[han2503]

Back to the Serie A and a must win for us in this one seeing as Juve play Udine and we have a mother of a fixture list coming our way, Lazio, Napoli, Udine and Juve... Ouch, and with all the injuries we have...

Anyways, hoping to see this line-up

Abate--Nesta--Thiago--Mesbah
Seedorf--VB--Nocerino
Robinho
El Shaa--Ibra

[William405]

Attacking lineup there han (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) .I prefer emmanuelson instead of Seedorf.

[Fillipo Simone]

Emanuelson? No, I really think he's better suited as a fullback.

[William405]

I disagree,he works best as a midfielder,where he doesn't have the biggest defensive responsibilites.He can operate very well as a wide midfielder,his passing skills are really good and his vision is not bad(as seen in the assist for Ibra).He's similar to Nocerino.He might not sheild the ball in the best manner though,and not enough physical stength(that can be said about Seedorf too,but he's a master at shielding the ball).You said it yourself that he did well at fullback when Inter were gone all defense.

[Fillipo Simone]

I know. To be honest, I don't like the guy. As I said earlier, he's the type of player small clubs adore - he can fill out almost every position from defender to attacker, yet he isn't actually good in any role. He's mediocre at best, and that's why I'd prefer Seedorf over him at any day and any age.

[William405]

I'm just bit afraid about the physical aspect of the game,but if we play with the great heart and determination that we played against Lazio,then this formation will be more than OK.

[han2503]

Attacking lineup there han (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) .I prefer emmanuelson instead of Seedorf.

I don't see that as an attacking lineup, we're still utilising the 2 defensive mids, and Robinho will form part of the 4-man midfield as well. It's a well balanced line-up imo

As fur Urby, Like Filippo, I prefer him as FB, although he does well on the turn when he's in the midfield, still I feel that we need that creative touch in midfield, some vision to link up the plays, keep the ball moving, etc. Seedorf will do that for us

Emanuelson? No, I really think he's better suited as a fullback.

Agreed

[Fillipo Simone]

The problem with Emanuelson is that he tends to fall out of formation, drifting to the sides and making a big whole in our midfield. Add Bonera as CB to that and we have a Swiss-cheese problem.

[William405]

I don't see that as an attacking lineup, we're still utilising the 2 defensive mids, and Robinho will form part of the 4-man midfield as well. It's a well balanced line-up imo

As fur Urby, Like Filippo, I prefer him as FB, although he does well on the turn when he's in the midfield, still I feel that we need that creative touch in midfield, some vision to link up the plays, keep the ball moving, etc. Seedorf will do that for us


Agreed

Nocerino can't be considered a defensive midfield.He's more of a box to box midfielder.And,we utilize a system on the wide side,where our wide midfielders cover our fullbacks,a job which Seedorf isn't that bad at at,when he is motivated(hopefully).Van Bommel is the only one covering our center backs.So,we are really playing with one Defensive midfield,and that should do if everyone does his job.

[CHU-LIP]

Nocerino can't be considered a defensive midfield.He's more of a box to box midfielder.And,we utilize a system on the wide side,where our wide midfielders cover our fullbacks,a job which Seedorf isn't that bad at at,when he is motivated(hopefully).Van Bommel is the only one covering our center backs.So,we are really playing with one Defensive midfield,and that should do if everyone does his job.

Exactly!

Emanuelson does more defending than Nocerino. I would like Urby starting at RCM, so that Seedorf can play on his good side: LCM.

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Jan 28 2012, 03:37 PM

[han2503]

Nocerino can't be considered a defensive midfield.He's more of a box to box midfielder.And,we utilize a system on the wide side,where our wide midfielders cover our fullbacks,a job which Seedorf isn't that bad at at,when he is motivated(hopefully).Van Bommel is the only one covering our center backs.So,we are really playing with one Defensive midfield,and that should do if everyone does his job.

Nocerino is a defensive midfielder, yes he makes late runs into the box, but he covers spaces in our midfield and that is his main job, more than running into the box.

Exactly!

Emanuelson does more defending than Nocerino. I would like Urby starting at RCM, so that Seedorf can play on his good side: LCM.

You want to drop Nocerino? For Urby??

Oh my...

[William405]

Nocerino has been playing non stop for sometime now,though I wouldn't take such a risk for such an important game.

[Fillipo Simone]

Coppa was the chance to do so; I wouldn't risk it now.

[Jack Bauer]

I wouldn't play Seedorf just in order to keep him for tougher games. After this game, our next 4 games are against top teams and it's every 3 days: Lazio midweek, then Napoli, Juve in the coppa (Nocerino is suspended there) and Udinese. We can beat Cagliari without him.

[han2503]

I wouldn't play Seedorf just in order to keep him for tougher games. After this game, our next 4 games are against top teams and it's every 3 days: Lazio midweek, then Napoli, Juve in the coppa (Nocerino is suspended there) and Udinese. We can beat Cagliari without him.

We'll see what happens, yes we should be able to cope without him since Robinho will be behind the strikers. I didn't know Lazio was during the middle of the week though

[Jack Bauer]

That was one of the problems in the beginning of the season is that he had to play every 3 days. At this stage of his career we need to use him wisely. Cagliari at San Siro is no threat to us.

[han2503]

That was one of the problems in the beginning of the season is that he had to play every 3 days. At this stage of his career we need to use him wisely. Cagliari at San Siro is no threat to us.

I'm sure Juve had the same thought and they lost points against them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

That being said, we should be able to get the job done while resting Seedorf for Lazio.

Oh and btw, Thiago is not called up for this one

[Jack Bauer]

I'm sure Juve had the same thought and they lost points against them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

That being said, we should be able to get the job done while resting Seedorf for Lazio.

Oh and btw, Thiago is not called up for this one

We already beat them away, nothing to be scared about (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Silva has inflammation in the groin, doubtful for the Lazio game as well.

[Fillipo Simone]

This means Bonera starting, right?

[William405]

Mexes?!!!!?

[Jack Bauer]

Yep, Mexes - Nesta.

This post has been edited by Jack Bauer: Jan 28 2012, 08:22 PM

[Fillipo Simone]

Yeah, slipped my mind. Great.

[CHU-LIP]

Nocerino has been playing non stop for sometime now,though I wouldn't take such a risk for such an important game.

Coppa was the chance to do so; I wouldn't risk it now.

Do you guys know the schedule? Milan at home against Cagliari looks like easy compared to what is following...

It actually is a good game to rest players.

[KillerMax]

Excited about Nesta Mexes. If they give us the clean sheet, I can see the attackers scoring one or two.

[Fillipo Simone]

Do you guys know the schedule? Milan at home against Cagliari looks like easy compared to what is following...

It actually is a good game to rest players.

Actually I did not know Lazio was midweek, just like Han.

[X-Offender]

Probable line-up: Abbiati; Abate, Nesta, Mexes, Antonini; Van Bommel, Ambrosini, Nocerino; Seedorf; Robinho, Ibrahimovic.

Source: Mediaset

We have too many injuries. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

How typical of Allegri not to extend his trust in Mesbah but rather "test" one more time how liable Antonini is.

[William405]

How typical of Allegri not to extend his trust in Mesbah but rather "test" one more time how liable Antonini is.

I think he has fitness problems,not 100percent sure.

[KillerMax]

I think he has fitness problems,not 100percent sure.

Yeah, apparently he still hasn't recovered from our last game due to not being 100% fit.

This post has been edited by KillerMax: Jan 29 2012, 02:06 PM

[han2503]

How typical of Allegri not to extend his trust in Mesbah but rather "test" one more time how liable Antonini is.

And to not give El Shaa a Serie A start in order to play Ambro in a 3 DM midfield (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

So typical. Last Sunday's stagnant performance was not enough to show him that that kind of midfield simply cannot function

[I_Rossoneri]

Wow, let's all bash Allegri because of a speculated formation! Perhaps we should wait until kickoff before we start bashing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

Where's the fun in that. We're a bunch of beer guzzling, testosterone fueled wimpy male dudes who ooze cyber machismo. WE DO NOW WAIT. WE ARE NOT LEVEL HEADED. AND WE SURE AS HELL ARE NOT GIVING A SCUDETTO WINNING COACH - BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT!!

Man...Allegri you sorry piece of cr@P!!!

/end-rant


That formation does seem likely though. Primarily because we don't have enough personnel.

[han2503]

Wow, let's all bash Allegri because of a speculated formation! Perhaps we should wait until kickoff before we start bashing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Are you seriously trying to question the fact that Allegri would come out with a defensive and negative formation? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

We went out with the same mess last weekend and it didn't work until he made the changes the we should have started with, let's try it again to see if it works this time around (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Typical Allegri

[Fillipo Simone]

Who's bashing anyone?

[nuh]

i really want maxi to play this game...i'm really curious to see what he could offer us

[han2503]

i really want maxi to play this game...i'm really curious to see what he could offer us

Maxi playing means no time for El Shaa, he's a typical average striker imo, I can't see him offering us anything we don't already have

[CHU-LIP]

Maxi playing means no time for El Shaa, he's a typical average striker imo, I can't see him offering us anything we don't already have

He does offers something differently, but mostly depth. And I believe he is purely signed as depth, and maybe also because he's a tall striker (we have mostly supporting strikers). I think and hope Maxi López is the last man in order (except for Pippo). Especially after El Shaarawy's impressive games it only makes sense he gets preferred over Maxi López. Stephan is our future, and very skilled already. We just needed someone more, since we only had Ibrahimovic, Robinho and Stephan available, and Pippo...

And it's a loan right? (With option to buy.) He just is here to solve the injury stuff (Cassano, Pato), and leave in Summer (like Milan is going to spend money on him?).

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Jan 29 2012, 06:35 PM

[nuh]

He does offers something differently, but mostly depth. And I believe he is purely signed as depth, and maybe also because he's a tall striker (we have mostly supporting strikers). I think and hope Maxi López is the last man in order (except for Pippo). Especially after El Shaarawy's impressive games it only makes sense he gets preferred over Maxi López. Stephan is our future, and very skilled already. We just needed someone more, since we only had Ibrahimovic, Robinho and Stephan available, and Pippo...

And it's a loan right? (With option to buy.) He just is here to solve the injury stuff (Cassano, Pato), and leave in Summer (like Milan is going to spend money on him?).

apparently galliani wants to keep him after that too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[CHU-LIP]

apparently galliani wants to keep him after that too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Maybe he says that to give the player a confidence boost (which benefit Milan when he plays for us). At least I hope so? Or at least let's see first what he does for us this season obviously before making that decision. He needs to earn a stay, if anything. But the price we would have to pay for him is quite a lot, I think? Is it 7 mio?! Because then he should be send back in any case. With his age and averageness, it's a bad investment.

[Jack Sparrow]

Dunno. The price remains a secret. According to the Catania Prez as well.

[KillerMax]

Catania turned down 9 mill in order to give him to Milan... I can't see the price being much less than that.

[Jack Sparrow]

Oh..we will give Catania a few co-ownerships. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Uncle Fester is to our primavera what pimp is to ho! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)

[KillerMax]

Oh..we will give Catania a few co-ownerships. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Uncle Fester is to our primavera what pimp is to ho! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif)

You made me heehee (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Keep it up and I might forgive you for your recent atrocities.

[han2503]

He does offers something differently, but mostly depth. And I believe he is purely signed as depth, and maybe also because he's a tall striker (we have mostly supporting strikers). I think and hope Maxi López is the last man in order (except for Pippo). Especially after El Shaarawy's impressive games it only makes sense he gets preferred over Maxi López. Stephan is our future, and very skilled already. We just needed someone more, since we only had Ibrahimovic, Robinho and Stephan available, and Pippo...

And it's a loan right? (With option to buy.) He just is here to solve the injury stuff (Cassano, Pato), and leave in Summer (like Milan is going to spend money on him?).

Like Max said, the price for him would have to be around the 8m region. Galliani won't spend 6m out-right for Aqui, why he would spend 8m on a 5th choice striker when we have an abbundance of talent in the position

[CHU-LIP]

Like Max said, the price for him would have to be around the 8m region. Galliani won't spend 6m out-right for Aqui, why he would spend 8m on a 5th choice striker when we have an abbundance of talent in the position

Of course Galliani won't.

Milan just wanted to fix the forward depth in a cheap way / without spending money ..by giving both Maxi López and Catania false hope that he will be purchased eventually (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[I_Rossoneri]

Are you seriously trying to question the fact that Allegri would come out with a defensive and negative formation? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

We went out with the same mess last weekend and it didn't work until he made the changes the we should have started with, let's try it again to see if it works this time around (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Typical Allegri

If we're so 'negaitve' then how come we're one of the top scoring teams in the Serie A? I think we need four more goals to reach 50 and that's after 20 rounds! If that's negative then I'd love to see your definition of positive football - perhaps you should watch La Liga? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[I_Rossoneri]

OFFICIAL "XI" VS CAGLIARI (4-3-1-2): Abbiati_Abate-Nesta-Mexes-Mesbah_Seedorf-Van Bommel-Nocerino_Emanuelson_Ibrahimovic-Robinho

Let the bashing begin...

[X-Offender]

Better Emanuelson as AM then a Nocerino-MvB-Ambrosini midfield.

[William405]

Better than playing Ambrosini as a midfielder.

EDIT:lol

This post has been edited by William405: Jan 29 2012, 08:05 PM

[han2503]

If we're so 'negaitve' then how come we're one of the top scoring teams in the Serie A? I think we need four more goals to reach 50 and that's after 20 rounds! If that's negative then I'd love to see your definition of positive football - perhaps you should watch La Liga? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Even if we scored a lot, that does not mean that you play positive, attacking football. We play a very stagnant, workman-like game. Most of our goals come from our attackers in terms of build-up, not through the midfield

OFFICIAL "XI" VS CAGLIARI (4-3-1-2): Abbiati_Abate-Nesta-Mexes-Mesbah_Seedorf-Van Bommel-Nocerino_Emanuelson_Ibrahimovic-Robinho

Let the bashing begin...

Oh my...

And who wouldn't complain with that? Typical Allegri!

[d'Arc.LP]

Official Line-Up: Abbiati, Abate, Nesta, Mexes, Mesbah, Seedorf, Van Bommel, Nocerino, Emanuelson, Ibrahimovic, Robinho
Bench: Amelia, Antonini, Bonera, Zambrotta, Ambrosini, El Shaarawy, Inzaghi, Maxi Lopez

[Jack Bauer]

El Sha instead of Urby would have made that a perfect line up.

Anyway, let's see, maybe Seedorf will play as AM.

[William405]

El Sha instead of Urby would have made that a perfect line up.

Anyway, let's see, maybe Seedorf will play as AM.

Yeah,playing Seedorf as an AM seems like a better solution.El-sharaawy will be better coming as a sub surely.

[I_Rossoneri]

Even if we scored a lot, that does not mean that you play positive, attacking football. We play a very stagnant, workman-like game. Most of our goals come from our attackers in terms of build-up, not through the midfield

Can't please all the people all the time.

Oh my...

And who wouldn't complain with that? Typical Allegri!

If we win then I won't complain.

[han2503]

El Sha instead of Urby would have made that a perfect line up.

Anyway, let's see, maybe Seedorf will play as AM.

He'll probably make the change around the 70th minute unless Ibra manages to score once he realises his mistake...

[d'Arc.LP]

(IMG:https://p.twimg.com/AkWZcPTCIAA0gVE.jpg)

(IMG:https://p.twimg.com/AkWaTxLCMAANdz_.jpg)

(IMG:https://p.twimg.com/AkWbD0rCAAAn9pN.jpg)

This post has been edited by d'Arc.LP: Jan 29 2012, 08:38 PM

[William405]

Seedorf is playing as an AM

[han2503]

Seedorf is playing as an AM

His passing has been horrible

[han2503]

His passing has been horrible

Scratch that, the entire team's passing has been complete cr@p

[drucurl]

Yawwwwwwwnnnnnn (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

Some of our passing makes me believe..that I can be a footballer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[han2503]

IBRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

What a goal!!!!!!!!!

[drucurl]

Ibraaaaaa scorcher!!!!

[Jack Sparrow]

YOU MONSTER!!! THERE YOU GO SAVING YOUR BOSS'S JOB AGAIN!!!

[Jack Sparrow]

I have to say..after all the fuss we make about Astori...I just don't get it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

Ibra doing his best 'You talking to me?' impression... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[milanbuf88]

Anyone have a link?

[Jack Sparrow]

...and I'm talking to myself. I might as well start replying to my own posts...

[Jack Sparrow]

Anyone have a link?

I'm watching it here : Bonuci

Scroll down till you find the blog post with our match's links. It's the 3rd entry. Bottom of the blog post are the links. Canale 4 is showing our match in English.

[han2503]

NOCERINOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[drucurl]

Nocerinoooooooooooooooooooooo

[Jack Sparrow]

...and the incredible force of nature who is our number 11 holds off two defenders to chest a long ball into the path of the onrushing Nocerino who times his run perfectly to shot a neat out swing shot on the half-volley. Agazzi had no chance.

Might I please repeat:

1. IBRA YOU MONSTER!!
2. Astori...what's the big deal again? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[Jack Bauer]

GREAT GOAL!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

Our current number 22 scored more goals than our former number 22 this season (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

Who was our former number 22? After Kaka that is... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[milanbuf88]

I'm watching it here : Bonuci

Scroll down till you find the blog post with our match's links. It's the 3rd entry. Bottom of the blog post are the links. Canale 4 is showing our match in English.

Thanks Jack!

[Jack Sparrow]

...you're welcome.

Urby's one-dimensionality is worrying. It's good that he runs and can do a decent interchange..but surely that is not enough to play the position behind the strikers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[Jack Bauer]

Who was our former number 22? After Kaka that is... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

I meant Kaka (but I think Borriello also had 22).

[han2503]

HT Finished it nicely after an indifferent start

[han2503]

...you're welcome.

Urby's one-dimensionality is worrying. It's good that he runs and can do a decent interchange..but surely that is not enough to play the position behind the strikers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

He's on the right side of midfield though. Seedorf is behind the strikers. Which makes Urby less of a pessenger

[Jack Sparrow]

HT. I wouldn't call it fluent.

We got our two goals due to the battering ram that is Ibra.

One was a free kick and the other was from a long ball. Our passing has been a little inconsistent, but we seem to switch play and find space pretty well.

Overall...we are proving a good Serie A contender...but this won't be an Arsenal beating side.

[Fillipo Simone]

I meant Kaka (but I think Borriello also had 22).

Yep, Borriello.

Again, we're leading on Ibra credit.

Emanuelson has been awful. The guy clearly can't play on the right, I mean he wasted so many opportunities to make a decent cross or pass to Abate.

[CrazyMilanFan]

decent half for us even better scoreline

[Jack Sparrow]

He's on the right side of midfield though. Seedorf is behind the strikers. Which makes Urby less of a pessenger

Well it's more of a lop-sided 4-2-3-1 we are playing...than a proper 4-3-1-2. Urby is not making himself available deep enough...so he is often in that space just outside the penalty box. The idea is to deal with the parked bus tactic I guess, since his runs will stretch the defence.

[William405]

Yeah,we're all complaining about Urby and stuff,but we don't notice that this formation was probably the ideal one in these curcimstances,there are other solutions,but it's highly debatable as well.Nocerino with another wonderful,and Ibra and Robinho busting their *** one more time.

[I_Rossoneri]

We'll never be able to play lovely fluid football against a team that plays ten men behind the ball, so with that in mind we've done well so far. Did I also hear rightly that even the great Juve couldn't score against them? If so then we're not doing that badly. Saying that I'd like to see the Pharaoh on for Seedorf in the second half as I feel him and Binho can unlock Cagliari with their pace.

And as for Arsenal, they won't play ten behind the ball which will give us a chance.

[I_Rossoneri]

Nocerino goal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZR72iz0B7s...player_embedded

This post has been edited by I_Rossoneri: Jan 29 2012, 09:52 PM

[I_Rossoneri]

DP

[han2503]

Nocerino has been pushed to the right! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/swear1.gif)

[han2503]

Nocerino almost with the second!

[William405]

Nice shot there!

[drucurl]

we're back to sucking (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

El Sharaawy on...for Robinho I think. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

[han2503]

Ambro for Seedorf. Probably a good idea to give him a rest for Lazio

[Jack Sparrow]

...and now Ambro on for Zee...huh?

EDIT: Ok...things are better. Zee seemed to hand over the armband to Ambro who proceeded to wear it. And this isn't done normally so... but now I see Nesta has taken it.

[William405]

Nocerino's work rate is bloody amazing.

[Jack Sparrow]

Rough from Nesta- yellow.

[William405]

Looks at Han

[han2503]

AMBRO!!

Great goal! Great buildup

[drucurl]

Ambroooooooo

[milanbuf88]

Nice goal by Ambro! Great pass from Urby!