; De Maio, Burdisso, Marchese; Figueiras, Rincon, Dzemaili, Laxalt; Capel, Pavoletti, Perotti

Genoa bench: Ujkani, Ierardi, Gakpé, Izzo, Lazovic, Tachtsidis, Raul Asensio, Lazovic, Ntcham

Milan: Diego Lopez; Calabria, Zapata, Romagnoli, De Sciglio; De Jong, Montolivo, Bertolacci; Bonaventura; Luiz Adriano, Balotelli

Milan bench: Abbiati, Donnarumma, Alex, Antonelli, Rodrigo Ely, Kucka, Nocerino, Poli, Suso, Honda, Bacca, Cerci

[Nova]

Stream is on , may swith to Sky Uk if reception is bad. Show starts at 12h00 .

[Nova]

Haha Burdisso . I remember him getting punched in the face at Inter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[han2503]

Haha Burdisso . I remember him getting punched in the face at Inter (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Can't stand him!

[Nova]

Can't stand him!

Remember how all the Inter scumbags were chasing after Navarro ?

Hilarious!!!

[Nova]

is the stream working btw ?

[han2503]

is the stream working btw ?

It is, just having a bit of trouble with buffering every few seconds atm

[Nova]

It is, just having a bit of trouble with buffering every few seconds atm

strange , works flawless here ...

[han2503]

strange , works flawless here ...

Hmm, anyone else using it?

[Nova]

i can lower the settings if you like .

Free kick Genoa , dangerous spot ...

[han2503]

i can lower the settings if you like .

Free kick Genoa , dangerous spot ...

Sure, thanks

[Nova]

Woooo , even the commentator thought it was a goal , near miss !!

[Nova]

Sure, thanks

lowered at 1000 mbs

[Nova]

Another free kick for Genoa ...

[han2503]

FFS!!

[Nova]

Goal Genoa... Deflected off the Milan wall

[han2503]

lowered at 1000 mbs

Thanks, much better now

[Nova]

Straight Yellow for Jack

[Nova]

C'mon , that shoud be yellow too !! Kicked the ball in the goal seconds after being whistled for offside (IMG:style_emoticons/default/realmad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/realmad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/realmad.gif)

[Nova]

Thanks, much better now

Thanks for the feedback (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

The ref is busting my b@lls allready

[Nova]

WTf REF !!!

[Nova]

And again no Yellow for Genoa ...

[Fillipo Simone]

Milan not playing well.

[han2503]

Really bad start

[William405]

They're just owning us! A decimated Genoa..terrible.

[han2503]

Bertolacci once again, totally absent.

Can't believe we paid 20m for this guy!

[maldini03]

Tough start so far, we are back to playing terrible, that midfield can't keep the ball for two passes. Its pathetic. Gotta say though I usually don't comment on the officiating, but to me Tagliavento is calling this one all one way. I don't know what Pavoletti needs to do to get a yellow.

[han2503]

Zapata FFS!!!

[William405]

One nightmare after the other..

[maldini03]

I'm surprised you still jump at those Han, to me it's just a matter of time before we get one of those signature Zapata plays.

[han2503]

Zapata kick starting attacking moves for our opponents is exactly why I don't want him to be a starter

[han2503]

I'm surprised you still jump at those Han, to me it's just a matter of time before we get one of those signature Zapata plays.

It's just incredibly infuriating to me that such school boy errors can be made by someone who's considered a professional

[X-Offender]

We are extremely sh*t.

[maldini03]

To me, it happens so frequently that I'm just hoping its out of his system for today

[han2503]

At least we finally seem to have gotten a bit of a handle on things now

[han2503]

So close Balo!

[Nova]

Balo almost with a header !

[maldini03]

Balotelli, love him or hate him is far and away our best player. He's the only one that can seem to make things happens

[maldini03]

Balotelli, love him or hate him is far and away our best player. He's the only one that can seem to make things happens

[X-Offender]

De Jong as mezz'ala is as useless as Honda.

[han2503]

De Jong as mezz'ala is as useless as Honda.

True, he's not being played as the cover DM. Don't get playing him there if you're going to use him incorrectly

Zapata again...

Romagnoli gets sent off because of him, nice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Nova]

Red CArd ... That Ref is killing us

[han2503]

How anyone can defend Zapata's inclusion is beyond me

The second yellow was seriously harsh though

[rip]

Zapata should b sent off for that

[Nova]

How anyone can defend Zapata's inclusion is beyond me

The second yellow was seriously harsh though

His first too

[William405]

let's not blame the ref nova, this was going to happen sooner or later with kind of play..

we are also playing very very physical, we foul on each Genoa posession

[Fillipo Simone]

Red card? A joke. Really undeserved.

[han2503]

His first too

True, but we brought this on ourselves. Zapata's pass was just stupid, but also expected from him and this is the second time in 45 minutes FFS!

[han2503]

Ely??

Seriously FFS Miha?

You bring on an inexperienced kid next to the diabolical mess that is Zapata?

[maldini03]

What a great gift from Zapata, he has become this year's Bonera. Harsh red for Romagnoli. You would think a coach who was himself a defender would be able to at least drill this team defensively. It reminds me of the period when we were playing with two defensive midfielders and were getting decimated defensively.

This one's wrapped up, a goal down, a man down, and playing terrible, and this one's cooked. Glad I woke up early for this one.

[han2503]

Can't see us turning this around at this point.

That red ended any chances.

[X-Offender]

Yes, let's blame Zapata. Momtolivo has lost the ball twice just like him yet nobody mentions it.

It's stupid to go and blame this loss on individuals. Let's just admit that we suck @ss and get over with it.

[han2503]

What a great gift from Zapata, he has become this year's Bonera. Harsh red for Romagnoli. You would think a coach who was himself a defender would be able to at least drill this team defensively. It reminds me of the period when we were playing with two defensive midfielders and were getting decimated defensively.

This one's wrapped up, a goal down, a man down, and playing terrible, and this one's cooked. Glad I woke up early for this one.

I would also like to think that a man who was a defender himself could see the destructive flaws in his players and not rely on them to the point where they are made undisputed starters.

Also why Ely? Alex would have been the easy and logical choice here considering the generous mood Zapata is in.


And WTF is up with Mexes? Is he still injured? Wasn't he supposed to be training with the team again?

[maldini03]

We couldn't connect two passes BEFORE the red, how is the team supposed to develop offensive rhythm a man down. Bertolacci and DJ added nothing to that midfield today, it's time to hit up the Primavera to find a midfielder as no one on the roster can help this situation.

[han2503]

Yes, let's blame Zapata. Momtolivo has lost the ball twice just like him yet nobody mentions it.

It's stupid to go and blame this loss on individuals. Let's just admit that we suck @ss and get over with it.

Yes, let's ignore the 2 times that Zapata literally gave the ball away right in front of our penalty area.

You can say we suck all you want but that suckage is not aided by the likes of Zapata being a liability to the team, Monto misplaced a couple of passes, just like the rest of the players but his misplaced passes did not directly lead to goal scoring opportunities, which both of Zapata's errors did, one of which got his team mate sent off

[X-Offender]

We couldn't connect two passes BEFORE the red, how is the team supposed to develop offensive rhythm a man down. Bertolacci and DJ added nothing to that midfield today, it's time to hit up the Primavera to find a midfielder as no one on the roster can help this situation.

Indeed. The midfield trio was our main flaw today. De Jong and Bertolacci add absolutely NOTHING to our game, whereas Monto looks tired as sh*t. No wonder Genoa presses up high so easily and our defenders being average at best cannot cope with it.

[han2503]

We couldn't connect two passes BEFORE the red, how is the team supposed to develop offensive rhythm a man down. Bertolacci and DJ added nothing to that midfield today, it's time to hit up the Primavera to find a midfielder as no one on the roster can help this situation.

De Jong is being used as a mezalla when he should be used as a destroyer.

Bertolacci is just absent and terrible, as he has been from the start of the season.

I'd bring on Kucks and Bacca at this point and just give it our best shot, it's not like we have anything to lose

[X-Offender]

Yes, let's ignore the 2 times that Zapata literally gave the ball away right in front of our penalty area.

You can say we suck all you want but that suckage is not aided by the likes of Zapata being a liability to the team, Monto misplaced a couple of passes, just like the rest of the players but his misplaced passes did not directly lead to goal scoring opportunities, which both of Zapata's errors did, one of which got his team mate sent off

Same difference. Everyone's been bad. How about we say Romagnoli shouldn't have raised his elbow like that knowing he was already booked? That's an even bigger fuckup than Zapata's pass.

[Nova]

I'm not saying we're playing well but having a crappy referee isn't exactly in our favour either.

[han2503]

Same difference. Everyone's been bad. How about we say Romagnoli shouldn't have raised his elbow like that knowing he was already booked? That's an even bigger fuckup than Zapata's pass.

Both his yellows were harsh and any other day he probably wouldn't have gotten either.

Zapata made 2 unforced (which is the big issue here, he wasn't even under any pressure when he lost the ball either time) errors which one of them has but us in the position we're in now. Simple as that

Defend him all you like but he is a liability, one that puts us under even greater pressure than we're already in simply because we don't have a midfield capable of controlling the game, that is why we need strong, and assured players at the back, because they'll be put under pressure at times, and Zapata is simply adding to that problem by inviting pressure on himself when he loses the ball like that

You act as if this is the first time he's done this. Please refer to the thread that I made and I posted other great examples of his f@ck ups there

[X-Offender]

Both his yellows were harsh and any other day he probably wouldn't have gotten either.

Zapata made 2 unforced (which is the big issue here, he wasn't even under any pressure when he lost the ball either time) errors which one of them has but us in the position we're in now. Simple as that

Defend him all you like but he is a liability, one that puts us under even greater pressure than we're already in simply because we don't have a midfield capable of controlling the game, that is why we need strong, and assured players at the back, because they'll be put under pressure.

His second yellow was not harsh. Not only he interrupted a very dangerous counter attack, but he raised his elbow over the opponent's face. The moment it happened I was certain he was going to get booked.

And I'm not defending Zapata. He's been bad, but blaming it all on him when everyone's been just as bad is uncalled for. He's an easy target and people are pissed we're losing, so they all start jumping on his back.

[han2503]

I'm not saying we're playing well but having a crappy referee isn't exactly in our favour either.

The ref didn't help, but when players are making mistakes that put us on the back foot and force players into making rash challenges you're inviting the ref to card you.

[han2503]

His second yellow was not harsh. Not only he interrupted a very dangerous counter attack, but he raised his elbow over the opponent's face. The moment it happened I was certain he was going to get booked.

And I'm not defending Zapata. He's been bad, but blaming it all on him when everyone's been just as bad is uncalled for. He's an easy target and people are pissed we're losing, so they all start jumping on his back.

His first was, and so was his second considering he was already on one. As I said, on any other day, he wouldn't have been carded for both

I'm not blaming it all on him, I have acknowledged that we're bad, but having players making the types of mistakes he does is certainly not helping our cause.

He's a liability plain and simple, one we cannot afford to have in the team when we're already not that good

[Nova]

The ref didn't help, but when players are making mistakes that put us on the back foot and force players into making rash challenges you're inviting the ref to card you.

Wasn't that a yellow card on montolivo ?

[X-Offender]

Who would you play? The slow and rusty Alex? Or the unexperienced Ely? Zapata has been very good until now, so it makes no sense not playing him, especially since Mexes is out injured.

[Fillipo Simone]

I really think Zapata has been the main culprit here. Sure, Berto and de Jong looked bad, Monto made a few wrongs. But Zapata gave away the crucial pass, completely unforced or pressured, whereas Monto lost the ball under pressure by 2 Genoa players.

[Fillipo Simone]

What a chance!!

[William405]

Almost got one there!!!

[Fillipo Simone]

That being said, Monto looks completely out of steam. Miha has to make a sub, pronto.

[milanbuf88]

That being said, Monto looks completely out of steam. Miha has to make a sub, pronto.

Who would you put in his place? We have no one else that is comfortable on the ball in the middle of the park.

[han2503]

Who would you play? The slow and rusty Alex? Or the unexperienced Ely? Zapata has been very good until now, so it makes no sense not playing him, especially since Mexes is out injured.

I'd play the slow and unfit Alex over someone who's going to literally hand chances to our opponents. I don't understand the dilemma here.

Zapata makes mistakes that lead to goal opportunities to the opposition. I don't care how fast he is, that simply shouldn't fly. For anyone!

[han2503]

Monto out, Kucka in.

Good change, Monto has looked very tired today

[han2503]

The amount of fouls we commit is seriously grating. Simply don't know how to recover the ball cleanly

[han2503]

Bacca for Bona

[han2503]

Such a wasted opportunity

So f@cking sick of watching this team at this point!

[han2503]

What a miss!

[X-Offender]

Frigging hell, how can you miss that?