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post Nov 20 2009, 04:55 AM
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Ok, so obviously yesterdays France/Ireland game was controversial and has many fans talking about the possibilities of Video Replay in football. So I want to know what everyone thinks on the subject. I for one think it should be brought in for goals and only goals. Fouls and PKs are a subjective decision with or without a replay but a ghost goal awarded is not, and I think replay would be a positive addition to the game in this aspect.


What are everyone's thoughts?
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post Nov 20 2009, 07:14 AM
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Edited...the title. I almost thought it was spam, till I saw the poster name. Hope it's fine Dracoris? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 20 2009, 01:18 PM
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I'd pay to see a challenge system in football. I think the game is being held back by the absence of it.
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post Nov 20 2009, 02:26 PM
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I think the game should be replayed, as shoud the 1986 World Cup Quater Final.

The idea of video replay on goals seems like it would be good, but it would certainly be taken advantage of, in my opinion. If there's an important goal scored against United or Liverpool, the officials will find something, anything, however little to disallow it. Unless you're talking just about whether the ball crossed the line or not, then that would be fine as you can't really cheat it at all.
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post Nov 20 2009, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 20 2009, 03:26 PM) *
I think the game should be replayed, as shoud the 1986 World Cup Quater Final.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) That second goal was just too good to just cancel it out.

I say the 1966 WC Final should have been replayed too... it's not a cheating case but we don't know if that third goal was really a goal... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Nov 20 2009, 07:04 PM
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i think the game is more exciting without these technology thangs ... so if they start using it ... in each game we would have at least 4 goals from penalties ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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post Nov 20 2009, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Nov 20 2009, 05:40 PM) *
I say the 1966 WC Final should have been replayed too... it's not a cheating case but we don't know if that third goal was really a goal... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

No offense, dst, this isn't just aimed at you, but it really annoys me. Fine, Englands 3rd goal was very debatable indeed. But there is only 1 reason that this is the talking point, it was the decisive goal. Nobody seems to remember anything else about that game. Do you know why the '66 final went into extra time? Because with the last kick of the game, Germany equalised. A ball was played into the box, a German player handled it which put it past the England defender, allowing Germany to score.

If you want to chalk off Englands 3rd due to a bad decision, you have to chalk of Germanys 2nd. While not being as blatent as the Maradona or Henry handballs, it was still a pretty obvious handball. It's quite funny that the Germans hate that Russian linesman, but he's the only reason it went into etra time in the first place. If Germany had won the game, it would have been their 2nd goal that was the major talking point.

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I'm with AX kinda. Bad decisions make football what it is. How many big talking points do you really get in other sports? Football is special because of this. Yes it's bad at times, but the 6 minutes added on for Uniteds 1st Premier League title, Englands 3rd goal in the '66 Final, the hand of God, Henry's handball to send France to the World Cup.. it makes football what it is, in my opinion. Don't bring in technology. Bring in referees that can actually do their job.

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post Nov 20 2009, 07:45 PM
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I did not know about that (the handball) and I (as you know) just brought the issue up just to tease you! Now you've made me cryyyyyyyy... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

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Debatable/controversial decisions make football what it is, true. But technology would make football better, a sport with no such decisions... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 20 2009, 08:04 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Nov 20 2009, 06:45 PM) *
I did not know about that (the handball) and I (as you know) just brought the issue up just to tease you! Now you've made me cryyyyyyyy... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)

Nobody knows about it, nor cares. Because we're the bad guys. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

QUOTE (dst @ Nov 20 2009, 06:45 PM) *
Debatable/controversial decisions make football what it is, true. But technology would make football better, a sport with no such decisions... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

It's hard to introduce into football though, because 99% of decisions are opinion based, which a video can't sort out. I thin handballs and 'did it cross the line?' things are the only things it could really sort out. It should jut be used on goals if it were to be bought in. Offsides, handballs and deciding whether it crossed the line or not being the only reviewable aspects. Even if there was a blatent foul that the ref missed, that shouldn't matter on the vide, in my opinion.
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post Nov 20 2009, 08:15 PM
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I think the five referees on the pitch is the best thing to do. Like in Europa League, where you have, besides the two linesmen, ref, and the assitant ref, there are two more one behind each goal. And with that, a lot of controversial decisions can be ruled on with certainty
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post Nov 20 2009, 08:24 PM
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Yeah, I think with an extra official there then no way in hell does Henry get away with those handballs.
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post Nov 20 2009, 08:27 PM
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Yes, it is really bad that we qualify from such an incident. I mean, after all we have been consistent in reach two finals in the last three WCs.
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post Nov 20 2009, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE (Protagonist @ Nov 20 2009, 07:27 PM) *
Yes, it is really bad that we qualify from such an incident. I mean, after all we have been consistent in reach two finals in the last three WCs.

While I have sympathy for Ireland, this has been blown out of proportion. it's not like they would have gone through without this goal. France were increasingly looking like scoring and even if Ireland didn't conceed they would have to win the shootout.
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post Nov 20 2009, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Nov 20 2009, 09:30 PM) *
While I have sympathy for Ireland, this has been blown out of proportion. it's not like they would have gone through without this goal. France were increasingly looking like scoring and even if Ireland didn't conceed they would have to win the shootout.


I think with Given in goal, we wont stand a chance in the shoot out. Then again, that is just hind sight
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post Nov 20 2009, 08:56 PM
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Everybody talk about a possibility of replaying, but I yould like to ask you, how many games of football (in WC) have been replayed recently ?? Actually, I dont know, but I do not think there many. What abaout a video replay... I think, it shouldnt be installed as a new rule. It doesnt matter, its about goals or PK's, or something else. Mistekes are part of game. It hurts sometimes.
I clearly remember the day, when Lithuania didnt draw with France, just because of unfairly disallowed goal. It's pity.

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