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Serie A - Week 17 - Atalanta -Milan, Date: 08/01/12 Time: 15:00 CET |
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Jan 5 2012, 04:31 PM
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Back to business, first league game of 2012. Hopefully we start the year on a high.
Juve will be away to Lecce, so I can't really see the opportunity to gain ground here, but you never know...
Anyone have any idea on who is still injured?
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Jan 5 2012, 07:17 PM
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QUOTE Milan (4-3-1-2): Abbiati; Bonera, Nesta, Thiago Silva, Antonini; Aquilani, Van Bommel, Nocerino; Boateng; Pato, Ibrahimovic. A disp.: Amelia, Zambrotta, Mexes, Gattuso, Seedorf, Emanuelson, Robinho. This is the mediaset lineup. Gazzetta have Robs starting ahead of Pato, I personally think Pato is the better choice as he needs to start playing if we want to get him scoring as much as possible. I'd personally sit Aqui down in this one and start Urby, or push Boateng back and bring in Robinho. Aqui is a yellow away from being suspended. That would mean losing him for the Inter game
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Jan 5 2012, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jan 5 2012, 07:25 PM)  That would weaken us, and Atalanta is undefeated at home, and last season in Serie B only beaten twice at home. So I wouldn't do that, too riskful, and that only in case he gets yellow... He tends to get a lot of yellows... Very clumsy challenges in every game, it would weaken us very slightly imo, but I prefer that weakness to be against Atalanta than Inter...
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Jan 6 2012, 08:31 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 5 2012, 09:12 PM)  Hopefully Abate is fit for this. I don't think he is. Gazetta have him returning for the Inter match
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Jan 6 2012, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 6 2012, 01:43 PM)  Abbiati; Zambrotta, Nesta, Thiago Silva, Antonini; Aquilani, Van Bommel, Nocerino; Boateng; Pato, Ibrahimovic.
We have the worst fullbacks in the league. Taiwo should be given the chane in this one, while playing Zambro is much better than playing Bonera. Hopefully Abate gets back for the derby so we can play him on the right and Zambro on the left
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Jan 7 2012, 01:28 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 6 2012, 08:43 AM)  Abbiati; Zambrotta, Nesta, Thiago Silva, Antonini; Aquilani, Van Bommel, Nocerino; Boateng; Pato, Ibrahimovic.
We have the worst fullbacks in the league. Sucks that we couldn't get Balzaretti!
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Jan 7 2012, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE We have the worst fullbacks in the league. Naah, it isn't that bad. However, against Inter we should pray seeing Abate back as RB.
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Jan 7 2012, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 7 2012, 01:54 PM)  Naah, it isn't that bad. However, against Inter we should pray seeing Abate back as RB. Yep, because that would either mean Antonini on the left or Bonera on the right. Or even worse, the both of them if something happens to Zambro (IMG: style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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Jan 7 2012, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE Milan (4-3-1-2): Abbiati; Zambrotta, Nesta, Thiago Silva, Antonini; Boateng, Van Bommel, Nocerino; Emanuelson; Pato, Ibrahimovic. A disp.: Amelia, Bonera, Mexes, Valoti, Taiwo, El Shaarawy, Robinho. This is mediaset's lineup. Apparently Aquilani is injured, Seedorf as well, so we're very short in medfield. Glad to see Boateng being pushed back, what I don't like seeing is Urby once again behind the strikers. Play Robinho there FFS, it would save a lot of hassle!
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Jan 7 2012, 03:28 PM
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Inzaghi injured/not ready or Allegri treatment?
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Jan 7 2012, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 7 2012, 03:28 PM)  If Allegri plays Emanuelson over Robinho, consider me speechless. Be prepared (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Jan 7 2012, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 7 2012, 03:28 PM)  If Allegri plays Emanuelson over Robinho, consider me speechless. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Can't wait to see this happen!! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 7 2012, 03:28 PM)  Inzaghi injured/not ready or Allegri treatment? Who knows at this point, he seemed more than ok on Wed. This is what Max said QUOTE I only have Mark Van Bommel, Antonio Nocerino and Kevin-Prince Boateng for midfield. I can use either Robinho or Urby Emanuelson in the trequartista role. As for the full-backs, I could play both Daniele Bonera and Gianluca Zambrotta, but I have to evaluate the situation. I find it ridiculous that he only considers Urby as an AM, when he's so far from being that it's not even funny
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Jan 7 2012, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jan 7 2012, 04:42 PM)  Now I wish we had Montolivo...
And we need to play a mid over Robinho at least at AM, cuz we can't allow only 3 mids with that weak midfield. Urby, Carmona, Valoti, Idunno..
I wish we had Merkel even more IMO,that's not a weak midfield...Boateng and Nocerino are machines,and Van Bommel is a defensive midfielder who covers the defence.Robinho working his a** behind the strikers should be more than fine. And,about the fullbacks,maybe there was a mistake in translation.Maybe,he's talking about only one side :/
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Jan 7 2012, 05:58 PM
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I don't think we'll live to that day..
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Jan 7 2012, 07:08 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jan 7 2012, 03:42 PM)  Now I wish we had Montolivo...
And we need to play a mid over Robinho at least at AM, cuz we can't allow only 3 mids with that weak midfield. Urby, Carmona, Valoti, Idunno..
I wish we had Merkel even more Why?? It's not a weak midfield, on the contrary, it's a very powerful midfield with 2 great runners and VB covering the defence. Robinho would help link it all up, far better than Urby
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Jan 8 2012, 01:18 AM
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I don't see how Emanuelson can make the difference. I my opinion it's better to play a midfield of classy workers and fighters without a true AM (which we're playing anyway all season long) then add in one half-decent and newly pronounced AM like Emanuelson.
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Jan 8 2012, 01:19 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 8 2012, 02:18 AM)  I don't see how Emanuelson can make the difference. I my opinion it's better to play a midfield of classy workers and fighters without a true AM (which we're playing anyway all season long) then add in one half-decent and newly pronounced AM like Emanuelson. I see Carmona is called up. Let's start him at AM, and bench Emanuelson. I also don't see much in Emanuelson. Carmona seems the closest thing to what we miss in midfield. So: Carmona Nocerino , Van Bommel , Boateng Because if we going to play Robinho as AM, it will be runners, runners, and runners, oh, and Van Bommel...
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Jan 8 2012, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jan 7 2012, 07:19 PM)  I see Carmona is called up. Let's start him at AM, and bench Emanuelson. I also don't see much in Emanuelson. Carmona seems the closest thing to what we miss in midfield. So: Carmona Nocerino , Van Bommel , Boateng Because if we going to play Robinho as AM, it will be runners, runners, and runners, oh, and Van Bommel... as interesting as that would be, i promise you Carmona won't start. If anything Il Faraone would get the nod over Carmona...
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Jan 8 2012, 01:29 AM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jan 7 2012, 07:19 PM)  I see Carmona is called up. Let's start him at AM, and bench Emanuelson. I also don't see much in Emanuelson. Carmona seems the closest thing to what we miss in midfield. So: Carmona Nocerino , Van Bommel , Boateng Because if we going to play Robinho as AM, it will be runners, runners, and runners, oh, and Van Bommel... as interesting as that would be, i promise you Carmona won't start. If anything Il Faraone would get the nod over Carmona...
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Jan 8 2012, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Jan 8 2012, 02:29 AM)  as interesting as that would be, i promise you Carmona won't start. If anything Il Faraone would get the nod over Carmona... El Shaarawy has played for Milan only as forward/ss. And looking at how he plays, I think it's for the best to keep it that way, at least for now. AM gives more responsibility, responsibility you better can give to Robinho, or an actual midfielder like Carmona, Emanuelson and Boateng. And of course Carmona won't start, just posting what I would. Emanuelson is going to start at AM, or Robinho.
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Jan 8 2012, 02:16 AM
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How many times did you see him play again?
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Jan 8 2012, 02:10 PM
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This is a must win. Derby coming up and we must secure all 3 points. That said, I have some bad memories regarding our past clashes with Atalanta.
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Jan 8 2012, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jan 8 2012, 12:17 AM)  Who are the creative ball playing midfielders? Van Bommel is the only one. VAN BOMMEL
Can't you see how much either Montolivo or Merkel would add to that midfield?
And that's why I see it as a weak midfield, so I would play it safe and start with both Furby (AM) and Robinho (SS). QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jan 8 2012, 01:19 AM)  I see Carmona is called up. Let's start him at AM, and bench Emanuelson. I also don't see much in Emanuelson. Carmona seems the closest thing to what we miss in midfield. So: Carmona Nocerino , Van Bommel , Boateng Because if we going to play Robinho as AM, it will be runners, runners, and runners, oh, and Van Bommel... Are you freakin kidding me with this chu?? We need players who will make a difference, playing a youth player really won't make any sense as he would be easily bowled over by an Atalanta side who will play a very physical game. So what if we don't have a typically creative player in the midfield?? We still mostly rely on Ibra to create the goal opportunities, Aqui just keeps the ball moving, something Boateng will still manage to do without much trouble. And who's talking about Monto or Merkel?? They're not even part of the team! Our options are Urby or Robs, which is why EVERYONE here wants Robinho to start behind the strikers which would be the logical thing to do QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 8 2012, 01:18 AM)  I don't see how Emanuelson can make the difference. I my opinion it's better to play a midfield of classy workers and fighters without a true AM (which we're playing anyway all season long) then add in one half-decent and newly pronounced AM like Emanuelson. Agreed
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Jan 8 2012, 02:24 PM
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Atalanta-Milan: le formazioni ufficiali ATALANTA: Consigli, Masiello, Ferri, Manfredini, Peluso, Schelotto, Cigarini, Carmona, Padoin, Marilungo, Denis. MILAN: Abbiati, Bonera, Mexes, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta, Boateng, Van Bommel, Nocerino, Emanuelson, Pato, Ibrahimovic. Haha,X-off (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jan 8 2012, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Jan 8 2012, 02:24 PM)  Atalanta-Milan: le formazioni ufficiali ATALANTA: Consigli, Masiello, Ferri, Manfredini, Peluso, Schelotto, Cigarini, Carmona, Padoin, Marilungo, Denis. MILAN: Abbiati, Bonera, Mexes, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta, Boateng, Van Bommel, Nocerino, Emanuelson, Pato, Ibrahimovic. Haha,X-off (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) + :headslap: We'll see how long it takes for Allegri to realise his mistake and make the change. Like usual, typical Allegri
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Jan 8 2012, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Jan 8 2012, 02:50 PM)  i'm really looking forward to that midfield (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The midfield 3 would be a real test for the possibility of a Tevez, Ibra, Pato attack. But it's ruined with Urby there who won't be able to accomplish anything, Robinho should have started
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Jan 8 2012, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Jan 8 2012, 03:12 PM)  They're really bullying our players... Yes and someone want Valoti and Carmona to start, that would have gone over very well
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Jan 8 2012, 03:24 PM
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Penalty!!!
Pato hacked down. Hope he isn't injured. Looks in pain there
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Jan 8 2012, 03:25 PM
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IBRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Jan 8 2012, 03:26 PM
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btw, is Urby even playin? Haven't seen him yet (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Jan 8 2012, 03:27 PM
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Hmh, honestly, I wouldn't say it was a just penalty. Milan scored now 6 goals from penalties, Serie A record.
We lead, yet we didn't do anything. No possession, no build-up.
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Jan 8 2012, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 8 2012, 03:28 PM)  How many penalties this season? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) 6. But only one of them was a complately wrong decision
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Jan 8 2012, 03:33 PM
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The players really need to pick it up. I can't see us winning this at this rate
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Jan 8 2012, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE (m1ke @ Jan 8 2012, 03:39 PM)  Been impressed with Mexes so far. So far he's been perfect. What hasen't impressed me is that midfield, and our FBs are certainly not helping out the situation
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Jan 8 2012, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE (m1ke @ Jan 8 2012, 03:44 PM)  Yep, Atalanta winning in the midfield battle. And Zambro looks well off the pace. Bonera looks worse. While Zambro is being expected to push up since he's our only wide outlet, and he simply cannot do that anymore
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Jan 8 2012, 03:46 PM
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Giving them chances now
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Jan 8 2012, 03:49 PM
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Robinho just has to come on. His runs will at least create some spaces to work in for Ibra and Pato
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Jan 8 2012, 03:51 PM
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Emanuelson is a freakin' joke. The guy is obviously a side player, but Allegri seems to see a creative AM in him. What's next? Pippo doing the job?
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Jan 8 2012, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jan 8 2012, 06:32 AM)  QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 8 2012, 03:23 PM)  Are you freakin kidding me with this chu??
We need players who will make a difference, playing a youth player really won't make any sense as he would be easily bowled over by an Atalanta side who will play a very physical game.
So what if we don't have a typically creative player in the midfield?? We still mostly rely on Ibra to create the goal opportunities, Aqui just keeps the ball moving, something Boateng will still manage to do without much trouble.
And who's talking about Monto or Merkel?? They're not even part of the team! Our options are Urby or Robs, which is why EVERYONE here wants Robinho to start behind the strikers which would be the logical thing to do
Agreed So if it's such a bad idea, why are we all now complaining about Emanuelson, as usual?
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Jan 8 2012, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 8 2012, 03:51 PM)  Emanuelson is a freakin' joke. The guy is obviously a side player, but Allegri seems to see a creative AM in him. What's next? Pippo doing the job? I don't blame him, he's being played in a position where he clearly has no idea what the hell he's doing. Allegri just should not have played him there QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Jan 8 2012, 03:52 PM)  Or Stephan (IMG: style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) didn't he scored agaisnt Atalanta last year... I think Robinho would be the better option, he makes those runs that create a lot of space, and that is what we really need atm. I don't really feel that this is the right place for El Shaa to come on. Atalanta are very good imo, and don't forget unbeaten at home. If it's possible we need to score another goal and close up shop ASAP once the 2nd half begins
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Jan 8 2012, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Jan 8 2012, 03:54 PM)  So if it's such a bad idea, why are we all now complaining about Emanuelson, as usual? Isn't that what we were talking about to begin with?? That Urby shouldn't be starting in the AM position but Robinho should be the one for that role? Yet you prefer Urby/Valoti etc?
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Jan 8 2012, 03:58 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jan 8 2012, 03:56 PM)  Why isn't Pato allowed to take the penalties he's earned?! isn't Ibra taking a bit too many penalties this season? he's probably scored more goals from the spot than in regular play! I think Ibra is just the better taker... Pato will get goals like he usually does, but the way we're playing isn't really helping our strikers, not even Ibra, who at this point only has 6 goals from open play
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Jan 8 2012, 04:01 PM
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Jan 8 2012, 03:56 PM)  Why isn't Pato allowed to take the penalties he's earned?! isn't Ibra taking a bit too many penalties this season? he's probably scored more goals from the spot than in regular play! It's 6+6. In Italy players who earn the penalty don't shoot it out of superstition.
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Jan 8 2012, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jan 8 2012, 07:28 PM)  I think Ibra is just the better taker...
Pato will get goals like he usually does, but the way we're playing isn't really helping our strikers, not even Ibra, who at this point only has 6 goals from open play Yeah, buy all the strikers in the world, won't make much difference when you don't have a proper midfield with a proper AM/trequartista. QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jan 8 2012, 07:31 PM)  It's 6+6. In Italy players who earn the penalty don't shoot it out of superstition. Ibra does (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) you mean Italians?
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Jan 8 2012, 04:12 PM
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OH!! Off the post from Pato!
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Jan 8 2012, 04:17 PM
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Wow, how did they not score? Holding on.
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Jan 8 2012, 04:18 PM
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Denis off the post!
We're going to conceed is we don't watch it. They're inviting them to attack
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Jan 8 2012, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 8 2012, 03:24 PM)  Thought you had ESPN?
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Jan 8 2012, 04:25 PM
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Robinho coming on by the looks of it.
....yep, for Pato.
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Jan 8 2012, 04:37 PM
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Oh!!! So close from Ibra, just blocked!
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Jan 8 2012, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE (Milan Are Brilliant @ Jan 8 2012, 04:25 PM)  Robinho coming on by the looks of it.
....yep, for Pato. It's a great feat by Urby. I only know he's on the pitch because he's taking set-pieces. Yet Allegri keep him in there
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Jan 8 2012, 04:41 PM
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GOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Boateng!!!!!
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Jan 8 2012, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jan 8 2012, 03:31 PM)  My tv is having problems and my dad's watching the FA Cup downstairs. Ah fair enough. Yep, trust me to get something to eat... right at that moment in time. Thank god for Sky+! Great win, looked nervy but big, big win.
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