[Fillipo Simone]

As defending champions this will be a tuff match, especially cause Benfica is a serious team. This will also be, I suppose, a match full of emotions, primary because of Rui Costa's return to San Siro. Also let's remember our first european title in 1963 against Benfica. My prediction would be the same result, that means 2-1 for us,... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[dst]

I think we'll start on a high... 2-0 for Milan!! Kaka and... Kaka!!

I can't wait to see Rui Costa at the San Siro again!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[misha]

Also let's remember our first european title in 1963 against Benfica.

And 4th in the 1990 (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Will be great to see Rui at San Siro. Benfica is even weaker than last year, and I don't think it will be too hard of a task to beat them. 2:0.

This post has been edited by mishale: Sep 15 2007, 04:13 PM

[han2503]

Let's hope we start our defence of the cup with big ears on a high.

Benfica, as mishale said have gotten weaker from last year since they basically sold their best players.

The only fixtures I am worried about in the group stage are the ties against Celtic, they gave us a real hard time last season. So we need to take all the points from Benfica and Shakthar. Bu hopefully we'll start well and win the group before the last match day

[Fillipo Simone]

Let's hope we start our defence of the cup with big ears on a high.

Benfica, as mishale said have gotten weaker from last year since they basically sold their best players.

The only fixtures I am worried about in the group stage are the ties against Celtic, they gave us a real hard time last season. So we need to take all the points from Benfica and Shakthar. Bu hopefully we'll start well and win the group before the last match day

Shakhtar isn't a joke also, but, we are 100% favorietes,.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[han2503]

Shakhtar isn't a joke also, but, we are 100% favorietes,.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Ok Shakthar away will be tough but if we play well we will win

[Rossoneri7]

I don't see any reason for us to worry ... We'll top the group IMO (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

And Benfica are a tricky side, but at the San Siro it's a whole different ball game (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

[Portman]

(IMG:http://www.slbenfica.pt/Imagens/19999.jpg)

Today Benfica won 3-0 at home vs. Naval. Confortable win. It was 3 but it could be 4 or 5 easily.

» Rui Costa, Rodriguez and Nuno Gomes scored. Petit injuried and Cardozo (their #1 striker) was rested.

We'll see who's available for the San Siro trip, although Petit would be a BIG miss (he's like their Gattuso).

They've also the CB problem: Luisao + David Luiz + Zoro are out so they had to play the last matches with Katsouranis in that place.

[Fillipo Simone]

I hope we'll get a glimpse at Freddy Adu...Also, I'm very interested in Maximiliano Pereira, he had some good Copa America minutes I think.

In all, I'm excited to see Benfica play. I really do expect from them to be 2nd, infront of Celtic.

[Portman]

I hope we'll get a glimpse at Freddy Adu...Also, I'm very interested in Maximiliano Pereira, he had some good Copa America minutes I think.

In all, I'm excited to see Benfica play. I really do expect from them to be 2nd, infront of Celtic.

Adu? I don't think he's ready to face a top European match right now. The new Benfica coach Camacho will give him time to settle. At least I doubt.

Max Pereira? He seemed an average player to me. In the other hand Rodriguez impressed me.

Hum... it will be difficult for Benfica. They've a lot of injuries, and personally I think they had a better squad 2 years ago and specially last year.

But this new-Benfica need time too.

[Fillipo Simone]

Adu? I don't think he's ready to face a top European match right now. The new Benfica coach Camacho will give him time to settle. At least I doubt.

Max Pereira? He seemed an average player to me. In the other hand Rodriguez impressed me.

Hum... it will be difficult for Benfica. They've a lot of injuries, and personally I think they had a better squad 2 years ago and specially last year.

But this new-Benfica need time too.

Simao + Anderson (big players who left) < Camacho+Rodriguez+Cardozo+Butt

But that's only theoretically,...In fact Simaos departure is the biggest problem, and also this team needs time to blend.

[KillerMax]

I think we will definitely get the 3 points. We always do better in the CL. Hopefully we won't win with a big margin so the team won't get cocky and the management don't start with their usual "we don't need anyone" talk.

This post has been edited by pKillerMax: Sep 16 2007, 06:40 AM

[arivanjj]

ahhh good ol' CL... i'll be watching it on TV (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Rui Costa eager for Milan reunion


Manuel Rui Costa has rediscovered his form at Benfica and is looking forward to Tuesday’s reunion with old club Milan.

“At San Siro I will find myself facing the team with which I became European champion and where many of my friends still work (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) ,” he told the official Benfica website.

“This is why it will be a very special occasion for me. But I will give my all for Benfica.”

The Portuguese veteran is still Milan’s biggest ever signing at £27m from Fiorentina in 2001, but was criticised for his performances despite helping them to the Champions League trophy, European Super Cup and Coppa Italia.

Benfica open their Champions League campaign at San Siro on Tuesday evening and are confident going into the match.

Rui Costa was one of the scorers in their 3-0 win over Naval this weekend along with Cristian Rodriguez and former Fiorentina striker Nuno Gomes.

Milan’s other Group D opponents were also victorious in their domestic fixtures, as Shakhtar Donetsk won 2-1 away to Chernomorets Odessa with Cristiano Lucarelli converting a penalty.

Celtic comfortably hammered Inverness Caledonian Thistle 5-0 thanks to a Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink brace, Phil McGuire own goal and strikes from ex-Milan man Massimo Donati and former Reggina star Shunsuke Nakamura.

Football Italia

[kurtsimonw]

I predict a great performance, and a nice scoreline. 3-0 Milan. Kaka' (2) and Pippo.

If we win all of our home games, I think we'll win the group, because I don't see us losing many away games, maybe draws.

[han2503]

Can't wait to see Rui at the San Siro again (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

@kurt, agreed that if we maintain a 100% record at home then we will win the group. I'm expecting us to beat at least Shakthar away and maybe draw or lose to Celtic away and draw against Benfica, this would be enough for us to win it

This post has been edited by han2503: Sep 16 2007, 05:31 PM

[Tennie]

Mike Riley from England will referee this match.

Opinions on him from those who watch the English league?

[jefri91]

First game of champions league so its either going to be a 1-0 or 0-1

[jefri91]

Rui is playing really good at Benfica, if seen him score lots of goals lately. If Benfica score its going to be him who does it.

[Ry4n]

we all know who is gunna score INZAGHI !! he was the last person to score for us in the champions league and this year the first in champions league

[kurtsimonw]

Mike Riley from England will referee this match.

Opinions on him from those who watch the English league?

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Get ready for crap decisions, he's one of the worst, and that's saying something.

He's the idiot that refereed Pompey-Liverpool this wekeend and gave Portsmouth a penalty for nothing at all.

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Sep 16 2007, 11:12 PM

[Fillipo Simone]

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Get ready for crap decisions, he's one of the worst, and that's saying something.

He's the idiot that refereed Pompey-Liverpool this wekeend and gave Portsmouth a penalty for nothing at all.

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

How to forget such an idiot?? He's the one who refereed the match Petr Cech got his injurie. It was Chelsea-Reading, if I'm not entirely wrong. Oh, he's brilliant, really,.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Portman]

GK - Quim e Butt;
DF - Luís Filipe, Edcarlos, Léo, Miguel Vítor e Nélson;
MF - Gilles, Katsouranis, Fábio Coentrão, Maxi Pereira, Di María, Cristian Rodriguez, Romeu Ribeiro, Nuno Assis e Rui Costa;
FW - Cardozo, Bergessio e Nuno Gomes.

Benfica squad for Tuesday.

[Tennie]

Yikes. The Benfica defense is...awfully thin. And no Petit either.

Sad to see as I rather like Benfica.

[Rossoneri7]

Yikes. The Benfica defense is...awfully thin. And no Petit either.

Sad to see as I rather like Benfica.

They don't stand a chance at the San Siro, though I'd love to see Rui score one of his long range shots, from the corner of the 18 yard box (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) (just one (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )

[Tennie]

This is hearsay, but I thought I'd pass it along.

I've just chatted with some friends (in Portugal) who are Benfica fans. They're a little nervous about the game and the following things emerged:
1. The fact that Milan rested Kaka and Pirlo (and are 'taking Benfica seriously') scares them.
2. Benfica rested Cardozo but Rui Costa played yesterday and scored that great goal. Petit could've been taken off to be rested - he's their best DM - but he wasn't and got hurt late in the game. They're not happy about that.
3. They're worried about the state of Benfica's defense and aren't sure who'll start as the CBs. They're not too confident in the new defenders. They think Katsouranis might deputise as a CB- or he might slot in the DM spot in Petit's place.

[misha]

They have a good reason to be worried. We are gonna play with our strongest line up (except Paolo) ,and with all thier problems, a darw will be a great achievement for them.

[Rossoneri7]

Another important exception will be given to Milan after winning the last tournament: the Rossoneri will have the privilege of taking to the pitch with Adidas Athens Final, the ball that was used during the 23 May final against Liverpool.

This is from the official site ... It says that Milan will play with the Adidas ball of the Athena final (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

And I believe in omens (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[bigmacmtl]

i think we're gonna spank them 3-0. we all know how decicated our team is serie a (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) so i'm expecting everyone to give 100% to kick start the campaign well

[Bluesummers]

Dida-oddo-nesta-kaladze-janku-gattuso-pirlo-ambro-kaka-seedorf-inzaghi(gila) not sure what carlo might do with the forewards.

Predictions. 3-1.

[misha]

Dida-oddo-nesta-kaladze-janku-gattuso-pirlo-ambro-kaka-seedorf-inzaghi(gila) not sure what carlo might do with the forwards.

100% Pippo

[KillerMax]

100% Pippo

Nope, that's 2118341785481564868164986125862801568016%.

A blind, intoxicated, crippled and retarded Pippo will still be picked ahead of Gila in European games.

[misha]

Nope, that's 2118341785481564868164986125862801568016%.

A blind, intoxicated, crippled and retarded Pippo will still be picked ahead of Gila in European games.

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) True (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Zed.D]

CL means something special to this side and whether we like it or not, it's still our first priority. hopefully we'll have a good start.


Milan 1-0 Benfica
GOAL: Pirlo/Kaka

[arivanjj]

Benfica Will Miss Petit For Milan Clash

Benfica midfielder Petit will be out of action for six weeks, missing the opening two matches of his team's Champions League group stage campaign - including the impending midweek match with AC Milan at the San Siro...

Benfica and Portugal midfielder Petit is out with a knee ligament injury, meaning that he will be unable to face AC Milan at the San Siro on Tuesday night.

It's a bitter blow for the Portuguese side, who saw Petit pull up with injury against Naval, and means that he will miss at least two Champions League matches.

As well as the Milan clash, he'll miss the visit from Ukrainian runners-up Shakhtar Donetsk, although he may recover to face Celtic in Glasgow in the following game.

Petit has been with Benfica since arriving from Boavista in 2002. A boyhood fan of the club, he started his career with Gil Vicente in 1999.

He has 50 caps for Portugal, having scored four goals in the process.

[Tennie]

Uhoh.


From Carletto's press conference today:

Riguardo alla condizione dei giocatori l'unico problema è legato alla condizione di Pirlo. Ieri non si è allenato e non so se potrà recuperare per domani dopo la botta al polpaccio che ha preso con la Nazionale. Gli altri stanno tutti bene. Se non dovesse giocare Pirlo ho comunque altre soluzioni come Emerson e Brocchi.

[Regarding the condition of our players the only problem is Pirlo's condition. Yesterday he didn't train and I don't know if he'll recover by tomorrow from the calf injury he picked up while playing for the national team. Everyone else is doing well. If Pirlo can't play, there are other solutions like Emerson and Brocchi.]

(NOOOOOOOO! If Pirlo can't play, put in Gourcuff!)


link

[Warchant]

Benfica Will Miss Petit For Milan Clash 

Benfica midfielder Petit will be out of action for six weeks, missing the opening two matches of his team's Champions League group stage campaign - including the impending midweek match with AC Milan at the San Siro...

Benfica and Portugal midfielder Petit is out with a knee ligament injury, meaning that he will be unable to face AC Milan at the San Siro on Tuesday night.

It's a bitter blow for the Portuguese side, who saw Petit pull up with injury against Naval, and means that he will miss at least two Champions League matches.

As well as the Milan clash, he'll miss the visit from Ukrainian runners-up Shakhtar Donetsk, although he may recover to face Celtic in Glasgow in the following game.

Petit has been with Benfica since arriving from Boavista in 2002. A boyhood fan of the club, he started his career with Gil Vicente in 1999.

He has 50 caps for Portugal, having scored four goals in the process.

I would bet that Adu will start in his place...something that should not be looked over

[Tennie]

Except that Freddy wasn't called up.

(See previous page for list of Benfica call-ups).

[Tennie]

(From the club website)

MILAN-BENFICA: I CONVOCATI
17/09/2007
MILANELLO - Questa la lista dei 20 convocati da Carlo Ancelotti per la sfida di Champions League di domani sera contro il Benfica:
PORTIERI: Dida, Kalac;
DIFENSORI: Bonera, Cafu, Favalli, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Nesta, Oddo, Simic;
CENTROCAMPISTI: Ambrosini, Brocchi, Gattuso, Emerson, Gourcuff, Kakà, Pirlo, Seedorf;
ATTACCANTI: Gilardino, Inzaghi.

[whoarethepatriot...]

Adu is an AM anyway right? while Petit is a DM

Portugal, am i right?

[Fillipo Simone]

Adu is an AM anyway right? while Petit is a DM

Portugal, am i right?

As far as I know he can play as a forward as well,...

[Zed.D]

Nope, that's 2118341785481564868164986125862801568016%.

A blind, intoxicated, crippled and retarded Pippo will still be picked ahead of Gila in European games.

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

That's right... but what if Pippo pick up an injury?! that's not very uncommon tbh...

Baldy's face would be lovely to see in that case. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Tennie]

Hey, Pippo scored against Bayern (away leg) last year with...one working leg. He wasn't even close to match fit for that game.

Forza Pippo!

[Fillipo Simone]

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

That's right... but what if Pippo pick up an injury?! that's not very uncommon tbh...

Baldy's face would be lovely to see in that case.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This question is not only related to the Milan - Benfica clash, it is a question you can ask all the season long. I hope this thing won't be my Ceterum censeo for this season,... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Oh, Kojak has a poker-face, he'll slap us once more with that filled in all positions talk..
(IMG:http://www.contrasto.it/img/ARR01006_0076501_img.jpg)

This post has been edited by Fillipo Simone: Sep 17 2007, 09:08 PM

[Zed.D]

Hey, Pippo scored against Bayern (away leg) last year with...one working leg. He wasn't even close to match fit for that game.

Forza Pippo!

Then what if he breaks a leg!? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ...

I meant a serious injury which completely rules him out for weeks or even months... our attack lacks both quality and quantity right now. we cannot afford to play in the CL with only one striker, who is not Maradona, Batistuta or Ronaldo, but mighty GILARDINO! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[han2503]

Adu is an AM anyway right? while Petit is a DM

Portugal, am i right?

Yep

[Fillipo Simone]

Now, honestly, when will Ronaldo be back? Does anyone have a clue?

[Zed.D]

This question is not only related to the Milan - Benfica clash, it is a question you can ask all the season long. I hope this thing won't be my Ceterum censeo for this season,... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I know... but right now Milan-Benfica matters a lot. it's one of our three home games and taking three points is a must. because we easily lose points in away matches.


What does that "Ceterum censeo" mean?! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) in English please!

[Fillipo Simone]

What does that "Ceterum censeo" mean?!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) in English please!

It means "Moreover, I recommend (or it is my opinion)"; it is the belief that Cato began all his speeches in the roman senate with that phrase (in original - Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam) to emphasize the importance of this matter (in Cato's case it was the Carthagian danger to Rome)...

...now I bored you with history,.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[dst]

Sh!t, this is less than 24 hours away, I had not realized that! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) The greatest competition in the continent (besides Eurovision! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) starts again!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by dst: Sep 17 2007, 11:10 PM

[misha]

Sh!t, this is less than 24 hours away, I had not realized that!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) The greatest competition in the continent (besides Eurovision!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)   ) starts again!!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

It's about f@cking time (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Can't wait!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[Zed.D]

It means "Moreover, I recommend (or it is my opinion)"; it is the belief that Cato began all his speeches in the roman senate with that phrase (in original - Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam) to emphasize the importance of this matter (in Cato's case it was the Carthagian danger to Rome)...

...now I bored you with history,.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Not at all, I like history (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) but never heard about Cato and his opening phrases before. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Zed.D]

Sh!t, this is less than 24 hours away, I had not realized that!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) The greatest competition in the continent (besides Eurovision!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)   ) starts again!!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

It's about f@cking time (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)   Can't wait!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

I see excitement all over the place! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

I hope it doesn't turn into disappointment after our first match! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

I see excitement all over the place!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

I hope it doesn't turn into disappointment after our first match!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Hmh, when did the CL dissapoint us last time?

[misha]

Hmh, when did the CL dissapoint us last time?

Marcus Merk (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

[bigmacmtl]

Adu is an AM anyway right? while Petit is a DM

Portugal, am i right?

kastouranis plays DM but i belive he has a more attacking role with benfica so i guess he'll replace petit's role and which open up a spot for adu in the midfield.

[Tennie]

kastouranis plays DM but i belive he has a more attacking role with benfica so i guess he'll replace petit's role and which open up a spot for adu in the midfield.

Er. If you look to the call ups that Porty posted on page two, you'll see that Adu was not called up.(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I agree that Katsouranis is most likely going to slot into the DM place.

[dst]

Marcus Merk (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

It was blatantly obvious inequity but I'm over it already cause I know we wouldn't have a chance if the game had been taken to extra time. Not with "Old No. 5" and Kala at the back!

[misha]

It was blatantly obvious inequity but I'm over it already cause I know we wouldn't have a chance if the game had been taken to extra time. Not with "Old No. 5" and Kala at the back!

You never know. Barca would have gotten forward more after that goal and that would give us more spaces to attack and maybe to surprise them. But because of that SOB we lost that opportunity.

[Tennie]

Programming Note:

For those in North America, ESPN Deportes will be showing the match on tape delay starting at 4:45pm EST.

[arivanjj]

Rino trusts in Milan mentality

Milan midfield dynamo Gennaro Gattuso believes that Milan’s secret weapon for success in Europe lies in the spirit in the dressing room.

The Rossoneri start their defence of the European throne against Benfica at the San Siro on Tuesday evening.

After having to settle for a point against Siena last weekend there is a feeling in the peninsula that the Diavolo may struggle against the Portuguese giants, but Gattuso tells a different story.

“The key lies in the dressing room and that’s no big secret,” he told Spanish newspaper El Pais.

“When you see someone like Paolo Maldini who at 39-years-old can play in a Champions League Final and give blood, sweat and tears to the caiuse you’d be an idiot not to see how he is an inspiration. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

“Then there’s Clarence Seedorf who has won four Champions League titles with three different sides, but I saw him cry with the emotion of winning last year’s semi-final against Manchester United. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

“We are the kind of club that finds motivation in the hardest times and has winning in our DNA, Silvio Berlusconi has seen to that.” (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

As for his own role, the ex-Rangers man was typically modest as he described the pugnacious spirit that has defined his career.

“At times I look at my feet and curse them as they never gave me any joy,” he chuckled. “I’m always telling Carlo Ancelotti to imagine what I’d be like if I had silky skills – we wouldn’t have space for the trophies! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

“There are players like Kaka who are born as stars and then men like me who have to build a career from endless passion.” (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

Andrea Pirlo is set to overcome injury problems to feature against Benfica, but Ronaldo’s absence limits the attacking options to just Alberto Gilardino and Pippo Inzaghi. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Milan squad: Dida, Kalac; Bonera, Cafu, Favalli, Jankulovski, Kaladze, Nesta, Oddo, Simic; Ambrosini, Brocchi, Gattuso, Emerson, Gourcuff, Kaka, Pirlo, Seedorf; Gilardino, Inzaghi


Channel4

[Jack Sparrow]

Damn...that was a good read!! Thanks ari! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[han2503]

Sh!t, this is less than 24 hours away, I had not realized that!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) The greatest competition in the continent (besides Eurovision! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)   ) starts again!!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

You've got that right (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Tennie]

Hey, don't diss Eurovision! It's good entertainment! (I liked the Orcs from...Norway was it?...of a couple of years ago).

Anyway, this morning's Gazzetta reports that Pirlo has recovered from the slight injury to his calf and will start.

[La rifinitura di stamattina conferma il recupero del centrocampista dopo una botta rimediata in Nazionale.]

They also say it'll be the same lineup that took to the pitch against Sevilla.

[Stasera contro i portoghesi, giocherà quindi la stessa formazione che ha vinto la Supercoppa Europea contro il Siviglia]

So....Dida; Oddo Nesta Kaladze Jankulovski; Gattuso Pirlo Ambrosini; Kaka Seedorf; Pippo.

link

[Rossoneri7]

A bit of history http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwsfwSGp_F4

[dst]

Our (only) best players will play! The winning XI of 2007!! I don't wanna take a look at the bench though...

Forza Milan!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

This post has been edited by dst: Sep 18 2007, 01:14 PM

[arivanjj]

Our (only) best players will play! The winning XI of 2007!! I don't wanna take a look at the bench though...

Forza Milan!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

that includes Kaladze? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[dst]

that includes Kaladze? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Oops!! Sh!t... Maldini is always on my mind and constantly connected with our European victories that I though was gonna play tonight! Idiot!

Kaladze is good enough... when he hits the ball! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

7 hrs till kick off ... The journey to Moscow is about to start (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

[arivanjj]

Oops!! Sh!t... Maldini is always on my mind and constantly connected with our European victories that I though was gonna play tonight! Idiot!

Kaladze is good enough... when he hits the ball! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[han2503]

Anybody know if there will be any live streams for this one?

[misha]

Anybody know if there will be any live streams for this one?

Try: http://www.myp2p.eu/Matches/Match4.htm or http://www.livefooty.doctor-serv.com/

[misha]

Carletto issues Final demand

Milan boss Carlo Ancelotti has set his sights on reaching the Champions League Final as the Rossoneri’s European defence kicks off tonight.

The Diavolo take on Benfica at the San Siro looking to put last weekend’s 1-1 draw with Siena behind them and pick up where they left off in Athens last May.

It seems that Anceotti is likely to field the same 11 that triumphed in the European Super Cup against Sevilla with the biggest doubt over midfield star Andrea Pirlo.

“Pirlo hasn’t been training because of a calf problem,” Ancelotti admitted. “If he doesn’t make it, Emerson or Cristian Brocchi will take his place.

“Everyone else is fully fit and there are no problems with Kaka’s knee. As I have said in the past, the attack doesn’t depend on the names or the number of strikers, but rather we rely on going forward at pace.

“The Champions League is one of our most important ojectives alongside the Club World Championship. There’s a unique feel to the tournament.”

Ancelotti must first negotiate Scottish giants Celtic - who took Milan to extra-time in last year’s last 16 – and Cristiano Lucarelli’s Shakhtar Donetsk as well as Benfica, but he won’t accept anything less than a place in Moscow’s Final.

“It’s difficult to repeat your success in this tournament, but we want to get to the Final. We haven’t started well in Serie A, but we haven’t been able to get going yet.”

One familiar face in the opposition ranks is Manuel Rui Costa, who left the San Siro last summer to finish his career in Lisbon.

“Benfica are a side with a great tradition and an attacking style.

"Rui Costa deserves a mention alone as he was a great servant at Milan and the fact that he is playing at this level at his age is testimony to his professionalism.”

AC Milan - SL Benfica: A Historical Look


With tonight’s Champions League fixture pitting current champions AC Milan against SL Benfica, Goal.com rewinds seventeen to give readers a chance to revisit the last two times these two European greats vied for European Cup silverware…

There are a glittering total of nine pieces of prime European silverware shared between AC Milan and SL Benfica (two of which were decided in the head-to-head Finals we revisit here): the two European greats who will meet in the group stage of the Champions League 2007-8 for the first time at the San Siro stadium in Milan. 

The last time they met in Champions League action – and, in fact the only time; the other two clashes being under the European Cup format – was back in 1995 in the quarter final stage with a 2-0 win for the Rossoneri in Milan and a 0-0 stalemate at Lisbon’s da Luz, although AC Milan went down against Ajax in the eventual Final.

There’ll therefore be a slight frisson of déjà vu at San Siro as the current holders meet SL Benfica head on, although instead of the final game being played by the reigning champions it’ll be a curtain-raiser to yet another Rossoneri defence of the most prestigious piece of club silverware in the world. 

Back in 1990 the win over Benfica brought the fourth trophy back to Milan; on Tuesday the Rossoneri will start aiming for their eighth.  Although AC Milan are ranked first and SL Benfica are only seventeenth on the list in 2008, back in 1990 the roles were reversed with – surprisingly enough – AC Milan ranked twenty-third and SL Benfica ranked fourth according to the UEFA stats of the day.

1963 Wembley: AC Milan 2-1 SL Benfica

The old pre-World Cup Wembley Stadium was the scene for the first showdown between the Italians and the Portuguese and – at that time – there was one clear favourite: SL Benfica.  The stats reflected the yawning chasm between the two sides clearly: Benfica rated third and AC Milan way down in twenty-ninth place.

The Águias (Eagles) were two-time winners of the European Cup having done a Spanish double-tap by downing Barcelona and Real Madrid in 1961 and 1962. Eusébio was the established star striker but underdogs AC Milan had Gianni Rivera, and in London he proved to be decisive under the command of a Rossoneri legend: Cesare Maldini.

Paolo’s father blazed the trail which his son has followed so successfully, creating a wall in conjunction with Giovanni Trapattoni that held the brunt of the Benfica blows that were expected to rip the Italians to shreds.  Aided and abetted by Mario David they parried most thrusts, but still they couldn’t hold the Black Panther and Eusébio (19 min) put Benfica ahead.

It was time for the Golden Boy to shine as Rivera set Italo-Brazilian striker Altafini (58 min) up for the equaliser, then did it again and Altafini (68 min) beat Pereira on his second attempt to net his fourteenth goal – a European Cup record then and the start of a long legacy of warm Brazilian links with AC Milan – and send the jug-eared trophy back to Italy for the very first time in history.

AC MILAN (2): Giorgio Ghezzi, Mario David, Cesare Maldini, Benitez, Mario Trebbi, Dino Sani, Trapattoni, Gino Pivatelli, José Altafini, Gianni Rivera, Bruno Mora

Coach: Nereo Rocco 

SL BENFICA (1): Costa Pereira, Domiciano Cávem, Raúl Machado, Fernando Cruz, Humberto Fernandes, Mário Coluna, José Augusto, Joaquim Santana, José Torres, Eusébio, António Simões

Coach: Fernando Riera


1990 Vienna: AC Milan 2-1 SL Benfica

The most recent decisive European date was May the 23rd, 1990 and the venue was the Ernst Happel Stadium, then known as the Praterstadion, Austria’s largest football stadium and no stranger to Italian and Portuguese teams.  In fact all four of the European Cup Finals to have been hosted at the Happel have had Italian or Portuguese Finalists – or both.

Back in 1964 AC Milan’s Nerazzurri nemesis Inter Milan beat Real Madrid 3-1 in Vienna a year after AC Milan won their first European Cup against the odds at Wembley, then over two decades later the 1987 European Cup final witnessed FC Porto down Bayern München 2-1; the Dragões claiming their first Cup in Austria.

Three years after that the 1990 European Cup final was won by AC Milan with a slim 1-0 victory over Benfica, although the Rossoneri experienced the flip five years later as Van Gaal’s Ajax beat AC Milan by the same margin – ironically enough after the aforementioned quarter-final clash between the Italians and Portuguese.

1990 can be considered a vintage year for Italian football. The World Cup was hosted – although West Germany won, the Azzurri did manage a reasonable third place – and European club competition was dominated by Italian clubs.  The UEFA Cup was hoisted by Juventus, the Cup Winners' Cup headed by Sampdoria, while AC Milan kept the European Cup they had won in 1989 with a 4-0 trouncing of Red Star Bucharest.

AC Milan has experienced a rocky ride to the Final with two nail-biting classifications being won in extra time and with away goals giving a helping hand and Ruud Gullit had only just come back from a long injury lay-off, and started off the Final with a far different approach than the year before when they had laid waste to Red Star Bucharest.

With their double Dutch strike force – Marco van Basten and Gullit – failing to break through it was left to a supporting actor to break through with a ripping run upfield that slit Benfica in half. Costacurta slapped the ball up to Van Basten, who provided a masterful touch that put the racing Rijkaard (68 min) through to beat Silvino Louro with his right outstep.

AC MILAN (1): G. Galii, Tassotti, Baresi, Costacurta, Paolo Maldini, Colombo (F.Galii), Franklin Rijkaard, Evani, Carlo Ancelotti (Massaro), Ruud Gullit, Marco Van Basten

Coach: Arrigo Sacchi

SL BENFICA (0): Silvino Louro, José Carlos, Ricardo Gomes, Aldair, Samuel Quina, Vitor Paneira (Vata Garcia), Hernâni Neves, Jonas Thern, Jaime Pacheco (Cesar Brito), Valdo, Mats Magnusson

Coach: Sven-Göran Eriksson

(IMG:http://www.goal.com/images/17564.jpg)

Berlusconi: I Want Real Or Barca In The Final

Milan President Silvio Berlusconi has revealed that he is looking forward to another successful Champions League campaign and hopes to meet Real Madrid or Barcelona in Moscow next May.

The Rossoneri begin the defence of their European crown tonight as Portuguese giants Benfica travel to San Siro. Milan’s other opponents in Group D are Scottish champions Celtic and Ukrainian outfit Shakhtar Donetsk. 

“I hope tonight will be the first step towards another final. Milan always aim to be victorious in every competition. A dream final would be against a great team like Barcelona or Real Madrid,” said Berlusconi. 

“It would even be great to face Inter. I offer my best wishes to Massimo Moratti that we may arrive with them in the final, as I know he has poured so much love and dedication into the club.”  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)  

Berlusconi also offered his support to under-fire striker Alberto Gilardino. So much was expected of Gila when he arrived for £18m in 2005, however the ex-Parma man has been largely disappointing and has scored just twice in two Champions League campaigns. 

“I have already called Gilardino to tell him that we are all behind him. He has been unlucky lately but he has great quality and is an important part of the future of Milan,” Berlusconi concluded.

This post has been edited by mishale: Sep 18 2007, 04:44 PM

[han2503]

Try: http://www.myp2p.eu/Matches/Match4.htm or http://www.livefooty.doctor-serv.com/

Thanks misha (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

[Guest_fresh_prince7_*]

So whats everyone predicting for this one?

I think we might come out and play some champagne football.

Milan 3-0 Benfica

Hopefully rui doesn't spoil the party.

FORZA BOYS! Lets get back on track.

[Jack Sparrow]

Darn it I'm nervous. Where' s the booze when you need it?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I'd love it for us to really dominate, play some good looking football. Somehow, our league performances usually pick up depending on how confidently we are doing in Europe.

2 things I'm worried about...

1. Pushing Pirlo before he's fully fit.
2. Gila in Europe. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Dida and Kala have made their blooper for the month...I hope, and will be solid this once.

C'mon Gila...for the love of Saint Ambroeus....come on!!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

[Guest_fresh_prince7_*]

I know what you mean mate, but for me this is the least nervous bit. When we get to the knock out stage thats when it begins.

Can't wait for this, especially since I get to rarely see any milan games live.

I think we'll get 3 points anyway jack, which is all that matters.

Bit over a hour to go.

[KillerMax]

A bit off-topic, but fresh_prince7's sig makes Pato look like a blowfish.

[Jack Sparrow]

A bit off-topic, but fresh_prince7's sig makes Pato look like a blowfish.

Just a bit, an infinitesimal bit. I mean a blowfish in a sig has a lot of connections with today's match. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[KillerMax]

Just a bit, an infinitesimal bit. I mean a blowfish in a sig has a lot of connections with today's match. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Just a while ago you were all nervous^, now you are laughing and having a good time. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[KillerMax]

When is the game starting by the way?

[bigmacmtl]

gila is going to score, i'm sure of it

[KillerMax]

gila is going to score, i'm sure of it

I don't think he is going to play. Maybe the last 10 minutes.

[misha]

When is the game starting by the way?

In one hour (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/freak.gif)

gila is going to score, i'm sure of it

Don't put any money on it (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by mishale: Sep 18 2007, 06:46 PM

[armiss]

MILAN-BENFICA: LE FORMAZIONI UFFICIALI
18/09/2007


MILAN: Dida; Oddo, Nesta, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Gattuso, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Kakà, Seedorf; Inzaghi.(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)


BENFICA: Quim; Luis Filipe, Edcarlos, Katsouranis, Leo; Rui Costa, Maxim Pereira, Cristian Rodriguez, Di Maria; Miguel Vitor, Cardozo

[KillerMax]

Milan lineup:

(IMG:http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/8686/milanlineupua3.jpg)



Benfica lineup:

(IMG:http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/6819/benficalineupxq2.jpg)

[armiss]

4-3-2-1

[Guest_fresh_prince7_*]

Geeez come back and people abusing my sig. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Getting close now, anyone do the uefa fantasy team, any tips for dominant players in this rd. I could use a ps3.

[mishie]

is it me or does the bench look really short of options?
Gila the only attacking player, 2 def midfielders 3 defenders and a goalkeeper! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

[bigmacmtl]

is it me or does the bench look really short of options?
Gila the only attacking player, 2 def midfielders 3 defenders and a goalkeeper! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

yep it does (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[han2503]

is it me or does the bench look really short of options?
Gila the only attacking player, 2 def midfielders 3 defenders and a goalkeeper! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

Unfortunately that's what happens when you only make 2 transfers in the summer and one of them can't even play until January (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

btw isn't Yoann on the bench? I haven't seen the call up list just the official line-up

[misha]

About to start.

FORZA MILAN!!

[kurtsimonw]

Ambro with a good chance arriving late in the box, miss-hit the volley.

[misha]

Oddo crossed well but Ambro failed to finish

[kurtsimonw]

PIRLO!!!! 1-0!!!!

[misha]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PIRLO 1:0

[han2503]

OHH Ambro close

[mishie]

gggggggggooooooooooooooollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

[han2503]

HAHA Damn my stream is behind I haven't gotten to the goal

[bigmacmtl]

prilo!!!!!