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 Copp Italia - Semi Final 1st leg - Milan - Palermo, Date: 20/04/11 Time: 20:45 CET |
 Apr 16 2011, 11:16 PM
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First leg of the semi final, I really want to see us get through, try and take the double this season. We need to close this one out in the San Siro, because I can't see us winning away to the cursed Palermo ground, that's a sure loss for us
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Apr 16 2011, 11:19 PM
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Prima Squadra  Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
Is Zlatan's suspension a domestic ban or league ban, can he play in this?
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Apr 16 2011, 11:23 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Apr 17 2011, 12:19 AM)  Is Zlatan's suspension a domestic ban or league ban, can he play in this? Yes, he can. |
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Apr 17 2011, 07:10 AM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
Agreed with Han's assessment. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) We need to wrap this up in the first leg, and yes, this one is a must win (along with the Scudetto) now that we have got this far in the semis, as well as dropping out of the CL early. Palermo can be a slippery customer, but I believe we'll get the best of them.
2-0 or 3-0 please, and emphasis on the "0". The defense and particularly the CBs have to be extra alert! |
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Apr 17 2011, 11:02 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
Any word on Nesta?
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Apr 17 2011, 12:22 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
I'm 100% sure Allegri will keep Nesta out for this one and get Yepes in.
Also, nobody is mentioning Abbiati? What happened to him? If Pirlo is ready, I'd rest Seedorf and give Andrea the start as captain, while swapping Gattuso with Flamini as well. |
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Apr 17 2011, 12:29 PM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 6,098 Joined: 24-February 10 From: Lebanon Member No.: 7,239 |
Abbiati injured his knee,I'm not sure how long will he stay out.Amelia should be fine.I'd play like this:
Amelia Abate--Sokratis/Yepes--Thiago--Zambro Pirlo--Bommel--Urby Boateng Ibra--Robinho/Cassano I just hope Allegri will stick with one defensive midfielder.I'm pretty sure Urby can defend specially since he played in a fullback position with Ajax.Pirlo/Boateng combo or even Seedorf/Boateng will be good to see as usual.I just hope Allegri isn't thinking about putting Pirlo in a defensive midfield position,specially since we have lots of dms.This maybe a game where Strasser can play too.But,since we're out of the CL,we better put our best formations in the serie A and Coppa italia.So,preferably Van Bommel should play. Also,Ibra has to play these matches,because of his bans.The only question,is Robinho or Cassano.Pretty hard pick...both would do well,I suppose though. This post has been edited by William405: Apr 17 2011, 12:35 PM |
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Apr 17 2011, 12:56 PM
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CrAzY EyeS Group: Helpers Posts: 5,334 Joined: 25-February 08 From: Trinidad Member No.: 3,723 |
I'd opt to play Cassano with Ibra and bring on Robinho later on in the game.
With regards to Pirlo being played 'as a DM' I can hardly recall such a situation, but rather in his usual deep lying player maker role. That being said I would prefer to see him in a more advanced position along side the like of VB. |
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Apr 17 2011, 01:01 PM
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CrAzY EyeS Group: Helpers Posts: 5,334 Joined: 25-February 08 From: Trinidad Member No.: 3,723 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Apr 17 2011, 07:22 AM) Also, nobody is mentioning Abbiati? What happened to him? Football-Italia seems to think he should be good enough to make the squad for Wed's game. While I wouldn't put my head on a brick for a FI report, I wouldn't dismiss the idea, as his injury didn't look that serious to begin with. I am hardly worried about Abiati at this point as I think he will be back before becoming necessary. |
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Apr 17 2011, 09:52 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
Amelia
Abate - T. Silva - Yepes - Antonini Flamini - Pirlo - Emanuelson Boateng Cassano - Ibrahimovic |
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Apr 17 2011, 10:00 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 3,799 Joined: 17-February 09 From: Montreal Member No.: 6,245 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 17 2011, 04:52 PM) Amelia Abate - T. Silva - Yepes - Antonini Flamini - Pirlo - Emanuelson Boateng Cassano - Ibrahimovic +1 Brilliant formation, though, in typical conservative manor, I would rather see Papa/Leggro start instead of Thiago Silva. I would hate if we go down the strech without Nesta & Thiago. Look what became of Inter without their CBs... |
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Apr 17 2011, 10:01 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 17 2011, 08:52 PM) Amelia Abate - T. Silva - Yepes - Antonini Flamini - Pirlo - Emanuelson Boateng Cassano - Ibrahimovic Agreed, the only thing I don't agree with is playing Pirlo there. Pirlo has barely played the position this season, he was amazing when he was fit playing in the position Seedorf is currently occupying, and that is where he should be playing, he becomes a liability in the DM position these days, especially now when he's just come back from a long lay off. I'd go with a Flamini, VB, Pirlo/Seedorf midfield. And I'm hoping really hard for Allegri to go with it, because I have a feeling that he has it in his head where it's an either/or thing with Pirlo and VB, that only one can play who occupies the position in front of the defense and imo that is just BS, we need both in that midfield for this final run in Aslo, I think I'd give Urby the chance at LB instead of Antonini, who has gone downhill this season |
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Apr 19 2011, 07:23 PM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 6,098 Joined: 24-February 10 From: Lebanon Member No.: 7,239 |
A decimated Milan face Palermo for the Coppa Italia semi-final on Wednesday, missing the likes of Alessandro Nesta, Alexandre Pato and Mark Van Bommel. The Rossoneri claim they are taking this trophy very seriously indeed, but injuries are causing a headache for Coach Massimiliano Allegri. Those not called up for tomorrow’s match are Gianluca Zambrotta, Mario Yepes, Van Bommel, Christian Abbiati, Massimo Ambrosini, Daniele Bonera, Pippo Inzaghi, Marek Jankulovski, Nesta and Pato. The absence of Yepes is a particular blow, as he has been the replacement during Nesta’s injury. It therefore seems as if Sokratis Papastathopoulos or Nicola Legrottaglie will take centre-back roles. Zlatan Ibrahimovic is available, though, as his three-match ban only applies to Serie A. He sat out the first of those three games in the 3-0 win over Sampdoria. Milan squad: Amelia, Roma, Piscitelli, Abate, Antonini, Legrottaglie, Oddo, Papastathopoulos, Thiago Silva, Boateng, Emanuelson, Flamini, Gattuso, Merkel, Pirlo, Seedorf, Strasser, Beretta, Cassano, Ibrahimovic, Robinho We shall see sokratis!awesome.Maybe strasser as van bommel replacement. |
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Apr 19 2011, 08:23 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
I miss Broochi (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Apr 19 2011, 08:25 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
Hahah. Šimić, Brocchi, Roque Junior, Tomasson,...those and a few other who would pop out in such occasions and usual play a good game.
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Apr 19 2011, 08:40 PM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
You forgot Pancaro (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Apr 19 2011, 08:52 PM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 7,004 Joined: 5-August 09 From: CTU Member No.: 6,705 |
Amelia
Oddo - Silva - Papa - Antonini Urbi- Flamini - Pirlo Merkel Zlatan - Cassano |
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Apr 19 2011, 09:47 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Apr 19 2011, 07:52 PM) Amelia Oddo - Silva - Papa - Antonini Urbi- Flamini - Pirlo Merkel Zlatan - Cassano We'll be feilding a full strength side, so we won't be seeing Merkel, Boateng will play behind the strikers, Abate will play at RB, while Rino will most likely play instead of Urby. Pirlo I think will slip back into his deep role with Rino and Flamini either side of him. My only question mark in terms of who Allegri will choose is between Cassano and Robs |
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Apr 19 2011, 09:52 PM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 7,004 Joined: 5-August 09 From: CTU Member No.: 6,705 |
We are resting MVB, Yepes and Zambro who are not in the squad so it's not a full strength side already. Further changes are not out of question.
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Apr 19 2011, 10:27 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 9,420 Joined: 14-August 09 Member No.: 6,730 |
Hope we field a reserve side for this meagre competition. Nice enough to win but not at the expense of losing players to needless injury for the Scudetto run in.
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Apr 19 2011, 10:32 PM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 7,004 Joined: 5-August 09 From: CTU Member No.: 6,705 |
Inter beat Roma 1:0 at Olimpico. Would be great to trash merda in the final and leave them trophyless.
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Apr 20 2011, 06:14 AM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Apr 20 2011, 12:32 AM) Inter beat Roma 1:0 at Olimpico. Would be great to trash merda in the final and leave them trophyless. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) |
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Apr 20 2011, 08:52 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Apr 19 2011, 09:52 PM) We are resting MVB, Yepes and Zambro who are not in the squad so it's not a full strength side already. Further changes are not out of question. I think those players were held back for a reason other then being rested, they might have some fitness problems and were not ready to play. It's not like Yepes is a crucial figure for us, if that were the case it would have made more sense to rest Thiago. Other then those 3, we'll see the best team out there, I'm sure of it. Seedorf might be on the bench but we have Pirlo coming back so... As for fielding the reserves, and not giving our all for it. This season we have a real chance to not only win a major piece of silverware, but to also win the Coppa. I want to see us winning both. Milan have been in the shadows for far too long. I want us to accomplish something of note this season. After the long drought, the Serie A and the Coppa would be great achievments for us. Also, this attitude is the reason why the domestic cup in Italy has such a bad rep. Teams not giving a sh!t about it. In England teams give there all in their domestic cups, that's why they are considered of more value at the end of the day, because you don't have teams fielding their reserves for it |
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Apr 20 2011, 09:06 AM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 20 2011, 12:52 PM) Also, this attitude is the reason why the domestic cup in Italy has such a bad rep. Teams not giving a sh!t about it. In England teams give there all in their domestic cups, that's why they are considered of more value at the end of the day, because you don't have teams fielding their reserves for it True. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I want us to go for both this year, starting with this very match against Palermo. If we get a good results in this we will have one foot in the final. And since our blue-and-black neighbors are already in the final, it would be sweet if we can have one more match against inter this season. |
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Apr 20 2011, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Apr 20 2011, 08:06 AM) True. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I want us to go for both this year, starting with this very match against Palermo. If we get a good results in this we will have one foot in the final. And since our blue-and-black neighbors are already in the final, it would be sweet if we can have one more match against inter this season. And beat the cr@p out of them again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Apr 20 2011, 09:53 AM
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Berretti Group: Helpers Posts: 13,937 Joined: 26-February 08 From: Always Around Member No.: 3,736 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 20 2011, 01:44 PM) And beat the cr@p out of them again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Yeah, that too! |
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Apr 20 2011, 12:27 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 9,420 Joined: 14-August 09 Member No.: 6,730 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 20 2011, 08:52 AM) Also, this attitude is the reason why the domestic cup in Italy has such a bad rep. Teams not giving a sh!t about it. In England teams give there all in their domestic cups, that's why they are considered of more value at the end of the day, because you don't have teams fielding their reserves for it You obviously don't follow English football that closely. |
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Apr 20 2011, 12:42 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (Danny @ Apr 20 2011, 11:27 AM) You obviously don't follow English football that closely. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) When have you ever seen any of the teams playin their reserves in an FA Cup semi final? I know I haven't ever seen it happening unless it was a necessary change |
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Apr 20 2011, 01:03 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 8,034 Joined: 4-May 08 From: Pakistan Member No.: 3,873 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 20 2011, 12:42 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) When have you ever seen any of the teams playin their reserves in an FA Cup semi final? I know I haven't ever seen it happening unless it was a necessary change compare coppa with carling cup not FA cup (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Apr 20 2011, 03:26 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Apr 20 2011, 01:03 PM) compare coppa with carling cup not FA cup (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Both are domestic cups. The FA Cup is obviously more important, the Coppa Italia should be treated the same since it is the only domestic cup in Italy |
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Apr 20 2011, 04:07 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 3,799 Joined: 17-February 09 From: Montreal Member No.: 6,245 |
QUOTE (Jack Bauer @ Apr 19 2011, 04:52 PM) We are resting MVB, Yepes and Zambro who are not in the squad so it's not a full strength side already. Further changes are not out of question. well their combined age is over 100... |
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Apr 20 2011, 06:16 PM
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CrAzY EyeS Group: Helpers Posts: 5,334 Joined: 25-February 08 From: Trinidad Member No.: 3,723 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 19 2011, 03:23 PM) I miss Broochi (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Quick, someone put him in the piranha tank! |
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Apr 20 2011, 06:35 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
Any word on the official line up ?
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Apr 20 2011, 07:21 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 20 2011, 07:35 PM) Any word on the official line up ? MILAN: Amelia, Oddo, Thiago Silva, Papastathopoulos, Antonini, Seedorf, Pirlo, Flamini, Boateng, Ibrahimovic, Cassano. PALERMO: Sirigu, Cassani, Goian, Bovo, Balzaretti, Migliaccio,Acquah, Nocerino, Pinilla, Pastore, Hernandez. Wow, that's quite an offensive line-up. |
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Apr 20 2011, 07:23 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 20 2011, 06:21 PM) MILAN: Amelia, Oddo, Thiago Silva, Papastathopoulos, Antonini, Seedorf, Pirlo, Flamini, Boateng, Ibrahimovic, Cassano. PALERMO: Sirigu, Cassani, Goian, Bovo, Balzaretti, Migliaccio,Acquah, Nocerino, Pinilla, Pastore, Hernandez. Wow, that's quite an offensive line-up. Was just thinking the same thing. Risky imo against Palermo |
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Apr 20 2011, 07:31 PM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 6,098 Joined: 24-February 10 From: Lebanon Member No.: 7,239 |
Any streams?I don't care about quality...cause my internet sucks.
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Apr 20 2011, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Apr 20 2011, 07:31 PM) Any streams?I don't care about quality...cause my internet sucks. http://www.sport-vids.eu/channel8.html http://watchprem.com/channel5 |
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Apr 20 2011, 07:52 PM
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Esordienti B 96 Group: Full Members Posts: 407 Joined: 28-September 06 Member No.: 2,571 |
GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Apr 20 2011, 07:58 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
1-0 Milan ... Let's lock this win in the first half, so I can go watch Xavi & friends (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)
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Apr 20 2011, 08:02 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
Grande Sokratis (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Apr 20 2011, 08:03 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 3,799 Joined: 17-February 09 From: Montreal Member No.: 6,245 |
**** i just started watching it 1-1
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Apr 20 2011, 08:03 PM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 6,098 Joined: 24-February 10 From: Lebanon Member No.: 7,239 |
I see why Allegri doesn't play sokratis.
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Apr 20 2011, 08:04 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 6-March 08 From: Canada Member No.: 3,763 |
nice defending bythe greek
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Apr 20 2011, 08:05 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
Well, he hasn't played for what, 2 months or even more? What's there to expect?
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Apr 20 2011, 08:25 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 3,799 Joined: 17-February 09 From: Montreal Member No.: 6,245 |
Awful referee so far invisible offsides agaisnt us, no calls, i got a bad feeling
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Apr 20 2011, 08:37 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
Two penalties in our favor and none of them were called ... I can see where this fixture is going (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)
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Apr 20 2011, 08:39 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
The defense looks horrible. The FBs are woeful, Oddo and Antonini should go take a nap (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Sokratis is playing as expected, when someone doesn't get any match action for months they're bound to look awkward and just plain bad out there.
Why Allegri chose to play Oddo when Abate is available I'll never understand. Also we're really struggling without VB in that midfield, the team has started to rely on him a lot in the way they play, and Pirlo just does not provide that type of cover, especially a Pirlo who has been out for months. Seedorf looks fried, he was the one who should have been rested not F%$£"& Abate!!! The 20 something Abate gets a rest and 34 year old Seedorf has to play 3 days after he played a full 90 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Genius stuff there I'd bring in Abate and Robinho for Oddo, and Seedorf, move Boateng back in midfield and let Robinho run rings around this terrible Palermo defense. Great goal from Ibra though, glad to see he hasn't lost his scoring touch completely |
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Apr 20 2011, 08:44 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 3,799 Joined: 17-February 09 From: Montreal Member No.: 6,245 |
I disagree regarding Antonini, he has pretty much been the only one who takes it out of our zone and hasn't made bad decisions with it, beatting Cassani (italian NT & palermo captain) on several occasions.
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Apr 20 2011, 08:47 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (il_diavolo_mtl @ Apr 20 2011, 08:44 PM) I disagree regarding Antonini, he has pretty much been the only one who takes it out of our zone and hasn't made bad decisions with it, beatting Cassani (italian NT & palermo captain) on several occasions. I've seen him make bad passes, his marking is questionable, I mean what was he doing when he let Pastore run past him so easily during that second shot he put in that went just wide? Both FBs are a liability, sure Antonini can run forward, but his game has regressed to just that, sprinting forward. He's taken over from Abate in that respect |
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Apr 20 2011, 08:48 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
Anyways, If we have any hope of going through we need to win this at home, today. And scoe 2 more goals at the least, because we won't be doing the business in Scicily, I'm 100% sure of that
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Apr 20 2011, 08:49 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 20 2011, 10:37 PM) Two penalties in our favor and none of them were called ... I can see where this fixture is going (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) what? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 20 2011, 10:39 PM) I'd bring in Abate and Robinho for Oddo, and Seedorf, move Boateng back in midfield and let Robinho run rings around this terrible Palermo defense. Great goal from Ibra though, glad to see he hasn't lost his scoring touch completely Robinho would certainly run rings around them, he'd even go past the keeper... but he'd still miss the open net... Lovely finish there yeah. |
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Apr 20 2011, 08:52 PM
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Giovanissimi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 1,392 Joined: 9-January 10 From: Sweden&Italy Member No.: 7,087 |
who did that great ball to Zlatan
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Apr 20 2011, 08:53 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 20 2011, 08:49 PM) what? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Robinho would certainly run rings around them, he'd even go past the keeper... but he'd still miss the open net... Lovely finish there yeah. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) At least he'd provide the others with more spaces to run into, and him and Zlatan work well together as well. The team misses something in attack, that spark and imo, Robinho could bring that. Personally I don't consider him a striker, and even though his finishing gives me a mild coronary everytime, he still bring that something extra to our attack that the others don't |
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Apr 20 2011, 09:01 PM
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Giovanissimi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 1,392 Joined: 9-January 10 From: Sweden&Italy Member No.: 7,087 |
2-1 and I got to admit, it wasn't an ugly goal either..
Thaigo Silva is doing good but it's like playing with one CB .. |
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Apr 20 2011, 09:09 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
My god, how bad is Antonini??? Also, Sokratis proving why Allegri never plays him.
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Apr 20 2011, 09:14 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
Oh, and btw, Oddo is useless. I bet his cross on Ibra's goal was a mistake.
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Apr 20 2011, 09:22 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
URBY!!!!
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Apr 20 2011, 09:26 PM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
Personally I don't care about the Coppa so I can't be bothered in the slightest if we went out. not saying that going through is not a good thing...
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Apr 20 2011, 09:29 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 20 2011, 11:26 PM) Personally I don't care about the Coppa why not? |
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Apr 20 2011, 09:38 PM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
QUOTE (dst @ Apr 20 2011, 11:59 PM) why not? It just doesn't excite me, the prospect of winning Coppa Italia. small, local cup IMO. again, I'm not saying that winning it would not be good... |
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Apr 20 2011, 09:49 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
Worst defending I'e seen from Milan this season by far, even worse then the Udine game (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
It looked like Silva was the only defender on the pitch. Sokratis was aweful, at first I thought he was just rusty, but man, he was just terrible!! Antonini and Oddo? There are no words! When Oddo plays, he wastes an average of 10 minutes of our time, either launching the ball at the keeper or out of the stadium, the funniest part was when him and Antonini kept blasting crosses from left to right to each other (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Urby was good, but he made some mistakes because he was rushing too much with his passes. There was a definate penalty on Ibra, it was stone cold, and still cannot believe that it wasn't given!! Flamini was average, same for Boateng, Pirlo looked like a player tring to find his feet at top speed. Cassano made some nice moves and passes but other then tahe he was anonymous. All in all, the defense ruined this for us. Abate should have been played from the start, and Yepes should have been played, unless it's as I thought and he had fitness problems Btw, what was Rino doing with the Yepes/Samurai hair? He looked even more ridiculous then usual |
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Apr 20 2011, 09:52 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 8,034 Joined: 4-May 08 From: Pakistan Member No.: 3,873 |
han udinese game is the one in which bonera did his magic.... worse than that OMG good i didnt watch the game
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Apr 20 2011, 09:52 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
Ah .. So we go for the Scudetto and merda go for the Copa. Good times (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Apr 20 2011, 10:02 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
I wouldn't count us out yet though. I know we shudder at the thought of the Barbera, but a full strength team would give them a run for there money. We need to shake off the Scicilian jitters
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Apr 20 2011, 10:12 PM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 6,098 Joined: 24-February 10 From: Lebanon Member No.: 7,239 |
I agree about everything han.Although,I found Boateng great as usual...didn't get to see 20 minutes of the second half though so couldn't judge then.
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Apr 20 2011, 10:14 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (William405 @ Apr 20 2011, 09:12 PM) I agree about everything han.Although,I found Boateng great as usual...didn't get to see 20 minutes of the second half though so couldn't judge then. Antonini though surprised me,he has reached a new low. He was decent in the first 30 minutes or so, then his performance went down hill, although the midfield behind him wasn't supporting him as they should have |
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Apr 20 2011, 10:18 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (han2503 @ Apr 20 2011, 10:49 PM) Worst defending I'e seen from Milan this season by far, even worse then the Udine game (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) It looked like Silva was the only defender on the pitch. Sokratis was aweful, at first I thought he was just rusty, but man, he was just terrible!! Antonini and Oddo? There are no words! When Oddo plays, he wastes an average of 10 minutes of our time, either launching the ball at the keeper or out of the stadium, the funniest part was when him and Antonini kept blasting crosses from left to right to each other (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Urby was good, but he made some mistakes because he was rushing too much with his passes. There was a definate penalty on Ibra, it was stone cold, and still cannot believe that it wasn't given!! Flamini was average, same for Boateng, Pirlo looked like a player tring to find his feet at top speed. Cassano made some nice moves and passes but other then tahe he was anonymous. All in all, the defense ruined this for us. Abate should have been played from the start, and Yepes should have been played, unless it's as I thought and he had fitness problems Btw, what was Rino doing with the Yepes/Samurai hair? He looked even more ridiculous then usual +1 Defense cost us the game. Oddo/Antonini/Sokratis shouldn't be seen anywhere near a football pitch. |
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Apr 20 2011, 10:33 PM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 21 2011, 01:22 AM) Ah .. So we go for the Scudetto and merda go for the Copa. Good times (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Unfortunately we'll have to go for the Coppa too as we're not out yet. I wish we were. I don't want us lose any concentration in the league. |
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Apr 20 2011, 10:36 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 3,601 Joined: 22-February 10 Member No.: 7,230 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 20 2011, 11:18 PM) +1 Defense cost us the game. Oddo/Antonini/Sokratis shouldn't be seen anywhere near a football pitch. And Pirlo... man, such an eyeshore to watch him play in front of the defense... nice one, Allegri |
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Apr 20 2011, 10:40 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 20 2011, 11:33 PM) Unfortunately we'll have to go for the Coppa too as we're not out yet. I wish we were. I don't want us lose any concentration in the league. You snub the Coppa way too much. It's obviously the least important trophy, but if we want to become a club with winning mentality, we must try to win it at all cost. |
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Apr 20 2011, 10:43 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Apr 20 2011, 11:36 PM) And Pirlo... man, such an eyeshore to watch him play in front of the defense... nice one, Allegri Agreed. I think the days of Pirlo in front of the defense might be over. I'd rather have a player with physical attributes and good feet there, like Van Bommel. |
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Apr 20 2011, 11:17 PM
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Milanfan to Death Group: Full Members Posts: 2,171 Joined: 6-July 05 From: Malaysia Member No.: 11 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 21 2011, 05:43 AM) Agreed. I think the days of Pirlo in front of the defense might be over. I'd rather have a player with physical attributes and good feet there, like Van Bommel. I think that is one key element we missed in the game, a physically strong player who has good range of passes like Van Bommel. Perhaps Pirlo is not 100% match fit, but he looked slow at pulling passes and very slow at closing spaces. I think this is the first time I've seen Milan being counter-attacked in recent games. I agree with the rest, defence screwed this up. And Thiago Silva is showing signs that he might arguably be the best defender in Serie A at the moment. |
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Apr 20 2011, 11:18 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (amancik @ Apr 21 2011, 12:17 AM) And Thiago Silva is showing signs that he might arguably be the best defender in Serie A at the moment. You have any doubts about it? He IS the best defender in Serie A. |
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Apr 20 2011, 11:21 PM
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Milanfan to Death Group: Full Members Posts: 2,171 Joined: 6-July 05 From: Malaysia Member No.: 11 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 21 2011, 06:18 AM) You have any doubts about it? He IS the best defender in Serie A. Not until Nesta is retired. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) |
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Apr 20 2011, 11:40 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
QUOTE Sokratis was aweful, at first I thought he was just rusty, but man, he was just terrible!! Antonini and Oddo? There are no words! +1 Sokratis dared Bonera with this match. But it's funny, we've been harping around how Sokratis has been left out...yet. At first I also thought it's just little match practice, but his overall display was tragicomic. Antonini and Oddo were bad, but not near as bad as Sokratis. Pirlo get's the blame, but none mentions Flamini. If one should be marked usless it's him. He's mediocre at best in some departemnts, but not a single thing he's best or great. |
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Apr 21 2011, 12:12 AM
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CrAzY EyeS Group: Helpers Posts: 5,334 Joined: 25-February 08 From: Trinidad Member No.: 3,723 |
QUOTE (amancik @ Apr 20 2011, 06:21 PM) Not until Nesta is retired. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/king.gif) Out of respect for Nesta, it's a nice thing to say, but not true at all. In fact Nesta himself has called T. Silva the best defender in the world. |
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Apr 21 2011, 12:18 AM
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Milanfan to Death Group: Full Members Posts: 2,171 Joined: 6-July 05 From: Malaysia Member No.: 11 |
QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Apr 21 2011, 07:12 AM) Out of respect for Nesta, it's a nice thing to say, but not true at all. In fact Nesta himself has called T. Silva the best defender in the world. I know, I was just kidding. I wanted to say T. Silva might arguably be the best defender in the world, but I held back and said Serie A instead. |
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Apr 21 2011, 12:18 AM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw7i2BngFSw
Take it at 0:38, and witness Antonini's utter ignorance at adopting the offside trap. Facepalm stuff. |
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Apr 21 2011, 12:28 AM
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Milanfan to Death Group: Full Members Posts: 2,171 Joined: 6-July 05 From: Malaysia Member No.: 11 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 21 2011, 07:18 AM) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw7i2BngFSw Take it at 0:38, and witness Antonini's utter ignorance at adopting the offside trap. Facepalm stuff. Yeah he was putting Hernandez onside. Thiago Silva anticipated Abel H's run and raised his hand straightaway for offiside call not realising Antonini had put Abel H onside. But take nothing away from the finish, completely unexpected. |
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Apr 21 2011, 04:34 AM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 7,004 Joined: 5-August 09 From: CTU Member No.: 6,705 |
How the **** the penalty on Ibra (few minutes after Urby's goal) was not given? Anyway, with our regular lineup we can beat them in Sicily. Hope by then Nesta and Pato would be fit.
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Apr 21 2011, 05:02 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
I hope everyone noticed that we had two penalties not given. First I'm pretty sure it was Antonini who was blatantly and without a doubt pushed to the ground inside the box and the second one was on Ibra when he was tackled inside the area. Actually if Urby hadn't scored, there was another penalty that should have been given on Ibra. But Urby scored that one anyway. Horrendous defending (Papasuckapolous (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) ) and bad refereeing cost us a game we could have won!
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Apr 21 2011, 10:14 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (CHU-LIP @ Apr 20 2011, 09:36 PM) And Pirlo... man, such an eyeshore to watch him play in front of the defense... nice one, Allegri Yep, I'm really hoping that Allegri doesn't try to alternate between Pirlo and VB in that holding position. VB is the only player in our team who can play that position, Pirlo just does not have it in him anmore to play such a position. Pirlo before he got injured was occupying the left midfield spot that Seedorf has been playing in, and he was great in it. That's where he should be played, with VB covering HIM, not Pirlo covering Seedorf and Flamini. Ridiculous stuff imo. Allegri imo has been inch perfect these past few weeks, shut every critic up, but yesterday he made some terrible decisions. Playing that defensive line-up was the 1st one, players who hadn't stepped onto the field in months expected to play against Palermo, it literally looked like only Thiago was playing there, he had to cut in and make an interception on Sokratis' position more then one. Also why he chose to rest Abate, the 23 year old, yet played Seedorf the 34 year old still baffles me. Pirlo shouldn't have been played in the position, and with Pirlo there, 2 DMs should have ben played, not just Flamini, who is arguably the least defensive DM in our team, because he likes to push forward QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 20 2011, 09:40 PM) You snub the Coppa way too much. It's obviously the least important trophy, but if we want to become a club with winning mentality, we must try to win it at all cost. Agreed QUOTE (KillerMax @ Apr 21 2011, 04:02 AM) I hope everyone noticed that we had two penalties not given. First I'm pretty sure it was Antonini who was blatantly and without a doubt pushed to the ground inside the box and the second one was on Ibra when he was tackled inside the area. Actually if Urby hadn't scored, there was another penalty that should have been given on Ibra. But Urby scored that one anyway. Horrendous defending (Papasuckapolous (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) ) and bad refereeing cost us a game we could have won! Agreed,, some terrible refereeing throughout the game, the first half was bad offside calls, I think I spotted 2 where Ibra would have been clean through and he was wrongly called back. Second half, 2 bad penalties not called, the most obvious one was when Ibra was literally chopped off, and yes before Urby fired it in, Ibra was hacked down with no intention of getting the ball, and I'm pretty sure the ref wouldn't have called that either. All in all, the defense looked like something out of a horror show, I haven't seen something so jumbled up from us since last season under Leo |
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Apr 21 2011, 11:28 AM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
I think the only flaw in this game was the way the team dropped its concentration after Ibra's opener .. Otherwise I wasn't expecting much from Amelia, Oddo, Antonini, Papa and Pirlo. I believe Allegri wants to win this trophy and that the club are also considering the double, that said I don't mind us letting this one slip subject to us winning the championship
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Apr 21 2011, 12:44 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 21 2011, 11:28 AM) I think the only flaw in this game was the way the team dropped its concentration after Ibra's opener .. Otherwise I wasn't expecting much from Amelia, Oddo, Antonini, Papa and Pirlo. I believe Allegri wants to win this trophy and that the club are also considering the double, that said I don't mind us letting this one slip subject to us winning the championship At this point we can only lose the Scudetto by our own doing. The Coppa could be huge for us in terms of gaining even more winning confidence, sweeping away the domestic titles will help us carry this on into next season in Europe as well. Personally I want us to give the final push for both, I don't want to see players being rested for the away game. I'm sure the players can handle it, we've had a relatively easy schedule since the international break. Playing another 2 games and giving it there all is not that much of a stretch |
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Apr 21 2011, 03:44 PM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 21 2011, 02:10 AM) You snub the Coppa way too much. It's obviously the least important trophy, but if we want to become a club with winning mentality, we must try to win it at all cost. At all cost? that's the part I have a problem with. slipping in the league because of the Coppa would be too great a cost. wouldn't it? |
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Apr 21 2011, 04:03 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 2,083 Joined: 10-August 09 From: South Carolina Member No.: 6,716 |
I just can't understand needing a goal and putting Gattuso in for Boateng. I just don't get it.
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Apr 21 2011, 05:21 PM
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Giovanissimi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 1,309 Joined: 28-August 09 From: Chicago, IL, USA Member No.: 6,771 |
QUOTE (Zed.D @ Apr 21 2011, 09:44 AM) At all cost? that's the part I have a problem with. slipping in the league because of the Coppa would be too great a cost. wouldn't it? We've got a pretty safe lead for the Scudetto...it would have to be some kind of epic collapse at this point. I did not see this match, but I see no reason why we shouldn't go all out to win the Coppa at this point. |
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Apr 21 2011, 11:27 PM
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The brightest sun is the purest gun Group: Full Members Posts: 26,848 Joined: 23-June 06 From: Albania Member No.: 2,008 |
QUOTE (servbot @ Apr 21 2011, 06:21 PM) We've got a pretty safe lead for the Scudetto...it would have to be some kind of epic collapse at this point. I did not see this match, but I see no reason why we shouldn't go all out to win the Coppa at this point. Precisely. |
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