[arivanjj]

There are reports from Italy that Arsenal midfielder Mathieu Flamini has told teammates that he will be joining Milan next season.

The talented Frenchman has rebuffed the Gunners’ new contract offers and looks set to leave the Emirates Stadium when his current deal expires at the end of the season.

Juventus were thought to be leading the pack of sides chasing his signature, but, according to the Corriere dello Sport, he has his heart set on the Rossoneri.

“I have decided that I will be going to Milan,” Flamini allegedly said in the dressing room.

Manager Arsene Wenger seems to have resigned himself to Flamini’s departure, leaving him free to discuss personal terms with the Diavolo once the current campaign is over.

Milan are reportedly ready to offer a four-year deal worth around £3m per season to lure the free agent.


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[Locke Lamora]

If we sell Flamini for 3m...WTF is going on here?
Last year he was fighting for his place in the team, and after ONE good season he decides to leave?

[acid911]

If we sell Flamini for 3m...WTF is going on here?

With all the recent interactions (games, news stories, speculations, transfers) between Milan and Arsenal, things should be pretty interesting for you, eh, Locke? It's hard to be in love with two top teams at the same time these days. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) And we've been hearing everything and anything from Adebayor to Flamini being linked to Milan.

My heart pretty much sank when we drew with you guys in the Knockout Stages. Arsenal is a club I very much respect, and knew whatever outcome of those games be, things will rattle up a bit. We'd have been slightly better with any other team, but oh well, that's done is done. Having said that, I'd loved to have seen Arsenal lift the Champions Trophy this year.

I'm in the neutrals zone when it comes to Flamini. At least someone is coming. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[dst]

If we sell Flamini for 3m...WTF is going on here?

You are not going to sell... he'll be a free agent in the summer... if Flamini leaves Arsenal, it'll be a grand double blow for the Gooners; not only will they lost a very reliable player (in my opinion their best this season) but they also going to lose him for free...

[kurtsimonw]

Last year he was fighting for his place in the team, and after ONE good season he decides to leave?

To some people money talks more than ambition, this is obviously the case for him.

[Rossoneri7]

Oh .. So he doesn't want the champion league (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

[dst]

Oh .. So he doesn't want the champion league (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

He care more about the money...

[Locke Lamora]

Okay, until any official staments from either Milan, Arsenal or Flamini himself comes out, I'll keep away from all these rumours...

[Zed.D]

He care more about the money...

Everyone cares about the money. don't make it sound like it's something uncommon! he's young and it wouldn't be a disaster if he missed one season of playing in the CL so the fact that he's [supposedly] chosen Milan over Juve doesn't necessarily mean he only thinks about money.

[Minami]

I don't know much about Flamini, but we need new some more defenders and he is not bad.

Moreover he's for free and quite young. So why not buying him?

But as Locke has said, I won't believe this as long as it's not official.

But I heard that he wanted to leave arsenal before. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[morgoth]

To some people money talks more than ambition, this is obviously the case for him.

So, you think it's not ambitious to leave Arsenal for Milan? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

[Zed.D]

So, you think it's not ambitious to leave Arsenal for Milan? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

+1

[kurtsimonw]

So, you think it's not ambitious to leave Arsenal for Milan? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Nope. Arsenal are a very young team who are doing well in their league. Milan are a very old team who aren't doing very well in their league. Not to mention what they did to us in the head-to-head games.

[Zed.D]

Nope. Arsenal are a very young team who are doing well in their league. Milan are a very old team who aren't doing very well in their league. Not to mention what they did to us in the head-to-head games.

Interesting... Milan are not supposed to be an old team forever. it's clear he has a better chance of winning something important with Milan.

This post has been edited by zdrossoneri: May 1 2008, 02:23 PM

[morgoth]

Nope. Arsenal are a very young team who are doing well in their league. Milan are a very old team who aren't doing very well in their league. Not to mention what they did to us in the head-to-head games.

Wow, I never thought someone can compare Arsenal to Milan, let alone think that they match us in term of prestige (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

You think Milan is going to have the same squad forever? A lot of players are going to leave in the next two years, Galliani said several times that he wants some young players for the future, and clearly stated our objective for next year : Il Campionato!

Players usually sign for a club for the future not the past, so they don't care if you were not doing well in the championship for, let's say the last 3 years, they come to acheave something and they choose the best club that can give them this chance. Flamini had the choice between Milan and the zebras, why do you think he choose us? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I think you over estimate Arsenal and the English clubs, actually they don't even come close to the likes of Milan and Madrid, there's only diverpool and man u who come close to this elite, and they're a step down with Bayern, Ajax and Co.

This post has been edited by morgoth: May 1 2008, 02:43 PM

[han2503]

If this is actually true then I'll be more happy then if we get R10.

Imo he's been the best defensive mid this season, if we get him we'll sell Brocchi along with Puma and we'll be more then covered in the defensive mid area

Flamini, Rino, Ambro.

Quality, youth and experiance

And lets face it, getting a player like him free is amazing and won't happen often

This post has been edited by han2503: May 1 2008, 03:06 PM

[kurtsimonw]

Wow, I never thought someone can compare Arsenal to Milan, let alone think that they match us in term of prestige (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Players usually sign for a club for the future not the past, so they don't care if you were not doing well in the championship for

I think you over estimate Arsenal and the English clubs, actually they don't even come close to the likes of Milan and Madrid, there's only diverpool and man u who come close to this elite, and they're a step down with Bayern, Ajax and Co.

You say they sign for a club for the future, and not the past. So what does the prestige of Milan have to do with anything. Yes, we were great in the past, but there's no certainty that we will be in the future.

I over-estimate English clubs? I dunno about that. The Premier League is very strong, and it's not just 1 team that carries the league. In the last 3 years, we've had 4 DIFFERENT representatives in the European Cup Final, I think it'd be difficult to find another league that has done that over a decade, forget a 3 years period.

It's clear you don't like the Premier League anyways. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: May 1 2008, 03:35 PM

[KillerMax]

There is no certainty that I will live tomorrow...

Well... Actually there is. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But you get my point!

[Zed.D]

There is no certainty that I will live tomorrow...

Well... Actually there is. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) But you get my point!

??

[acid911]

Everyone cares about the money. don't make it sound like it's something uncommon! he's young and it wouldn't be a disaster if he missed one season of playing in the CL so the fact that he's [supposedly] chosen Milan over Juve doesn't necessarily mean he only thinks about money.

Not everyone. Paolo gets less than a million a year, while Nesta around 6 million. Sure there is a difference between them, Sandro is in his peak, and most probably plays more matches, but when it comes to putting in the effort they both do the same. Maldini even puts up more. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

At the other end of the spectrum you've got a Juve legend like Del Piero contemplating leaving for another club just because of a few coins. Case in point: There are a whole lot of players who still don't give a hoot about $$$. Ronaldo is another. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[acid911]

It's clear you don't like the Premier League anyways.

Neither do I, but at the same time I respect the fact that they're the number one league in the world. Having three teams in the final four of Europe for all these years, is no fluke, of course. You have to be the best to stay the best. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) It's just that I prefer an alternate style of football than the one we witnessed yesterday in the Chelsea vs Pool match.

Short passes, and technical play rules the world. Hehe. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[Darunia]

This isn't a very reliable source or quote.. I don't know if he said that or not. I think we're getting closer though. The "deadline" is over.

[Rossoneri7]

He care more about the money...

Well, yeah .. But he could earn the same if he moved to Juve, considering he moves there on a free too. Moreover, Juve have guaranteed CL football, and they are still building a team in comparison to Milan.

[morgoth]

You say they sign for a club for the future, and not the past. So what does the prestige of Milan have to do with anything. Yes, we were great in the past, but there's no certainty that we will be in the future.

I over-estimate English clubs? I dunno about that. The Premier League is very strong, and it's not just 1 team that carries the league. In the last 3 years, we've had 4 DIFFERENT representatives in the European Cup Final, I think it'd be difficult to find another league that has done that over a decade, forget a 3 years period.

It's clear you don't like the Premier League anyways. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Ok, I talked about prestige just because you said it's not ambitious to quit Arsenal for Milan! The prestige is related to the history of the club, when I talked about the past I meant the 2-3 past years!

The EPL is not strong it's quite weak to be honest. Having 4 very good teams when the rest of the clubs are at best average, doesn't mean that the league is strong! The difference between the top club and the rest is so huge that you can hardly talk about a championship, let alone a strong one!

[kurtsimonw]

The EPL is not strong it's quite weak to be honest. Having 4 very good teams when the rest of the clubs are at best average, doesn't mean that the league is strong! The difference between the top club and the rest is so huge that you can hardly talk about a championship, let alone a strong one!

It's the same in most leagues, even worse. How close exactly is Serie A and La Liga?

As a supporter of the team that's going to finish 5th/6th I'm offended by that. To call us average is just unfair, only Arsenal and United have scored more goals than us, and only Fabregas has more assists than our Ashley Young! At best average? You do realise the team that's going to finish in the bottom 5 - Middlesbrough - made a UEFA Cup Final recently? Everton and Spurs did well in the UEFA Cup this year - only to lose on penalties.

Before you talk about how uncompetitive the Premier League is, look at other leagues first. La Liga and Serie A are as good as over. With only 2 games left, 3 teams can win the Premier League.

[Tennie]

I think that the EPL/Serie A/ La Liga discussion really just boils down to a matter of personal preference.

Some prefer one league over another. It doesn't necessarily mean that the league they prefer is better or that the others are populated by nothing but Kaladzities. It's just a matter of what the individual in question enjoys. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Speaking for myself, I prefer Serie A followed by the Bundesliga and La Liga (in that order). I just don't - in general terms - enjoy watching the style of play that one generally sees in the EPL. It bores me to tears. I'll also note that I'm very much the minority among my friends here in DC. They all think the EPL is the bestest ever.

So...personal preference seems to rule this one. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[whoarethepatriot...]

If this is actually true then I'll be more happy then if we get R10.

Imo he's been the best defensive mid this season, if we get him we'll sell Brocchi along with Puma and we'll be more then covered in the defensive mid area

Flamini, Rino, Ambro.

Quality, youth and experiance

And lets face it, getting a player like him free is amazing and won't happen often

I am for getting rid of Brocchi and Emo, but we must replace them. Even then, we should retain Brocchi, purely because he counts as a homegrown player

Unless of course the replacements are ex-primavera

This post has been edited by whoarethepatriots: May 1 2008, 11:04 PM

[morgoth]

It's the same in most leagues, even worse. How close exactly is Serie A and La Liga?

As a supporter of the team that's going to finish 5th/6th I'm offended by that. To call us average is just unfair, only Arsenal and United have scored more goals than us, and only Fabregas has more assists than our Ashley Young! At best average? You do realise the team that's going to finish in the bottom 5 - Middlesbrough - made a UEFA Cup Final recently? Everton and Spurs did well in the UEFA Cup this year - only to lose on penalties.

Before you talk about how uncompetitive the Premier League is, look at other leagues first. La Liga and Serie A are as good as over. With only 2 games left, 3 teams can win the Premier League.

No it's not the same in the other leagues. The difference between the level of the top 4 and the rest is HUGE in England! In Italy teams like Fiorentina, Udinese, Sampdoria, Napoli, Lazio, Parma and even Palermo can easily defeat one of the top teams and produce a great football! In Spain it's the same thing, Valencia, Depor, Sevilla, Villarreal, l'Atletico. Check out the last decade and tell me how many teams (apart from the top 4 in Italy and Engalnd + Real and Barça) from each country reached the semis or the final of a European cup, and we'll talk again.

P.S. It could be the fact that I don't rate the English football though (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Edit. Tennie, I don't think it's, in my case, a matter of preference, I just think and always thought it's easier to play in England than in any other championship (Italy, Spain, France and Germany). That's why I don't rate the English football, the tactic and defensive skills are just ... well, let's just leave it at that (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by morgoth: May 1 2008, 11:09 PM

[kurtsimonw]

No it's not the same in the other leagues. The difference between the level of the top 4 and the rest is HUGE in England! In Italy teams like Fiorentina, Udinese, Sampdoria, Napoli, Lazio, Parma and even Palermo can easily defeat one of the top teams and produce a great football! In Spain it's the same thing, Valencia, Depor, Sevilla, Villarreal, l'Atletico. Check out the last decade and tell me how many teams (apart from the top 4 in Italy and Engalnd + Real and Barça) from each country reached the semis or the final of a European cup, and we'll talk again.

P.S. It could be the fact that I don't rate the English football though (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Villa, Everton, Spurs, Portsmouth, West Ham and Man City are all capable of beating the big 4. For example, we picked up 4 points off Chelsea this season, and on all of our away trips to the big 4, we only lost 1 game.

As for the European Cup, no country has produced more winners than England - 4 teams. (And that's considering 2 of our big 4 have never won it).

But like Tennie said, I suppose it is personal preference, I'm sure we can all find an arguement for each league.

[Locke Lamora]

,That's why I don't rate the English football, the tactic and defensive skills are just ... well, let's just leave it at that (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

And how many goals did the Italian teams against the English teams in 6 matches? And how many did they win?

[Rossoneri7]

And how many goals did the Italian teams against the English teams in 6 matches? And how many did they win?

Erm .. You do notice this is a milanfan forum ?! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Erm .. You do notice this is a milanfan forum ?!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

Yes, but we're surely allowed to debate on things not involving Milan. Otherwise I welcomely offer one of the mods to lock it if they feel it inappropriate.

[Tennie]

I have an idea!

How about we all agree to disagree on the issue, let it drop, and all go out for cookies and the liquid refreshment of our choice? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

I have an idea!

How about we all agree to disagree on the issue, let it drop, and all go out for cookies and the liquid refreshment of our choice? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Yeah, I have a paper due in tomorrow as well, I've yet to start it because of this damn forum. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[morgoth]

Villa, Everton, Spurs, Portsmouth, West Ham and Man City are all capable of beating the big 4. For example, we picked up 4 points off Chelsea this season, and on all of our away trips to the big 4, we only lost 1 game.

As for the European Cup, no country has produced more winners than England - 4 teams. (And that's considering 2 of our big 4 have never won it).

But like Tennie said, I suppose it is personal preference, I'm sure we can all find an arguement for each league.

Of course, every team has it chances to beat another one, but I'm talking about the continuity, the quality of the play ... etc.

European cups? Ok, lets start just since 1993 (since it's called The EUFA Champions League) 15 finals.

CL :
Italy : 10 times in the final (Milan and zebra)
Spain : 7 times in the final (Real, Barça, Valencia)
Germany : 4 times in the final (Bayern, Dortmund, Leverkusen)
England : 4 times in the final (Man U, Diverpool, Arsenal)
France : 2 times in the final (Marseille and Monaco)
Holland : 2 times in the final (Ajax)
Portugal : 1 time in the final (Porto)

Eufa Cup:
Italy : 8 times in the final (merda, Lazio, Parma, zebra)
Spain : 5 times in the final (Sevilla, Espayol, Valencia, Alaves)
Germany : 4 times in the final (Bayern, Dortmund, Schalke)
England : 3 times in the final (Middlesbrough, Diverpool, Arsenal)
France : 3 times in the final (Marseille, Bordeaux)
Portugal : 2 time in the final (Porto, Sporting)
Holland : 1 time in the final (Feyenoord)
Russian : 1 time in the final (CSKA)
Turkey : 1 time in the final (Galatasaray)
Scotland : 1 time in the final (Celtic)
Austria : 1 time in the final (Salzburg)

Wonder where did you find those 4 English clubs that have won a European Cup? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

[Locke Lamora]

Erm .. You do notice this is a milanfan forum ?!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

Well I wasn't the one who started the EPL vs. Serie A discussion was I? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

[morgoth]

And how many goals did the Italian teams against the English teams in 6 matches? And how many did they win?

To make a good point you should look at the last 10 years and make the stats, it would be more fair than 1 year (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Well I wasn't the one who started the EPL vs. Serie A discussion was I? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

No your not (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

We have said this tones of times, it's a matter of preference. But if you guys wanna have a go at it, please be my guest and open up a thread for the sole purpose of comparing leagues (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Of course, every team has it chances to beat another one, but I'm talking about the continuity, the quality of the play ... etc.

European cups? Ok, lets start just since 1993 (since it's called The EUFA Champions League) 15 finals.


Wonder where did you find those 4 English clubs that have won a European Cup? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

But you're basically saying "Okay, let's start whenever I feel like it, because it makes the EPL look bad" You do realise England dominated Europe from the 70s all the way through to the late 80s? When did the dominance stop - when we were kicked out, the teams were at a disadvantage when they were let back in as they weren't getting all the money from being in Europe like the other clubs were, and only recently recovered thanks to the huge tv money we're not getting.

And even with the stas you've give, Italy only has 2 teams that've made finals. England have had 3. Like you said, 2 teams don't make a great league, it needs depth.

England have 4 winners - Liverpool, Man U, Forest and Villa (Possibly Chelsea to add to that - no other country has 4. And most of these trophies were won when it was known as the European Cup, not the Champions League. I have always prefered the old format - mainly because it was a competition for Champions (Since when did finishing 4th place make you a Champion? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ).

[Locke Lamora]

To make a good point you should look at the last 10 years and make the stats, it would be more fair than 1 year (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Going back 10 years means that you can include players who are now retired, and as far as I know retired players don't have much of an effect on the current strenght of any leagues...

[kurtsimonw]

Anyways, I think R7 is right. If we want a discussion like this, it needs to go in another thread of it's own.

Otherwise we'll be like Jack, the forum villain, just hijacking threads as he pleases!

[morgoth]

But you're basically saying "Okay, let's start whenever I feel like it, because it makes the EPL look bad" You do realise England dominated Europe from the 70s all the way through to the late 80s? When did the dominance stop - when we were kicked out, the teams were at a disadvantage when they were let back in as they weren't getting all the money from being in Europe like the other clubs were, and only recently recovered thanks to the huge tv money we're not getting.

And even with the stas you've give, Italy only has 2 teams that've made finals. England have had 3. Like you said, 2 teams don't make a great league, it needs depth.

England have 4 winners - Liverpool, Man U, Forest and Villa (Possibly Chelsea to add to that - no other country has 4. And most of these trophies were won when it was known as the European Cup, not the Champions League. I have always prefered the old format - mainly because it was a competition for Champions (Since when did finishing 4th place make you a Champion?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) ).

Thanks man, you went where I wanted you to go (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) It's a matter of period of dominance, and up until now the Italian and Spanish football is better compared to the English one. Maybe you'll have the upper hand in 3-4 years (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Oh, and where is Villa and Forest now? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) You know Uruguay won 2 World Cups too, are they a great football country? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Now go finish your homework (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Oh, and where is Villa and Forest now?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Now go finish your homework (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Villa are doing just fine! We're 6th in the league!

It aint gonna happen, I'll just have to make up some excuse, either that or be up until 4 in the morning again. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

[morgoth]

Going back 10 years means that you can include players who are now retired, and as far as I know retired players don't have much of an effect on the current strenght of any leagues...

Maybe not the current but you'll have a better idea, if you want you can make the stats for the past generation (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[KillerMax]

I hate you all and you're friendly little discussions... What happened to you bunch? Why no insults and childish remarks? Why all the grown up discussions... I'm falling asleep over here with my donuts policing this lovingly neighborhood... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Bluesummers]

sigh..... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I'm not even gonna comment on the epl vs serie A discussion because its pointless. Both leagues have good teams that can make it to the top level. This year england produced great results and next year it may be different. Barca is stockin up, inter and milan are stockin up same with bayern so it will be even tougher.


now on the real discussion- flamini:

reasons:

1) he chose milan over zebra because we pay 4 million and zebra would pay only 3 and arsenal would pay near 2.5 mil.

2) Hes garunteed playing time and will eventually be molded into carlo's tactics efficiently. Coach loves him, which is always a bonus when your moving to a new club.

3) Milan are in the top 5 best teams in the world and we have always been consistent in the champions league and we usually win a trophy per season, whatever it may be.

4) He is french and he seems to like serie A personally. I've read before in interview where he said something like serie a and epl are his favs.

5) He's tired of epl and arsenal and wengers style and wants a new team.

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: May 2 2008, 07:15 AM

[Zed.D]

^^

End of story. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[han2503]

I hate you all and you're friendly little discussions... What happened to you bunch? Why no insults and childish remarks? Why all the grown up discussions... I'm falling asleep over here with my donuts policing this lovingly neighborhood... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

You just want to use your super special powers now that you have that shiny new badge (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[dst]

Everyone cares about the money. don't make it sound like it's something uncommon! he's young and it wouldn't be a disaster if he missed one season of playing in the CL so the fact that he's [supposedly] chosen Milan over Juve doesn't necessarily mean he only thinks about money.

I did not say he only cares about the money. I said he cares more. And I meant that more money and (possibly) no CL for a season is his preferred option compared to less money + and (possible) and extra season of CL football...

I did not judge him for that. I have no right to do this anyway... and I can't say I would not do the same... besides, even if we don't qualify he'll still have more chances to win it with Milan than with Juve in the following years.

[Zed.D]

I did not say he only cares about the money. I said he cares more. And I meant that more money and (possibly) no CL for a season is his preferred option compared to less money + and (possible) and extra season of CL football...

I did not judge him for that. I have no right to do this anyway... and I can't say I would not do the same... besides, even if we don't qualify he'll still have more chances to win it with Milan than with Juve in the following years.

ٍEven though I think Juve will surprise us in the CL next season, but that's right.

[Darunia]

I think Juve is good but I really can't seem them beating any English team.

Anyways I hope we hear something official, Wenger says it'll be handled in the next 1-2 days probably.

[Bluesummers]

Flamini Demanding Sky-High Wages For Gunners Stay
Arsenal midfielder Mathieu Flamini is almost certain to leave on a free transfer this summer, insisting the Gunners must match the £144,000 per week currently tabled by Milan to persuade him to stay...



This astonishing wage demand reported by the Daily Mail would make the tireless midfielder one of the most well-paid players in the world. It would also surely signal the end for the player's time at Arsenal, who are notoriously stringent with their wage structure.

Italian giants Milan are able to table such high sums in wages due to no transfer fee being paid to the club for the Frenchman, as his contract expires at the end of this season.



It has been a long-running saga in which Italian rivals Juventus had long led the way, but Milan, seeking reinforcements for the aging Gennaro Gattuso and Massimo Ambrosini, look like they may have pipped the Old Lady to the 24-year-old.

Manager Arsene Wenger had previously set a deadline of the end of April for Flamini to decide on his future, but has now given him extra time - reportedly, until Monday morning - to make his decision.

Regarding the saga, Wenger insists the player wants to stay - so it could well be the agent engineering the move - but ultimately, the club looks unlikely to meet his demands.

"Mathieu could answer the question on his future much better than I could," sighed Wenger. "At the moment, we have no news from him but, at the latest, we expect it to be decided over the weekend.

"He tells me he wants to stay and I want him to stay, but it will be down to numbers as well and we want to respect our wage structure. It is also important to keep the core of the team together."

Flamini was signed by Arsenal on a free from his hometown club, Marseille, in 2004.

WE GOT MONEY!!!!!! WE GOT MONAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TAKE THAT UP YOUR **** WENGA!~

This post has been edited by Bluesummers: May 2 2008, 05:44 PM

[Zed.D]

^^

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

But... there are a few teams that can outbid us the way we outbid Arsenal. economically, we're nothing compared to Man U, Real, Chelsea. we might have as much money [as R7 would say], but we surely don't fvcking spend it... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[Tennie]

Er. It's the Daily Mail. Not particularly reliable. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) And everyone already knew Milan were offering more than the Gooners.

[Bluesummers]

Er. It's the Daily Mail. Not particularly reliable. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) And everyone already knew Milan were offering more than the Gooners.

which is good. I'm glad were trying hard to win these contracts over.

[Locke Lamora]

Mathieu Flamini's future will be sorted out by the start of next week.

Arsène Wenger had set the end of April as the deadline for the out-of-contract midfielder to decide his future. However "negotiation problems" have held up the process. Now, the Arsenal manager expects a resolution by Monday.

“It will be sorted out over the weekend," said Wenger. "Will he stay or not? That is down to him but the deadline is Sunday, Monday latest.

"The deadline moved for negotiation problems. Only he could tell you [whether he will go or not]. For me yes he stays, but does he tell me the complete truth, I don’t know.

"Ideally I want him to stay, but he’s free. That means if you get £2million here, £4 million somewhere else, you can go to the one who gives you four, or you can as well stay to the one who gives you two.

“He is free to make a decision and you have to accept the market. You listen to everybody in Europe and take some time, that’s why the situation has lasted a little bit. But overall he’s free to go where he wants. You have to accept that because he’s not linked by a contract.

Flamini has been superb for Arsenal this season but, although Wenger wants him to stay, the manager is confident that his side would cope if he did decide to go.

“[If he goes] we will find a solution, don’t worry," said the 58-year-old.

[ Friday, May 02, 2008]

[morgoth]

£144,000 for ... Flamini (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Quote of the week!

P.S. Does anyone knows how much Kaka is paid?

Edit. I've just checked Kaka is paid 750,000€ a month which is actually kind of ... £144,000 a week (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

This post has been edited by morgoth: May 2 2008, 10:22 PM

[I_Rossoneri]

Have the Daily Mail got their pound and euro mixed up? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I suppose if we're paying Dida £80,000 per week to watch games, then £144,000 for Flamini to actually play isn't too bad (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

£144,000 a week! I bet I don't earn that in 10 years! Crazy money.

[Rossoneri7]

Have the Daily Mail got their pound and euro mixed up? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I suppose if we're paying Dida £80,000 per week to watch games, then £144,000 for Flamini to actually play isn't too bad (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I doubt, 144K/week in Euros or Pounds ... It's a staggering figure, someone like Ronaldinho or Ronaldo, but not Falmini. I guess it's the British tabloids at their best (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Bluesummers]

I doubt, 144K/week in Euros or Pounds ... It's a staggering figure, someone like Ronaldinho or Ronaldo, but not Falmini. I guess it's the British tabloids at their best (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

whatever 4 million a year comes to is what we are paying him.

[Darunia]

comes to 60k per week I believe

[mkenya]

Before you talk about how uncompetitive the Premier League is, look at other leagues first. La Liga and Serie A are as good as over. With only 2 games left, 3 teams can win the Premier League.

[/quote]


Premiership is cr*p! Competition is not only about 4 teams!! its the league as a whole!!! look at the gap in terms of points between the 1st and the last teams in EPL, SerieA and La Liga and you'll get the point!

Premiership competition is only vested in the big 4 and their style of play is so boring: long balls, brute and fast...

Example one thing that i noticed in Man U v Barca is that at no single point did Van de Sar start play from behind!! yet his opposite always started play from the back...Man U couldn't keep possession because of their English style of play...

the only team that's interesting to watch in EPL is Arsenal, their style of play is like Milan's only that its faster and their players are younger...that's how they managed to beat us at our own game!

[I_Rossoneri]

[quote=mkenya,May 3 2008, 07:17 AM]
Before you talk about how uncompetitive the Premier League is, look at other leagues first. La Liga and Serie A are as good as over. With only 2 games left, 3 teams can win the Premier League.

[/quote]
Premiership is cr*p! Competition is not only about 4 teams!! its the league as a whole!!! look at the gap in terms of points between the 1st and the last teams in EPL, SerieA and La Liga and you'll get the point!

Premiership competition is only vested in the big 4 and their style of play is so boring: long balls, brute and fast...

Example one thing that i noticed in Man U v Barca is that at no single point did Van de Sar start play from behind!! yet his opposite always started play from the back...Man U couldn't keep possession because of their English style of play...

the only team that's interesting to watch in EPL is Arsenal, their style of play is like Milan's only that its faster and their players are younger...that's how they managed to beat us at our own game!

[/quote]

Excellent post (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Premiership is cr*p! Competition is not only about 4 teams!! its the league as a whole!!! look at the gap in terms of points between the 1st and the last teams in EPL, SerieA and La Liga and you'll get the point!

Premiership competition is only vested in the big 4 and their style of play is so boring: long balls, brute and fast...

Example one thing that i noticed in Man U v Barca is that at no single point did Van de Sar start play from behind!! yet his opposite always started play from the back...Man U couldn't keep possession because of their English style of play...

the only team that's interesting to watch in EPL is Arsenal, their style of play is like Milan's only that its faster and their players are younger...that's how they managed to beat us at our own game!

Where do people get the idea that this league only has 4 teams? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

What you think is boring, doesn't mean that it IS boring. It's just a different style, the EPL is a fast paced game. As for the team that finished last in the EPL this year, it's a one off, they the worst team in EPL history, so to use them as an example of what the EPL is always like is unfair.

The teams in 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th in the EPL have more points than those in the same positions in Serie A, so I don't get why you think we only have 4 teams, when our mid-table teams are getting more points than Serie As. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Meh, it's all opinion. Barca had all the posession, and what did they do with it? Nothing, against a league who's defenders are supposedly crap as well. When a team like Barca - who's meant to be great - has tonned of posession and can't score 1 goal over 180 minutes against sh!t defenders, well.. it doesn't make sense really does it.

[Il Capitano]

According to the site calciomercato Flamini gets 5.6 million.

I hope thats not true.

WTF

[m1ke]

According to reports in Italy this evening, Mathieu Flamini has put pen to paper on a Milan contract after rejecting Arsenal’s terms.

The midfielder’s future has been up in the air for some time, as his contract with the Gunners expires at the end of the season.

Arsene Wenger extended the deadline for Flamini to give an answer to Monday, but that probably won’t be necessary.

According to Sky Italia, the French star has already signed a four-year contract worth £4.3m per season.

It is a slight change from the expected five-year deal worth £3.1m per term that had been mentioned in the Press.

Juventus had also been in the race to snatch up Flamini, but Milan appear to have secured his signature or at the very least a promise.

There is no official word as yet from either Arsenal or the Rossoneri.

“It will be sorted out over the weekend, and will he stay or not is down to him,” said Wenger earlier today.

“But we cannot afford not to keep our wage structure. We have a £360m debt and we have to respect the structure or we will go bust.”

Flamini had been offered a contract worth in the region of £55,000 per week.

Alexander Hleb is in a similar situation and has repeatedly been linked with Inter – something the Nerazzurri have firmly denied.

[m1ke]

If it's true, it's quite a lot of money for a young DM - no doubt increased because of other interested parties.

I hope he's worth it (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[TriniKing_CE]

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Bluesummers]

If it's true, it's quite a lot of money for a young DM - no doubt increased because of other interested parties.

I hope he's worth it (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

show me the monayyyyyyy dolla dolla ! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

[whoarethepatriot...]

Sounds good and to put an end to the debate, its around £60k pw, roughly 10k more than he gets. Now sell Emerson, bring in another (recall ex primavera whatever) DM, sell Brocchi and we look set for solid foundations.

Still need a worthy backup to Seedorf, a centre defender and one or two full backs (depending on whether we dispose of Favalli and Sergio

[Tennie]

The Italian article in question is on datasport. The Euro figures they're quoting are E 5.5 million for four years.

Nothing official anywhere else and nothing yet on Mediaset.

[Darunia]

I'm expecting something official Monday, we'll see though. Maybe tomorrow if Milan beats Inter (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Tennie]

Ah. Okay, it's showing up on Mediaset now. They're quoting Sky Italia - checked /their/ website and nothing yet. Probably the announcement, such as it is, took place during a television broadcast.

[Darunia]

The numbers they are quoting don't make sense, our wage structure:

Our wage structure is:
1 Kaka 9000000
-------------------------
69 Ronaldo Lima 4020000
70 Andrea Pirlo 4020000
71 Alessandro Nesta 4020000
72 Clarence Seedorf 4020000
73 Filippo Inzaghi 4020000
74 Gennaro Gattuso 4020000
75 Nelson Dida 4020000
76 Kakha Kaladze 4020000
-------------------------
98 Alberto Gilardino 3480000
99 Massimo Ambrosini 3480000
-------------------------
110 Emerson Rosa 3180000
111 Marek Jankuslovski 3180000
-------------------------
183 Paolo Maldini 1980000
184 Giuseppe Favalli 1980000
185 Daniele Bonera 1980000
186 Serginho 1980000
187 Massimo Oddo 1980000
188 Marcus Cafu 1980000
189 Alexandre Pato 1980000

at 5.5m euros he would be one of the highest paid players in Serie A wouldn't he?

[Rossoneri7]

at 5.5m euros he would be one of the highest paid players in Serie A wouldn't he?

He would .. If that was per season.

[han2503]

There's no way that he would be payed more then Kaka, he'll probably get as much as Pirlo, Nesta, Rino, Clarence, etc...

The media will speculate all they want about numbers but it will brobably be in that region

[aLbErTo]

kaka has much more since his new(latest) contract signing

[han2503]

kaka has much more since his new(latest) contract signing

Yeah but with the ammount the media are speculating Flamini could start to make as much as him.

As I said, I think his wage will be around the ones Nesta and the other starters make. The media will continue to speculate numbers until the deal is done and even then they will continue to speculate

[Rossoneri7]

Yeah but with the ammount the media are speculating Flamini could start to make as much as him.

As I said, I think his wage will be around the ones Nesta and the other starters make. The media will continue to speculate numbers until the deal is done and even then they will continue to speculate

I believe so, unless the player himself makes it public

[CrazyMilanFan]

The Guardian has confirmed this morning that french midfielder Mathieu Flamini has already found an agreement with AC Milan i think guardian is one of better newspaper in england

[acid911]

Welcome to the party, CrazyMilanFan. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[agenth]

"Flamini? Arriva a Milano questa sera, se supererà le visite mediche domani sarà un giocatore del Milan."

on the official page. apparently he just has to pass the medicals, and then he's officially a Rossonero (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

[CrazyMilanFan]

yea that is what gallani said that he is a milan player for sure but sivio comments on R10 are shocking

[agenth]

why are you talking about R10 in the Flamini thread (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ?

anyway, what did he say xD?

[Tennie]

(Just posted the translation on the Ronaldinho thread. Basically, Berlusconi stated that he's not sure Ronaldinho is what Milan needs.)

Good news about Flamini coming to Milan for the medical. Let's hope he passes it! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[MizNelson]

(Just posted the translation on the Ronaldinho thread. Basically, Berlusconi stated that he's not sure Ronaldinho is what Milan needs.)

Egad, Don Silvio making sense for a change? We should mark this day. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Locke Lamora]

He was at the Everton match today...wearing an Arsenal jacket...

[Zed.D]

He was at the Everton match today...wearing an Arsenal jacket...

So...?

[Locke Lamora]

So...?

Nothing...just reflecting on the vastly differing senses of loyality abundant in todays game...

[Zed.D]

Nothing...just reflecting on the vastly differing senses of loyality abundant in todays game...

*sigh*

Personally I don't blame him because I think it wasn't just for money. I mean we'll be playing in the CL and we've always had more chance of winning the CL than Arsenal. what I mean is, when we have a bad season, it start from a bad season and end to a bad season. when we have a good season, it usually ends with silverware. but it's not like this for Arsenal. few months ago Arsenal was still in the CL and on the top of the EPL and badly on form, the talk of a double was all over the place. but they're going to end the season empty handed. not all the players accept this and it seems Flamini is one of those, those who always dare for more. I think if Arsenal don't change some things in their team, likes of Cesc and Hleb will consider leaving too...

[Jack Sparrow]

I understand Locke that you might be pissed, but I do think while you have a point when you say Flamini owes it to the club, there's also a counter point, that the club owes a little bit to Flamini. He has been among their best players this season, and he deserves a pay rise. It's one thing to cite wage structure when we talk about sums like the 100k + that Chelsea commands. But look at it from Flamini's point of view.

When Wes Brown is earning more than him, surely he has a point when he states I want to earn a comparable salary?

I have no doubts in my mind, that if Arsenal had offered him the whereabouts of Milan's salary, he would have stayed.

Now how is this different from Cashley Cole.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) He didn't sign up for another English club. I'm sure his agent could have approached Manchester City or even Newcastle.

[kurtsimonw]

I wuldn't worry Locke. Flamini has, in my opinion, had 1 good season for you, and you've won nothing in that season. You've won things before Flamini and you'll win them after Flamini, no question.

[Darunia]

So he's doing medical around this time correct? Hope to see him in a Milan shirt today (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Locke Lamora]

I'm not pissed, far from it.
I'm fully aware that Flamini thinks and acts just like hundreds of other football players, they are workers after all, and if one boss offers more than another...
My thoughts were just going back to the likes of Adams, Winterburn, Dixon, Keown, Seaman and off course Bergkamp, great players who stayed with us through thick and thin...hell, Bergkamp accepted his 1-year contracts and place on the bench even though he got better offers from other clubs were he would have earned, played and won more.

[Darunia]

He left Marsielle controversially, why do you think he'll be loyal to Arsenal after one season as a starter? He won't be loyal to Milan either, it's not in his personality (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

[Il Capitano]

I'm waiting for the contract details, he is not worthy of 5.6 mil.

This post has been edited by Il Capitano: May 4 2008, 08:34 PM

[morgoth]

Egad, Don Silvio making sense for a change? We should mark this day. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Oh don't worry, this day has already been marked (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

[Darunia]

(IMG:http://images.gazzetta.it/Hermes%20Foto/2008/05/04/0K0D0U6G--346x212.jpg)

Picture of Flamini entering Kaladze's restaurant. Anyone ever been? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

MILANO, 4 maggio 2008 - "Ci siamo fatti un bel regalo". Carlo Ancelotti modera i toni; i trionfalismi non fanno parte del suo repertorio. Anzi, il tecnico rossonero parte dall'Inter battuta nel derby: "Ai nerazzurri basta una vittoria, penso che lo scudetto possano vincerlo domenica con il Siena. Loro e la Roma hanno le stesse difficoltà con Siena e Atalanta, squadre già tranquille. L'Inter può chiedere i conti".
FLAMINI SI' DINHO NO - E' felice; morde l'Europa che conta. Mentre Adriano Galliani, poco più in là, annuncia: "Flamini è nostro; arriva questa sera e firmerà per quattro anni". Mentre il patron rossonero, Silvio Berlusconi, gongola pensando a Pippo Inzaghi e Kakà e afferma che "su Ronaldinho è sempre stato dubbioso", aggiungendo un categorico: "adesso penso che non ne abbiamo bisogno". Il numero 1 di via Turati fa gli auguri all'Inter per la vittoria finale, perché "nonostante quello che si possa pensare, da milanese autentico e da figlio della segreteria del dottor Moratti, sono felice per lo scudetto dell'Inter".
PRESTAZIONE - Ancelotti incassa è torna al derby: "L'Inter ha usato nel primo tempo un atteggiamento prudente; ha contenuto il gioco con la marcatura fissa su Pirlo e questo ci ha dato libertà sulla costruzione e il controllo del gioco". E non può fare a mano di guardarsi indietro; si pensare alle occasioni perdute. "Credo soprattutto che abbiamo pagato l'assenza di giocatori importanti come Inzaghi, che è stato out tre mesi per la frattura al piede. Ronaldo poi non c'è mai stato, Pato per sei mesi neanche. E poi abbiamo potuto lavorare bene in queste settimane. Oggi siamo stati bravi ad aggirarli lateralmente".
TUTTO IN GIOCO - Galliani, sempre poco più in là, non lancia proclami. "La felicità è contenuta - sostiene l'a.d. rossonero che mette le mani avanti - perché non è finita. Ha ragione Prandelli, la Fiorentina ha fatto un grandissimo campionato. Non drammatizziamo comunque se si arriva quinti. Ora abbiamo un punto in più. Vediamo cosa succede nelle due prossime partite". E analizzando i due calendario aggiunge: "Le partite sono tutte difficili e da giocare". Poi su Flamini: "Arriverà in serata e firmerà per 4 anni".
FLAMINI A MILANO - E infatti, come aveva annunciato nel pomeriggio il vicepresidente vicario del Milan, Adriano Galliani, il futuro acquisto rossonero, Mathieu Flamini, è arrivato a Milano in serata e adesso si trova a cena assieme al suo procuratore nel ristorante di proprietà del suo prossimo compagno di squadra, Kaladze, nei pressi della stazione centrale. Il centrocampista francese è atterrato alle 20,45 allo scalo privato di Linate, a bordo di un aereo proveniente da Londra, dove nel pomeriggio era sugli spalti dell'Emirates Stadium per l'ultima partita casalinga della stagione dell'Arsenal. In jeans, giacca e camicia nera, Flamini è stato accolto da una decina tra giornalisti, fotografi e operatori che lo attendevano di fronte al ristorante, ma a tutte le domande ha risposto con un secco "later, later".

MILAN, 4 May 2008 - "we are done Ourselves a fine gift".  Carlo Ancelotti curbs the tones; the triumphalisms do not do part of its repertory.  Or rather, the technical rossonero leaves from the inter beaten in the match:  "To the nerazzurri you suffice a victory, I think that the badge possano to win the Sunday with the Siena.  They and the Rome have the same difficulty with Siena and Atalanta, squares already calm.  The inter is able ask the accounts".
FLAMINI HIMSELF' DINHO NO - AND' happy; bites the Europe that counts.  While Adriano Galliani, little further on, announces:  "Flamini is ours; arrives this evening and will sign for four years".  While the patron rossonero, Silvio Berlusconi, is pleased thinking about Pippo Inzaghi and Kakà and affirms that "on Ronaldinho always was doubtful", adding a categorical one:  "Now I think that we need not of it".  The number 1 of road Plugged does the omens to the inter for the final victory, because "although what thinks, from milanese authentic and from son of the secretary office of the dottor Moratti, I am happy for the badge of the inter". 
SERVICE - Ancelotti packs returned at the match:  "The inter used in the first time a cautious attitude; contained the game with the fixed marking on It and this has us given freedom on the construction and the control of the game".  And it cannot do to hand of to look at itself back; to be thought the occasions lost.  "I believe above all that we paid the important absence of gamblers like Inzaghi, that out was three months for the break to the foot.  Ronaldo then us did not ever be, I Suffer for you are months not even.  And then we were able to work well in these weeks.  Today we were capable to go around them sideways". 
ALL IN GAME - Galliani, always little further on, not spear proclamations.  "The happiness is contained - supports l' to. d. rossonero that puts the hands before - because is not ended.  It has reason Prandelli, the Florentine one did a large championship.  We do not dramatize however if it arrives fifth.  Now we have a point in more.  We see what it happens in two next left".  And analyzing the two calendar adds:  "The entries are all difficulties and to play".  Then on Flamini:  "It will arrive in evening and it will sign for 4 years". 
FLAMINI TO MILAN - AND in fact, how had announced in the afternoon the vice president vicar of the Milan, Adriano Galliani, the future purchase rossonero, Mathieu Flamini, arrived at Milan in evening and now it is found to supper together with its prosecutor in the restaurant of property of its next teammate, Kaladze, in the crowds of the central station.  The French midfielder is landed to 20.45 to the private port of Linate, on board of a coming airplane from London, where in the afternoon was on the steps of the emirates Stadium for the last divided housewife of the season of the arsenal.  In jeans, jacket and black shirt, Flamini was welcomed from a ten between journalists, you photograph and operating that awaited it facing the restaurant, but to all the questions answered with a dry one "later, later". 

- Tranlsated with freetranslation.com, article from Gazzetta.

This post has been edited by Darunia: May 4 2008, 09:58 PM

[Tennie]

Well, he's getting into the swing of things, dining at Giannino. I've not been there, but I've been past? It's up near the rail station (and not too terribly far from Via Turati).