[Zed.D]

Galliani heading for Milan exit
By Football Italia staff

Vice-President Adriano Galliani is on the verge of ending his love affair with Italian giants Milan, reports suggest.

Galliani, a loyal servant to President Silvio Berlusconi and the club’s CEO, is heading for the exit after the emergence of Barbara Berlusconi at San Siro.

Barbara, daughter of Silvio, will reportedly take control of the day-to-day running of the outfit from next summer after raising doubts about the club’s present direction.

However, a change could take place sooner given the breakdown in relationship between Barbara and Galliani.

“I’ve received a severe blow to my reputation and I won’t stay here to burn on a slow fire,” Galliani is quoted as saying by the Corriere della Sera.

The Gazzetta dello Sport and the Corriere dello Sport claim Galliani will wait eight days for the club to facilitate his exit – with a substantial pay-off – or he’ll simply resign.

Galliani, 69, first dealt with Berlusconi back in 1979 when he was involved in the television industry.

His entry into the world of football came as Vice-President of Monza from 1984. Two years later he joined Milan.

I call total BS.

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Nov 29 2013, 10:33 AM

[CrazyMilanFan]

it is everywhere in the Italian media so it could e true..

[Jack Sparrow]

We'll see.

It might just end with a very strict demarcation of duties. Perhaps Galliani looks only at commercials from now on.

Or it could be true and he walks out. Then we might be in trouble. We are struggling to adopt a model where we don't need Silvio's cash. Now suddenly there's a new model where we no longer have Galliani and his connections. I don't think this will end well.

I think of Juve after Moggi and the Alessio Secco disaster.

[X-Offender]

I call total BS.

Err, it's official.

[Danny]

Err, it's official.

Where? I see it in the media, yes, but the club hasn't endorsed it one way or the other far as I can see.

[X-Offender]

Where? I see it in the media, yes, but the club hasn't endorsed it one way or the other far as I can see.

He referred to Ansa to make official his intentions.

Link

[Danny]

Ahhhhh, so by 'official' you mean he himself did indeed say this. I know that.

Thought it was club official (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Not the first time he's told a bare-faced lie. If he was resigning, why wait till CL is over? Why not go straight away? It's more destabilising to threaten to leave than to actually do it.

I'm dubious.

[X-Offender]

Full statement

I'm leaving, with or without severance package. I'm offended, this is not how you operate when you want to change things, it's done with elegance. I'm resigning in the next few days, maybe I'll wait for the game against Ajax.

I will let some time pass before I decide what I'm going to do in the future. For now I won't accept anything from anyone. When you're offended, you must have the intelligence to let some time slide: you must be bright in taking decisions.

Leaving before the game against Ajax would be disrespectful to the team I have been supporting all my life. It's been said that Milan miss-spends and doesn't have scouts like Roma and Fiorentina, but Roma in the last five years has only been once in the Champions League, and Fiorentina never. In the last two years we managed to balance the books, other clubs have mountains of debt. Last year all our youth teams made it to the Final Four.

Link

[X-Offender]

Ahhhhh, so by 'official' you mean he himself did indeed say this. I know that.

Thought it was club official (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

He didn't want to involve the club in this. That's why he talked to Ansa instead. The guy is seriously butthurt.

[CrazyMilanFan]

he seems quite angry.. so I guess there will be lot of inside stories in coming weeks..

[Rossoneri7]

He will resign after the Ajax game, that is a certainity.

[acid911]

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[X-Offender]

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I think that would apply better to Silvio, honestly.

[acid911]

I think that would apply better to Silvio, honestly.

Too true, but Galliani has put his faith in the wrong people, honestly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Riola and Allegri has been his lethal undoing, the latter in particular. This nothing coach should never have been signed in the first place. At this point in time, this transition phase, we needed someone experience to take over from Leo, someone proven.

I'll be sad if he Galliani leaves, but I'll be even more angry if he stays. Silvio isn't a saint either, I agree.

[han2503]

Too true, but Galliani has put his faith in the wrong people, honestly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mellow.gif) Riola and Allegri has been his lethal undoing, the latter in particular. This nothing coach should never have been signed in the first place. At this point in time, this transition phase, we needed someone experience to take over from Leo, someone proven.

I'll be sad if he Galliani leaves, but I'll be even more angry if he stays. Silvio isn't a saint either, I agree.

Agree, Galliani shot himself in the foot twice over this summer when he let Allegri stay after that disaster of a season and by also appeasing said coach and buying him an over-priced Matri from a direct rival

[Zed.D]

From the so called Milan family to this. good job Silvio and daughter...

I wouldn't paint Galliani as being completely innocent in this though. especially not before I know his next destination (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Zed.D]

And let's not forget that this opens the door to Maldini's return. if there's one person in this world that could unite this team again, it's Paolo.

[X-Offender]

If there's one thing I'm going to miss about Galliani it's his explosive celebrations.

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[acid911]

Oh, there is much to miss about the guy, a lifetime's worth. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) No two words about it. It's a pity he just want deluded and delusional, and just a simple matter of faith in the wrong guy turned him over and out. I guess that's karma for the Maldini treatment he handed out to the club legend.

Another pity is that the snake (and I mean proverbially here, no offense to Allegri) will walk away scratch less. I'd much rather have heard about Allegri's firing first and foremost and only then parted ways with Galliani. Fester is no saint, not many are, but Milan was, and will ever be, a bite too big for Allegri to chew. FACT.

[Danny]

I quite simply think Galliani outlived his usefulness. He's a throwback to the olden days, the days of Milan dominance and the way we used to operate.

I honestly feel Milan needs to move on, and I genuinely feel Babs is the right direction for us. She has the ambition others around her seem to lack, and no one has more influence over Silvio than his girl.

She's young, fresh, she wants Milan back the way we were, while Galliani just seems to be going nowhere while boasting about how much money we're saving.

Pity that's costing us everything.

[X-Offender]

I quite simply think Galliani outlived his usefulness. He's a throwback to the olden days, the days of Milan dominance and the way we used to operate.

I honestly feel Milan needs to move on, and I genuinely feel Babs is the right direction for us. She has the ambition others around her seem to lack, and no one has more influence over Silvio than his girl.

She's young, fresh, she wants Milan back the way we were, while Galliani just seems to be going nowhere while boasting about how much money we're saving.

Pity that's costing us everything.

+1

[acid911]

Far too much pity in this thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Still, I must say that it's been a wild ride, Galliani, if you go.

[han2503]

I quite simply think Galliani outlived his usefulness. He's a throwback to the olden days, the days of Milan dominance and the way we used to operate.

I honestly feel Milan needs to move on, and I genuinely feel Babs is the right direction for us. She has the ambition others around her seem to lack, and no one has more influence over Silvio than his girl.

She's young, fresh, she wants Milan back the way we were, while Galliani just seems to be going nowhere while boasting about how much money we're saving.

Pity that's costing us everything.

Agreed.

Galliani put himself into this position. We need a breath of fresh air in this club, Barbara, Paolo and Albertini would all be great choices to lead us into a new era.

[Ry4n]

I wonder if anyone else will resign , interesting but also sad times.

[han2503]

I wonder if anyone else will resign , interesting but also sad times.

I think sad time would have been staying as we were, which was heading downhill

[nuh]

good move for the future...but awful timing...all of this should of been taken care of during summer or waited until the december holiday

[X-Offender]

I think sad time would have been staying as we were, which was heading downhill

Yeah. It's as if everyone wanted Galliani's @ss out, and now that he's out people are saying how sad it is and all kinds of crap. Galliani ruined this club after 2006, plain and simple.

[CrazyMilanFan]

I wonder if anyone else will resign , interesting but also sad times.

brida has been quoted to leave as well mainly...

also read on milannews that Silvio is pissed of that Gallaini should have come to him rather than making it so public as it bring bad name to Ac Milan... also that Maldini is most likely to replace gallaini.. Have used Google translator so it could be something totally different :-)

This post has been edited by CrazyMilanFan: Nov 29 2013, 08:47 PM

[Ry4n]

I think sad time would have been staying as we were, which was heading downhill

No what i mean by sad times is what Galliani brought to Milan since berlusconi brought him to Milan and hired him that is not going to be extinguished Han you cannot erase history. But that does not mean i support what hes done to Milan in recent times.

So indeed it is sad times that hes leaving but its the right time none the less.

[Ry4n]

Yeah. It's as if everyone wanted Galliani's @ss out, and now that he's out people are saying how sad it is and all kinds of crap. Galliani ruined this club after 2006, plain and simple.

Oh here we go over reactionary (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

To not be sentimental about Galliani leaving regardless if your in the pro or anti Galliani camp. Him leaving is just as sad as a long time player leaving its under shitty circumstances too this should have been handled with better care.

This post has been edited by Ry4n: Nov 29 2013, 08:50 PM

[han2503]

No what i mean by sad times is what Galliani brought to Milan since berlusconi brought him to Milan and hired him that is not going to be extinguished Han you cannot erase history. But that does not mean i support what hes done to Milan in recent times.

So indeed it is sad times that hes leaving but its the right time none the less.

Oh okay, sort of understand where you're coming from but we've been driven to a point where it's become imperative that things change. And Galliani out is the biggest step in the right direction we can make.

[Ry4n]

Oh okay, sort of understand where you're coming from but we've been driven to a point where it's become imperative that things change. And Galliani out is the biggest step in the right direction we can make.

Agreed fully.

[Danny]

No thread on Paolo as our new Technical Director?

What thoughts do you have? I know how Jack feels about it, but what about the rest of you? Han implies he's happy with that. Do you all share that?

[han2503]

No thread on Paolo as our new Technical Director?

What thoughts do you have? I know how Jack feels about it, but what about the rest of you? Han implies he's happy with that. Do you all share that?

I don't think we should be making threads about it before it happens

Personally I'd be very happy with it, he's a highly respected figure in football and will go a long way in repairing the damage caused by Galliani over the past few years

Personally, I don't think Paolo should just take up Galliani's entire portfolio of duties. It's just ridiculous that one man in a club handles everything from payroll, extensions, transfer activity, handing out silly awards, hiring and firing staff and everything else in between.

Braida will most likely be going out as well so that's 2 positions that need to be filled, I think Barbara should step in to a more prominent managerial role at the club rather than just a board member, I think she's a very business savvy woman, knows what she wants and how to go after it, Albertini and Paolo would also step in to take over for Braida and at least part of the responsibilities which fell under Galliani

[Danny]

I don't think we should be making threads about it before it happens

Galliani hasn't quit yet either (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Yet here we are.

Personally I'd be very happy with it, he's a highly respected figure in football and will go a long way in repairing the damage caused by Galliani over the past few years

Personally, I don't think Paolo should just take up Galliani's entire portfolio of duties. It's just ridiculous that one man in a club handles everything from payroll, extensions, transfer activity, handing out silly awards, hiring and firing staff and everything else in between.

Braida will most likely be going out as well so that's 2 positions that need to be filled, I think Barbara should step in to a more prominent managerial role at the club rather than just a board member, I think she's a very business savvy woman, knows what she wants and how to go after it, Albertini and Paolo would also step in to take over for Braida and at least part of the responsibilities which fell under Galliani

Galliani is CEO and VP, Paolo will be TD. Completely different roles. And for me Babs will become the new CEO.

[Jack Bauer]

It's been a long time coming. Galliani did a lot for the club in the past but really dropped the ball in the last 5-7 years and a change was much needed. Hope more steps will be taken to improve our situation.

And let's not forget that this opens the door to Maldini's return. if there's one person in this world that could unite this team again, it's Paolo.

Totally. He's exactly what we need right now.

[Danny]

Totally. He's exactly what we need right now.

Is he? I thought we needed a fresh approach, new players, a new coach, and ambition. Isn't bringing Maldini in as some kind of Godfather in a made-up position just sentiment for the sake of it?

[Jack Bauer]

Did I say that he'll solve all of our problems? There's no magic solution, it will be a process and I like said earlier, more changes are needed. It's just a first step, one of many that we need to take.

And It won't be a made-up position. He won't come unless he could make a difference.

This post has been edited by Jack Bauer: Nov 30 2013, 03:06 AM

[Danny]

Did I say that he'll solve all of our problems?

No, but you stated he's exactly what we need. I'm not sure what makes you say that, going beyond sentiment and our obvious love for him as a player.

There's no magic solution, it will be a process and I like said earlier, more changes are needed. It's just a first step, one of many that we need to take.

And It won't be made-up position. He won't come unless he could make a difference.

This club has been run incredibly poorly over the past decade. Increasingly so. Why on earth do you have sudden faith he's being appointed for his abilities as a 'Technical Director' as opposed to feeling it might just be a saccharin appointment to appease the masses.

And, sorry, but it IS a made up position. In the UK it's often called 'Director of Football' and quite honestly it's total nonsense. What is a TD meant to do? Deal with football? That's the manager's job. Bring in new players? That's the CEO's job. Manage finances? That's the Finance Director's responsibility. All a TD does is get in the way - it's an absolutely absurd position and not one you need at Milan. It quite possibly led to the end of Carlo at Milan too - it's like some kind of invigilator watching over the manager, interfering and just not helping.

If we don't want Allegri - sack him. Why the hell waste a wage bringing in a TD?

And if we're grooming Paolo for management, how the f*ck much worse can he do RIGHT now in the league than Allegri is?

Ok this was a bit of a rambling post at 2am.

[Jack Bauer]

Galliani is CEO and VP, Paolo will be TD. Completely different roles. And for me Babs will become the new CEO.

How many CEO's like Galliani do you know? He was CEO, VP, TD and god knows what together. Barbara won't do all that IMO, she'll be dealing more with managerial stuff while Paolo will be more TD like Leonardo was at Inter and PSG, dealing with transfers and other football stuff.

[Jack Bauer]

And, sorry, but it IS a made up position. In the UK it's often called 'Director of Football' and quite honestly it's total nonsense. What is a TD meant to do? Deal with football? That's the manager's job. Bring in new players? That's the CEO's job. Manage finances? That's the Finance Director's responsibility. All a TD does is get in the way - it's an absolutely absurd position and not one you need at Milan. It quite possibly led to the end of Carlo at Milan too - it's like some kind of invigilator watching over the manager, interfering and just not helping.

in Italy it's different than UK. Coach here is not a manager, he doesn't deal with transfers, he just asks for type of player from the board. In Milan so far Galliani was responsible for several roles at ones, even though Braida and Leonardo when he was here helped him with transfers but now I think it will be different. In Inter for example a sporting director, Branca, deals with transfer and I think Paolo's role will be similar. Roma is another example where Sabatini, a TD, is handling transfers and other football stuff while CEO deals with business things.

This post has been edited by Jack Bauer: Nov 30 2013, 03:42 AM

[X-Offender]

No thread on Paolo as our new Technical Director?

What thoughts do you have? I know how Jack feels about it, but what about the rest of you? Han implies he's happy with that. Do you all share that?

How can someone not be happy? It's Paolo Maldini.

[Ry4n]

http://www.football-italia.net/42306/berlu...l-galliani-fate

Cesare Maldini, a former Milan Coach and father of Paolo, told Al-Jazeera the negotiations were at a very advanced stage.

“I am sad for Adriano, but at the same time happy for Paolo’s return to Milan.”

This post has been edited by Ry4n: Nov 30 2013, 11:12 AM

[Rossoneri7]

No thread on Paolo as our new Technical Director?

What thoughts do you have? I know how Jack feels about it, but what about the rest of you? Han implies he's happy with that. Do you all share that?

It is a huge challenge, as when Galliani first took charge he had Silvio's unconditional funding and built stellar sides.

My worry is that Maldini would find a challenge too much to handle. Like if the negative results keep pilling, the fans 'would' turn on him. Maybe someone with experience on the job to handle the matters now, and ease in Paolo later down the line. But as things now, Paolo will be put into the deep end.


Regardless, I hope and wish he does a good job!

[Danny]

in Italy it's different than UK. Coach here is not a manager, he doesn't deal with transfers,

Same as UK. Manager tells the board who he wants and they make it happen.

he just asks for type of player from the board. In Milan so far Galliani was responsible for several roles at ones, even though Braida and Leonardo when he was here helped him with transfers but now I think it will be different. In Inter for example a sporting director, Branca, deals with transfer and I think Paolo's role will be similar. Roma is another example where Sabatini, a TD, is handling transfers and other football stuff while CEO deals with business things.

What is the 'other football stuff' though without interfering with the manager? I can't think of a single duty a dedicated TD could have non-transfer related.

[Danny]

How can someone not be happy? It's Paolo Maldini.

I love Paolo. I am just dubious if this is a good role for him.

[Danny]

How many CEO's like Galliani do you know?

Charles Green, former Rangers CEO, did as much as Galliani maybe more. It's why he got hounded out - others wanted his power.

He was CEO, VP, TD and god knows what together. Barbara won't do all that IMO, she'll be dealing more with managerial stuff while Paolo will be more TD like Leonardo was at Inter and PSG, dealing with transfers and other football stuff.

I think you underestimate what a CEO is and how powerful they are. That's the boss. Not the owner, but the boss. CEO has power to do what they like, and Galliani pretty much had that power.

I say that will be Barbara's new position.

[X-Offender]

So, Silvio announced that Galliani is staying.

Link

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[TriniKing_CE]

It is a huge challenge, as when Galliani first took charge he had Silvio's unconditional funding and built stellar sides.

My worry is that Maldini would find a challenge too much to handle. Like if the negative results keep pilling, the fans 'would' turn on him. Maybe someone with experience on the job to handle the matters now, and ease in Paolo later down the line. But as things now, Paolo will be put into the deep end.


Regardless, I hope and wish he does a good job!

My sentiments exactly...

[CrazyMilanFan]

So, Silvio announced that Galliani is staying.

Link

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wow these kind of acts will be further damaging Milan's Image...

[Danny]

I'm in disbelief at the comical farce engulfing my 2 teams. It's just beyond words.

[han2503]

I'm in disbelief at the comical farce engulfing my 2 teams. It's just beyond words.

I think we all know what the common link is here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

And huge (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) at Silvio! WTF is he doing, everyone is basically confirming Galliani's exit including Galliani himself. Is this supposed to be a "ploy" to not alarm the masses? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

@ Danny, regarding your convo with Jack, no one expects Paolo to come in and things will magically improve. The problems on the pitch atm are all coach related. We don't have the best team in the league anymore thanks to Galliani but that won't be fixed unless Paolo is given massive funds to work with, but I'm pretty sure no one thinks that our team deserved to reside in 13th position in the table and losing/drawing with relegation material opposition

The problems on the pitch all relate to Allegri, what I'd expect is that he'd be removed along with Galliani. We can improve the squad and make additions by bringing in players that the NEW coach would need to make his system work, whoever that might be

As for Galliani's role and Paolo's role, I think that Galliani basically had everything under his hands and it got to a point where he couldn't separate one duty from another and things have become so hazy and clouded that he doesn't know which way is up. If Paolo comes in, I think it should only be in a Director of football capacity, as Jack said, like Branca or Sabatini at Inter and Roma and Barbara would take over the CEO role, both of these roles and everything in between is currently under Galliani's hands, and that's what needs to change as well as the man himself

[X-Offender]

I'm in disbelief at the comical farce engulfing my 2 teams. It's just beyond words.

Yep, it's a comical farce. And like CMF said, this will be further damaging our image. Unbelievable.

[William405]

http://football-italia.net/42327/milan-wil...eneral-managers

"Milan will have two general managers."

[han2503]

http://football-italia.net/42327/milan-wil...eneral-managers

"Milan will have two general managers."

Let the confusion and power struggles begin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Instead of things going for the better, they're getting worse by the minute

[Jack Bauer]

I think you underestimate what a CEO is and how powerful they are. That's the boss. Not the owner, but the boss. CEO has power to do what they like, and Galliani pretty much had that power.

I say that will be Barbara's new position.

I don't underestimate, I just don't think Barbara will be the Galliani type (when Galliani eventually leave) and won't combine 3 or 4 positions, I think we'll be more like Inter or Roma where TD has a real power.

@ Danny, regarding your convo with Jack, no one expects Paolo to come in and things will magically improve. The problems on the pitch atm are all coach related. We don't have the best team in the league anymore thanks to Galliani but that won't be fixed unless Paolo is given massive funds to work with, but I'm pretty sure no one thinks that our team deserved to reside in 13th position in the table and losing/drawing with relegation material opposition

The problems on the pitch all relate to Allegri, what I'd expect is that he'd be removed along with Galliani. We can improve the squad and make additions by bringing in players that the NEW coach would need to make his system work, whoever that might be

As for Galliani's role and Paolo's role, I think that Galliani basically had everything under his hands and it got to a point where he couldn't separate one duty from another and things have become so hazy and clouded that he doesn't know which way is up. If Paolo comes in, I think it should only be in a Director of football capacity, as Jack said, like Branca or Sabatini at Inter and Roma and Barbara would take over the CEO role, both of these roles and everything in between is currently under Galliani's hands, and that's what needs to change as well as the man himself

+1

[Jack Bauer]

Let the confusion and power struggles begin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Instead of things going for the better, they're getting worse by the minute

We can't do anything right, fans of other clubs must be enjoying what a joke we have become.

[dst]

MOAAARRRR IS BETTER!!!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

...

Oh God! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Danny]

Wow, just when it went to Stupidsville it took a sharp left at Idiocyville and straight on to the outskirts of ThickeryTown.

2 CEOs?!

I mean God what is next? Berlusconi announcing himself as our new defender? Well, he's pretty good at doing it in a court of law so why the hell not select himself in the starting team.

This is just a total crock and I'm getting sick of it.

[dst]

This is when the Curva Sud come in with

'WE ONLY HAVE ONE GM'

[X-Offender]

This is when the Curva Sud come in with

'WE ONLY HAVE ONE GM'

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[KillerMax]

I really did think the recernt news regarding Galliani leaving, Barbra taking charge and splitting duties with Maldini, Albertini and some other newly appointed staff was too F@CKING good to be true. And it was. F@ck this bullshit!

[KillerMax]

I call total BS.

Indeed.

[Danny]

Indeed.

So did I. He and I were the only two who didn't buy this for a second.

[X-Offender]

So did I. He and I were the only two who didn't buy this for a second.

No, you and Zed didn't think Galliani's statement was true. That's different. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Danny]

No, you and Zed didn't think Galliani's statement was true. That's different. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

In what way? We said he was lying, and he wasn't going anywhere, and guess what; he's not going anywhere.

I consider it a bluff, designed to pivot himself at the club and clear up his position.

And it's worked well.

[X-Offender]

You're right, you actually did mention it being a lie. My bad.

Though I'm not sure I can agree with you. Why make such a fuss when he could have easily talked to Silvio in private about it? And Silvio could had easily confirmed all his faith in Galliani with a single statement. No, I think he really wanted to leave, but Silvio changed his mind in the end.

[Zed.D]

No, you and Zed didn't think Galliani's statement was true. That's different. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I actually thought the rumor that he was leaving Milan was BS. but then he publicly said he was leaving Milan with or without compensation and that his reputation had been hurt, blah blah and I thought "it's serious this time"...

Lesson learned: never believe those lying basterds!

This post has been edited by Zed.D: Dec 1 2013, 11:19 AM

[acid911]

Lesson learned: never believe those lying basterds!

Well I never believe things until they are past a certain point. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) In this case, the only time I'd have totally believed this if Galliani was at another club holding his shirt. Oh wait.

[kurtsimonw]

I avoided to comment until anything official. If something sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Dec 1 2013, 01:08 PM

[Danny]

You're right, you actually did mention it being a lie. My bad.

Though I'm not sure I can agree with you. Why make such a fuss when he could have easily talked to Silvio in private about it? And Silvio could had easily confirmed all his faith in Galliani with a single statement. No, I think he really wanted to leave, but Silvio changed his mind in the end.

Because making it public reveals his displeasure and forced Silvio's hand. If he'd kept it quiet it would have reduced his (Galliani's) hand. He had an ace up his slave of threatening to quit, based on increasing uncertainty over his role. By going public it forced Silvio to take action and guess what?

A day later we hear Paolo lined up for TD, Babs to be business CEO and Galliani to be football CEO!

Total mess but Galliani proved his intelligence here; excellent bluff and it's made his position at the club clearer, and stronger.

[Danny]

I actually thought the rumor that he was leaving Milan was BS. but then he publicly said he was leaving Milan with or without compensation and that his reputation had been hurt, blah blah and I thought "it's serious this time"...

Lesson learned: never believe those lying basterds!

Spot on. Galliani is a 100% liar. A clever, mischievous man who uses words and context to manipulate situations to his/Milan's benefit.

I remember when we signed Ronaldinho - he'd said literally a week earlier we were doing no more business. Then we shell out millions of pounds on Ron.

He is one of the biggest liars in football.

[Fillipo Simone]

And once again we let the train pass and decide to hold on to that status quo which is slowly ruining us.

[X-Offender]

And once again we let the train pass and decide to hold on to that status quo which is slowly ruining us.

Yep. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

[Danny]

Can't believe anyone was suckered into believing him tbh.

But the new system of 2 GM's may just work. We'll see if it does next month I guess.

[Fillipo Simone]

I don't know, little suggests it will work. Can't really see the benefits of Galliani staying. Milan needs some structural changes, not another level of sustained environment.

[X-Offender]

Eh, I feel nothing will happen until Berlusconi passes away. Things will remain stale for a while.

[Fillipo Simone]

And then?

[X-Offender]

And then?

Something will happen. Something.

[Fillipo Simone]

What? I just don't see it. Barbara and Galliani will maintain doing whatever has been done for years.

[X-Offender]

What? I just don't see it. Barbara and Galliani will maintain doing whatever has been done for years.

Galliani will be the first to leave when Silvio passes away. Mark my words. Silvio is the only reason Galliani is still in charge.

[Fillipo Simone]

Hmh, not so sure about that.

[X-Offender]

Oh, I'm sure. More sure than I've ever been of anything in my life.

[Jack Bauer]

Galliani: "I'm sorry about Allegri leaving because it has been 4 wonderful years, but we both agree that it is the right decision."

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[X-Offender]

It's these kind of statements that make Galliani really annoying.

[Fillipo Simone]

Seriously, are they in some kind of a relationship? Or does the world look radically different when you're exposed to Allegri's thoughts on daily basis?

[kurtsimonw]

I'd give Max's overall time here a 5/10.

[han2503]

I'd give Max's overall time here a 5/10.

The 5 would solely be based on the title season, the other 3 years were a big fat zero, especially his second when he literally gave the title away to Juve

[kurtsimonw]

The 5 would solely be based on the title season, the other 3 years were a big fat zero, especially his second when he literally gave the title away to Juve

Well for me he gets points for...

*Winning the title.
*Being very competitive 2nd season in challenging for the title.
*Managing to get into the CL last season when it looked very unlikely.

Negatvies
*Playing players out of position too often.
*Sticking with players who were underperforming too often.
*Poor starts, every season.
*Likely to miss out on Europe completely this season.

[Rossoneri7]

Seriously, are they in some kind of a relationship? Or does the world look radically different when you're exposed to Allegri's thoughts on daily basis?

I totally understand your frustration when Allegri receives such applause from our executives, considering he has so far taken Milan to the pits of Serie A. Galliani is stuck with this coach, that for me is absolute. The replacement will be Prandelli, I'll put money on this right no with you - Galliani is just trying to keep it neat and tidy without any noise. Once Allegri is gone, I doubt you will hear much of the same, on the contrary, it will be praise for Prandelli. And Prandelli fails, we all call him a small club coach who overachieved at NT level, or failed as well (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) And we call Galliani an idiot for signing him ... Ah, tis the cycle of life (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


In all honesty, Galliani is just praising him to keep the ship steady and on course to climb the table. I doubt a man of his experience can be influenced by Allegri, I mean if you have this quality in a squad, the coach is most likely of similar calibre. Or IMO at least

This post has been edited by Rossoneri7: Jan 6 2014, 11:00 PM

[X-Offender]

^ Prandelli? It'll be Seedorf. When asked yesterday if Seedorf is in pole position for becoming new coach, Galliani said smiling: "Let's just say he's in position".

[han2503]

Well for me he gets points for...

*Winning the title.
*Being very competitive 2nd season in challenging for the title.
*Managing to get into the CL last season when it looked very unlikely.

Negatvies
*Playing players out of position too often.
*Sticking with players who were underperforming too often.
*Poor starts, every season.
*Likely to miss out on Europe completely this season.

The 2nd and 3rd points in the positives section for me should fall under negative.

First off, in his second season he had undisputably the best squad in the league, we gave Juve that title, it was ours to lose all season long and we sure did our best to do just that

Second, managing to get into the CL last season shouldn't have been the epic feat that we made it into thanks to a start that could only be comparable to that of a newly promoted side.

[kurtsimonw]

Just like a terrible run is a negative, a great run is a positive. Yeah we shouldn't have been in that position, but he did a ridiculous job to get us into the top 3.

[han2503]

Just like a terrible run is a negative, a great run is a positive. Yeah we shouldn't have been in that position, but he did a ridiculous job to get us into the top 3.

Looking back at the season objectively, how much of that was down to tactics and how much of that was mostly to dumb luck/favourable ref decisions?

We even needed help on the last day against Siena. It was just an embarrassment all round

[kurtsimonw]

Looking back at the season objectively, how much of that was down to tactics and how much of that was mostly to dumb luck/favourable ref decisions?

We even needed help on the last day against Siena. It was just an embarrassment all round

At the same time you could argue he'd have won 2 titles if it weren't for dumb luck/bad refereeing though. That goal not given against Juve was beyond ridiculous.

[han2503]

At the same time you could argue he'd have won 2 titles if it weren't for dumb luck/bad refereeing though. That goal not given against Juve was beyond ridiculous.

It's true, that moment changed the season, but we also lost a lot of stupid points that season when in reality we should have cruised it.

[Fillipo Simone]

Well for me he gets points for...

*Winning the title.
*Being very competitive 2nd season in challenging for the title.
*Managing to get into the CL last season when it looked very unlikely.

Negatvies
*Playing players out of position too often.
*Sticking with players who were underperforming too often.
*Poor starts, every season.
*Likely to miss out on Europe completely this season.

I'd put it like this:

Positives
+ Winning the scudetto in his first year, after several years of waiting
+ Evading final execution by turning around his prior mess
+ Trying to think outside the Milan routine and applying a new system

Negatives
- Sticking rigidly to a system that isn't suited to us, nor do we have the necessary players
- Manhandling: some get a cold treatment, others stay top even after multiple fails
- No finesse; which is actually one of the biggest problems with him
- No ability to adapt quickly or to excel
- Eventually his approach and personalty are bound to create a big mess he isn't up to

A disaster this season which could have easily happened last season as well, which shows you how this guy isn't able to adapt or become better.

At the same time you could argue he'd have won 2 titles if it weren't for dumb luck/bad refereeing though. That goal not given against Juve was beyond ridiculous.

Which is something you always fail to acknowledged when talking about Ancelotti. But it all comes down to preferences. I'm weak when it comes to Carlo, you're fond of Allegri as you usually like these kind of generally criticized types. What can I say? It's human.

I totally understand your frustration when Allegri receives such applause from our executives, considering he has so far taken Milan to the pits of Serie A. Galliani is stuck with this coach, that for me is absolute. The replacement will be Prandelli, I'll put money on this right no with you - Galliani is just trying to keep it neat and tidy without any noise. Once Allegri is gone, I doubt you will hear much of the same, on the contrary, it will be praise for Prandelli. And Prandelli fails, we all call him a small club coach who overachieved at NT level, or failed as well (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) And we call Galliani an idiot for signing him ... Ah, tis the cycle of life (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


In all honesty, Galliani is just praising him to keep the ship steady and on course to climb the table. I doubt a man of his experience can be influenced by Allegri, I mean if you have this quality in a squad, the coach is most likely of similar calibre. Or IMO at least

Yep, this I understand. But I really think we should have sacked him and appoint a caretaker. The way he's handling Milan, nothing is impossible in the worst way.