[Fillipo Simone]

(IMG:http://www.mcalcio.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/juve-milan.jpg)

Form Guide: Milan (D L D W -) Juventus(W W D -)

Last season: Juventus 0 - 1 AC Milan

Side notes: Last season Milan won with a Gattuso goal against a weaker Juventus; but both matches against them weren't comfortable for us. This season they are stronger, with a better coach and playing on their new stadium the first real derby. Pirlo could be motivated as well - it will be heartbreaking to see him play against Milan. Hopefully Milan will have Ibrahimovic at disposal.

(IMG:http://www.footballfigures.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Alberto-Aquilani-150x150.jpg) (IMG:http://www.cleansheetsallround.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/Andrea-Pirlo-Chelsea-2011-150x150.jpg) (IMG:http://www.gallerysportszone.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Filippo-Inzaghi-In-Juventus-150x150.jpg) (IMG:http://www.direttanews.it/wp-content/uploads/06nocerino-150x150.jpg) (IMG:http://christianabbiati.it/images/small/abbiati_119.jpg) (IMG:http://www.passion-acmilan.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/storari-150x150.jpg) (IMG:http://soccer-magazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/ibrahimovic-juventus-150x150.jpg)

[TriniKing_CE]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) Can't wait...

Btw nice opening post! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by TriniKing_CE: Sep 25 2011, 01:51 AM

[Fillipo Simone]

Btw nice opening post! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[X-Offender]

It looks like Boateng won't recover in time for this one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

It looks like Boateng won't recover in time for this one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

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[TriniKing_CE]

Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Might want to include Ibra's pic to the intro. post. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


...



No Boateng... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) x2

This post has been edited by TriniKing_CE: Sep 25 2011, 08:57 PM

[vahid]

Might want to include Ibra's pic to the intro. post. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

also Pippo can be there.

[TriniKing_CE]

also Pippo can be there.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

...

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Pippo is there dude. Third from the left (first row)

[TriniKing_CE]

also Pippo can be there.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

...

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Pippo is there dude. Third from the left (first row)

(IMG:http://www.gallerysportszone.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Filippo-Inzaghi-In-Juventus-150x150.jpg)

[Fillipo Simone]

Done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Ibra and Storari added.

[Milan Are Brilli...]

Pirlo may just prove a few doubters wrong.

[Rossoneri7]

Pirlo may just prove a few doubters wrong.

Only a few (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

Let's hope this one won't be the match though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[d'Arc.LP]

I really hope Pirlo plays his best game (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . Scoring a free kick but with Milani winning 3-1 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[han2503]

I really hope Pirlo plays his best game (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) . Scoring a free kick but with Milani winning 3-1 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I don't really expect much from Pirlo, especially against us, Allegri usually puts out a very strong and combative 4 in midfield, even without Boateng, we'll be able to overpower Pirlo and Marchisio/Vidal. At least that's how I see it going, they'll mostly threaten us on the wings, which is why Taiwo should get the nod in the CL game while Zambro should start this one.

I'm not saying Pirlo won't do his all to play a great game against us, but I think he'll be very ristricted and limited in what he can do if Conte doesn't provide him with proper cover. And I think it could be the same story the entire season, teams in Serie A don't take too long to figure out what needs to be done to nullify such threats, Pirlo was great in the first 2 games because his position was new so teams couldn't adapt easily, now we're already seeing his influence dwindling a bit because teams target him easily in that kind of set up.

[X-Offender]

About Boateng, Allegri said that they'll have to evaluate his conditions for the Juve game, implying that there may be hope for seeing him on the pitch on Sunday. It would be awesome to have him for that game.

[X-Offender]

Boateng recovers. He trained regularly with the rest of the team.

Link

[CrazyMilanFan]

Boateng recovers. He trained regularly with the rest of the team.

Link

oh great..

[han2503]

Boateng recovers. He trained regularly with the rest of the team.

Link

Phew, so Boateng, Ibra back for Juve. Robs will be back after the break. Things are looking better

[Fillipo Simone]

...so far (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[han2503]

...so far (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Yep, you can't tell when another injury crises will hit, especially with our medical team (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[X-Offender]

Probable line-ups:

Juventus (4-2-4): Buffon; Lichtsteiner, Barzagli, Chiellini, Grosso; Pirlo, Marchisio; Krasic, Vucinic, Matri, Pepe.

Milan (4-3-1-2): Abbiati; Abate, Nesta, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta; Nocerino, Van Bommel, Seedorf; K.P. Boateng; Ibrahimovic, Cassano.

[nuh]

not a bad line up, i would only prefer pato over cassano, we should win this game though.

[CHU-LIP]

a good line up, i would only prefer robinho over cassano

something else had vidal i.o. matri (gazzetta i think)

This post has been edited by CHU-LIP: Sep 30 2011, 11:37 AM

[d'Arc.LP]

Official: Ignazio Abate has a groin strain which prevented him from taking part in training both yesterday and today. He will miss Juve.

[Jack Bauer]

Official: Ignazio Abate has a groin strain which prevented him from taking part in training both yesterday and today. He will miss Juve.

That probably means Zambro as RB and Antonin as LB.

[han2503]

Antonini better not start at LB in this one!

Zambro on the right, Taiwo on the left.

[d'Arc.LP]

Antonini better not start at LB in this one!

Zambro on the right, Taiwo on the left.

+1

[X-Offender]

Allegri will not start Taiwo in a million years. Zambro on the right and Antonini on the left is better than Zambro on the left and Bonera on the right.

[han2503]

Allegri will not start Taiwo in a million years. Zambro on the right and Antonini on the left is better than Zambro on the left and Bonera on the right.

Bonera and Antonini are basically the same entity. The only question is who's going to mess up the worst when it's not their night (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[nuh]

Bonera and Antonini are basically the same entity. The only question is who's going to mess up the worst when it's not their night (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Bonera would win that hands down!!
and thats the only thing he'll win (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

This post has been edited by nuh: Sep 30 2011, 08:30 PM

[CHU-LIP]

Zambro on the right and Antonini on the left is better than Zambro on the left and Bonera on the right.

I disagree. Rightback is Bonera's best position in my opinion and does well there usually.

[han2503]

I disagree. Rightback is Bonera's best position in my opinion and does well there usually.

Both are terrible players that we should have off-loaded this summer. Bonera was once a very promising young CB, but his injuries not only seem to have halted his growth but made him regress.

Antonini is a one hit wonder that Dinho made look good.

Both shouldn't be on the pitch against top sides, or even mid level sides.

Allegri would be an idiot to play either of them when he has Taiwo, no matter how much he struggled last week, it still doesn't come anywhere close to the mistakes Bonera and Antonini have made in the past

[CHU-LIP]

Allegri would be an idiot to play either of them when he has Taiwo, no matter how much he struggled last week, it still doesn't come anywhere close to the mistakes Bonera and Antonini have made in the past

Agreed.

I would have understood chosing Zambrotta over Taiwo, but now Taiwo simply has to play. Against Bayern's Robben he showed he has the skills for it. A defense of Taiwo, Thiago Silva, Nesta and Zambrotta may not miss Abate.

[Fillipo Simone]

I disagree. Rightback is Bonera's best position in my opinion and does well there usually.

When exactly did he well there?

Allegri would be an idiot to play either of them when he has Taiwo, no matter how much he struggled last week, it still doesn't come anywhere close to the mistakes Bonera and Antonini have made in the past

Keep in mind that Taiwo was awful against Cesena, Antonini was good against Pilsen and awful against Lazio. Now, I'm not saying Allegri is right not to start Taiwo, but I don't think at this point that Taiwo, Bonera, Antonini makes such a big difference you are trying to make - all of them will be bad IMO and all of them will make at least one big mistake.

[han2503]

When exactly did he well there?


Keep in mind that Taiwo was awful against Cesena, Antonini was good against Pilsen and awful against Lazio. Now, I'm not saying Allegri is right not to start Taiwo, but I don't think at this point that Taiwo, Bonera, Antonini makes such a big difference you are trying to make - all of them will be bad IMO and all of them will make at least one big mistake.

You also have to keep in mind that Taiwo had just come back from a relatively long injury, he was doing well in pre-season before that.

If this was a debate of who should start between Zambro and Taiwo then I would be completely against Taiwo starting, but we're talking about Antonini here. One of our biggest liabilities!

[nuh]

I honestly think people are exaggerating over taiwo's performance last week, yeah sure there was room for improvement but i think a part from his touches he had a decent game and he linked up well with seedorf and the attackers
and like han said lets not forget that he just came back from a long injury and that he's at a new club that he didn't play much with...

This post has been edited by nuh: Oct 1 2011, 03:42 PM

[Fillipo Simone]

Well, I think the biggest liability is Bonera. Taiwo is still unproven, and like I said, I don't think Allegri trusts him enough to start with him against Juventus.

[Jack Bauer]

Called players: Abbiati, Amelia, Roma, Antonini, Bonera, De Sciglio, Nesta, Taiwo, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta, Ambrosini, Aquilani, Boateng, Emanuelson, Nocerino, Seedorf, Van Bommel, Cassano, El Shaarawy, Ibrahimovic, Inzaghi.

Knee injury scare for Pirlo

[nuh]

there are talks that pirlo might miss this game...fingers crossed

[d'Arc.LP]

According to Sky, Pirlo's problem is only a minor problem and he's ready for Milan.

[il_diavolo_mtl]

I think that people are vastly underatting Taiwo. He was an absolute monster for marseille and he has much more 2-way ability then antonini, who people here know i still rate. I agree Zambro offers more as a purely defensive LB, but Taiwo was the best Lb along with Cissokho and Tremoulinas in Ligue 1. he is a monster who can stand on FKs as the left footer. He should be the starter week-in week-out, no questions.

[X-Offender]

I think that people are vastly underatting Taiwo. He was an absolute monster for marseille and he has much more 2-way ability then antonini, who people here know i still rate. I agree Zambro offers more as a purely defensive LB, but Taiwo was the best Lb along with Cissokho and Tremoulinas in Ligue 1. he is a monster who can stand on FKs as the left footer. He should be the starter week-in week-out, no questions.

+1

Though, I don't think a single soul rates Antonini in here.

[Fillipo Simone]

Naah, I don't think Taiwo is "that" good. He's better then Antonini or Bonera, that's sure - but he lacks tactically discipline and is too old to start learning behaving like a Serie A Milan fullback. He's the typical offensive fullback teams like Marseille can afford to have but teams like Milan can't. He's also a bad match when we field the up and down running Abate. And the coach lost faith in him (after 1 match (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) - all that makes me think he's gonna stay for a short time here.

Not that I don't like him, I even rate him but - IMO he isn't what we need. Yeah, he can bomb free kicks, but what good does it bring? Seedorf can, Ibra can, Pato can. Plenty of players can do it. With our line-up, what we need is a quality defensive fullback who can replace Zambrotta and still has room/time to evolve.

[Jack Bauer]

And the coach lost faith in him (after 1 match (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )

Way too early to determine that. He'll have more chances to prove himself.
--------------------

Gazzeta has Bonera starting on the right. Not a pleasant thought.

[X-Offender]

Naah, I don't think Taiwo is "that" good. He's better then Antonini or Bonera, that's sure - but he lacks tactically discipline and is too old to start learning behaving like a Serie A Milan fullback. He's the typical offensive fullback teams like Marseille can afford to have but teams like Milan can't. He's also a bad match when we field the up and down running Abate. And the coach lost faith in him (after 1 match (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) ) - all that makes me think he's gonna stay for a short time here.

Not that I don't like him, I even rate him but - IMO he isn't what we need. Yeah, he can bomb free kicks, but what good does it bring? Seedorf can, Ibra can, Pato can. Plenty of players can do it. With our line-up, what we need is a quality defensive fullback who can replace Zambrotta and still has room/time to evolve.

You're jumping to conclusions way too soon. We're only in October, the guy's played two games in total. He lacks match fitness, and needs to adapt to Italian football. Maicon was the same age as Taiwo when he joined Inter. He was the typical Brazilian offensive fullback, playing for a French club as Monaco. Yet, he managed to turn great for them. I'm not saying Taiwo will become as good as Maicon, but let the guy have his fair share of chances. If he doesn't impress during his first season with us, then yes, we can start looking for a new leftback. But until then...

[Fillipo Simone]

Jumping the conclusions? I think I have enough experience in judging players, and I've been watching Taiwo for years - so I wouldn't call it that way. Granted - let's give him the season; let's hope Allegri will too.

[X-Offender]

Taiwo has been included three times in the Ligue 1 Team of the Year (2008, 2009, 2011). Granted, the French league is not exactly top notch, but I think that's a very good indicator of his qualities. When we signed Taiwo, I was happy because I know he's a quality player, and I have faith that he'll turn good for us.

[Rossoneri7]

Taiwo has been included three times in the Ligue 1 Team of the Year (2008, 2009, 2011). Granted, the French league is not exactly top notch, but I think that's a very good indicator of his qualities. When we signed Taiwo, I was happy because I know he's a quality player, and I have faith that he'll turn good for us.

Oh we are not doubting his quality ... I for one am glade we got him .. It is his defensive attributes that he has to work on.

[Jack Bauer]

(IMG:http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8649/d3ebfe7b2fcd.jpg)

[Danny]

Oh we are not doubting his quality ... I for one am glade we got him .. It is his defensive attributes that he has to work on.

Problem with full backs is it's a total rarity to find one who excels in both attack and defence. Most often they excel in only one.

It's the absolute best in the world who are great at both.

[han2503]

(IMG:http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8649/d3ebfe7b2fcd.jpg)

What a loss Abate will be tonight!! Their left side is where we could have hit them hard with Abate's runs, and instead we have Bonera...

[il_diavolo_mtl]

What a loss Abate will be tonight!! Their left side is where we could have hit them hard with Abate's runs, and instead we have Bonera...

Reading from left to right, i saw Grosso and Pepe and got exited as well...only to find out we're countering with Nocerino and bonnera... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I hate how we have adopted Inter's old tactics of defending behind Ibra but i guess it's not like we have a pacey, mobile squad...

[kurtsimonw]

Krasic vs Zambrotta. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Oh dear.

[William405]

Krasic vs Zambrotta. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Oh dear.

Krasic sucks...

Al Jazeera just put an emotional Pirlo short vid ;(

[han2503]

Krasic vs Zambrotta. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Oh dear.

I'd rather have Zambro on him then anyone else tbh.

Zambro might have lost his legs, but defensively, he's still our best FB and the one that I trust blindly out of all of them

[Jack Bauer]

Chiellini might start as LB and Bonucci will partner Barzagli.

[d'Arc.LP]

Juventus (4-2-3-1) – Antonio Conte
Gianluigi Buffon; Stephan Lichtsteiner, Andrea Barzagli, Leonardo Bonucci, Giorgio Chiellini; Andrea Pirlo, Claudio Marchisio; Miloš Krasić, Arturo Vidal, Simone Pepe; Mirko Vučinić.
Bench: M. Storari, F. Grosso, E. Giaccherini, M. Pazienza, A. Del Piero, A. Matri, E. Elia.

AC Milan (4-3-1-2) – Massimiliano Allegri
Christian Abbiati; Daniele Bonera, Alessandro Nesta, Thiago Silva, Gianluca Zambrotta; Antonio Nocerino, Mark Van Bommel, Clarence Seedorf; Kevin-Prince Boateng, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Antonio Cassano.
Bench: M Amelia, L. Antonini, M. De Sciglio, A. Aquilani, U. Emanuelson, F. Inzaghi, M. Ambrosini.

[Darunia]

Like our lineup

This post has been edited by Darunia: Oct 2 2011, 07:17 PM

[han2503]

I wonder why Conte moved Chiellini to LB and left the two meatballs in the center to handle Zlatan... Doesn't really make any sense... And it's not like we have Ronaldo or Messi playing on our right side (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Anyways, hope it works in our favour. We simply have to win this!!

[Jack Bauer]

Taiwo and El Sha not even on the bench...

[X-Offender]

No Yepes and Taiwo on the bench.

Anyway, I hope this turns out to be a decent match, and we witness some good football.

FORZA MILAN!!!

[KillerMax]

Anyways, hope it works in our favour. We simply have to win this!!

What if we win it complicatedly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[d'Arc.LP]

Aquilani is warming up with the team Boateng seems to have back pain ...

UPDATE:

Boateng is back with the team !

This post has been edited by d'Arc.LP: Oct 2 2011, 07:28 PM

[han2503]

What if we win it complicatedly (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Well that matter would be completely out of my hands (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Aquilani is warming up with the team Boateng seems to have back pain ...

UPDATE:

Boateng is back with the team !

Well at least we know Aqui is first choice for the sub instead of Urby

[vahid]

Any one noticed that if we win, we will be the first to beat them in Stadio Juve?

[Boban10]

Nervous, but looking forward to it!!!


FORZA MILAN!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif)

[han2503]

Can't believe we're still messing around with the short corners (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[drucurl]

Cassano looking up for it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

[arivanjj]

nesta making some awful passes from defense.

[han2503]

Oh! So lucky there not to conceed. off the bar!

We're not playing well at all atm. Juve are overunning us, Seedorf is a no-show, same goes for Boateng

[il_diavolo_mtl]

Vucinic is killing us :S

[il_diavolo_mtl]

this is painful, we have NO pace ANYWHERE!!! Even when we try to press, it doesn't even show...

[han2503]

Can't believe we're letting Pirlo do whatever he pleases. We should be one of the teams able to stop him and we can't get near him! Ridiculous!!

[X-Offender]

What the hell is this? We can't seem to be making more than two consecutive passes. Our game is slow and we don't press the opponent. It's Barça all over again.

[il_diavolo_mtl]

i have always defended Allegri, but this is ridiculous...

[han2503]

Seedorf and Boateng need to switch places. They're obviously double teaming Seedorf as he's our only threat from the midfield

[il_diavolo_mtl]

Seedorf gave up on defending, he moves up and the tactical setup remains the same... leaving Krasic the most space he will ever see. Seedorf is beyond flop of the match.

[han2503]

Horrible first half. Allegri needs to change something quick or we're losing this for sure!!

Seedorf is just not there today, and Boateng is clearly struggling to get back into any sort of rythm.

Nesta is making mistakes playing out the ball because Juve are pressing a lot, while our players seem to have weights attached to their feet.

I know they're tired because they played in midweek while Juve didn't but this is aweul and just not acceptable

[il_diavolo_mtl]

Seedorf and Boateng need to switch places. They're obviously double teaming Seedorf as he's our only threat from the midfield

don't give him too much credit he walks upfield and the RM follows, not fearing a run by zambrotta.

[Fillipo Simone]

Seedorf is beyond flop of the match. Naaah... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Allegri is beyond flop. 45 minutes without even a shot on goal is disgraceful. I'm really ashamed of our display - only luck saved us so far. Allegri's mistakes...I don't even have the strength to talk about them; it's every game the same story.

[il_diavolo_mtl]

Antonini for Bonnera
and
Aquilani for Seedorf

[Fillipo Simone]

Horrible first half. Allegri needs to change something quick or we're losing this for sure!!

Seedorf is just not there today, and Boateng is clearly struggling to get back into any sort of rythm.

Nesta is making mistakes playing out the ball because Juve are pressing a lot, while our players seem to have weights attached to their feet.

I know they're tired because they played in midweek while Juve didn't but this is aweul and just not acceptable

1) Make a change after the first 45 minutes: happens almost every time
2) Why is Seedorf tired? Why is Ibra tired? We don't need guessing...
3) The trequartista position is a riddle Allegri won't solve in the next 10 years
4) Looking at Pirlo, his passing and distribution - I ask my self over and over again - why did we let him go???

[Boban10]

AC Milan (4-3-1-2) –[/b] Massimiliano Allegri
Christian Abbiati; Daniele Bonera, Alessandro Nesta, Thiago Silva, Gianluca Zambrotta; Antonio Nocerino, Mark Van Bommel, Clarence Seedorf; Kevin-Prince Boateng, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Antonio Cassano.
Bench: M Amelia, L. Antonini, M. De Sciglio, A. Aquilani, U. Emanuelson, F. Inzaghi, M. Ambrosini.

Juve starting to dominate there, thank god whistle went. Why no El Sha in squad, he gives us options!

Their midfield has taken control and with the way we are passing we wont get it back. Allegri just seems so one dimensional/pig headed/clueless???? I dont know, but he cant seem to plan for different opposition, or have a plan B/plan C. MVB was on his own defending, the wide two mids were not involved at all unless giving away possession. Allegri needs to do something at half time.

I would be tempted to go 4-4-2, switch nocerino in beside MVB, have Prince wide right, possibly sub seedorf with Urby for width, Ibra/Cassano will drop back into space to collect ball (they do this regardless of if we are playing a treq role). Its either something like that or assign boateng to kick pirlo out of the game erm cough i mean man mark pirlo out of the game (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[il_diavolo_mtl]

Seedorf is beyond flop of the match. Naaah... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Allegri is beyond flop. 45 minutes without even a shot on goal is disgraceful. I'm really ashamed of our display - only luck saved us so far. Allegri's mistakes...I don't even have the strength to talk about them; it's every game the same story.

While i agree, the players are not doing anything... the only passes we have managed to complete are between the back 4. Leadership also plays a part, we might have the laziest captain in Serie A. I am willing to admit allegri has no creation or hallelujah-esque solution to the apathy on the field, but i mean surely we, AC milan, can pretend to be more exited to play...

This post has been edited by il_diavolo_mtl: Oct 2 2011, 08:39 PM

[han2503]

Antonini for Bonnera
and
Aquilani for Seedorf

I'm a it worried about pushing Aqui on the left in this one. If he does he needs to cover the spaces, even while playing aweful Seedorf always does that.

I don't get why we don't have VB on Pirlo's @ss or at least Boateng since he's playing in the "Pirlo Zone" it's ridiculous how he's being left to run the show. It's as if we don't know what he can do.

Why are we not pressing the danger men, we all know who they arre yet the central mids and Vucinic are being left to pass it freely through huge gape in the center, We should be exploiting Juve's defensive weakness in the center, not letting their offensive strength get to us by giving them space in that area

[il_diavolo_mtl]

Juve starting to dominate there, thank god whistle went. Why no El Sha in squad, he gives us options!

Their midfield has taken control and with the way we are passing we wont get it back. Allegri just seems so one dimensional/pig headed/clueless???? I dont know, but he cant seem to plan for different opposition, or have a plan B/plan C. MVB was on his own defending, the wide two mids were not involved at all unless giving away possession. Allegri needs to do something at half time.

I would be tempted to go 4-4-2, switch nocerino in beside MVB, have Prince wide right, possibly sub seedorf with Urby for width, Ibra/Cassano will drop back into space to collect ball (they do this regardless of if we are playing a treq role). Its either something like that or assign boateng to kick pirlo out of the game erm cough i mean man mark pirlo out of the game (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

+1
I like the idea of going 4-4-2, but i do think that cassano would have to drop back a little to help MVB2 and Nocerino with possession so it would look more like a 4-4-1-1 which at this point, i'm willing to try.

[Dracoris]

Has Seedorf even reached a full sprint once?

[Fillipo Simone]

While i agree, the players are not doing anything... the only passes we have managed to complete are between the back 4. Leadership also plays a part, we might have the laziest captain in Serie A. I am willing to admit allegri has no creation or hallelujah-esque solution to the apathy on the field, but i mean surely we, AC milan, can pretend to be more exited to play...

Exited to play? Laziest captain? Well, Seedorf is 35 and Allegri is playing him like he's 25. He can't fire up the midfield that much - Nocerino could do it, but he's a total DM with no initiative or dynamic. Ibra and Cassano are cut off - all because Allegri won't understand that by positioning Seedorf on the AM and Aquilani or Boateng on the LM we get the best out of everyone: Seedorf is more static, yet has more space to pass around and can go around more freely, while Boatengs dynamic gives us an alternative on the flank. But no...he won't do it. He'll just drop in Aquilani for Boateng and we'll see the same story.

[han2503]

1) Make a change after the first 45 minutes: happens almost every time
2) Why is Seedorf tired? Why is Ibra tired? We don't need guessing...
3) The trequartista position is a riddle Allegri won't solve in the next 10 years
4) Looking at Pirlo, his passing and distribution - I ask my self over and over again - why did we let him go???

1. Agreed
2. Agreed
3. Agreed
4. Because Allegri is an idiot who doesn't know how to include creative players into his system unless they're Seedorf

[il_diavolo_mtl]

I'm a it worried about pushing Aqui on the left in this one. If he does he needs to cover the spaces, even while playing aweful Seedorf always does that.

I don't get why we don't have VB on Pirlo's @ss or at least Boateng since he's playing in the "Pirlo Zone" it's ridiculous how he's being left to run the show. It's as if we don't know what he can do.

Why are we not pressing the danger men, we all know who they arre yet the central mids and Vucinic are being left to pass it freely through huge gape in the center, We should be exploiting Juve's defensive weakness in the center, not letting their offensive strength get to us by giving them space in that area

We can usually tell within a hlaf is Seedorf is going to care or not about said game. Today is a no, so i wouldn't even mind swapping him with De Sciglio... The old guard have been complacent for far too long (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

[Dracoris]

Juve is playing Katy Perry over the loud speakers. Its over now, they'll win.

[han2503]

Exited to play? Laziest captain? Well, Seedorf is 35 and Allegri is playing him like he's 25. He can't fire up the midfield that much - Nocerino could do it, but he's a total DM with no initiative or dynamic. Ibra and Cassano are cut off - all because Allegri won't understand that by positioning Seedorf on the AM and Aquilani or Boateng on the LM we get the best out of everyone: Seedorf is more static, yet has more space to pass around and can go around more freely, while Boatengs dynamic gives us an alternative on the flank. But no...he won't do it. He'll just drop in Aquilani for Boateng and we'll see the same story.

Agreed, this is my biggest issue.

Boateng playing behind the strikers is one of my biggest pet peaves, and this season it's not working AT ALL. He's not an AM, stop playing him there FFS!!! He doesn't support the strikers, doesn't make the incisive passes needed when playing that position and his running is fruitless!

He needs to change it up

I'd even say he needs to srop Nocerino from the right side, move Boateng in that position and give Seedorf the AM role. Aqui can play the left side

[Fillipo Simone]

We can usually tell within a hlaf is Seedorf is going to care or not about said game. Today is a no, so i wouldn't even mind swapping him with De Sciglio... The old guard have been complacent for far too long (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

Don't go to far (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[han2503]

Oh! What a save from Abbiat1!!

What are they doing???!!

[il_diavolo_mtl]

Exited to play? Laziest captain? Well, Seedorf is 35 and Allegri is playing him like he's 25. He can't fire up the midfield that much - Nocerino could do it, but he's a total DM with no initiative or dynamic. Ibra and Cassano are cut off - all because Allegri won't understand that by positioning Seedorf on the AM and Aquilani or Boateng on the LM we get the best out of everyone: Seedorf is more static, yet has more space to pass around and can go around more freely, while Boatengs dynamic gives us an alternative on the flank. But no...he won't do it. He'll just drop in Aquilani for Boateng and we'll see the same story.

I would view him as you do, Allegri's victim, had he not complained about not starting and not being offered a contract last autumn when he was competing with bonnera for worst player. I would view him as a Pippo, but he thinks highly of himself, and for him to feel he deserves top dollar, he must back the club's faith.

[il_diavolo_mtl]

Don't go to far (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

i get carried away sometimes... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

[han2503]

Oh what a save from Gigi there

[il_diavolo_mtl]

Boatang looks injured, was he rushed in or completely cleared?

[Boban10]

Short corners are pissing me off!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry