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Sep 6 2006, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE Milan - AEK Athens
Group stage - Matchday 1 - 2006/2007
Wednesday 13th September 2006
Time: 20:45 (Italian time), 19:45 (UK time) Let's try to get off to a winning start, I predict a 2-0
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Sep 6 2006, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 6 2006, 04:52 PM) Let's try to get off to a winning start, I predict a 2-0 It will depend on the result of the game against Lazio but I think we'll win AEK in the end!!! 2-1 for me!!
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Sep 6 2006, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 6 2006, 09:25 PM) C'mon, I bet AEK is even weaker than Red Star. 3-0 my prediction. I never actually saw them play but they are probably better prepared since we would only have 3 competitave matches under our belts, I say 2-0 or maybe 2-1 because our defence is still very fragile with all of our central defenders who are starters are coming from injuries. And our attack is still not fine-tuned enough for them to start scoring freely.
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Sep 11 2006, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 11 2006, 06:06 PM) Yep! Apparently AEK have draw their first three matches in the greek championship. It would be a real shame if we take goals from them. no it's not that. I said so because virtually their midfield (all 4 players) can be stopped just by Rinho ...
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Sep 11 2006, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Sep 11 2006, 03:25 PM) no it's not that. I said so because virtually their midfield (all 4 players) can be stopped just by Rinho ... I know Rhino is fast and can run a lot, but...are they really THAT bad?
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Sep 11 2006, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE (LaPalma @ Sep 11 2006, 07:37 PM) I know Rhino is fast and can run a lot, but...are they really THAT bad? well not really ... I mean at some occasion they might even get past him!!!! well we shouldn't underestimate any team ... but I believe that if we play like we did against Lazio (that is .. not so good) we will be enjoying an easy - 3-0 win - CL -night!!!! (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
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Sep 11 2006, 09:32 PM
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Well I've been hearing that they have been creating a lot of chances but not being able to score any of them, that's why they keep getting draws.
I don't know though, this is just what I've been hearing about them from other boards.
I really hope this happens since our defence still is out of it, it's good that we don't have to face anyone with clinical finishers right now.
I would like to see someone from our attack score 5 on them in a row (I hope it could be Gila, but that is just asking way too much of him and I don't think that he will even play) and if this happens one of our players will piss all over ES's record which is something I want to see.
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Sep 11 2006, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 11 2006, 11:32 PM) Well I've been hearing that they have been creating a lot of chances but not being able to score any of them, that's why they keep getting draws. Right!! I like it ... people are informed ... AEK are indeed incapable of shooting on goal!!! BUT they created those chances against PAOK (a team the players of which are not getting payed and do not have a sponsor on their jersyes yet - all because of economical problems ), OFI ( a team that barely survived relegation and signed quite a few "unpromising" players and ... Akratitos ( in English it means 'unstoppable' but they have never and will never be such especially when a hundred people is the maximum you're ever going to see in their home matches ... ) Oh yes ... AEK played in the 3rd qual. round against Hearts as well ... against which they rarely created a chance and did not score before the Soctch were left with 10 and 9 men in the first and second tie respectively ... ... just show them what San Siro is made of!!!! (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)
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Sep 11 2006, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Sep 11 2006, 09:08 PM) Right!! I like it ... people are informed ... AEK are indeed incapable of shooting on goal!!! BUT they created those chances against PAOK (a team the players of which are not getting payed and do not have a sponsor on their jersyes yet - all because of economical problems ), OFI ( a team that barely survived relegation and signed quite a few "unpromising" players and ... Akratitos ( in English it means 'unstoppable' but they have never and will never be such especially when a hundred people is the maximum you're ever going to see in their home matches ... ) Oh yes ... AEK played in the 3rd qual. round against Hearts as well ... against which they rarely created a chance and did not score before the Soctch were left with 10 and 9 men in the first and second tie respectively ... ... just show them what San Siro is made of!!!! (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) Ok this is great, maybe the five goals for one player is not much of a stretch. I think Pippo can surely do it if they are as bad as you say. Btw what the hell kind of mess is your domestic league in?? I might have said that in my country football is really bad, but at least the players get paid. In all of the clubs!!! btw like how you said that "unpromising" (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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Sep 11 2006, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 12 2006, 01:13 AM) Wow that bad?? I would have though that Greece would be more organised then that. actually Greeks are really organised when it comes to rake-offs, boodles, bribes ... I guess this happens everywhere but obviously people outta here can latch on to the fact that the highest the level, the more money they can make out of things!!! (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Sep 11 2006, 11:57 PM
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I'm sure Pippo will score again, in the CL he's the best. Even better than Henry and maybe even beter than Chelskis new striker...
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Sep 12 2006, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE (Portugal @ Sep 12 2006, 04:08 AM) Oli out of form played better in 30 min, than Gilardino in 1 hour. Against Lazio. Gila had already played 180min with Italy where he did an amazing job!!!! I did not expect him to do anything against Lazio ... Rino couldn't even make it to the game, how do you expect Gila to do his job nice??? ....
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Sep 12 2006, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Sep 12 2006, 09:42 AM) Gila had already played 180min with Italy where he did an amazing job!!!! I did not expect him to do anything against Lazio ... Rino couldn't even make it to the game, how do you expect Gila to do his job nice??? .... Wasn't Rino suspeneded? But you're right, and from what I'm hearing about the match, Pirlo didn't do anything special either. And these players have to play another game tomorrow. I think Gourcuff should have come in for Pirlo in the Lazio game. We can't afford for Pirlo to get burned out again with fatigue like last season, he is too vital. Maybe he should be rested tomorrow, against AEK, as dst has been saying they are not good so we don't need a full strength team. And the games will get tougher as the season progresses and when that time comes we will need a Pirlo at 100%
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Sep 12 2006, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 12 2006, 02:37 PM) Wasn't Rino suspeneded? Maybe he should be rested tomorrow, against AEK, as dst has been saying they are not good so we don't need a full strength team. And the games will get tougher as the season progresses and when that time comes we will need a Pirlo at 100% Rino was suspended ofcourse but even in Paris he looked exhausted!!! I think Pirlo should start so that the good start will be safely sealed ... Gourcuff could come later in the game!!! Do not underestimate AEK ... they got nothing to lose in this game; when you got nothing to lose you play with no fear ... and that is what concerns me the most; then again the quality level is too low; we must kill the game in an instance!!!
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Sep 12 2006, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Sep 12 2006, 11:46 AM) Rino was suspended ofcourse but even in Paris he looked exhausted!!! I think Pirlo should start so that the good start will be safely sealed ... Gourcuff could come later in the game!!! Do not underestimate AEK ... they got nothing to lose in this game; when you got nothing to lose you play with no fear ... and that is what concerns me the most; then again the quality level is too low; we must kill the game in an instance!!! You're right. But at least Pirlo should be rested in some not so important games. Parma don't look as strong as last season, so I would rest Pirlo then. Because when he is off-form he is still no use to us and it's better if he doesn't play because he starts to lose the ball in dangerous places My formation fo this game would be something like this Cafu--Nesta--Maldini--Janku (I removed the winger (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ) --Gattuso---Pirlo---Seedorf-- --------------Kaka------------- -----Gila/Pippo--Oliveira----- I think Gila shoul be given the nod for this game, this is his golden opportunity to break his duck, and if somehow that doesn't happen and we need a goal, then Pippo should be brought in.
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Sep 12 2006, 04:11 PM
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You'd like to think this will be a formality and milan will take 3 points from this game. Hopefully we can keep the clean sheet and score at least 3 goals. I'm hoping we see the defensive line: bonera nesta kaladze jankulovski in the future If oliveira is fit, I think he should start with gila. From what I've seen of oli, my first impressions were he could be a real threat in europe, due to the open space for through balls and long runs. I'm expecting to see some good exchanges between oli, kaka' and pirlo. FORZA MILAN! (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)
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Sep 12 2006, 06:55 PM
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re dst me pia omada ise stin ellada;
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Sep 12 2006, 07:39 PM
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no hablo greek....Lol....yo dst heard of the expression It's all greek and latin?? Guess you can never use that! (IMG: http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) As for the match...I'm going with han's formation...cept i'd let oli and pippo start. In my opinion, it's more important to get Oli in top notch form for CL. We are gonna need a lot from him... Gila and Oli start against Parma...so does Gourcuff... Man I wish...LaPalma was not Kaka in disguise but Carlo... Ahh and score...I think 2-0 or 1-0...coz I'm providing for a tired and (by his standards) ineffective Pirlo.
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Sep 12 2006, 07:51 PM
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Oh bugger?
Hey is Carlo there in this forum??
Well in that case..I'm sure Oli is not 100pc fit...no other explanation
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Sep 12 2006, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE Ancelotti aware of AEK danger This may be Carlo Ancelotti's sixth season in charge of AC Milan but his desire to win has not diminished with the passage of time. Ahead of the Rossoneri's opening Group H encounter with AEK Athens FC on Wednesday the coach made it abundantly clear just how important he considers the UEFA Champions League, saying simply: "It's our main objective." European love affair Milan's love affair with the UEFA Champions League is such that their name has become synonymous with the competition. Only Real Madrid CF have won more European Champion Clubs' Cups and a glance at the Italian giants' performance in the tournament over the last five years pays testament to their coach. In that time Milan have reached the final twice, winning it in 2003, and the semi-finals and quarter-finals on one further occasion each. 'Dangerous ground' However, Ancelotti has not got this far by underestimating his opposition, and was quick to contradict suggestions that a group containing AEK, LOSC Lille Métropole and RSC Anderlecht would be straightforward for the six-time winners. "You're on dangerous ground if you think things will be easy," said Ancelotti. "AEK may be little-known but it is the lesser-known sides that can spring surprises. We need to respect them the same way we do the bigger clubs. What's more, having played only one league match so far this season some clubs are fitter than us. They will be up for the fight and so must we be." Winning start Unlike their Greek counterparts, who have mustered draws in their first three league matches, Milan got their Serie A campaign off to a winning start by overcoming S.S. Lazio 2-1 on Sunday. Alessandro Nesta and Paolo Maldini returned to central defence after injury and Ancelotti refused to blame their lack of match sharpness for the Lazio goal, saying: "That wasn't a result of individual errors, the whole team got stretched. We need to be careful of counterattacks and get back quicker. This is a tournament we want to win and we can't afford to get off to a bad start." First victory Although underdogs, AEK also have no intention of starting the competition inauspiciously, even if they are still seeking their first UEFA Champions League victory after 18 games in the competition. The Greek outfit will take to the field with a positive attitude, according to their coach Lorenzo Serra Ferrer: "My players must only have one thing in mind and that's winning. Things can always change during the course of a match and we're playing a good side." 'Nothing to lose' Serra Ferrer is without Ifeanyi Udeze due to a knee injury but refuses to be downbeat. "My hand is forced with the suspension to Nikolaos Georgeas and the Udeze injury but we're still going to give it our best shot. I wouldn't say that we have nothing to lose because there is always something to play for but we certainly aren't under the same pressure as Milan and there is no reason why we shouldn't give them a run for their money." Probable lineups Milan: Dida; Cafu, Paolo Maldini, Alessandro Nesta, Serginho; Gennaro Gattuso, Andrea Pirlo, Clarence Seedorf, Kaká; Alberto Gilardino, Filippo Inzaghi. AEK: Stefano Sorrentino; Martin Pautasso, Traianos Dellas, Bruno Cirillo, Stavros Giorgiopoulos; Emerson, Evangelos Moras, Vladimir Ivić; Júlio César, Nikolaos Lyberopoulos, Panagiotis Lagos. link
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Sep 12 2006, 09:34 PM
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Milan keen to get back to businessThere have been few more difficult summers in the history of AC Milan than the one just past but the UEFA Champions League traditionally brings out the best in the Italian giants, and they will be looking to get off to a good start when they take on AEK Athens FC at the San Siro on Matchday 1. • Finishing runners-up in Serie A would normally guarantee an automatic ticket to the UEFA Champions League group stage but a 30-point reduction for Milan's part in a sports tribunal case saw them relegated to third position. That put Carlo Ancelotti's men in the third qualifying round for Europe's premier club competition where they edged past FK Crvena Zvezda 3-1 on aggregate, with Filippo Inzaghi on target in each game. Home comforts• Six-time winners of the European Champion Clubs' Cup, Milan will be hoping to recapture their impressive home form in the competition. Ludovic Giuly's smart finish for FC Barcelona in last season's semi-final first leg, the only goal of the tie, spoiled a run of 12 wins in 13 home games. • They have also been robust starters in each of the last four UEFA Champions League seasons - winning their opening fixture in each case and going on to top the group. Past meetings• Milan faced AEK in the group stage of the 1994/95 UEFA Champions League - the teams have not met in the intervening 12 years and neither have Milan faced any opposition from Greece in that time - when they followed a 0-0 away draw with a 2-1 win in a game that took place in Trieste. • It continued Milan's sequence of never having lost to Greek sides in UEFA competition. In the each of their previous three ties with Greek opposition to date, over the two games the Rossoneri have won at home and drawn away. AEK task• This is AEK's third UEFA Champions League campaign in five seasons and Lorenzo Serra Ferrer's team will be hoping to record their first ever victory in the competition in Milan. In a total of 18 games so far their record reads ten draws and eight defeats. • On their last visit to Italy the Greek league runners-up managed to hold AS Roma to a 1-1 draw in the 2002/03 UEFA Champions League – the only time they have ever come away from the country with a result after six previous defeats. UEFA.com
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Sep 13 2006, 03:14 PM
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We're probably going to play with this line-up:
Dida; Cafu, Simic, Maldini, Favalli; Brocchi, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Seedorf; R. Oliveira, Inzaghi.
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Sep 13 2006, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 13 2006, 02:14 PM) We're probably going to play with this line-up: Dida; Cafu, Simic, Maldini, Favalli; Brocchi, Gattuso, Gourcuff, Seedorf; R. Oliveira, Inzaghi. I agree to rest Kaka' and Pirlo. Nesta too. AEK should not be a big problem for those 11.
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Sep 13 2006, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Sep 12 2006, 06:13 PM) apo tin kipro. kai ego me kamia mono milan
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Sep 13 2006, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE (Costacurta @ Sep 13 2006, 03:55 PM) Is Kaladze injured or something becuase noones mentioning him. I think we could rest Maldini here since his situation will always be precarious. Cafu's attacking bite could be useful. I think I'd go with this -------------------------Dida--------------------- Cafu---------Bonera---------Nesta-------Kaladze(if avail, then Serg) --------Gattuso------Pirlo------Seedorf-------- -------------------Gourcuff------------------------ -------------Gila--------------Olivera I too fancy giving Gila the chance to get some confidence here in CL, we know Pippo is one of the most reliable strikers in Europe still, and obviously Olivera will need to become well acquainted with European football quickly. Billy on the bench. Kaladze is still injured and won't be available for the next 15 days. I'm pretty sure our defence will be as I mentioned above, though I don't know who Carlo will choose for the midfield (Kakàor Gourcuff) and the attack.
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Sep 13 2006, 05:50 PM
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Forza Pippo Inzaghi!!!!
Prediction:2-0
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Sep 13 2006, 06:10 PM
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Sep 13 2006, 06:33 PM
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he 1 hour to go. i hope gila scores
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Sep 13 2006, 06:59 PM
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Bit of a surprise both gourcuff and oliveira starting, a good surprise however.
Shame the same can't be said about simic and favalli, talk bout fragile defenses.
Hmm fair chance were going to concede to aek, sad sad day if that happens.
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Sep 13 2006, 07:27 PM
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I'm so excited to watch the game....I can't wait any longer!
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Sep 13 2006, 07:48 PM
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Sep 13 2006, 07:55 PM
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How have we started..
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Sep 13 2006, 08:05 PM
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SUPERPIPPO!!!!!! Damn portugal you are fast...
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Sep 13 2006, 08:05 PM
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PIPPO!!!!!!! Great start to the season 4 games for 4 goals.
Who sent in the cross..
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Sep 13 2006, 08:28 PM
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GOURCUFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good to know kaka' got the assist, my team is sucking though.
2-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great start, how are we defending tonight?
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Sep 13 2006, 08:28 PM
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That was a great goal. Btw this is really Pippos match so far!
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