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 Oct 12 2010, 09:55 PM
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Allievi Nazionali  Group: Helpers Posts: 8,627 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 1,660  |
(IMG:http://www.9cristianoronaldo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/Cristiano_Ronaldo.jpg)
(IMG:http://sportige.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Pato-Ronaldinho.jpg) (IMG:http://cdn.serieatalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/milan-vs-realmadrid.jpg) GAME INFO: TUESDAY OCT 19, 2010 20:45 CET SANTIAGO BERNABEU (IMG:http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/4857/maldinidegouteparsansir.jpg) |
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Oct 12 2010, 09:56 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 12 2010, 10:55 PM)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Oct 12 2010, 10:56 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 3,601 Joined: 22-February 10 Member No.: 7,230 |
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 12 2010, 10:55 PM) I didn't know he was going to play the match. |
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Oct 13 2010, 03:52 AM
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Esordienti A 95 Group: Full Members Posts: 651 Joined: 22-August 05 From: Sydney, Australia Member No.: 251 |
WOW a bit early aiY?
They got injury problems we should be ok. |
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Oct 13 2010, 06:38 AM
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Dida per sempre Group: Full Members Posts: 4,198 Joined: 25-February 07 From: St. Francis Member No.: 3,563 |
Jesus, is that Maldini or Sylvester Stallone?
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Oct 13 2010, 12:40 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,627 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 1,660 |
I'm glad your all enjoying my pics (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Oct 13 2010, 12:43 PM
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Loves Greek Women esp Fay  Group: Moderators Posts: 14,924 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Bangalore,India Member No.: 1,865 |
Don't we have a match against the Donkeys before this?
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Oct 13 2010, 12:54 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,627 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 1,660 |
meh, no one likes the donkeys anyways. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
I'd rather focus on the big boys. why? because.....THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!! (IMG:http://foxtrot.fpsbanana.com/ico/sprays/this_is_sparta_v2_0_by_dooo.gif) This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Oct 13 2010, 01:03 PM |
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Oct 13 2010, 12:58 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,627 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 1,660 |
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 12 2010, 03:56 PM) I didn't know he was going to play the match. He'll be there in spirit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) |
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Oct 13 2010, 02:53 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
lol the madrid thread is open but no Chievo thread? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
@ blue, why not choose a funnier CR7 pic? (IMG:http://forladiesbyladies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/cristiano_ronaldo_shorts.JPG) |
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Oct 13 2010, 04:16 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
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Oct 13 2010, 04:46 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 13 2010, 03:16 PM) Damn, I really wanted to see Amelia getting a chance. At least against Chievo, maybe he'd pull off a great game and push Abbiati out |
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Oct 13 2010, 05:01 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 3,601 Joined: 22-February 10 Member No.: 7,230 |
It's called disturbing, not funny, han. (that picture)
So Abbiati will be back? What about Antonini? Will he be available for the Real Madrid match? I have no difficulties with Zambrotta and Abate playing against Chievo, but against Real Madrid I prefer someone like Bonera or Papastathopoulos over Abate as rightback. |
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Oct 13 2010, 05:17 PM
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Giovanissimi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 1,392 Joined: 9-January 10 From: Sweden&Italy Member No.: 7,087 |
Özil was injured for Real Madrid so they don't have any attacking midfielder cuase they sold Van Der Vaart and Kakà is injured but some news says he will be back and some says he is gone for 4-3 weeks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) But Im glad Abbiati is recovering but I really wanted to see Amelia play, He impressed against Barcelona so why not Real Madrid or atleast Chievo.
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Oct 13 2010, 05:38 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (samira @ Oct 13 2010, 06:17 PM) Özil was injured for Real Madrid so they don't have any attacking midfielder cuase they sold Van Der Vaart and Kakà is injured but some news says he will be back and some says he is gone for 4-3 weeks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) They actually have Granero and Canales for that role. |
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Oct 13 2010, 05:56 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 13 2010, 04:38 PM) They actually have Granero and Canales for that role. Granero is a CM more then anything, and still neither of them is at the same level as Ozil or Kaka. Ozil not being available is a big plus for us |
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Oct 13 2010, 06:09 PM
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Esordienti B 96 Group: Full Members Posts: 474 Joined: 13-May 09 From: Lithuania Member No.: 6,462 |
I always wanted Dinho to show Cristiano how real football is played... Ronaldo was injured last year, then Dinho was rejected for Brasil, but now it's the time... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) Frankly, I believe we can win, I really do. We did it last year so we just need to repeat it.
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Oct 13 2010, 07:32 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (Coldest @ Oct 13 2010, 07:09 PM) I always wanted Dinho to show Cristiano how real football is played... Maybe it's the other way around. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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Oct 13 2010, 07:43 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 8,034 Joined: 4-May 08 From: Pakistan Member No.: 3,873 |
i read on milannews that ramos could miss the game as well
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Oct 13 2010, 08:33 PM
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Esordienti A 95 Group: Full Members Posts: 976 Joined: 14-March 10 From: Brasil/Chile Member No.: 7,300 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 13 2010, 03:32 PM) Maybe it's the other way around. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Sometimes X-Off, I think you don't want Milan to win. |
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Oct 13 2010, 10:24 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (Linkman @ Oct 13 2010, 09:33 PM) Sometimes X-Off, I think you don't want Milan to win. I'm sorry, but Ronaldo is more a football player than Ronaldinho ever was. Dinho is just a joggler (well, was) with a good field of vision and some nice passes. Ronaldo is that and much more. Just because Dinho plays for Milan doesn't mean I should turn a blind eye to reality. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Oct 14 2010, 02:40 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 14 2010, 03:56 AM) Granero is a CM more then anything, and still neither of them is at the same level as Ozil or Kaka. Ozil not being available is a big plus for us Yeh i reckon they'll push Khedira up and play Granero behind. |
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Oct 14 2010, 02:52 AM
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Giovanissimi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 1,309 Joined: 28-August 09 From: Chicago, IL, USA Member No.: 6,771 |
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 13 2010, 06:54 AM) I'd rather focus on the big boys. Hopefully the players aren't thinking the same thing. |
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Oct 14 2010, 05:05 AM
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Esordienti A 95 Group: Full Members Posts: 976 Joined: 14-March 10 From: Brasil/Chile Member No.: 7,300 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 13 2010, 06:24 PM) I'm sorry, but Ronaldo is more a football player than Ronaldinho ever was. Dinho is just a joggler (well, was) with a good field of vision and some nice passes. Ronaldo is that and much more. Just because Dinho plays for Milan doesn't mean I should turn a blind eye to reality. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Hmm, I'd say Ronaldinho is leagues ahead of Ronaldo for precisely the same reasons, to be honest. |
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Oct 14 2010, 07:58 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 13 2010, 10:24 PM) I'm sorry, but Ronaldo is more a football player than Ronaldinho ever was. Dinho is just a joggler (well, was) with a good field of vision and some nice passes. Ronaldo is that and much more. Just because Dinho plays for Milan doesn't mean I should turn a blind eye to reality. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Only you X-Off. Ronaldo is just someone who can run really fast and hit a ball with power. His one trick poney act with the constant stepover just nauseates me. Yes Dinho is a trickster. But he's a footballer before that, simply for the reasons you yourself mentioned above. At their best I'd pick Dinho over the fake Ronaldo anyday of the weak. |
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Oct 14 2010, 09:02 AM
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Loves Greek Women esp Fay Group: Moderators Posts: 14,924 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Bangalore,India Member No.: 1,865 |
Maybe he's comparing the Ronaldo of the present to the Ronaldinho of the present. That's still an unfair comparison. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) You'd have to compare two players at their peak.
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Oct 14 2010, 09:10 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,627 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 1,660 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 13 2010, 03:24 PM) I'm sorry, but Ronaldo is more a football player than Ronaldinho ever was. Dinho is just a joggler (well, was) with a good field of vision and some nice passes. Ronaldo is that and much more. Just because Dinho plays for Milan doesn't mean I should turn a blind eye to reality. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) He doesn't even compare to messi and your comparing him to ronaldinho? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Your statement is so redicilous that i'm in a state of shock right now. I'm going to let the others rip into you on this topic as i'm sure there are a few who feel your absoloutly crazy so All i'm going to say is If I were to say that to the people I'm currently mentoring under; they would straight out just laugh at me and think i've gone mad. Ronaldinho in his prime vs Ronaldo in his prime? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AHaGIzZ1MA First player ever to get a standing ovation in bernabeu. I'd love to see cry baby get the same treatment in camp nou. This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Oct 14 2010, 09:14 AM |
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Oct 14 2010, 09:15 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,627 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 1,660 |
QUOTE (servbot @ Oct 13 2010, 07:52 PM) Hopefully the players aren't thinking the same thing. no worries man, chievo are garbage. We'll win 9-0. ibra 3x hattrick. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Oct 14 2010, 09:15 AM |
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Oct 14 2010, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 14 2010, 12:54 AM) I'm sorry, but Ronaldo is more a football player than Ronaldinho ever was. Dinho is just a joggler (well, was) with a good field of vision and some nice passes. Ronaldo is that and much more. Just because Dinho plays for Milan doesn't mean I should turn a blind eye to reality. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) And Ronaldo with his silly, unnecessary, show-off tricks and stepovers isn't?! LMAO (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) IMO, Ronaldinho at his very best (while wasn't better than the likes of Maradona, Zidane, etc) was second to none. certainly not to Ronaldo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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Oct 14 2010, 09:45 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 14 2010, 10:15 AM) no worries man, chievo are garbage. We'll win 9-0. ibra 3x hattrick. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ?? You really think that? |
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Oct 14 2010, 09:50 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,627 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 1,660 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 14 2010, 02:45 AM) ?? You really think that? Obv i'm joking but I think we'll win it. Allegri has had some time to work with the squad and especially ronaldinho who didn't travel. Our build up should be smoother and if Pato/ibra/binho can finish, we'll easily be able to hit at least 3 on them. But we'll see. Its all theoretical. Allegri could sh*t the bed and were just as bad as before. |
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Oct 14 2010, 01:48 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 14 2010, 08:58 AM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Only you X-Off. Ronaldo is just someone who can run really fast and hit a ball with power. His one trick poney act with the constant stepover just nauseates me. Yes Dinho is a trickster. But he's a footballer before that, simply for the reasons you yourself mentioned above. At their best I'd pick Dinho over the fake Ronaldo anyday of the weak. QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 14 2010, 10:10 AM) He doesn't even compare to messi and your comparing him to ronaldinho? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Your statement is so redicilous that i'm in a state of shock right now. I'm going to let the others rip into you on this topic as i'm sure there are a few who feel your absoloutly crazy so All i'm going to say is If I were to say that to the people I'm currently mentoring under; they would straight out just laugh at me and think i've gone mad. Ronaldinho in his prime vs Ronaldo in his prime? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AHaGIzZ1MA First player ever to get a standing ovation in bernabeu. I'd love to see cry baby get the same treatment in camp nou. QUOTE (Zed.D @ Oct 14 2010, 10:40 AM) And Ronaldo with his silly, unnecessary, show-off tricks and stepovers isn't?! LMAO (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) IMO, Ronaldinho at his very best (while wasn't better than the likes of Maradona, Zidane, etc) was second to none. certainly not to Ronaldo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Nag nag nag... Ronaldo won Manchester United the Champions League all by himself. Ronaldinho wasn't that impressive during Barça's victory in 2006, which would be his last successful year. His years at PSG were anonymous, and after the 2006 WC he went AWOL. So tell me, how could someone be considered a football legend if he managed to outshine the rest of his peers for only about 3-4 years? Ronaldo has been playing at high levels for a very long time, and he's still got his future ahead of him. He's an exemplary athlete, and without him Real would have flopped big time last season. OK, I admit that during his prime Dinho did some amazing stuff that maybe Ronaldo isn't capable of, but what about consistency? Zidane isn't considered a football legend because he shined during France 98. He played at high standards for his entire career. Dinho has called it quits from a while now. And he's "only" 30! This post has been edited by X-Offender: Oct 14 2010, 01:54 PM |
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Oct 14 2010, 02:50 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 14 2010, 05:48 PM) Zidane isn't considered a football legend because he shined during France 98. He played at high standards for his entire career. Yeah, but the only thing is that he didn't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) He was a flop at the World Cup of France 98! People only seem to remember him because of his goals in the final match, and people think he was the main player of the team. For my money he was a much better club player than NT. Clicky |
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Oct 14 2010, 03:01 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 14 2010, 03:50 PM) Yeah, but the only thing is that he didn't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) He was a flop at the World Cup of France 98! People only seem to remember him because of his goals in the final match, and people think he was the main player of the team. For my money he was a much better club player than NT. Clicky Maybe you're right. But then again, he was great in 2006, headbutt aside. |
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Oct 14 2010, 03:27 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 14 2010, 07:01 PM) Maybe you're right. But then again, he was great in 2006, headbutt aside. Yeah, I'll give you that. He wasn't too hot in the first half of the campaign, the group stages. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) But he stepped up in the business end of the tournament, up till the final. I'd go as far as to say that France wouldn't have made it to the final if Zidane wasn't in the squad - he was that important to the team. Overall, I rate his performances better in the club teams - in Juventus and Madrid, he was immense! |
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Oct 14 2010, 03:50 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 14 2010, 01:48 PM) Nag nag nag... Ronaldo won Manchester United the Champions League all by himself. Ronaldinho wasn't that impressive during Barça's victory in 2006, which would be his last successful year. His years at PSG were anonymous, and after the 2006 WC he went AWOL. So tell me, how could someone be considered a football legend if he managed to outshine the rest of his peers for only about 3-4 years? Ronaldo has been playing at high levels for a very long time, and he's still got his future ahead of him. He's an exemplary athlete, and without him Real would have flopped big time last season. OK, I admit that during his prime Dinho did some amazing stuff that maybe Ronaldo isn't capable of, but what about consistency? Zidane isn't considered a football legend because he shined during France 98. He played at high standards for his entire career. Dinho has called it quits from a while now. And he's "only" 30! You were talking about them as footballers, not their consistancy or longevity (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Dinho wins hands down as a footballer. Longevity? Obviosuly CR has the upper hand, Dinho lost his way, as we see happen with most Brazilians, maybe it's their mentality. But he's managed to work his way back, maybe not to the standards he set out, but that's because those standards were so rediculously high that no matter what he does now will pale in comparison. C.Ron didn't win Man U the title by himself, don't build him up to be something he's not, Man U had a great all round squad when they won the CL, now if you want to talk about players winning their team the title talk about Kaka in 07, or Maradona leading Argentina to that WC practically single handedly. Not C.Ron with Man U (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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Oct 14 2010, 04:15 PM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
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Ooooh, I love this little fan talk before big matches! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Carry on sons, it gives the match up weight, and makes the occasion even more special. The thing with Ronaldinho is that even though his spark was too bright, it was too short lived. Few people can match his peak of 2002-2006, talent, creativity, and game reading skills. That and the fact that the Portuguese is physically well built, taller, and has a bigger, stronger frame which means he can make faster runs, dodge defenders, get up quickly when he falls down and still keep control on the ball, not to mention faster reflexes. But when it comes to pure talent, Ronaldinho wins it all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Then again, pure, unadulterated talent gets you this far in professional football. He's 29 for Pete's sake, and looks, feels and moves 39. Now if we compare Cristiano to the Real Ronaldo, then there isn't even much to write about between the two. That Brazilian wins hands down. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) In case of R80, Cristiano has enough time to catch up with him, and part of that is because of Ronaldinho's own doing. He let himself down, flabby tummy, partying and all. |
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Oct 14 2010, 04:22 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 14 2010, 04:50 PM) You were talking about them as footballers, not their consistancy or longevity (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Dinho wins hands down as a footballer. Longevity? Obviosuly CR has the upper hand, Dinho lost his way, as we see happen with most Brazilians, maybe it's their mentality. But he's managed to work his way back, maybe not to the standards he set out, but that's because those standards were so rediculously high that no matter what he does now will pale in comparison. C.Ron didn't win Man U the title by himself, don't build him up to be something he's not, Man U had a great all round squad when they won the CL, now if you want to talk about players winning their team the title talk about Kaka in 07, or Maradona leading Argentina to that WC practically single handedly. Not C.Ron with Man U (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Consistency is part of being a great footballer, han. I explicitly stressed it in my previous post. Ronaldinho lost his will (along with everything else) when he flopped big time in the 2006 WC, and he's never been the same ever since. QUOTE (acid911 @ Oct 14 2010, 05:15 PM) (IMG:http://i51.tinypic.com/10i8oqv.jpg) Ooooh, I love this little fan talk before big matches! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Carry on sons, it gives the match up weight, and makes the occasion even more special. The thing with Ronaldinho is that even though his spark was too bright, it was too short lived. Few people can match his peak of 2002-2006, talent, creativity, and game reading skills. That and the fact that the Portuguese is physically well built, taller, and has a bigger, stronger frame which means he can make faster runs, dodge defenders, get up quickly when he falls down and still keep control on the ball, not to mention faster reflexes. But when it comes to pure talent, Ronaldinho wins it all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Then again, pure, unadulterated talent gets you this far in professional football. He's 29 for Pete's sake, and looks, feels and moves 39. Now if we compare Cristiano to the Real Ronaldo, then there isn't even much to write about between the two. That Brazilian wins hands down. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) In case of R80, Cristiano has enough time to catch up with him, and part of that is because of Ronaldinho's own doing. He let himself down, flabby tummy, partying and all. Exactly. Being talented means nothing if you can't live up to it. Look at Cassano, or Reccoba. Big talents but huge flops. Dinho wasn't a flop, he had his moments of huge glory, but it was short-lived. By the way, Dinho made 30 in March, so don't say 29. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Oct 14 2010, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 14 2010, 04:22 PM) Consistency is part of being a great footballer, han. I explicitly stressed it in my previous post. Ronaldinho lost his will (along with everything else) when he flopped big time in the 2006 WC, and he's never been the same ever since. What you were talking about in that first post was about their pure footballing talent. That imo has nothing to do with consistancy. And that is where Ronaldo doesn't even come close to Dinho. Dinho had nearly more then 7 years of playing consistanly great football, the PSG years where still great years, maybe not at a top club but as a footballer he was still consistant. But for whatever reason Dinho did what we see most Brazialian doing these days, he got to the absolute top and decided that he didn't need to work at staying on the top. Those were the times I really couldn't stand him or the hype around him.But the reason I respect him now is that he's worked himself back into shape and is still delivering the goods at a top European club. Like I said no one will be satisfied because we all know what he did during his best years, that imo is a testament to how really good he was. As for C.Ron, imo he's the better athlete of the 2 no question about it. Whether he'll be able to sustain such physical shape still remains to be seen. he's still young so we'll see. |
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Oct 14 2010, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 14 2010, 08:22 PM) Exactly. Being talented means nothing if you can't live up to it. Look at Cassano, or Reccoba. Big talents but huge flops. Dinho wasn't a flop, he had his moments of huge glory, but it was short-lived. True, that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) If we had the technology to make perfect (and similar) clones of both players, but give their respective talents to each players, Ronaldinho will take it quite easily. Give him physique, physical strength and will (let's admit it, Cristiano has more of it now), make them the same age, say 25, and pitch them against each other, bucktooth will have his number. But what X-Off is on here is that this isn't the case. Ronaldinho has fallen from the high branch and frankly that's the reason he is here, even Ibra, Milan likes to get players that are off their peak form and fitness, and we get them cheap, try and recondition them and hope the gamble pays off. I'm sure everyone knows and understand this, but see this Football-Italia piece on Top Foreign Plays to Play In Seria A: QUOTE A second approach is the one currently being adopted by Milan. Rather than try to go for an untested youth who might explode or a superstar with a price-tag to match, they have been dipping into the bargain bucket. A bit like an eagle-eyed shopper at the sales, they have been quick to pounce on other people’s cast-offs. It doesn’t always work out, of course, but the sums appear to add up in the deals for the likes of Robinho and Ibrahimovic. With big-spending clubs keen to cut their losses and meet squad size requirements there is always a potential deal or two to be done. Once again, however, this approach has to come with a health warning. Many of these players are discarded for a reason – perhaps their character, injury-prone physique or plunging form. Whatever the cause, they represent as much of a gamble as an unknown teenager. They also have the extra downside of being potentially much higher profile mistakes. Source In essence, he is a discarded player, and if he wasn't I doubt we'd have been able to get his signature this easily. This also means that if my life depended on it, I'd put my money on Cristiano (even though I don't like that fella that much) than Ronaldinho to give a good performance over a stretch of matches. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) And this is precisely the reason why I am keenly anticipating this match to see which player leads his side through. The WC match of Brazil against Portugal was another one that had the potential of a lifetime (Kaka vs Cristiano in national colors), but that was a dab downer. As of this writing, I still consider Ronaldinho the better player overall (looking at their career) than Cristiano, but the Portuguese is closing the gap. And fast. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) He isn't there yet, surely, but another four years at the top flight, with a CL win at the Real Madrid, and they'll be even. Cristiano is immense, guys, love him or hate him, he just lacks the patience and experience, which Ronaldinho got at a young age. The only edge R80 will have now is if we were playing park futsal with 6 players a side. A slow tempo game, with not much of a pressure situation. QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 14 2010, 08:22 PM) By the way, Dinho made 30 in March, so don't say 29. Oh jolly good then, I'm not too big a fan of his (though appreciate the fact that he is playing for our club, and gives good performance more often than not), been years since I've visited his wiki page, never paid attention to his date of birth, so thanks for clearing that up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) 30 he is, then! |
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Oct 14 2010, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 13 2010, 04:38 PM) They actually have Granero and Canales for that role. Granero is more CM i guess and Canales is away for loan |
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Oct 14 2010, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 14 2010, 04:44 PM) What you were talking about in that first post was about their pure footballing talent. That imo has nothing to do with consistancy. And that is where Ronaldo doesn't even come close to Dinho. Dinho had nearly more then 7 years of playing consistanly great football, the PSG years where still great years, maybe not at a top club but as a footballer he was still consistant. But for whatever reason Dinho did what we see most Brazialian doing these days, he got to the absolute top and decided that he didn't need to work at staying on the top. Those were the times I really couldn't stand him or the hype around him.But the reason I respect him now is that he's worked himself back into shape and is still delivering the goods at a top European club. Like I said no one will be satisfied because we all know what he did during his best years, that imo is a testament to how really good he was. As for C.Ron, imo he's the better athlete of the 2 no question about it. Whether he'll be able to sustain such physical shape still remains to be seen. he's still young so we'll see. Kaka at his peak was better than the pair of them! He didn't need silly party pieces or 100 stepovers a minute to beat players but he could influence a game by sheer brilliance. His goal against Manu when he left the 2 Utd players on their a55es and made them look like amateurs proved that. Sheer genius. |
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Oct 14 2010, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 14 2010, 05:44 PM) What you were talking about in that first post was about their pure footballing talent. That imo has nothing to do with consistancy. And that is where Ronaldo doesn't even come close to Dinho. Dinho had nearly more then 7 years of playing consistanly great football, the PSG years where still great years, maybe not at a top club but as a footballer he was still consistant. But for whatever reason Dinho did what we see most Brazialian doing these days, he got to the absolute top and decided that he didn't need to work at staying on the top. Those were the times I really couldn't stand him or the hype around him.But the reason I respect him now is that he's worked himself back into shape and is still delivering the goods at a top European club. Like I said no one will be satisfied because we all know what he did during his best years, that imo is a testament to how really good he was. As for C.Ron, imo he's the better athlete of the 2 no question about it. Whether he'll be able to sustain such physical shape still remains to be seen. he's still young so we'll see. Comparing his last three years to his prime Barça years will always be a topic of debate. It's like, he was this great footballer that hooked the whole world, but then the next day he just disappeared. Dinho might be playing for a top European club right now, but how many people from the other European leagues know what he's up to? He's failed to impress, and he's become just a normal player. If you ask me, that's got "fail" written all over it. Even the original Ronaldo, despite his struggles with injuries and his current conditions, managed to perform for about 8-9 years at high levels. QUOTE (samira @ Oct 14 2010, 05:49 PM) Granero is more CM i guess and Canales is away for loan Dude, what? Canales is not away for loan. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) |
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Oct 14 2010, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 14 2010, 08:53 PM) Kaka at his peak was better than the pair of them! He didn't need silly party pieces or 100 stepovers a minute to beat players but he could influence a game by sheer brilliance. His goal against Manu when he left the 2 Utd players on their a55es and made them look like amateurs proved that. Sheer genius. Word. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Kaka was a cut above both these fellows. He had class written over his runs, and did not need fancy tricks to get past defenders. Then again, his recent bad luck with injuries means there is yet a mark in his negative column. In a perfect world, though, Kaka would be owning both these players over and over again. |
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Oct 14 2010, 05:34 PM
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Giovanissimi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 1,392 Joined: 9-January 10 From: Sweden&Italy Member No.: 7,087 |
Isn't he on loan for Racing Santander
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Oct 14 2010, 06:53 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (samira @ Oct 14 2010, 06:34 PM) Isn't he on loan for Racing Santander Nope. He played for Racing until Real signed him this summer. He's never been on loan. |
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Oct 14 2010, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 14 2010, 12:53 PM) Kaka at his peak was better than the pair of them! He didn't need silly party pieces or 100 stepovers a minute to beat players but he could influence a game by sheer brilliance. His goal against Manu when he left the 2 Utd players on their a55es and made them look like amateurs proved that. Sheer genius. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiMVT189Sg0 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Oct 14 2010, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE (Linkman @ Oct 14 2010, 08:16 PM) To this day, that's the best goal I have ever witnessed. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) |
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Oct 14 2010, 07:40 PM
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Esordienti A 95 Group: Full Members Posts: 976 Joined: 14-March 10 From: Brasil/Chile Member No.: 7,300 |
For once X-Off, I agree with you 100% (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Oct 14 2010, 08:20 PM
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QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Oct 14 2010, 04:53 PM) Kaka at his peak was better than the pair of them! He didn't need silly party pieces or 100 stepovers a minute to beat players but he could influence a game by sheer brilliance. His goal against Manu when he left the 2 Utd players on their a55es and made them look like amateurs proved that. Sheer genius. I think that's stilla debatable issue, all 3 have their respective strengths. At their peaks, I'd still go for Kaka, because h's the type of player i like, direct. Personally I think both Kaka and Dinho are better footballers then C.Ron who depends on his physique a lot, rather then using his brain. QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 14 2010, 05:05 PM) Comparing his last three years to his prime Barça years will always be a topic of debate. It's like, he was this great footballer that hooked the whole world, but then the next day he just disappeared. Dinho might be playing for a top European club right now, but how many people from the other European leagues know what he's up to? He's failed to impress, and he's become just a normal player. If you ask me, that's got "fail" written all over it. Even the original Ronaldo, despite his struggles with injuries and his current conditions, managed to perform for about 8-9 years at high levels. The downfall of Ronaldinho can only be attributed to Ronaldinho himself, that is something we both agree with. And yes he's not what he used to be and never will be, he's 30 now, so no matter how hard he works, he will never regain his speed and agility, imo that's not because he's not trying now, but because he wasted those years,doing god knows what. Having said that, I think some of the blame as to why he's not mentioned that much is because he's in the Serie A and not in the EPL. Last season in terms of stats he was second to none. The original Ronaldo had those 8 years halved out by being injured for half of them, then came the weight gain, etc, etc. Imo he's another player that could have achieved a lot more had he worked at it rather then let the Burger King wave take him to where it pleased. This is why I respect Dinho now, because even though he and all the fans know that he won't be regaining what he had in the past he still has a lot to offer, so he's working hard to remain in shape. Personally I used to hate that old magical, explosive Dinho, but I admire the slower one we have now |
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Oct 14 2010, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 14 2010, 09:20 PM) Personally I used to hate that old magical, explosive Dinho, but I admire the slower one we have now That's because you're a weirdo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
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Oct 14 2010, 08:43 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 14 2010, 07:35 PM) That's because you're a weirdo. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Maybe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Oct 16 2010, 09:06 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
Considering tonight's developments, this is how I see us playing on Tuesday.
Abbiati Zambrotta - Nesta - Bonera - Antonini Gattuso - Pirlo - Seedorf Ronaldinho Pato - Ibrahimovic Do I approve? No. I hate this fetish of Allergi playing the same old midfield every three days. I'm pretty certain there's no way in hell Rino and Seedorf will be benched against Real, therefore why not play Boateng and Flamini tonight instead? We have a very rich and decent group of players, yet we keep playing the same line-up every time. I'd also choose Sokratis over Bonera as CB any day, but considering he wasn't even on the bench tonight, I doubt Allegri will pick him. In fact, when he was asked after the game about Thiago's injury, he said we've got Bonera and Yepes who can substitute him. He didn't even mention Papa. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
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Oct 16 2010, 09:17 PM
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Playing Seedorf along Pirlo is something we can do against Chievo but I would hate to see that happening against Real Madrid. Also, Boateng showed he should be a starter, and he will give the needed balance in midfield, and more than that. Gattuso is our best DM, so he should start also, he is having an awesome season, and I don't buy it he will be too tired that day. He has a few days rest after having how long rest before today's match?
Pato, Ibrahimovic Ronaldinho Gattuso, Pirlo, Boateng Antonini, Nesta, Papastathopoulos, Zambrotta Abbiati edit: changed central defense This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Oct 16 2010, 09:28 PM |
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Oct 16 2010, 09:21 PM
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If you wanna hear my opinion, Bonera is much better than Yepes. Yepes is our substitute of Favalli, he hasn't played a single game so far and on top of that, he's 34. He never impressed me in pre-season either. Definitely not Real-Milan material.
I thought Sokratis would be our first choice back-up this season. He had some really good displays in pre-season as CB, he's young but also experienced. The fact Allegri doesn't even consider him and we're left with only Bonera and Yepes worries me. I really hope we sign David Luiz. Totally agree with you about playing Boateng instead of Seedorf. I'd play Boateng every game if it was up to me. |
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Oct 16 2010, 09:29 PM
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I guess it's indeed weird to pick a player who hasn't play a minute yet (bar pre-season). I will put Sokratis in my line-up since he would indeed be my first choice also. But we all know it will be Bonera who is going to start. I have a bad feeling about that.
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Oct 16 2010, 09:51 PM
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IMO Yepes is better then Bonera. Allegri seems to have lost faith in Sokratis after that one very bad match...a silly thing to do, because I'd say he's the logical choice.
Yepes and Bonera combined with Nesta mean a slow defense that his held by a slow midfield if Rino-Seedorf-Ronaldinho will play. This means that we will have a evident disadvantage from minute 1 and it will get only worse and worse. The players we field even a 5-substitution rule wouldn't be enough to hold down the last 15-20 minutes concentrated. And thanks to Allegri who seems to be afraid of taking Ibra off, we now have also a very tired striker in addition. I'm very worried. |
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Oct 16 2010, 10:14 PM
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Ibra is one of those players who can play every single match offering constantly a high performance. He did that at Inter and he'll do it with us as well, so I wouldn't worry about it.
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Oct 16 2010, 10:32 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 16 2010, 11:14 PM) Ibra is one of those players who can play every single match offering constantly a high performance. He did that at Inter and he'll do it with us as well, so I wouldn't worry about it. Don't you think he looked a bit exhausted at the end? |
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Oct 16 2010, 10:34 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 16 2010, 11:32 PM) Don't you think he looked a bit exhausted at the end? Nah, that's just him. Besides, he only played one game with Sweden so had plenty of time to rest. |
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Oct 16 2010, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Oct 16 2010, 11:32 PM) Don't you think he looked a bit exhausted at the end? At the end? You mean right after 90 minutes of football? Yeah, sure, it is possible a player looks exhausted then at that very moment. |
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Oct 17 2010, 06:45 AM
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Agreed with everything being said, Allegri has shown some willingness to make changes, ie formation and not keeping up with Dihno as a winger, but his insistance on playing the old gaurd in every game is becoming a real annoyance. Gattuso shouldn't have played against Chievo, Flamini could have done the job just fine, while I feel more comfortable having a totally fit Rino to play against Real. Boateng should be playing instead of Seedorf, but we all know that's not going to happen because Allegri would never bench Seedorf, especially not against Madrid. So we'll have a tired Seedorf against Real instead of an energetic Boateng. Real play 2 in midfield (Alonso, Khedira) and Ozil behind the front 3, playing Boateng, Pirlo and Rino would give us the upper hand in the midfield battle, while playing Seedorf, Pirlo and Rino will make our midfield slow, they won't be able to cope with Real's quick players.
On the defence, I can't understand why Allegri would lose faith on Sokratis after just one bad game, when in reality everyone played like cr@p against Cesena, and Bonera was to blame for the goal as much as Sokratis. Imo Sokratis will only be brought back into the fold if Bonera makes a howler, sadly that is something that could easily happen against Real, can you imagine him coming up against Di Maria/C.Ron/Higuain/Ozil?? Oh the sheer terror I feel at that prospect. This while Sokratis has experiance against top plaers (marking out Messi in the WC), he's much stronger, and faster then Bonera. I really don't understand the logic in plaing Bonera or Yepes for that matter over Sokratis As for Ibra, aside from some magical isolated moments he realy wasn't looking in top shape, he's been having some trouble with injuries so ~I don't really blame him, I blame Allegri for keeping him on for 90 minutes every game, Robinho should have come on for Ibra yesterday, not Pato. Pato was still looking like he could play another 90 minutes when he was taken off, while Ibra looked exhausted. |
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Oct 17 2010, 01:11 PM
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RIP MILAN. We had a good run. Shame it has to be mourinho that puts us in the grave (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Oct 17 2010, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 17 2010, 02:11 PM) RIP MILAN. We had a good run. Shame it has to be mourinho that puts us in the grave (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Lay off, dude. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) |
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Oct 17 2010, 02:41 PM
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QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 17 2010, 01:11 PM) RIP MILAN. We had a good run. Shame it has to be mourinho that puts us in the grave (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Kiss any Mou @ss lately blue? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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Oct 17 2010, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 17 2010, 03:41 PM) Kiss any Mou @ss lately blue? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Lately? Since forever. |
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Oct 17 2010, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 17 2010, 02:45 PM) Lately? Since forever. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But now he's trying to make it as if Mou will be the mastermind behind the Real win (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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Oct 17 2010, 02:52 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
Thiago called up for Madrid!
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Oct 17 2010, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 17 2010, 02:52 PM) Thiago called up for Madrid! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fiesta.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fiesta.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fiesta.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fiesta.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fiesta.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fiesta.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fiesta.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fiesta.gif) |
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YES!!!!!!!!
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Oct 17 2010, 03:07 PM
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Coming back down from my high...
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Oct 17 2010, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 17 2010, 04:07 PM) Coming back down from my high... It will most probably be a last minute decision... If we're lucky, and we might be if Thiago Silva can start and play the whole game. Calling up doesn't mean he will start the game. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) If I remember correctly Bonera, Papastathopoulos and Yepes are all called up also. Enough central backs are called up... |
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Oct 17 2010, 03:16 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 17 2010, 02:14 PM) If we're lucky, and we might be if Thiago Silva can start and play the whole game. Calling up doesn't mean he will start the game. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) If I remember correctly Bonera, Papastathopoulos and Yepes are all called up also. Enough central backs are called up... Problem is, which one of them will be making the bench, whether Thiago plays or not. |
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Oct 17 2010, 04:05 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 17 2010, 04:07 PM) Coming back down from my high... It will most probably be a last minute decision... It will be a last minute decision. But it's more hopeful than not being called up at all, at least. |
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Oct 17 2010, 04:14 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 17 2010, 03:05 PM) It will be a last minute decision. But it's more hopeful than not being called up at all, at least. Yep |
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Oct 17 2010, 06:58 PM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Helpers Posts: 5,148 Joined: 5-October 05 From: Bristol Member No.: 558 |
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 17 2010, 01:11 PM) RIP MILAN. We had a good run. Shame it has to be mourinho that puts us in the grave (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Even if we were to lose, it wouldn't be then end of the world! After watching last nights game I think they should be fearing our front 3 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Oct 17 2010, 07:01 PM
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Giovanissimi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 1,392 Joined: 9-January 10 From: Sweden&Italy Member No.: 7,087 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 17 2010, 01:52 PM) Thiago called up for Madrid! You made my day X- Off ! |
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Oct 17 2010, 07:23 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (samira @ Oct 17 2010, 06:01 PM) You made my day X- Off ! Probably the first time he's heard that in his entire life (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
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Oct 17 2010, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 17 2010, 08:23 PM) Probably the first time he's heard that in his entire life (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Han, you are awful. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Oct 17 2010, 07:34 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 17 2010, 06:25 PM) Han, you are awful. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Admit it! You thought the same thing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Oct 17 2010, 07:50 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
Do you picture me as some sort of devilish figure that eats children, han? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Oct 17 2010, 08:26 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 17 2010, 06:50 PM) Do you picture me as some sort of devilish figure that eats children, han? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) No I was more thinking along the lines of a woman never having said that to you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Oct 17 2010, 08:50 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 3,129 Joined: 12-February 07 From: Norway Member No.: 3,499 |
Maltese and Italians... both womanizing greaseballs as far as I'm concerned. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Oct 17 2010, 10:01 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,627 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 1,660 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 17 2010, 06:20 AM) Lay off, dude. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 17 2010, 07:41 AM) Kiss any Mou @ss lately blue? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Oct 17 2010, 07:45 AM) Lately? Since forever. QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 17 2010, 07:49 AM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But now he's trying to make it as if Mou will be the mastermind behind the Real win (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/2423212507_bc8cf4e514.jpg) |
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Oct 17 2010, 10:14 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 3,129 Joined: 12-February 07 From: Norway Member No.: 3,499 |
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 17 2010, 11:01 PM) Words cannot describe how unintentionally ironic that was. |
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Oct 17 2010, 10:45 PM
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Dida per sempre Group: Full Members Posts: 4,198 Joined: 25-February 07 From: St. Francis Member No.: 3,563 |
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 17 2010, 05:11 AM) RIP MILAN. We had a good run. Shame it has to be mourinho that puts us in the grave (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Can it, Kreskin. The game hasn't even happened yet, for cripes' sake. |
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Oct 17 2010, 11:09 PM
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Esordienti A 95 Group: Full Members Posts: 976 Joined: 14-March 10 From: Brasil/Chile Member No.: 7,300 |
And even if we lose (we won't), it's not like we're knocked out of the competition.
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Oct 17 2010, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE (Linkman @ Oct 18 2010, 12:09 AM) And even if we lose (we won't), it's not like we're knocked out of the competition. True... we should not act like this match is so important to win... we probably won't win, whatever... |
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Oct 17 2010, 11:38 PM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 7,004 Joined: 5-August 09 From: CTU Member No.: 6,705 |
Blue, what's next? Mourinho's tattoo on your butt?
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Oct 17 2010, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Oct 18 2010, 12:38 AM) Blue, what's next? Mourinho's tattoo on your butt? Now you are assuming he hasn't got one already. |
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Oct 17 2010, 11:59 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
I remember, last year, how everyone gave us for dead against them in Madrid. We won 3-2. This year we're much stronger. True, same thing can be said about Real, but you can never be positive of the result in these games, especially when we're talking of probably the two greatest football clubs in history.
And please, don't act like a douche in your reply. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Oct 18 2010, 12:51 AM
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Esordienti A 95 Group: Full Members Posts: 745 Joined: 25-October 06 From: San Jose, California Member No.: 2,681 |
QUOTE (Linkman @ Oct 17 2010, 03:09 PM) And even if we lose (we won't), it's not like we're knocked out of the competition. + infinity. it's not the end of the world losing to madrid at the bernabeu - with the exception of Marcelo and Pepe, they are a completely world class team. Di maria's pace against zambrotta, c ronaldo marshaled by Antonini, Higuain up top without Thiago Silva, and Ozil in a free role have me thinking skeptically. Our backline is going to need our midfield to cover a LOT of ground in front of them, and i don't think Seedorf and Pirlo together are going to get it done. I like the idea of approaching this game defensively, and trying to play on the counter: I'd play Boateng on the right in front of Zambro, Rino matching up with C-Ron "in front" of Antonini. Pirlo and Dinho given roaming central midfield roles, looking for Ibra posting up or Pato over the top. Knowing how Marcelo and Ramos LOVE to go forward, I think Antonini and Boateng could provide the "shot out of a cannon"-like spark that any team needs to be a good counter attacking team. Seedorf provides neither the tracking back, or sprinting forward I think we'll need. HOWEVER, if we grab a lead, i'd consider removing Ibra for either Robinho or Seedorf late on. Seedorf to sure up the midfield and add another pass master so that when Real pour forward there would be three pass masters capable of fully utilizing Pato's pace, or Robinho for his ability to assist in keeping possession/prevent us from sitting TOO far back and his HUGE APPETITE to find the net and celebrate in front of the Madrid crowd. The latter I'd love to see. At the end of the day, I feel a draw against Mourinho's Madrid, with all their attacking jewels, at the Bernabeu, would be a huge statement of our abilities. A loss would focus our team further, and a win would likely prompt the European media to crown us Champions League favorites. Either way, this match up going to be good for us. Btw, Blue: at this point, for all I know your cheering for Madrid to beat us, just for the sake of your argument! This post has been edited by vnata001: Oct 18 2010, 12:54 AM |
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Oct 18 2010, 01:03 AM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
Agreed. Allegri MUST play Boateng instead of Seedorf. Real's offensive capabilities are enormous. Oezil, Ronaldo, Di Maria, Higuain, they could hurt us bad any moment if let free. We simply can't afford to play with just one (32 years old) DM.
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Oct 18 2010, 07:19 AM
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^^ If Allegri does that, then he proves he actually treats each game differently from a tactical pov and he's indeed a true tactician. if he doesn't however, and plays the usual Pirlo-Seedorf-Gattuso midfield, then.. well let's say I'll be very disappointed in him!
EDIT: great post vnata. completely agreed. This post has been edited by Zed.D: Oct 18 2010, 07:21 AM |
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Oct 18 2010, 09:01 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
+ 1 at vnata.
And agreed with x-off and zeddie. If Seedorf is the one that starts then we're going to have big problems. Having said that, I'm 99.99% sure that Seedorf will be starting, Allegri took him off against Chievo, imo that was as much in preperation for the Real game as it was to give us more stability. All in all we're thinking a lot about Real's attackers, but we need to look at their defence, they have Marcelo on the left, Pepe who can be a real problem for them and Carvalho, he's slow, slower then Nesta, so if Pato can catch him out he's going to be through. Imo we need to play this on the counter, C.Ron imo can easily be marked out, I've seen ODDO of all people do it more then once, and prettyeasily I might add. If you man mark him, frustrate him a couple of times he'll start acting like a douche and have problems getting into it, so Antonini just needs to stick to him like glue, ruffle his feathers a bit by getting physical with him. Higuain can be handled easily by either Nesta and Thiago (if he plays) and Zambrotta imo even though he's not fast is pretty much always in the right position so I'm a little less worried about him coming up against Di Maria, that's why we need to stay tight at the back, and hit them on the counter. They're on their home turf, they'll try to win, so we sit back, frustrate them and hit them on the counter with Pato's speed |
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Oct 18 2010, 10:24 AM
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man.... I love how one single sentence can stir this forum up so much (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
@xoff: (IMG:http://www.notasdefutbol.com/images/mourinho3.jpg) This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Oct 18 2010, 10:25 AM |
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Oct 18 2010, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE (Locke Lamora @ Oct 17 2010, 03:14 PM) Words cannot describe how unintentionally ironic that was. (IMG:http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00484/Jose_Mourinho_484350a.jpg) (IMG:http://www.notasdefutbol.com/images/mourinho3.jpg) |
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Oct 18 2010, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE (vnata001 @ Oct 17 2010, 05:51 PM) Btw, Blue: at this point, for all I know your cheering for Madrid to beat us, just for the sake of your argument! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) If you truly believe that then I have no comment to make (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) This post has been edited by Bluesummers: Oct 18 2010, 10:28 AM |
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Oct 18 2010, 11:43 AM
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Loves Greek Women esp Fay Group: Moderators Posts: 14,924 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Bangalore,India Member No.: 1,865 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 18 2010, 01:31 PM) Imo we need to play this on the counter, C.Ron imo can easily be marked out, I've seen ODDO of all people do it more then once, and prettyeasily I might add. Different Oddo. Different Milan. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) That night we were seeing the second best RB in Italy at work. |
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Oct 18 2010, 11:55 AM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 3,129 Joined: 12-February 07 From: Norway Member No.: 3,499 |
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Oct 18 2010, 11:27 AM) (IMG:http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00484/Jose_Mourinho_484350a.jpg) (IMG:http://www.notasdefutbol.com/images/mourinho3.jpg) Not really what I meant, but go on, I'm sure you'll figure it out eventually... |
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