[han2503]

It's the big one. And the first time I've been optimistic about in a long time.

What I wish to see against Inter:

Amelia
Zambro--Nesta--Thiago--Antonini
Ambro
Flamini--Boateng
Pirlo
Ibra--Robinho

Abbiati has cost us too many goals in such a short period of time, it's time he sits his @ss down!

Abate has been doing good, but for this kind of game, he's someone I'd rather not play. Antonini is more stable, plus he won't have to face Maicon, cr@p as he's been lately he's still world class and can pull something out at any time.

Ambro in front of the defence is just amazing, it's where he should play, no more of this cr@p with Pirlo playing there trying to defend while the other mids are god knows where. Flamini and Boateng the obvious other choices, Flamini will keep it tight while still moving the ball around while Boateng is the energy we need to keep it moving. Please no Rino or Seedorf, or even Pirlo in that midfield 3. We need to beat Inter at their own game, their strength lies in the midfield. And we need to have muscle in there. Not Pirlo and Seedorf trying to twinkle toe their way in.

Pirlo the obvious choice as AM. Seedorf did well today, but he faded as soon as the clock hit 60.

Robinho is the obvious choice for such a high tempo game if Pato is injured, which I'm assuming he will be. Robinho's finishing is worrying, but hopefully today's goal will give him confidence.

[acid911]

You're on a roll, Han. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Let's make it count fellas, about time we tasted a win against the boys in blue!

[han2503]

You're on a roll, Han. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Let's make it count fellas, about time we tasted a win against the boys in blue!

Well I'm just hoping that I'll keep on rollin' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This is the first time in I don't know how long we're going into the derby top of the table and most importantly above Inter. Hopefully it will give us that mental push to win this.

[CHU-LIP]

Abate has been doing good, but for this kind of game, he's someone I'd rather not play. Antonini is more stable, plus he won't have to face Maicon, cr@p as he's been lately he's still world class and can pull something out at any time.

Han, I like your line-up, but Maicon RB, Abate RB, Antonini LB..... what makes you think Maicon and Antonini won't face each other while two RB's would? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

So yeah... Abate + Zambrotta should start... Abate has been doing well, he earns and should start.

[acid911]

Agreed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I wonder how much of that has to do with me posting right after you create the next thread. I did so in the last one or two you opened. I guess we'll find out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) At the end of the day, I just want a match worthy of the derby between the two clubs of the best footballing city in the world.

Lots of passion, skills, and intense atmosphere. Has been a while since we had that, 2008 actually.

[X-Offender]

As much as I'm doubtful of Pirlo's capacity to play as a trequartista, Ambrosini has been doing so well in front of the defense it'd be a pity to relieve him from there. So I'm going with han's line-up as well.

Abbiati has been awful lately, so picking Amelia would be only logic, though we all know it won't happen. Zambrotta usually plays well against the big sides, and I still trust Antonini more than Abate. Boateng and Flamini should be untouchable. If Allegri prefers Gattuso over any of them, he'd be making a huge mistake. They complement our midfield perfectly. And up forward, Ibra + Robinho is the only choice we have, considering Pato and Inzaghi are injured.

This post has been edited by X-Offender: Nov 11 2010, 02:34 AM

[milanbuf88]

As much as I'm doubtful of Pirlo's capacity to play as a trequartista, Ambrosini has been doing so well in front of the defense it'd be a pity to relieve him from there. So I'm going with han's line-up as well.

Abbiati has been awful lately, so picking Amelia would be only logic, though we all know it won't happen. Zambrotta usually plays well against the big sides, and I still trust Antonini more than Abate. Boateng and Flamini should be untouchable. If Allegri prefers Gattuso over any of them, he'd be making a huge mistake. They complement our midfield perfectly. And up forward, Ibra + Robinho is the only choice we have, considering Pato and Inzaghi are injured.

X, why do you doubt Pirlo as the treq? In my mind he can do at least as well as Zee or Dinho if not better. At this point in their careers he has more stamina than both and neither has blistering speed either. Its not like Pirlo isnt creative enough for the job. Wit Ambro, Flamini, and KPB we should have a mid that can lock down and provide Pirlo with some support for attack when needed too.

[Dracoris]

Can't say I dislike your lineup Han, but I must say it doesn't seem realistic. I think I'd prefer it actually (Especially Amelia).

Realistic looks like this, I think:

Abs
Abate Nesta Silva Antonini
Ambro Pirlo Boateng
Seedorf
Robinho Ibra

This is assuming Pato doesn't find fitness before the game.

[arivanjj]

theres no way allegri will bench abbiati =[ just praying he doesnt stuff it up in one of the most important matches of the season

[han2503]

Han, I like your line-up, but Maicon RB, Abate RB, Antonini LB..... what makes you think Maicon and Antonini won't face each other while two RB's would? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

So yeah... Abate + Zambrotta should start... Abate has been doing well, he earns and should start.

On paper it is RB vs RB, but on the field, if Maicon is playing on Inter's right and Antonini on our left, then Antonini has to be the one that handles Maicon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Agreed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I wonder how much of that has to do with me posting right after you create the next thread. I did so in the last one or two you opened. I guess we'll find out. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) At the end of the day, I just want a match worthy of the derby between the two clubs of the best footballing city in the world.

Lots of passion, skills, and intense atmosphere. Has been a while since we had that, 2008 actually.

Now don't try to take the credit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/swear1.gif) Also everyone remembers the topic starter, and no the one who posted the 2nd comment (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Can't say I dislike your lineup Han, but I must say it doesn't seem realistic. I think I'd prefer it actually (Especially Amelia).

Realistic looks like this, I think:

Abs
Abate Nesta Silva Antonini
Ambro Pirlo Boateng
Seedorf
Robinho Ibra

This is assuming Pato doesn't find fitness before the game.

Flamini simply cannot be dropped, Allegri would be mad to do so, also Seedorf for this game is asking for trouble. He couldn't handle more then a half yesterday against Palermo and the frist half was played at a really slow tempo. Imagine him trying to play 90 against Inter, such a high tempo game. He'd be dead by half time. also Pirlo is becoming a huge liability in that midfield 3 against strong teams. He needs to be moved forward, where all he has to worry about is creating, something that he's great at.

Also Abate is just not going to cut it for this game. Zambro, if he's fit, should be playing

[Jack Sparrow]

I suppose Oddo's still out? Part of me likes the idea of Abate going up against the much slower Chivu. Also like the idea of Pato on the right flank.

Do Flamini and KPB have the lungs to play 3 matches back to back. I don't think there is a problem with Rino starting and Ambro playing more box to box. KPB worried me a bit in that last match.

[han2503]

I suppose Oddo's still out? Part of me likes the idea of Abate going up against the much slower Chivu. Also like the idea of Pato on the right flank.

Do Flamini and KPB have the lungs to play 3 matches back to back. I don't think there is a problem with Rino starting and Ambro playing more box to box. KPB worried me a bit in that last match.

I bet you that Rino who hasn't played for an entire week would get tired before a Flamini or Boateng that have played every last 3 days.

Also Ambro is not a box-to-box, he makes an @ss out of himself trying to play that. He's a holding DM, play him there FFS.

If Pirlo is really out, play Dinho or Seedorf behind the strikers. As long as that midfield 3 is strong, energetic and keeps control of the midfield we won't have problems no matter who plays as the AM

[Jack Sparrow]

Well box-to-box is the wrong term. I meant someone who stays in and around to congest the mid-field area. Block passing lanes as well as who can get the ball and make a decent pass. Also Ambro's runs into the box are pretty good.

Rino can just stay and watch Sneijder and Coutinho.

[ForzaMaldini]

Han, I like your line-up, but Maicon RB, Abate RB, Antonini LB..... what makes you think Maicon and Antonini won't face each other while two RB's would? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

So yeah... Abate + Zambrotta should start... Abate has been doing well, he earns and should start.

Maicon is injured. Samuel as well. If Benitez choses for this lineup im gonna laugh SO hard!:

Santon - Lucio - Cordoba - Chivu

Cambiasso and Sneijder probebly will make the match. To bad, because their midfield is **** without those two. And I hope Zambrotta will return in time and leave Abate on the bench. Abate will not do well against Eto'o.

The 4-3-1-2 formation suits Milan very well. There is the right balance in this lineup. It's a formation where everyone gets the best out of himself (like Seedorf and Pato).
Abbiati has a bad run, leave him out!

I hope to see:

Amelia
Zambrotta - Nesta - Silva - Antonini
Flamini - Pirlo - Ambrosini
Seedorf (no other serious option)
Robinho - Ibra

Any news on Pato or Pippo btw?

[Jack Sparrow]

Totally cannot imagine going up against Inter without the fire of Rino and the steel of Ambro in there. By all means take Rino out in the 60th...but he needs to be there in the beginning.

And damn it...why Pippo..why??!!!!!! Pippo-Ibra with Robinho playing Energizer bunny is quickly becoming my attack of choice.

[Fillipo Simone]

Look how just few days ago we all tried to play it fair and spoke about the poor Inter with so many injuries. And now - we have the same problems.

[Jack Sparrow]

Good. Will make it a lot sweeter if we crush them. And a lot less bitter if they crush us. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[RinoIlCapitano]

Oh finally the ronaldinho debate finished and we are finally the top of the board with a great game to come. It is our first set ball (to early to mention match balls) and if we win we put them in even bigger trouble so the win is a 10 points play. About the lineup Binho and Ibra work really well and they shoved it a lot of time so i they will start for shure. About the midfield , Boa and Flamini should be untouchable like Ambro and pirlo but those are maybe too much because i think R80 will start. He crushed them once, he will do it again, so i think it would be a Ambro, Pirlo, Boa with R80 upfront (I already know all the opinions). For the defense i would prefer Zambro over Abate for the derby and other defenders that everyone want : So Zambro Nesta Thiago Antonini. And the final word I would really wanted to see Amelia between the post but this is pretty much impossible. We NEED the win so much.

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CHU-LIP]

On paper it is RB vs RB, but on the field, if Maicon is playing on Inter's right and Antonini on our left, then Antonini has to be the one that handles Maicon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Also Abate is just not going to cut it for this game. Zambro, if he's fit, should be playing

But you said:

Abate has been doing good, but for this kind of game, he's someone I'd rather not play. Antonini is more stable, plus he won't have to face Maicon, cr@p as he's been lately he's still world class and can pull something out at any time.

Or who is 'he'? I thought you meant Maicon there, since Antonini is and never has been world class. Now I'm really confused. Also: if you read my post clearly I said exactly the opposite from what you seem to have thought you read.

Also, I forgot that Maicon won't even play. Anyway, why don't you think Abate isn't good enough for this kind of game? He is doing good like you said, including against REAL MADRID's Cristiano Ronaldo. While Antonini has been poor this season with a lot of defensive liablities. Really... you are living, once again, in the past. Zambrotta needs to play, yes, agreed there, but instead of Antonini.

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Nov 11 2010, 02:27 PM

[Zed.D]

If we win this 6-pointer I say we will have completed like 20% of the road to the Scudetto.

[Fillipo Simone]

Oddo is still unavaible?

I'd rather see the Antonini-Zamborghini combo as well.

[samira]

We don't win an away derby since February 27, 2005..
I hope that will change !

[X-Offender]

Probable starting line-ups from Sportmediaset:

Inter (4-2-3-1): Julio Cesar; Santon, Lucio, Cordoba, Chivu; Zanetti, Stankovic; Sneijder, Eto'o, Pandev; Milito.

Milan (4-3-1-2): Abbiati; Abate, Thiago Silva, Nesta, Antonini; Flamini, Ambrosini, Gattuso; Seedorf; Robinho, Ibrahimovic.

Pato and Inzaghi won't be making it for sure, and it looks like Pirlo will be out as well. That said, our line-up looks good. But god, do we really have to play Gattuso? What does Allegri really see in this guy? We need at least a box-to-box in that midfield to support the attacking manoeuvre, and if you take off Boateng, we'd be stuck with Gattuso and Flamini to do that, who are both holding midfielders. Really, really bad choice. Our midfield was great against a tough side as Palermo, there's no need to change it FFS!!!

Regarding Inter, apart from the sure absences of Samuel and Maicon, Cambiasso shouldn't be making either, like Thiago Motta, Mariga and Muntari.

[CHU-LIP]

Has Zambrotta become third choice or isn't he fully fit?

Even though both Pirlo and Pato (for sure the latter) won't play, I'm still sort of confident. Seedorf and Ambrosini seem to be good backups for the positions Pirlo can play, and of course thankfully no Ronaldinho. Though, it really sucks that Pato is out for a decent time. Also one of our few forward backups (Pippo) is out for a long time, also not helping our case. With Zlatan and Robinho as our only forwards available our biggest issue might be finishing.

[han2503]

Totally cannot imagine going up against Inter without the fire of Rino and the steel of Ambro in there. By all means take Rino out in the 60th...but he needs to be there in the beginning.

And damn it...why Pippo..why??!!!!!! Pippo-Ibra with Robinho playing Energizer bunny is quickly becoming my attack of choice.

Why should we play Rino?? Boateng, Flamni and Ambro are all beter options. If Rino does play he will be a problem for us.

Oh finally the ronaldinho debate finished and we are finally the top of the board with a great game to come. It is our first set ball (to early to mention match balls) and if we win we put them in even bigger trouble so the win is a 10 points play. About the lineup Binho and Ibra work really well and they shoved it a lot of time so i they will start for shure. About the midfield , Boa and Flamini should be untouchable like Ambro and pirlo but those are maybe too much because i think R80 will start. He crushed them once, he will do it again, so i think it would be a Ambro, Pirlo, Boa with R80 upfront (I already know all the opinions). For the defense i would prefer Zambro over Abate for the derby and other defenders that everyone want : So Zambro Nesta Thiago Antonini. And the final word I would really wanted to see Amelia between the post but this is pretty much impossible. We NEED the win so much.

FORZA MILAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

If Dinho or Seedorf play then the midfield 3 behind them cannot contain Pirlo. Imo Seedorf and Dinho are both players I would avoid for this type of game. But since Pirlo is most likely out, one of them we start. Now I'm of the oppinion that as long as that midfield 3 is solid ie Boateng, Flamini and Ambro, then the AM choice won't really make that much difference since he won't have to work that hard , just keep his position close to the others

But you said:

Or who is 'he'? I thought you meant Maicon there, since Antonini is and never has been world class. Now I'm really confused. Also: if you read my post clearly I said exactly the opposite from what you seem to have thought you read.

I was referring to Maicon. Anyway, I don't understand how we've jumbled it up so much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Probable starting line-ups from Sportmediaset:

Inter (4-2-3-1): Julio Cesar; Santon, Lucio, Cordoba, Chivu; Zanetti, Stankovic; Sneijder, Eto'o, Pandev; Milito.

Milan (4-3-1-2): Abbiati; Abate, Thiago Silva, Nesta, Antonini; Flamini, Ambrosini, Gattuso; Seedorf; Robinho, Ibrahimovic.

Pato and Inzaghi won't be making it for sure, and it looks like Pirlo will be out as well. That said, our line-up looks good. But god, do we really have to play Gattuso? What does Allegri really see in this guy? We need at least a box-to-box in that midfield to support the attacking manoeuvre, and if you take off Boateng, we'd be stuck with Gattuso and Flamini to do that, who are both holding midfielders. Really, really bad choice. Our midfield was great against a tough side as Palermo, there's no need to change it FFS!!!

Regarding Inter, apart from the sure absences of Samuel and Maicon, Cambiasso shouldn't be making either, like Thiago Motta, Mariga and Muntari.

Imo that midfield will be our undoing. Rino, Ambro, Flamini? Come on! Rino cannot play. Just like against Bari, that midfield would struggle to hold the ball for longer then a couple of seconds, also how Allegri can justify playing Rino over any of those other 3 I'll never know!

Also if you're going to play Seedorf then he's going to need some help when pushing up, that's where boateng comes in. Rino will make a fool out of himself trying to move the ball forward, and chasing Sneijder or Eto'o down with no positive outcome. Seedorf I'm a bit worried about in terms of how long he'll last. Anyways if it's not working Dnho can come off the bench.

My point is, the attacking 3 doesn't matter, as long as Allegri gets that midfield 3 right, which just has to be Flamini, Ambro, Boateng. If he gets that right then the rest of the team will benefit. Especially the AM and Ibra and Robs

[kurtsimonw]

Not Rino, all I think of regarding him and Inter is that stupid red card and penalty given away.

[CHU-LIP]

Not Rino, all I think of regarding him and Inter is that stupid red card and penalty given away.

Is that all you can think of? Djee, no wonder. There is a huge difference between that Rino and current Rino.

[han2503]

Is that all you can think of? Djee, no wonder. There is a huge difference between that Rino and current Rino.

Not that much of a difference... Rino now, is not even part of the shadow of his former self. Imo he should do himself a favour and not tarnish his reputation by making a fool out of himself in such games

[CHU-LIP]

Not that much of a difference... Rino now, is not even part of the shadow of his former self. Imo he should do himself a favour and not tarnish his reputation by making a fool out of himself in such games

LOL, what? Not much of a difference?

1: it's pointless to compare players to what they have been, what's important is how they are now, and Gattuso is much better than he was last season. He went from our worst midfielder to one of our best midfielders. Though, we seem to have many good midfielders, it's hard to pick. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

It's not like other midfielders in our current squad are as good as that famous former Rino you're talking about.

2: Gattuso did make a fool out of himself last season, but this season is different. Gattuso is far from making a fool out of himself this season, and I don't see why he would coming weekend. When it comes to defensive duties Gattuso is our best bet (when it comes to our midfielders) which is very important against a side like Inter, so Gattuso is no problem (seriously guys), but someone who you should consider to start vs Inter. Of course feel free to conclude that it's better to start with Flamini, Ambrosini, Seedorf and Boateng (assuming Pirlo can't start) as our midfielders, because I see the reasons why to start them over Gattuso, but I also see the reasons why to start Gattuso over other midfielders we got. Some of you guys are really too harsh on Gattuso.

[han2503]

LOL, what? Not much of a difference?

1: it's pointless to compare players to what they have been, what's important is how they are now, and Gattuso is much better than he was last season. He went from our worst midfielder to one of our best midfielders. Though, we seem to have many good midfielders, it's hard to pick. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

It's not like other midfielders in our current squad are as good as that famous former Rino you're talking about.

2: Gattuso did make a fool out of himself last season, but this season is different. Gattuso is far from making a fool out of himself this season, and I don't see why he would coming weekend. When it comes to defensive duties Gattuso is our best bet (when it comes to our midfielders) which is very important against a side like Inter, so Gattuso is no problem (seriously guys), but someone who you should consider to start vs Inter. Of course feel free to conclude that it's better to start with Flamini, Ambrosini, Seedorf and Boateng (assuming Pirlo can't start) as our midfielders, because I see the reasons why to start them over Gattuso, but I also see the reasons why to start Gattuso over other midfielders we got. Some of you guys are really too harsh on Gattuso.

1. It is pointless. But this Rino you're talking about is not that good. Which seriously pains me to say. The man chases shadows for practically 90 minutes straight. Lets mediocre players nutmeg him, etc. This Rino is not good enough to be a starter for us, and certainly not one of the best mid we have. Flamini, Boateng and Ambro are all better choices, for hundreds of reasons. Aside from you and Wacko Jacko, no one wants Rino to be starting, we saw what happened against Real, for all his heart and passion, Real kept slicing our midfield like hot knife through butter, simply because Rino couldn't keep up and do his job.

2. Rno made a fool out of himself this season as well in the big games. You talk and talk about not wanting Dinho anywhere near the pitch in the big games, but I really don't understand how you would want Rino playing in such games, and imo the DM poisition is a far more crucial position then the AM. Rino losing the ball in a bad area, or him letting someone like Sneijder or C.Ron run through him (which he did) and we've got serious problems

[CHU-LIP]

Of course you don't mention about Gattuso winning the ball so often, etc. And hello? If one player is a problem it's Ronaldinho. I understand you prefer others over Gattuso, but to say he's not good enough? Come on...

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Nov 11 2010, 07:52 PM

[han2503]

Of course you don't mention about Gattuso winning the ball so often, etc. And hello? If one player is a problem it's Ronaldinho. And also, Boateng hasn't really showed to be a better choice than Gattuso, the opposite is true. I understand you prefer others over Gattuso, but to say he's not good enough? Come on...

The number of times Rino won the ball, I can count on one hand. How is that good enough for the DM? Pirlo probably won more balls then him!! If you see Dinho as a problem, an attacker, then I seriously don't understand how you wouldn't view Rino as a problem. He plays in one of the most crucial positions. Dinho plays like cr@p? We have trouble scoring. Rino plays like cr@p? We conceed... I'd rather not score then conceed if it really came down to a choice. Just for the record, I think both are problematic in top games (Dinho and Rino, Seedorf as well, but we have our backs to the walls with Pirlo and Pato out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) If it were up to me non of those 3 would be playing in the Inter match). Inter fans are hoping for Rino to play, that should be enough to convince you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

You were singing Boateng's praises just a couple of weeks ago, he's been doing great and really gives us that final ingredient we were missing in midfield. Rino when compared to Flamini and Ambro, has no business being on that pitch, unless both are injured. If you go back through threads you will see the countless arguments me and kurt had about Rino, but sadly Rino is no longer good enough to be a starter for us. Especially when we have such better options to play instead of him. Also Rino vs Boateng shouldn't really come into this, since both are completely different players.

[servbot]

I would prefer Gattuso to start over Boateng in this match. It's going to sound strange since Gattuso got the red card last year, but I think Boateng might be a little too reckless in a match of this pressure, and much more of a red card threat. I say let the experienced Gattuso bring it in the first half and have Boateng come in when Gattuso runs out of gas, at a point where he's seen the match/atmosphere/tempo from the sideline and hopefully is able to get in the flow of it easier than at start.

[CHU-LIP]

First of all, it's so annoying I only see you reading this topic after you posted, that's annoying when it comes to editing my posts. I edited the Boateng part away, because indeed he has been good, though Gattuso has been even better IMO (and I prefer Flamini over Prince, at least for now), but I agree they are different players. That's also a reason why I edited it away.

Dinho plays like cr@p? We have trouble scoring. Rino plays like cr@p? We conceed...

Huge difference is that Dinho plays cr@p all the time, while Rino does rarely (this season), and when Ronaldinho plays cr@p it causes A WHOLE LOT more than just us having trouble scoring. In fact, playing Dinho makes our whole team, mainly our midfield, and therefore also our attack, play like cr@p.

_________________________________________

I would prefer Gattuso to start over Boateng in this match. It's going to sound strange since Gattuso got the red card last year, but I think Boateng might be a little too reckless in a match of this pressure, and much more of a red card threat. I say let the experienced Gattuso bring it in the first half and have Boateng come in when Gattuso runs out of gas, at a point where he's seen the match/atmosphere/tempo from the sideline and hopefully is able to get in the flow of it easier than at start.

It doesn't sound strange at all. Those are very good reasons I have been thinking about also.

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Nov 11 2010, 08:03 PM

[han2503]

I would prefer Gattuso to start over Boateng in this match. It's going to sound strange since Gattuso got the red card last year, but I think Boateng might be a little too reckless in a match of this pressure, and much more of a red card threat. I say let the experienced Gattuso bring it in the first half and have Boateng come in when Gattuso runs out of gas, at a point where he's seen the match/atmosphere/tempo from the sideline and hopefully is able to get in the flow of it easier than at start.

So you want a Rino, Ambro, Flamini 3 man mid against Inter? Uneccaptable imo. That midfield won't be able to control the tempo, simply because non of them are ball players, all are destroyers. Which would be a big problem, against BARI we conceeded twice while playing those 3, simply because we had no control over the tempo of the game, against Palermo we had complete control simply because of the midfield3 we had in place and only conceeded because of Abbiati

First of all, it's so annoying I only see you reading this topic after you posted, that's annoying when it comes to editing my posts. I edited the Boateng part away, because indeed he has been good, though Gattuso has been even better IMO (and I prefer Flamini over Prince, at least for now), but I agree they are different players. That's also a reason why I edited it away.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) It's not my problem that you're slow (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Huge difference is that Dinho plays cr@p all the time, while Rino does rarely (this season), and when Ronaldinho plays cr@p it causes A WHOLE LOT more than just us having trouble scoring. In fact, playing Dinho makes our whole team, mainly our midfield, and therefore also our attack, play like cr@p.

Imo that problem was so far from Dinho/Seedorf/Robinho related. Before when we had that Pirlo, Boateng, Rino midfield we played every option at AM, never really worked, why? Not because of Seedorf, Dinho or Robinho. It was precisely because of the 3 behind them. Seedorf barely ran against Palermo, but he looked good, why when before he looked like cr@p? because those 3 behind him quickly won the ball, covered him, moved the ball quickly to his feet and Boateng and Flamini were always available to him when he ran forward. All of this is something we didn't see when we had Pirlo, Rino and Boateng. You had Pirlo defending, Rino doing god knows what and Boa running like a headless chicken all over the place. Thus the AM, no matter who that is would find it tough, Dinho/Seedorf/Robinho dropping behind the circle to try and get a touch? Never going to work. Imo it wasn't the players but the system.

Rino is good for the smaller games, I have no trouble with it if Allegi wants to rest someone, but please for the love of everything pure in this world, don't play him against Inter!! I want to win this so bad like you wouldn't believe!! I know some Inter fans that are going to the San Siro, I want them to come back disappointed and miserable (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[CHU-LIP]

I know some Inter fans that are going to the San Siro, I want them to come back disappointed and miserable (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Agreed, great post, han. Great post. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

[han2503]

Agreed, great post, han. Great post. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) Don't think I ever read that from you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

[Boban10]

The midfield 3 from last night needs to start again, they were solid, mobile and did control most of the game. Rino can be back up.

Also i feel Amelia should be given a start, Abbiati is very shaky just now. I am losing confidence in him game by game.

Ibra Robbie upfront. Pato and Pippo out, saddens me a lot but it will be interesting to see which forwards come onto the bench.

This post has been edited by Boban10: Nov 11 2010, 08:46 PM

[RinoIlCapitano]

If Dinho or Seedorf play then the midfield 3 behind them cannot contain Pirlo. Imo Seedorf and Dinho are both players I would avoid for this type of game. But since Pirlo is most likely out, one of them we start. Now I'm of the oppinion that as long as that midfield 3 is solid ie Boateng, Flamini and Ambro, then the AM choice won't really make that much difference since he won't have to work that hard , just keep his position close to the others

Just because the forth midfielder or the AM wont have a hard work Roni should start because whenever he started he made few assists but never really helped to defend but in the attack he is still good. And pirlo and Roni can apsolutelly play together but pirlo should play the DM then and not always put everything on dinhos shoulders because lets be honest pirlo never defend so well because he likes to play with the ball in his feet , so this isnt just ronis problems this is a little bit deeper. Bah, simply it is not important who plays because they are all big players but they just have to give everything on the pitch and the result will come for sure, i just hate watching Pirlo and Dinho and Seedorf walking in the moment the teams are pressing us, or even better when they have the ball and those three just watching, this is my only problem with them, for other things, they are unique.

[han2503]

Just because the forth midfielder or the AM wont have a hard work Roni should start because whenever he started he made few assists but never really helped to defend but in the attack he is still good. And pirlo and Roni can apsolutelly play together but pirlo should play the DM then and not always put everything on dinhos shoulders because lets be honest pirlo never defend so well because he likes to play with the ball in his feet , so this isnt just ronis problems this is a little bit deeper. Bah, simply it is not important who plays because they are all big players but they just have to give everything on the pitch and the result will come for sure, i just hate watching Pirlo and Dinho and Seedorf walking in the moment the teams are pressing us, or even better when they have the ball and those three just watching, this is my only problem with them, for other things, they are unique.

In the big games only one of Dinho. Seedorf or Pirlo can play imo. And the obvious choice there is Pirlo.

For smaller games where the tempo is really set by us, and the opposing teams park the bus then I'm ok with Pirlo replacing Boateng in midfield and Dinho or Seedorf playing the AM position, but for such big games, we need to have that muscle as well as energy and stamina in midfield. Thus it shouldn't contain Pirlo. Pirlo should be up relieved of defensive duties and only focuses on creating. While the midfield 3 work hard around him

[RinoIlCapitano]

In the big games only one of Dinho. Seedorf or Pirlo can play imo. And the obvious choice there is Pirlo.

For smaller games where the tempo is really set by us, and the opposing teams park the bus then I'm ok with Pirlo replacing Boateng in midfield and Dinho or Seedorf playing the AM position, but for such big games, we need to have that muscle as well as energy and stamina in midfield. Thus it shouldn't contain Pirlo. Pirlo should be up relieved of defensive duties and only focuses on creating. While the midfield 3 work hard around him

I totally disagree, we should understand him while he is not defending but we are killing Seedorf and Roni while they are not defending and they shouldnt play because pirlo isnt defending. I think he would defend if Mou would coach him. We have double criteria here, we cant justify pirlo for the same thing we kill Roni and Seedorf. I agree Pirlo should play but i dont understand the thinking, why he shouldnt defend? He is a midfielder, creative but he still needs to cover the player.

[milanbuf88]

I totally disagree, we should understand him while he is not defending but we are killing Seedorf and Roni while they are not defending and they shouldnt play because pirlo isnt defending. I think he would defend if Mou would coach him. We have double criteria here, we cant justify pirlo for the same thing we kill Roni and Seedorf. I agree Pirlo should play but i dont understand the thinking, why he shouldnt defend? He is a midfielder, creative but he still needs to cover the player.

Pirlo defends all the time. Especially when Gattuso plays and leaves him all alone at the back because he goes on horrible and futile runs. He shouldnt have to defend because we have four other midfielders who are more physically capable when they do what they are supposed to.

[il_diavolo_mtl]

Pirlo defends all the time. Especially when Gattuso plays and leaves him all alone at the back because he goes on horrible and futile runs. He shouldnt have to defend because we have four other midfielders who are more physically capable when they do what they are supposed to.

LOL i love it. it's soooo true. Gattuso should have retired after 2007... this is just overkill

[Jack Sparrow]

Rino will not be playing in the usual box to box role. He will be playing as a pure DM who doesn't deviate more than 10 yards from the centre circle.

I'm pretty confident it will work. In the last match KPB was the one person who looked like upsetting the balance when we were defending, simply because he was nowhere to be seen. I keep wondering why people see him running like mad and thinking he's got great energy..when the fact is he's doing it to cover the spaces left over.

In any case, it's a toss up for me between Flamini and KPB. One of them will start from the bench.


-------------DEFENCE-----------------
---------------Rino--------------------
-----Ambro----------Flam/KPB-------
-------------Zee/R80------------------
--------------------------Robinho-------
------------Ibra-------------------------


If Pirlo is fit, I'd play him and Robinho/R80 in a 4-3-2-1 formation...with Ibra as sole striker. Robinho will definitely need to drop deep in our match.

[CrazyMilanFan]

Rino will not be playing in the usual box to box role. He will be playing as a pure DM who doesn't deviate more than 10 yards from the centre circle.

I'm pretty confident it will work. In the last match KPB was the one person who looked like upsetting the balance when we were defending, simply because he was nowhere to be seen. I keep wondering why people see him running like mad and thinking he's got great energy..when the fact is he's doing it to cover the spaces left over.

In any case, it's a toss up for me between Flamini and KPB. One of them will start from the bench.


-------------DEFENCE-----------------
---------------Rino--------------------
-----Ambro----------Flam/KPB-------
-------------Zee/R80------------------
--------------------------Robinho-------
------------Ibra-------------------------


If Pirlo is fit, I'd play him and Robinho/R80 in a 4-3-2-1 formation...with Ibra as sole striker. Robinho will definitely need to drop deep in our match.

at at rino place for me and flamini and kpb the remaining 2 in midfield.... then i think ibra should play behind the main stiker but if it is robinho not too sure bcoz robinho has been terrible with finishing..

[Jack Sparrow]

What main striker? It turns out Robinho and Ibra are the only strikers we have left. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Pato and Pippo are out.

[CrazyMilanFan]

What main striker? It turns out Robinho and Ibra are the only strikers we have left. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Pato and Pippo are out.

yea for this match ibra should play closer to goal but in general i think he should be behind the other stiker. had robinho not been missing those stitter i would have played him ahead of ira but we cant afford to miss any of face to face chances against inter

[Zed.D]

Robinho's finishing is terrible these days. so is Ibra's. if there's anyone who can score for us, it's Ambro.

[han2503]

Rino will not be playing in the usual box to box role. He will be playing as a pure DM who doesn't deviate more than 10 yards from the centre circle.

I'm pretty confident it will work. In the last match KPB was the one person who looked like upsetting the balance when we were defending, simply because he was nowhere to be seen. I keep wondering why people see him running like mad and thinking he's got great energy..when the fact is he's doing it to cover the spaces left over.

In any case, it's a toss up for me between Flamini and KPB. One of them will start from the bench.

How is it a toss up Jack? Rino has been average at best while Flamini in my eyes has more then done enough to steel Rino's place in the line-up. Also a 3 man midfield with 3 DMs should never happen, just too much destroyers, and no one who can really play the ball around, control the tempo etc. KPB is the final missing piece to that.

[CHU-LIP]

Flamini indeed has been doing very well, while Boateng not so much lately. Not saying he has done bad, but others have done better. What you guys want from Boateng, Flamini is doing it better. So Flamini needs to play, while Boateng, not necessary. I prefer Gattuso, he and Flamini are beasts, I like that against Inter. Since we have no Pirlo, it has to be Ambrosini in his position, and Seedorf as AM. So my preference goes to Seedorf in front of Flamini, Ambrosini and Gattuso(or MAYBE Boateng - both options are fine to me, as long no Dinho starts of course).

[han2503]

Flamini indeed has been doing very well, while Boateng not so much lately. Not saying he has done bad, but others have done better. What you guys want from Boateng, Flamini is doing it better. So Flamini needs to play, while Boateng, not necessary. I prefer Gattuso, he and Flamini are beasts, I like that against Inter. Since we have no Pirlo, it has to be Ambrosini in his position, and Seedorf as AM. So my preference goes to Seedorf in front of Flamini, Ambrosini and Gattuso(or MAYBE Boateng - both options are fine to me, as long no Dinho starts of course).

No, I'm sorry but that midfield wouldn't do, 3 DMs?? It would make our play in the midfield stagnant, we won't be able to hold possession just like against Bari or control the tempo of the game, and Seedorf will need a lot more help in the attacking department, Boateng can push up better then anyone. 3 DMs is just ridiculous, normal teams play 1 and you want to play 3?

Ambro as the holding mid with Flamini sweeping up and Boateng being that someone that drives the midfield forward and helps Seedorf out. Seedorf won't be able to drop back and try to retrieve the ball because the ones behind him are unable to give it to him.

Flamini, Ambro, Rino is over kill and jst plain unnacessary

[X-Offender]

Han is exactly right, guys. With Ambro, Rino and Flamini, you have three abile but static DMs. Creativity gets reduced to nothing, and moreover, we'll be constantly seeing Gattuso in Inter's defensive midfield, which is equal to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/puke.gif) .

And that's where you're wrong Jack. Rino *will* be playing as box-to-box. If you haven't yet noticed, in Allegri's playing style, the two side midfielders attack and defend at the same time. And while Flamini is very capable of playing such a role, Gattuso can't do it for the love of god. If I was ever to play Gattuso, I'd relegate him in front of the defense and leave to Ambro the offensive/defensive duties, because he's much more capable of doing it than Rino.

That said, I'd never play Gattuso, and play the same trio of Palermo against Inter. Like I've already mentioned, Boateng and Flamini complement our midfield perfectly. There is no need to bench any of them, especially not in favor of a half-baked cookie as Gattuso. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[Coldest]

Guys, what about Dinho ?? We have to give him a chance.

[William405]

Well,We'll see what happens.I have a feeling Allegri will give him a chance to start in the derby,and if he doesn't do well then Seedorf can come in and fill his place.I want him to play of course,because without him,the match is just not the same.But,if it hinders the team's balance then ok :S

[X-Offender]

Guys, what about Dinho ?? We have to give him a chance.

Who? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Dinho's already prepared his bags for LA. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Coldest]

Who? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Dinho's already prepared his bags for LA. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I don't think Silvio will let him away that easily, do you ?

[X-Offender]

I don't think Silvio will let him away that easily, do you ?

Oh, he will, you'll see that. After all, I don't think Silvio is willing to pay €8 million every season to someone who warms the bench, do you?

[han2503]

Guys, what about Dinho ?? We have to give him a chance.

Seedorf deserves his spot, if things aren't going well with him Dinho can always come in. At X-Off, until the summer Dinho and Seedorf are our only options at AM and Seedorf isn't going to play every 3 days, and imo both are at the same level. So let's not start jumping to conclusions (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[X-Offender]

Seedorf deserves his spot.

Oh my!!! Is this really han, or did some turtle-esque demon possess his spirit? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[han2503]

Oh my!!! Is this really han, or did some turtle-esque demon possess his spirit? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Come on! I'm going on what I see, when I defend Dinho it's only because what I see from you strikes me as biased in comparison to his performances and the factors sarrounding it.

Seedorf played a great game against Palermo, I attribute this mostly to the midfield 3 behind him, which always supported him, won the ball quickly and gave it to his feet and he didn't really have to work that much. Imo Dinho given that kind of support would probably play it better then Seedorf since he's a far more creative player. BUT having said that as long as Seedorf keeps playing this way then Dinho has no right to take back the spot. The moment Seedorf starts playing badly the Dinho can step in. The position is there for both of them to fight for, competition for places is great before neither of these players who have a tendency to get lazy and rest on their laurels had to fight for their position, they were automatic picks, which was the problem. Now whoever want to play has to fight for the slot.

Also if it's not working against Inter, Dinho can come in.

[X-Offender]

But I remember you complaining of how Seedorf disappeared after the 70' mark and we should play Pirlo instead of him etc.

I too think Seedorf has been great in these last two games, and that's probably to the fact that he's been well supported by our strong midfield. Who knows, maybe this will last more than just 2-3 games. Hopefully.

[han2503]

But I remember you complaining of how Seedorf disappeared after the 70' mark and we should play Pirlo instead of him etc.

I too think Seedorf has been great in these last two games, and that's probably to the fact that he's been well supported by our strong midfield. Who knows, maybe this will last more than just 2-3 games. Hopefully.

Well he did... I still think Pirlo should start ahead of both him and Dinho in these types of high tempo games, but Pirlo is out so...

Seedorf was trying to walk the game after a certain point, he was dead tired, even after not having to do all that much hard work because of that midfield behind him, but getting tired in the 2nd half does not dether from the contribution.

Like I said, he's not going to be able to play every 3 days, against the smaller teams Pirlo can move into the midfield 3 and Dihno and Seedorf fight for that position (especially since smaller teams like to park the bus so that extra hard man in the midfield won't reallt be necassary). But like I said as long as Seedorf does well he can keep the position, if he's not Dinho can come in and if he also does well he can keep the position until he underperforms. Healthy competition for places is what we need in this team. Players being happy to jog around in one match simply because they are assured of playing the next just cannot continue anymore.

Dinho last season only started to play well after he was benched. Now Seedorf was benched for a few games, he was picked and he's started to play well again. That midfield 3 allows for the slow AM, which is why I think we can go through this season and cover that hole at AM without much difficuilty

[William405]

Pirlo's not available,we don't have any choice other than Seedorf.Although,Allegri may have been saving Dinho for this match,who knows.

[han2503]

Pirlo's not available,we don't have any choice other than Seedorf.Although,Allegri may have been saving Dinho for this match,who knows.

Playing Dinho now wouldn't really be fair to Seedorf. If he's having trouble in the game, then by all means throw Dinho in, but until then Seedorf should and will most likely keep his position

[X-Offender]

I just wish Allegri would play Boateng instead of Gattuso. KPB gives me a lot of assurance, both from a tactical and technical point of view. I think he should always be a starter along with Flamini. Ambro and Rino are too old to be playing on a constant basis. When will we finally learn to bench old guys?

[X-Offender]

Updates on Inter's line-up:

4-3-1-2: Julio Cesar; Cordoba, Lucio, Materazzi, Chivu; Stankovic, Zanetti, Obi, Sneijder; Eto'o, Milito.

Link

[pacang]

the menace? that's just great.. provoking will be his mission on the field..

[ForzaMaldini]

Updates on Inter's line-up:

4-3-1-2: Julio Cesar; Cordoba, Lucio, Materazzi, Chivu; Stankovic, Zanetti, Obi, Sneijder; Eto'o, Milito.

Link

Haha, Matterazzi!! Thought we might miss Pato and Pippo for this match, but its all oke now. Keep it up Benitez!

[MizNelson]

Oh, he will, you'll see that. After all, I don't think Silvio is willing to pay €8 million every season to someone who warms the bench, do you?

Even if it's his pet project?

[Coldest]

I think our attack should be:

------------------------Ibra-----------------
-----------------Dinho------Binho----------

This post has been edited by Coldest: Nov 13 2010, 12:49 PM

[CHU-LIP]

I think our attack should be:

------------------------Ibra-----------------
-----------------Dinho------Binho----------

No. Then you would make the same mistake Milan have been making over and over again against especially Inter. We need to play with four midfielders. Our attack should be Zlatan with Robinho, and Seedorf as AM (Pirlo won't start, right?). FFS I want Milan to be balanced and not getting humilated against Inter for a change.

[han2503]

No. Then you would make the same mistake Milan have been making over and over again against especially Inter. We need to play with four midfielders. Our attack should be Zlatan with Robinho, and Seedorf as AM (Pirlo won't start, right?). FFS I want Milan to be balanced and not getting humilated against Inter for a change.

You want us to be balanced yet you're ok with playing Rino, Flamini, Ambro in the same mid? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Also, coldest's line-up would be a xmas tree formation, thus a 5 man midfield with Zlatan as the single point of focus in attack

For me, as long as we play Flamini, Boateng and Ambo in midfield, we'll be balanced. That's all I'm hoping for

[CHU-LIP]

You want us to be balanced yet you're ok with playing Rino, Flamini, Ambro in the same mid? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Also, coldest's line-up would be a xmas tree formation, thus a 5 man midfield with Zlatan as the single point of focus in attack

For me, as long as we play Flamini, Boateng and Ambo in midfield, we'll be balanced. That's all I'm hoping for

You really think a team existing of Flamini, Boateng, Ambrosini, Ronaldinho, Robinho and Ibrahimovic will be balanced against Inter?

A 5 man midfield? Ronaldinho? Nah...

[han2503]

You really think a team existing of Flamini, Boateng, Ambrosini, Ronaldinho, Robinho and Ibrahimovic will be balanced against Inter?

A 5 man midfield? Ronaldinho? Nah...

The midfield 3 is what counts, Seedorf barely moved a muscle when he didn't have the ball against Palermo, he didn't track back, didn't close anyone down etc, yet he looked good, why? The 3 behind him covered him and relieved him of doing that work.

Either way, a 4-3-2-1 wouldn't be a bad idea, But like I said yesterday, the midfield and attack that went out against Palermo (aside from Pato) should get to keep their place, simply because they deserve it, if it's not working Dinho can come off the bench, Seedorf can be moved back, etc, we have options if we're struggling that's the important thing.

But like I said the chosen attacking trio doesn't matter to me as long at the midfield 3 in the one thatplayed against Palermo, because those hold the key to the balance and not who plays at AM or where Robinho plays.

[CHU-LIP]

The midfield 3 is what counts, Seedorf barely moved a muscle when he didn't have the ball against Palermo, he didn't track back, didn't close anyone down etc, yet he looked good, why? The 3 behind him covered him and relieved him of doing that work.

I disagree. The AM counts ALSO, and a lot. And Seedorf does more than Ronaldinho in our midfield. You just don't notice it.

[han2503]

I disagree. The AM counts ALSO, and a lot. And Seedorf does more than Ronaldinho in our midfield. You just don't notice it.

Did you really watch the Palermo game?? I'm not even talking about Dinho, don't bring him into this. I'm talking about the midfield 3, all Seedorf had to do was to stay close to them so that he was always available for the pass. He didn't really defend or close anyone down, and imo he did the right thing, because an AM shouldn't be trying to close anyone down or track back unless absolutely necassary, he shouldn't be wasting away behind the center circle trying to chase down the ball because the players behind him are not doing their jobs!

Did you ever see Rui Costa or Kaka track back or close anyone down under Carlo? No, simply becayse they had a top midfield behind them who did their jobs right. Now we can have the same thing. No matter who the AM is, you're making this into a Dinho thing when it has nothing to do with him. Be happy for once that we have a system in midfield that actually works, yes we play a 4-3-1-2 but for all intents and purposes it's 3 midfielders and 3 attackers, and what's really important is to have a balance in that midfield, if not it could get easily over run

[CHU-LIP]

Be happy for once that we have a system in midfield that actually works, yes we play a 4-3-1-2 but for all intents and purposes it's 3 midfielders and 3 attackers, and what's really important is to have a balance in that midfield, if not it could get easily over run

I'm happy with that, yes. And I believe that is made possible by benching Ronaldinho. I disagree about it being 3 mids, and 3 attackers. It would have been w/Dinho, but w/Seedorf it's w/4 midfielders.

I'm talking about the midfield 3, all Seedorf had to do was to stay close to them so that he was always available for the pass. He didn't really defend or close anyone down, and imo he did the right thing, because an AM shouldn't be trying to close anyone down or track back unless absolutely necassary, he shouldn't be wasting away behind the center circle trying to chase down the ball because the players behind him are not doing their jobs!

Well, that's one thing of the many Seedorf does better than Dinho which is very important (key).

I'm not saying Seedorf does a lot of those other stuff, but more than Dinho. The way Seedorf plays at AM is better for the team than the way Dinho plays at AM. That's for sure, and it affects the whole team.

[Rossoneri7]

I disagree !

[han2503]

I disagree !

With whom? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[han2503]

I'm happy with that, yes. And I believe that is made possible by benching Ronaldinho. I disagree about it being 3 mids, and 3 attackers. It would have been w/Dinho, but w/Seedorf it's w/4 midfielders.


Well, that's one thing of the many Seedorf does better than Dinho which is very important (key).

I'm not saying Seedorf does a lot of those other stuff, but more than Dinho. The way Seedorf plays at AM is better for the team than the way Dinho plays at AM. That's for sure, and it affects the whole team.

If Dinho or even Robinho are given such instructions then they'll do the same, it has nothing to do with Seedorf. For example, against Real we were playing a clear 4-3-3 at the start, if Allegri gave Dinho those instructions then he'll follow them. If Allegri tells Seedorf to stay close to the other mids so he's available then he'll do just that. It has nothing to do with the player himself, but with the system a coach deploys

Also, name one occasion where Seedorf actually tried to close Palermo down in midfield. There wasn't and imo for an AM there shouldn't be any of these occasions unless we have our backs to the walls. Wanting Seedorf or Dinho to track back, and do grunt work in the midfield just doesn't make any sense, they should do what Seedorf did, which is to make himself available for the midfield when we have the ball

[Rossoneri7]

With whom? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

With this match

[Fillipo Simone]

Again...talking about Milan...ooops, Ronaldinho that is.
(IMG:http://crazyprofile.com/pictures/images/ronaldinho01.jpg)

[Boban10]

Massimiliano Allegri called up the following 20 Rossoneri for Inter-Milan:

Abbiati, Amelia, Antonini, Bonera, Jankulovski, Nesta, Papastathopoulos, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta, Yepes, Abate, Ambrosini, Boateng, Flamini, Gattuso, Pirlo, Seedorf, Ibrahimovic, Robinho, Ronaldinho.

Not available: Oddo, Inzaghi, Oduamadi, Pato.
Not called up: Montelongo, Onyewu, Strasser.

http://www.acmilan.com/en/news/show/130696

forgot source (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Pirlo available, good but no other strikers called up?!?! Not even one incase of a nightmare scenario? Seems a bit short sighted, but fingers crossed for tomorrow.

(I would have threw in Verdi or Beretta if they are fit and available).

This post has been edited by Boban10: Nov 13 2010, 07:56 PM

[CHU-LIP]

Pirlo available, good but no other strikers called up?!?! Not even one incase of a nightmare scenario? Seems a bit short sighted, but fingers crossed for tomorrow.

(I would have threw in Verdi or Beretta if fit).

Allegri rather calls up 9 defenders than a 3rd forward.

[RinoIlCapitano]

Again...talking about Milan...ooops, Ronaldinho that is.
(IMG:http://crazyprofile.com/pictures/images/ronaldinho01.jpg)

x2, the greatest player ever (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) !!! He will decide the derby and than everyone will be smart again and find something he didnt do well!

[RinoIlCapitano]

ops, i forgot, he will decide the derby AGAIN!

[X-Offender]

I think our attack should be:

------------------------Ibra-----------------
-----------------Dinho------Binho----------

You really should stop seeing this from a fanboy point of view and realize that playing Ronaldinho right now would do no good to our game.

Han, no matter how you see it, Seedorf is more a midfielder than Ronaldinho will ever be. The team will always be more balanced and compact when he's playing than when Dinho's playing. And I don't agree that he doesn't backtrack at all. He knows how to position himself when we're defending.

And I'm really not trying to make this into another anti-Ronaldinho argument, I'm just saying what I rationally believe.

Anyway, it looks like we'll be playing Gattuso--Pirlo--Ambrosini tomorrow. Not good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[han2503]

You really should stop seeing this from a fanboy point of view and realize that playing Ronaldinho right now would do no good to our game.

Han, no matter how you see it, Seedorf is more a midfielder than Ronaldinho will ever be. The team will always be more balanced and compact when he's playing than when Dinho's playing. And I don't agree that he doesn't backtrack at all. He knows how to position himself when we're defending.

And I'm really not trying to make this into another anti-Ronaldinho argument, I'm just saying what I rationally believe.

Anyway, it looks like we'll be playing Gattuso--Pirlo--Ambrosini tomorrow. Not good. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Well I don't want to get into it again so let's all agree to disagree

Gazzetta have put up a xmas tree as the propable line-up, with Dinho and Seedorf behind Ibra, which imo is a big problem, Seedorf OR Dinho would be ok, but please not both at the same time.

And if Allegri has any shread of decency left in him and isn't completely stupid, then he won't drop Flamini in favour of Gattuso

[X-Offender]

La Gazzetta are never reliable in predicting line-ups. Always use Sportmediaset.

Link

[han2503]

La Gazzetta are never reliable in predicting line-ups. Always use Sportmediaset.

Link

Well that's pretty much the same thing only they have Robinho instead of Dinho. I'm more p!ssed off at the fact that Allegri will most likely bench Flamini for Rino!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/swear1.gif)

[X-Offender]

Well that's pretty much the same thing only they have Robinho instead of Dinho. I'm more p!ssed off at the fact that Allegri will most likely bench Flamini for Rino!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/swear1.gif)

And Zambrotta for Abate.

I agree about Flamini and Gattuso, but it looks like Rino will always be a starter this season, so might as well put our hearts in peace. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

[han2503]

And Zambrotta for Abate.

I agree about Flamini and Gattuso, but it looks like Rino will always be a starter this season, so might as well put our hearts in peace. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

That's actually a good thing.

As for Rino, there is no justifiable answer as to why Rino could take Flamini's place in that midfield. I still think that Pirlo should be moved up and Boateng getting the other slot in that midfield. With that formation I can see Pirlo ending up doing the grunt work while Ambro and Rino are running like headless chickens playing as box-to-box. And that would mean no one to support Seedorf as well.

The midfield 3 that played against Palermo was flawless, Allegri changing it up is just ridiculous. If Pirlo is available play him instead of Seedorf and be done with it. No need to fix something that is not broken

[William405]

Seems like the attack will be formed of Ibra,Ronaldinho as a support striker.Has he ever played in that position?Allegri says he can play as a striker anyway,and Seedorf or Pirlo will be playing in the trequartista postion.I don't know about the midfeild though,and it's pretty obvious what the defense will be formed of.

Source:http://www.football-italia.net/nov13m.html

This post has been edited by William405: Nov 13 2010, 09:50 PM

[CHU-LIP]

That's actually a good thing.

Abate is only our best preforming full back nowadays, oh well...

[X-Offender]

Seems like the attack will be formed of Ibra,Ronaldinho as a support striker.Has he ever played in that position?Allegri says he can play as a striker anyway,and Seedorf or Pirlo will be playing in the trequartista postion.I don't know about the midfeild though,and it's pretty obvious what the defense will be formed of.

Source:http://www.football-italia.net/nov13m.html

Didn't you read what I just wrote? Sportmediaset is the most reliable source for predicting line-ups. The fact you're willing to trust a foreign website more is even worse.

[Fillipo Simone]

Abate is only our best preforming full back nowadays, oh well...

I don't get it, based on what?

[CHU-LIP]

I don't get it, based on what?

Based on this season / the last few matches. He played well vs Real Madrid and Palermo. When Antonini played this season, he didn't play well. Zambrotta and Abate are IMO our best full backs at the moment.

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Nov 13 2010, 11:38 PM

[Fillipo Simone]

I still prefer Zambro-Antonini. Abate was good against CR, but...I still don't think he defends good.

[CHU-LIP]

I still prefer Zambro-Antonini. Abate was good against CR, but...I still don't think he defends good.

You're still living in 2009-2010. Comparing last and this season Abate became obvious better and Antonini has been preforming way worse.

[Fillipo Simone]

You're still living in 2009-2010. Comparing last and this season Abate became obvious better and Antonini has been preforming way worse.

No I'm not, I just don't get that easily impressed. Everyone can make a few good matches now and then. And that's what Abate made - a few solid performances, nothing more nothing less.

But the debate on side, Antonini isn't that much better either. I'm in anticipation to see how fast Oddo can recuperate and if Janku is still any good. At least until January.