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Chelsea are ready to allow Andriy Shevchenko to rejoin Milan on loan in January, reports in England are suggesting.

The Ukrainian signed for the Stamford Bridge outfit in a £31m move this summer, but has not yet adjusted to his new reality.

He’s scored just three League goals this term and has been heavily criticised by the Press in recent weeks.

According to The Sun newspaper, Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho is prepared to send the striker back to the San Siro for personal reasons.

Not only is Shevchenko struggling to adjust to the change, but wife Kristin is also believed to be finding life tough in London with their two small children.

Milan would welcome Sheva back with open arms, especially given their attacking problems since he was sacrificed six months ago.

Should the former Dynamo Kiev man leave, Chelsea would ponder making a £21m move for Valencia man David Villa in January.

However, President Juan Soler has claimed that no firm bid has been made and any buyer would have to pay Villa’s £100m buy-out clause.

Shevchenko has been consistently associated with an imminent return to the Rossoneri, even if he has ruled out such a possibility on numerous occasions


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personally i think its BS. but given the current condition of our attack,, i wud love to see him bak (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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I don't give a damn one way or the other. In fact let him stay there. He has made his choice, let him be. It is BS anyway.
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This is simply nothing....
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post Nov 29 2006, 02:05 PM
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I hope he can come back to San Siro as a purchase
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Usual bull! and thank God that's the case... he'd better stay where he lies!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Not only is Shevchenko struggling to adjust to the change, but wife Kristin is also believed to be finding life tough in London with their two small children.


And when I though that London was 'the paradise'... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Anyway, just forget it. Shevchenko is a Chelsea player and will be on the next years.

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I would prefer Villa on Shevchenko anyday. I'm sorry Sheva, as much as I love(ed) you, you ruined your career the first moment you stepped out of the San Siro. Have a good life back there in London.
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QUOTE (dst @ Nov 29 2006, 01:06 PM)
Usual bull! and thank God that's the case... he'd better stay where he lies!!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Exactly, Milan ain't no hotel, that you can come and go as you please.

Plus why would we get Sheva when he wouldn't be of any use to us in the CL??
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post Nov 29 2006, 05:59 PM
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We have Oliveira and in HIM WE TRUST!
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 29 2006, 05:20 PM)
Exactly, Milan ain't no hotel, that you can come and go as you please.

Plus why would we get Sheva when he wouldn't be of any use to us in the CL??
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Nov 29 2006, 04:59 PM)
We have Oliveira and in HIM WE TRUST!
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Exactly, all this talk about wanting Sheva back can't be helping him in the confidence department
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post Nov 29 2006, 08:10 PM
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ya i really dont want him back, let alone on loan. i dont want any quick fixes so i would way rather invest our time in sumone who doesnt LIE and BETRAY. he had the chance to become a true milan legend like van basten, baresi, or maldini but now he is just another good player that has played and won trophies with us.
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He ain't coming at all... but well , you know nothing is impossible , at the beginning we thought that sheva would never leave, that his departure was impossible and it happened... so.. we never know.
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Nov 29 2006, 05:59 PM)
We have Oliveira and in HIM WE TRUST!
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Agreed. At the moment, I think Oliveira overclasses Sheva in any aspect. Just watch Sheva playing, he's slow, without ideas and I get the feeling he's just there to complicate things for Chelsea. Oliveira on the other hand, despite groaning from a long-time injury and having his sister kidnapped, is playing much more better than Andriy and that's why I think we don't need him. Not that he's coming back anyway...
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Nov 29 2006, 05:59 PM)
We have Oliveira and in HIM WE TRUST!
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If you say we, you mena like all of us? Because I don't trust him. Still I have hope for him, and I'd prefer him to Sheva loan any day!
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he won't come back, at least I hope not
and now, somebody still think that his move was not for money (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) , or maybe he has already learned too speak english???? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
and I think he has made his choice, so let him face the consequences (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) , and one more thing, think about the image this will bring to Milan if Scheva returns...
Ricky might think " it's OK if I go to Madrid, if things don't go right I can return to Milan"
PLZ don't let this happen with the giant (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) AC Milan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

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according to channel4 he can't comeback to us as we have used are quota of non-eu players with the purchase of oli anyway so the only way is for another club to loan/buy him and then loan him again to us!! very complicated and to behonest not really worth the bother (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
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Yeah... it's here:

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Wednesday 29 November, 2006 : channel4.com

Andriy Shevchenko cannot complete a loan comeback to Milan in January due to a legal loophole on non-EU players.

Newspapers in England are today insisting that the Chelsea star is so unhappy at Stamford Bridge that he is in negotiations for a shock return to San Siro mid-season.

However, the rules limiting the arrival of non-EU players from a foreign club would make this impossible, as the Rossoneri have already filled their quota with Ricardo Oliveira’s switch from Real Betis Sevilla.

If Shevchenko were to come back to Serie A, it would have to be in the summer, when another non-EU place opens up.

There is another alternative, one already used by Juventus when they brought in Adrian Mutu following his contract termination with Chelsea.

If another Serie A side with a free non-EU place signs the player, then turns him over to the larger club, this gets around the regulations.

Yet this would be very tricky to complete in a purely loan deal, so Chelsea would have to sell Shevchenko to another side in order to then send him forward to the Rossoneri.

The Ukrainian and former European Player of the Year moved to Chelsea for around £30m in the summer.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 29 2006, 09:48 PM)
Agreed. At the moment, I think Oliveira overclasses Sheva in any aspect. Just watch Sheva playing, he's slow, without ideas and I get the feeling he's just there to complicate things for Chelsea. Oliveira on the other hand, despite groaning from a long-time injury and having his sister kidnapped, is playing much more better than Andriy and that's why I think we don't need him. Not that he's coming back anyway...
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Goal scoring (league): Oli 1 Sheva 3. All Milan strikers 3 Sheva 3.
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QUOTE (mishale @ Nov 29 2006, 11:13 PM)
Goal scoring (league): Oli 1 Sheva 3. All Milan strikers 3 Sheva 3.
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Sheva's scored more goals, so? C'mon, just look at both men play and then tell me who's doing better at the moment. Oliveira is gaining his form back, in a couple of weeks you'll see the real Oliveira. What is Shevchenko doing at Chelsea? NOTHING. He's just a pedestrian on the field, nothing more.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 29 2006, 04:24 PM)
Sheva's scored more goals, so? C'mon, just look at both men play and then tell me who's doing better at the moment. Oliveira is gaining his form back, in a couple of weeks you'll see the real Oliveira. What is Shevchenko doing at Chelsea? NOTHING. He's just a pedestrian on the field, nothing more.
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and you sill think that oliveria will do all that sheva did ? don't be naive, i mean, olivera has scored two goals so far, i honestly don't belive oliveria will end his contract with milan, he will be sold at the end, or given on loan


Ps. i would rather to have sheva on the team once more, that having oliveria running through all the field trying to find out what to do with the ball.
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QUOTE (berenike_10 @ Nov 29 2006, 11:33 PM)
and you sill think that oliveria will do all that sheva did ? don't be naive, i mean, olivera has scored two goals so far, i honestly don't belive oliveria will end his contract with milan, he will be sold at the end, or given on loan
Ps. i would rather to have sheva on the team once more, that having oliveria running through all the field trying to find out what to do with the ball.
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I don't think Oliveira will be even half of what Sheva has been for us. And I agree, we'll probably sell him before his contract ends. But saying that the actual Shevchenko is doing better than the actual Oliveira is stupid. Just watch the two guys playing. As I said, Shevchenko doesn't look much more than a pedestrain on the field, I'm pretty sure without him Chelsea plays much better. He's just an inhibitor of Chelsea's fast game. On the other hand Oli is working hard and in a couple of weeks he'll gain his lost form back. As Max said, we must trust in him.

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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 29 2006, 04:44 PM)
I don't think Oliveira will be even half of what Sheva has been for us. And I agree, we'll probably sell him before his contract ends. But saying that the actual Shevchenko is doing better than the actual Oliveira is stupid. Just watch the two guys playing. As I said, Shevchenko doesn't look much more than a pedestrain on the field, I'm pretty sure without him Chelsea plays better. He's just an inhibitor of Chelsea's fast game. On the other hand Oli is working hard and in a couple of weeks he'll gain his lost form back. As Max said, we have him and we must trust in him.
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Yes, i understand your point, it was a pitty that sheva had to leave... i think that he'll never forgive himself for that choice.

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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 30 2006, 12:24 AM)
Sheva's scored more goals, so? C'mon, just look at both men play and then tell me who's doing better at the moment. Oliveira is gaining his form back, in a couple of weeks you'll see the real Oliveira. What is Shevchenko doing at Chelsea? NOTHING. He's just a pedestrian on the field, nothing more.
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You said any aspect of the game. Goal scoring is also an aspect. And for strikers it's quite important.
2/3 good games doesn't makes him so good as you make him. As for Sheva yes he is playing bad but he doesn't get enough balls either.
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QUOTE (mishale @ Nov 29 2006, 04:50 PM)
You said any aspect of the game. Goal scoring is also an aspect. And for strikers it's quite important.
2/3 good games doesn't makes him so good as you make him. As for Sheva yes he is playing bad but he doesn't get enough balls either.
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I have seen some games of chelsea recenlty...NOBODY, but nobody passes the ball to sheva, only ballack, then no one else.

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QUOTE (berenike_10 @ Nov 30 2006, 12:51 AM)
I have seen some games of chelsea recenlty...NOBODY, but nobody passes the ball to sheva, only ballack, then no one else.
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Yes. It was obvious in today game.
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QUOTE (mishale @ Nov 29 2006, 04:55 PM)
Yes. It was obvious in today game.
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Well, we can say milan lost the best damm striker in the world just for a woman's choice, and yet we saw that marvelous striker become in just another expendable player.
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QUOTE (berenike_10 @ Nov 30 2006, 12:58 AM)
Well, we can say milan lost the best damm striker in the world just for a woman's choice, and yet we saw that marvelous striker become in just another expendable player.
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I still believe he can be great again.
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QUOTE (mishale @ Nov 29 2006, 05:03 PM)
I still believe he can be great again.
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so do i.

the sar will return. im sure. and u'll see. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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QUOTE (berenike_10 @ Nov 30 2006, 01:05 AM)
so do i.

the sar will return. im sure. and u'll see.   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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as pissed as i was at him when he left

i would, honestly, welcome him with open arms

there are reports that sheva could only leave if chelsea find someone to take his place...at the same time they have been reported on trying to grab Valencia's David Villa.

i still think it's a small chance that this is actually true...but i honestly believe that seeing sheva in a milan jersey again (as well as score his first goal back) would put tears in my eyes.
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QUOTE (Warchant @ Nov 29 2006, 05:12 PM)
as pissed as i was at him when he left

i would, honestly, welcome him with open arms

there are reports that sheva could only leave if chelsea find someone to take his place...at the same time they have been reported on trying to grab Valencia's David Villa.

i still think it's a small chance that this is actually true...but i honestly believe that seeing sheva in a milan jersey again (as well as score his first goal back) would put tears in my eyes.
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QUOTE (mishale @ Nov 29 2006, 11:50 PM)
You said any aspect of the game. Goal scoring is also an aspect. And for strikers it's quite important.
2/3 good games doesn't makes him so good as you make him. As for Sheva yes he is playing bad but he doesn't get enough balls either.
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Yes, goals are important. But watch as Sheva's goals: however he's scored, the team either lost the match or had already assured the victory aka useless goals. While on the other hand Oliveira's 2 goals (Lazio and Brescia) have been both winning goals and without them we wouldn't have won the match.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 30 2006, 02:13 AM)
Yes, goals are important. But watch as Sheva's goals: however he's scored, the team either lost the match or had already assured the victory aka useless goals. While on the other hand Oliveira's 2 goals (Lazio and Brescia) have been both winning goals and without them we wouldn't have won the match.
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His first two goal was equalizers. He hasn't scored them in garbage time.
Oli scored a goal vs Lazio and hasn't scored since (over 800 min). A Coppa goal it's like scoring in carling cup. His last two games were decent. Nothing more.
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QUOTE (mishale @ Nov 30 2006, 01:28 AM)
His first two goal was equalizers. He hasn't scored them in garbage time.
Oli scored a goal vs Lazio and hasn't scored since (over 800 min). A Coppa goal it's like scoring in carling cup. His last two games were decent. Nothing more.
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Oh sh!t mate, I told you comparing them now is nonsense. Sheva has been trash! The fact you like him doesn't make his apparances better. Oliveira has been better than Shevchenko this season, so far. Who doesn't agree... well, good luck.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 30 2006, 02:45 AM)
Oh sh!t mate, I told you comparing them now is nonsense. Sheva has been trash! The fact you like him doesn't make his apparances better. Oliveira has been better than Shevchenko this season, so far. Who doesn't agree... well, good luck.
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This season they both has been playing bad with a couple decent games . That's it. I hasn't said that Sheva is playing better now. It's just you make Oli better than he actually is after 2 normal games.

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QUOTE (mishale @ Nov 30 2006, 02:25 AM)
This season they both has been playing bad with a couple decent games . That's it. I hasn't said that Sheva is playing better now. It's just you make Oli better than he actually is after 2 normal games.
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This season:
Sheva: 2 goals, a lot games playing like sh!t, 2 goals and couple decent games, injury and sh!t again
Oli: goal, long time playing like sh!t, couple decent games+goal.

How is Oli better this season? For me they both are underachieving.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

¿WHERE'S OUR MILAN PRIDE?

CHELSEA LURED SHEVA AND HIS WIFE ... THEY WERE CONVINCED ... AND SIMPLY LEFT.

NOW .... THAT HE'S NOT PLAYING WELL AND BECAUSE HIS WIFE DOESN'T LIKE THE LONDON "PARADISE" THEY'LL COME BACK ??????????????

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

I DON'T WANT CHESLEA TO FEEL LIKE THEY CAN GET RID OF WHAT THEY CONSIDER GARBAGE AND MILAN PICKS IT UP FOR THEM.

NOOOOOOOO WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

STICK SHEVA AND HIS WIFE UP YOUR NOSE AND LEAVE US ALONE.
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Nov 29 2006, 07:45 PM)
Oh sh!t mate, I told you comparing them now is nonsense. Sheva has been trash! The fact you like him doesn't make his apparances better. Oliveira has been better than Shevchenko this season, so far. Who doesn't agree... well, good luck.
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(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I think we are splitting hairs here.

So Sheva was great, and he's not playing now, which means at the worst it's gonna be a bad season.

Is Oli crap compared to Sheva?? Hell No! I still get people(who watch the Liga the way...uhm...dst watches Serie A? and THEY make excuses for Oli. They rate this guy better than Torres for heaven's sakes and that's saying a f_ing lot don't you think??!!)

So it's not like one guy is comprehensively better than the other...they are different...that's all.
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ONLY thing I can say is Oliviera is no Shevchenko, but Shevchenko could go f@ck himself.
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QUOTE (mishale @ Nov 29 2006, 10:55 PM)
Yes. It was obvious in today game.
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Yep the only good thing Sheva did was that long range shot which he created himself.Other then that I can count the number of times he touched the ballon one hand.

But I'm wih X-offender on this one. Sry mishale. When you compare who has been better for their current teams then Oli edges Sheva out. It's not just about the goals, just look at how Chelsea play when Sheva is off the pitch and when he is on it, the last 2 Chelsea games are great examples, he slows them down. Sheva is practically a pedestrian in every match he has played, except for a few when Chelsea where cruising. Oli hasn't even completed one full match with us and hasn't gotten even half the starts with us that Sheva has gottn with Chelsea. But when he comes on he definately makes an impact. And let's not forget the serious injury he suffered and the factthat he has personal problems to worry about. The only problem Sheva has to worry about is gettingto English lessons on time.

Sheva has scored 3 goals so far and has practically started in every math for Chelsea, Oli has 1 goal (plus hitting the post three time (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ) and Oli hasn't had as many minutes as Sheva. Plus Chelsea are in good form right now ie more service from midfield whereas our midfieldes have practically all been out of form except for Kaka, and we have no fullbacks. It's notjust Oli that's struggling it's all o our strikers.

And there is no excuse of one is adapting to a different environment since both are going through that.

btw for someone who hasmentioned the english learning thing, he is "somewhat" speaking coherent English, so I guess his goal is being achieved
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 30 2006, 10:19 AM)
ONLY thing I can say is Oliviera is no Shevchenko, but Shevchenko could go f@ck himself.


(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) That's the spirit man. Plus Oli is young and so can be quite good later. Who knows (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Is it even guaranteed that sheva would return and re-enact his former form?
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QUOTE (kdman @ Nov 30 2006, 01:23 PM)
(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)   That's the spirit man. Plus Oli is young and so can be quite good later. Who knows (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)   Is it even guaranteed that sheva would return and re-enact his former form?
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TBH I dont care anymore, he could regain his form from 2001/02 season; still I wouldnt want him back. I would much rather have us loose all season, get demoted, get kicked out of CL by the worst team, and have Kaka leave to Madrid than have him back here at Milan.
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 30 2006, 10:19 AM)
ONLY thing I can say is Oliviera is no Shevchenko, but Shevchenko could go f@ck himself.
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OK. I'll translate the Gazzetta article today:

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-Maldini and Gattuso are against his return
-Seedorf and Kaladze want his return
-Kaladze think we'll be welcomed without problems

http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Squadre/Mila...ogliatoio.shtml




I'm surprised too see almost the same things in Gazzetta and Corriere today. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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QUOTE (Portugal @ Nov 30 2006, 02:07 PM)
I'm surprised too see almost the same things in Gazzetta and Corriere today.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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It could be true .. But I'd stick with Maldini, I dont want him back in Milan
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I think maldini and Rino made themselves perfectly clear about how they felt about him.

Kaladze is a close friend of his, of course he wants him back, so is Seedorf
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2006, 11:11 AM)
I think maldini and Rino made themselves perfectly clear about how they felt about him.

Kaladze is a close friend of his, of course he wants him back, so is Seedorf
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What about the tifosi in general? The curva sud of San Siro? Want him back? (We should do a pool...)
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Nov 30 2006, 11:13 AM)
What about the tifosi in general? The curva sud of San Siro? Want him back? (We should do a pool...)
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In the end it really isn't up to them to decide these things.

Plus the Sheva loan is pretty much impossible, because of the non EU players issue
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2006, 02:23 PM)
In the end it really isn't up to them to decide these things.

Plus the Sheva loan is pretty much impossible, because of the non EU players issue
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Unless, Milan loans out Oli to Brazil to deal w/ his probs ..
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2006, 11:23 AM)
In the end it really isn't up to them to decide these things.

Plus the Sheva loan is pretty much impossible, because of the non EU players issue
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Dunno about that. Yesterday's was the new about "he can't return. non-EU passport". And today both Gazzetta and Corriere make his return as the frontpage? (They're not stupid...)

Probably the yesterday's new was b/s and he can return as a loan. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 30 2006, 11:26 AM)
Unless, Milan loans out Oli to Brazil to deal w/ his probs ..
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I Really hope that won’t happen. Oli needs to stay with Milan so he can integrate into the team as fast as possible, sending him to Brazil wouldn’t be the answer.

Sheva would only come for these six months, basically if he comes he would just be a quick fix for this season, where as if Oli stays and learns how to adapt to the team this season. He could be great for us next year, or even through the second half of this season.

Oli might not have shown it yet but he is a great player, some La Liga fans even said that he is better then Torres. It’s just that circumstances aren’t exactly on his side right now
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OFFICIAL STATEMENT:
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PRECISAZIONE DALLA SOCIETA'

30/11/2006

L'Amministratore Delegato del Milan Adriano Galliani precisa che "Al momento non esiste alcuna trattativa con il Chelsea per il ritorno di Andriy Shevchenko nella nostra società".

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Galliani said today "At this moment there's not any contact with Chelsea to bring Shevchenko back"

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QUOTE (Portugal @ Nov 30 2006, 11:28 AM)
Dunno about that. Yesterday's was the new about "he can't return. non-EU passport". And today both Gazzetta and Corriere make his return as the frontpage? (They're not stupid...)

Probably the yesterday's new was b/s and he can return as a loan. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Didn’t Sheva get an Italian passport a while back?? I don’t understand how this has become an issue. I thought he already had an Italian passport
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2006, 11:33 AM)
Didn’t Sheva get an Italian passport a while back?? I don’t understand how this has become an issue. I thought he already had an Italian passport
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Nov 30 2006, 11:32 AM)
OFFICIAL STATEMENT:
Galliani said today "At this moment there's not any contact with Chelsea to bring Shevchenko back"
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“At this moment…” I don’t like this
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2006, 02:30 PM)
I Really hope that won’t happen. Oli needs to stay with Milan so he can integrate into the team as fast as possible, sending him to Brazil wouldn’t be the answer.

Sheva would only come for these six months, basically if he comes he would just be a quick fix for this season, where as if Oli stays and learns how to adapt to the team this season. He could be great for us next year, or even through the second half of this season.

Oli might not have shown it yet but he is a great player, some La Liga fans even said that he is better then Torres. It’s just that circumstances aren’t exactly on his side right now
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Oli is a great player .. Sure he is no Sheva replacment, but over-all I agree w/ u, he hasnt shown what he could do as of yet ..

When I remarked that Oli could be loaned, it was just a hunch .. seeing that he has probs at home and Milan have problems on the field.

If it was up to me, I'd keep him on as much as possible till he breaks the ice and shows us his potential ..

That game against Lazio, I remember him to be very quick and clever .. I'm sure it's just a phase and he'll get back to his best form.

Sheva ? Do u actually want him back ?!
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 30 2006, 11:36 AM)
Oli is a great player .. Sure he is no Sheva replacment, but over-all I agree w/ u, he hasnt shown what he could do as of yet ..

When I remarked that Oli could be loaned, it was just a hunch .. seeing that he has probs at home and Milan have problems on the field.

If it was up to me, I'd keep him on as much as possible till he breaks the ice and shows us his potential ..

That game against Lazio, I remember him to be very quick and clever .. I'm sure it's just a phase and he'll get back to his best form.

Sheva ? Do u actually want him back ?!
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2006, 11:18 AM)
I really hope this whole Sheva thing is not true. It just makes Milan as a whole look bad as if we would take Chelsea’s seconds, and that we can’t cope without him.

If Sheva truly wants to come back then he should have thought about it before making his choice. End of. As far as I’m concerned his relationship with Milan ended the moment he expressed he was thinking of leaving
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And I totally agree about what you said regarding Oli, he might not right the a new chapter in our history books like Sheva did but none-the-less he's a great player and to judge him on what he has done these past few games wouldn't be right and it wouldn't be fair to him either.

As you said he showed us glimpses of what he can do against Lazio, once he finds his feet in Serie A and hopefully the thing with his sister get's resolved (for the best I hope) he will show us what he can do
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Amen to that .. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

Let's see what develops on this whole Sheva thing
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Milan have denied that they are in talks with Chelsea to bring Andriy Shevchenko back to the San Siro.

The Ukrainian has failed to adapt to life in the Premiership after his £30m move to Chelsea in the summer, fuelling speculation that he could return to the Serie A as early as January on loan.

“Adriano Galliani wishes to make it clear that there have been no negotiations with Chelsea to bring Shevchenko back to our club,” read an official note on the Rossoneri’s website.

The news suggesting Sheva’s return spread on Wednesday, although it seems that the rules limiting the arrival of non-EU players from a foreign club would make a January move impossible.

In the meantime, Shevchenko has reiterated his commitment to Chelsea and his desire to be a success in English football.

“I give 100 per cent all the time – I am committed and hungry for success with Chelsea,” said the player after the win at Bolton on Wednesday.

“I have total respect for the club and fans as well as for football in England and the culture of the country.

“There are always good and bad moments in sport, that’s normal. If that means there is criticism then I respect that,” concluded the former Dinamo Kiev star.


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So it's the end of it ... Glade to here it, now I dont want to hear a pip about S7 coming back .. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Nov 30 2006, 01:41 PM)
So it's the end of it ... Glade to here it, now I dont want to hear a pip about S7 coming back ..  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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No body actually DENIED it. I think we will just have to see how it plays out during January, although I really believe that the transfer can't be done.

First hte English papers started with it from when Abramovich took over Chelsea, and continued with the same pattern until he actually moved, now that they have him in London they want to start with it al over again (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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QUOTE (han2503 @ Nov 30 2006, 10:31 PM)
No body actually DENIED it. I think we will just have to see how it plays out during January, although I really believe that the transfer can't be done.

First hte English papers started with it from when Abramovich took over Chelsea, and continued with the same pattern until he actually moved, now that they have him in London they want to start with it al over again  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Nope it cant be done for several reasons, the most important is he kissed that beloved blue shirt on his first outing with Chelsea .. That itself is one factor I for one wont accept him back .. (quote me on this..) Even if he scores 20 goals for us again.
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I personally don't want him back either plus comebacks have always proved to be bad moves by us, Sacchi Cappello ring any bells?

Sheva's only hope is to try and revive what is left of his carreer at Chelsea coming back to Milan is not the answer.
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