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post Sep 22 2011, 01:43 AM
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(IMG:http://www.mobilook.com/Images/FootballTeamLogos/ACMilan1-176x220.gif) vs. (IMG:http://www.footyfanzone.com/FootyFanZone/images/logos/ITA/ACCesenaLogo.gif)

Form Guide: Milan (D L D - -) Cesena (L L L - -)

Last season: Milan 2-0 Cesena

Side notes: Last season Milan found it hard to beat Cesena. The away game ended with a shock defeat, while at San Siro Milan won 2-0, but not in a comfortable way. Milan's form is worrying - last time Milan had 2 points after 3 Serie A games was in 1997/1998 with Fabio Capello. Milan finished 10th that season.
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post Sep 22 2011, 03:18 AM
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So with our 12 injuries, its going to be interesting how we are going to react to this game.


My line up:

-Abate-Bonera-Silva-Taiwo

-Nocerino-Van B-Emanuelson

---------Aquilani----------

---El Sha-------Cassano



I'd give seedorf and nesta a rest.

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post Sep 22 2011, 05:46 AM
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My lineup:

Abate---Yepes---Silva-----Zambrotta
----MvB----Aquilani---Nocerino
------------Pharaohino-----------
----------------------------Cassano
------------Pippo/Kinglsey----------


I don't know if Zambrotta is up to it...but I hope so. Nocerino's cover for Abate is laughable. I need someone competent on the right side.

I'd like Stephan to be a little deeper than Cassano. He seems quicker at running with the ball and should be able to transition it faster to offence.

When we push up naturally Aquilani will come up to rush the box, while Nocerino and MvB move more centrally to provide cover.


I don't really mind us playing with a youth striker. If our goals come, they will come from the mid-field.

Pippo, Seedorf , Emmanuelson on the bench to make major offensive changes.

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post Sep 22 2011, 06:42 AM
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Pippo

Aquilani- El Sharaawy

Emanuelson - MVB - Nocerino

Taiwo - Yepes - Silva - Abate

Amelia

Just for shits and giggles (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Sep 22 2011, 06:46 AM) *
My lineup:

Abate---Yepes---Silva-----Zambrotta
----MvB----Aquilani---Nocerino
------------Pharaohino-----------
----------------------------Cassano
------------Pippo/Kinglsey----------


Kingsley is injured, will be out for 3-4 weeks.

Nesta, Van Bommel and Seedorf NEED a rest, otherwise they will die in the pitch. So my line up is this :

Abbiati
Abate - Silva - Yepes - Taiwo
Aquilani - Nocerino - Emanuelson
El Shaarawy
Pippo - Cassano


Seedorf and Ganz to enter in second.
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post Sep 22 2011, 09:11 AM
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i don't think Allegri will start Pippo, I think we have a good chance in seeing the same line-up minus Pato plus the Pharaoh.
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post Sep 22 2011, 12:02 PM
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No matter the line-up, this is a must win by any means. We have Juve away after this and we can't afford lose any more points.
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post Sep 22 2011, 02:19 PM
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Nesta and Seedorf need a rest, especially since we have a CL game and Juve away coming up.

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post Sep 22 2011, 04:06 PM
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Hopefully this is our last game in full emergency. We should win this at all cost, hoping for Juventus to make a false step in Catania and thus catch them next week in the direct clash. Hopefully we'll have Ibrahimovic and Boateng available by then.
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QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Sep 22 2011, 07:42 AM) *


Pippo

Aquilani- El Sharaawy

Emanuelson - MVB - Nocerino

Taiwo - Yepes - Silva - Abate

Amelia

Just for shits and giggles (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Abbiati makes a mistake and you want to replace him? That would quite boost his confidence. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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I don't think Allegri will be resting anyone, we simply have to win this. Maybe Nesta could be left to sit since we'll mostly be the ones with the ball the entire match, but Seedorf will need to be in there, they'll be tough to break down, so Seedorf, Cassano and Aquilani will need to do better then they have been doing.

Seedorf showed signs of finally getting off the mark yesterday, we can't rest him in this one. I'd rather rest him in the CL game, we'll most likely win that without him, especially if Prince and Zlatan are back. Personally I'd switch Seedorf and Aquilani's positions. Seedorf is comfortable in either area of the pitch, while Aquilani clearly isn't.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 22 2011, 05:51 PM) *
Personally I'd switch Seedorf and Aquilani's positions. Seedorf is comfortable in either area of the pitch, while Aquilani clearly isn't.


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Will Zlatan be finally back or what?!
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Generally this game should be a given for 3 points
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QUOTE (Zed.D @ Sep 22 2011, 09:17 PM) *
Will Zlatan be finally back or what?!


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is there anyone whos gonna return for this game then from injury ? whats the latest with robinho ?
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 22 2011, 11:08 AM) *
Abbiati makes a mistake and you want to replace him? That would quite boost his confidence. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I agree it would be a risk for a 21yo but abbiati is 31 and understands taking a backseat. I also feel he has been off his game for the past few games.
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The probable line-ups according to La Gazzetta dello Sport:

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Mediaset has Mexes on the bench. And please play Taiwo!
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post Sep 23 2011, 11:58 AM
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In theory this should be our first 3 points of the season, but I'm not taking it for granted. Confidence will not be high in the camp after the start we've had.

Everyone laughs at Inter yet we're barely doing any better than them.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 23 2011, 12:58 PM) *
In theory this should be our first 3 points of the season, but I'm not taking it for granted. Confidence will not be high in the camp after the start we've had.

Everyone laughs at Inter yet we're barely doing any better than them.


Inter don't have 11 players injured. Our poor form is only due to injuries, nothing else.
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post Sep 23 2011, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 23 2011, 12:27 PM) *
Inter don't have 11 players injured. Our poor form is only due to injuries, nothing else.


We miss 2 big players - Ibra and Robinho. Beyond that I don't really see how you can blame all this on injuries. Especially given Ibra played in the Lazio draw iirc.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 23 2011, 08:38 PM) *
We miss 2 big players - Ibra and Robinho. Beyond that I don't really see how you can blame all this on injuries. Especially given Ibra played in the Lazio draw iirc.


We did claw back from 2 - 0 to 2 - 2 when he was on the pitch. We didn't against Napoli.
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QUOTE (Danny @ Sep 23 2011, 02:38 PM) *
We miss 2 big players - Ibra and Robinho. Beyond that I don't really see how you can blame all this on injuries. Especially given Ibra played in the Lazio draw iirc.


And Boateng? It's not about who we miss, it's about numbers. The fact that so many players are injured makes Allegri play the same line-up over and over. That would be alright, but guys like Nesta, Van Bommel and Seedorf need to be rested every now and then given their age. And our attack right now consists of only Cassano, Inzaghi and El Shaarawy. If Ibra doesn't make it in time, we'll have only Cassano available for the Champions League. Not cool.

Against Lazio, bar the first 25 minutes, we had a great game. We thrashed them and should have won, but luck wasn't on our side.
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Allegri said that from our injured players only Ibra and Ambro migt be ready for Pilsen in midweek. Boteng is out.
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Pellegatti from Mediaset's Studio Sport announced this line-up for tomorrow:

Abbiati
Abate - T. Silva - Yepes - Taiwo
Nocerino - Van Bommel - Emanuelson
Seedorf
Cassano - El Shaarawy
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 23 2011, 06:18 PM) *
Pellegatti from Mediaset's Studio Sport announced this line-up for tomorrow:

Abbiati
Abate - T. Silva - Yepes - Taiwo
Nocerino - Van Bommel - Emanuelson
Seedorf
Cassano - El Shaarawy

You really think he'd drop Aqui for Urby? Aqui might not have had the best of games against Udine, but Urby really won't offer us anything, especially in these types of games where we'll most likely be camping in their half for the entire game, Aqui's incisive passing will help better.

Anyways, Pellegati does tend to speak out his @ss at times...
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No way - I don't expect either Urby nor Taiwo to start.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Sep 23 2011, 06:41 PM) *
No way - I don't expect either Urby nor Taiwo to start.

I'm ok with Zambro starting and Aqui on the left. I think Zambro will provide Aqui with more stability and peace of mind. And Aqui is clearly not comfortable playing in the hole, so Seedorf should play there
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Pellegatti spends his entire day at Milanello prior to every game. I think he knows stuff much better than we do. But yeah, he does tend to speak crap most of the time.
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Abbiati, Abate, Thiago Silva, Yepes, Taiwo, Nocerino, Van Bommel, Seedorf, Emanuelson, Cassano, El Shaarawy.

Ravaglia; Comotto, Von Bergen, Rodriguez, Marco Rossi; Martinez, Parolo, Guana; Martinho, Candreva, Mutu.

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QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Sep 24 2011, 06:55 PM) *
Abbiati, Abate, Thiago Silva, Yepes, Taiwo, Nocerino, Van Bommel, Seedorf, Emanuelson, Cassano, El Shaarawy.

Ravaglia; Comotto, Von Bergen, Rodriguez, Marco Rossi; Martinez, Parolo, Guana; Martinho, Candreva, Mutu.

Urby in the hole? Bleh...

This won't look good, he's such a one dimensional player and won't provide us with any incisive passing in tight spaces
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Well fingers crossed anyways, we need a win!

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Oh nearly an own goal for Cesena
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seedorf scores from a cross... good start for us
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Lol, I don't think he meant to do that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Great goal!
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Abbiati has butter fingers lately.
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We're shaky at the back
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Like how Taiwo always keeps moving the ball forward instead of sideways
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how are you watching

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These short corners are really p!ssing me off!
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 24 2011, 03:03 PM) *
These short corners are really p!ssing me off!


I was just about to post the same thing.
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I m on www.atdhe.tv - theres a few click on em'

http://toriceli.ucoz.com/ch4.html

http://www.nkora.net/

this site has it too

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http://www.sportlemon.tv/c-1.html
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Taiwo needs to do a better job of marking his man in the box...
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QUOTE (Suhail 3 @ Sep 24 2011, 08:01 PM) *
how are you watching

espn are showing napoli :S :S :S provide a link bro ?

bet365 shows serie A... no point payinf addional 7 quid for espn
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lol Yepes with a decent chance
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Nice pass by Urby. A little off on the first touch by El Sha.
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Great run and ball by Abate. Cassano should have poked that one home.
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Nice pass by Urby. A little off on the first touch by El Sha.

Mostly a bit too strong from Urby then El Shaa's touch. He couldn't reach it properly
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Sep 24 2011, 03:26 PM) *
Mostly a bit too strong from Urby then El Shaa's touch. He couldn't reach it properly


It looked like a combination of both to me. It looked like he could have slowed it a bit more. Either way it was a good looking move with potential.
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taiwos a moron i swear... should be sent off
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Taiwo has been soooo poor. I remember him a much more dynamic player at Marseilles. His defending is zero.
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Red card for that? Jesus it wasn't that bad.
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I think he needs to go to the Tassotti school of positioning and tackling.
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I think he's been ok in the attacking department, makes smart overlapping runs, always passes the ball forward instead of the tedious sideways pass, etc

His defending horrible imo, he doesn't cover his man properly, Zambro and Tasotti need to teach him a thing or 2. One thing is for certain though, he can't start the Juve game, he's too raw still for that kind of game. He should start in the CL again, let Zambro play the Juve tie
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Looks like Zambrotta coming on.. Final instructions from Tassoti

Aquilani warming up also. Urby been ok in that pos, but aquilani will bring the front two in more.
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Oh, great chance for El Shaa!! Yepes with a yellow
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we need the second goal to be safe taiwo-zambrotta sub
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Aqui for El Shaarawy
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why sub sharrawy he cant play UCL.. and that should be PK
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FFS!1 That was a definate penalty on Cassano!!
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That's a very good tackle.
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Aqui for El Shaarawy



Allegri confuses me!!!! Hopefully he confuses the opposition coaches as well. I would have swapped Urby for Aqui.
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We're in a great position in attack and what do they do? Pass it all the way back to defence!!! Cassano has been working his @ss of trying to creat space and no one makes the quick pass to him
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wtf... cassano is squatting on the pitch. bring in pippo
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Pippo for Cassano
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cassano of for pippo.. seedorf still playing he will be exhausted at this rate...
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Great effort from Cassano today, really worked hard.
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I think he needs to go to the Tassotti school of positioning and tackling.

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Not great but a win is a win.
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FT

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finally 3 points... not a good performance but 3 points and important ones as well... next up is juve hopefully will have some players back... Forza Milan !
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Ibra and Ambro will most likely be back for the CL game as Allegri said. So that's a huge coupe to be getting Ibra back in. Cassano will run himself into the ground at this point, and he has to play as an lone striker in the next game, will be a huge ask for him

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Thank god! This win is like a breath of fresh air. Splendid performance from Seedorf, never thought he'd have fuel left after three consecutive games. I also liked Nocerino and Cassano a lot. Taiwo was very poor. I hope it was only due to match fitness, otherwise our left flank will be suffering a lot again this season.

The refereeing was horrible. There was a huge penalty for Cassano no conceded, as well as two inexistent offsides whistled with Cassano in front of the goalie.

Anyway, three important points. Hopefully against Juventus we'll have both Ibra and Boateng back.
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So we got a much needed win, but in a less than stellar performance.

Cassano was by far our hardest worker out there (especially given that he isn't the fittest); unlucky not to get a goal.

Like X-Off said, many unjust calls on him (so frustrating for me farless him; at least he didn't get himself in trouble)
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Sep 24 2011, 09:04 PM) *
Thank god! This win is like a breath of fresh air. Splendid performance from Seedorf, never thought he'd have fuel left after three consecutive games. I also liked Nocerino and Cassano a lot. Taiwo was very poor. I hope it was only due to match fitness, otherwise our left flank will be suffering a lot again this season.

The refereeing was horrible. There was a huge penalty for Cassano no conceded, as well as two inexistent offsides whistled with Cassano in front of the goalie.

Anyway, three important points. Hopefully against Juventus we'll have both Ibra and Boateng back.

Didn't Allegri say that he (Boateng) wouldn't be ready? Or was that just for the CL game?

Any news on Robinho?
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Didn't Allegri say that he (Boateng) wouldn't be ready? Or was that just for the CL game?

Any news on Robinho?


No, he said Robinho wouldn't be ready till after the break. Boateng should be back for Juventus, but you never know with our medical staff. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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No, he said Robinho wouldn't be ready till after the break. Boateng should be back for Juventus, but you never know with our medical staff. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

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When does the break come up? I'm too lazy to look


After the Juventus game.
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