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Aug 6 2008, 12:42 PM
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(from acmilan.com's english page. their translation) linkMILAN - These, so far, are the official shirt numbers of the Rossoneri's first team, including the two young Uruguay footballers who on Monday became Milan players: GOALKEEPERS: 1 Nelson Dida - 12 Christian Abbiati - 16 Zelijko Kalac DEFENDERS: 3 Paolo Maldini - 2 Massimo Oddo - 4 Kakha Kaladze - 13 Alessandro Nesta - 15 Gianluca Zambrotta - 18 Marek Jankulovski - 19 Giuseppe Favalli - 25 Daniele Bonera - 36 Matteo Darmian - 77 Luca Antonini MIDFIELDERS: 5 Emerson - 8 Rino Gattuso - 14 Mathias Cardacio - 21 Andrea Pirlo - 23 Massimo Ambrosini - 32 Cristian Brocchi - 84 Mathieu Flamini ATTACKERS: 7 Alexandre Pato - 9 Filippo Inzaghi - 10 Clarence Seedorf - 11 Marco Borriello - 20 Tabarè Viudez - 22 Ricardo Kakà - 43 Alberto Paloschi - 80 Ronaldinho Edited to reflect the departures of Digao and Simic.
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Aug 6 2008, 12:44 PM
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So Viudez is the new Gourcuff. Or the new Seedorf maybe... (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Good either way. Takes stress of Kaka like Giancarlo mentioned. But he's an attacker. Heh heh!! I really think a double pivot mid-field will be in the offing this season.
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Aug 9 2008, 05:50 PM
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It is a very good roster and looks like a team that could challenge for the Scudetto and if we, as we suppossedly are, buying either Ivanovic from Chelsea or Thiago Silva from Fluminense our defense would have sufficient back up. I think the squad is easily strong enough to compete for the top place with Inter, Roma, Juve etc and if we get necessary recruits for defense we could go all the way. I don't think we desperately need a keeper as Abbiati has performed well so far in pre-season and we have Felipe coming in for next season from Santos. (We have apparently bought him but have put him on loan in Brazil for this season. Can anyone confirm that?)
Also for the upcoming season is Ancelotti using the Christmas Tree formation and if yes how will we fit both Pato and Borriello in the team? Other than that I think we have a roster that will suit the formation.
Any information on new boys Viudez or Cardacio?
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Aug 9 2008, 06:03 PM
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Very little, chris. There's a bit of information in their respective threads in the player section. I know I saw Cardacio play last year for his NT but wasn't paying any particular attention. They do both seem to have promise though -- and given the jersey numbers they've got it would appear that neither are going on loan or to the primavera.
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Aug 15 2008, 06:22 PM
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I'm not usually much of a stats junkie but I've discovered that Gazzetta has little player information pages on every player in Serie A.
Below are Gazzetta's average player ratings for the Milan squad for last season. I've included ratings for players who were in Serie A last season but not at Milan (ie, Antonelli and Borriello).
1 Dida 5.81 2 Oddo 5.7 3 Maldini 6 4 Kaladze 6 5 Emerson 5.77 7 Pato 6.12 8 Gattuso 5.92 9 Inzaghi 6.15 10 Seedorf 6.02 11 Borriello 6.3 13 Nesta 6.24 16 Kalac 6.18 18 Jankulovski 5.65 19 Favalli 5.83 21 Pirlo 6.18 22 Kaka 6.33 23 Ambrosini 6.2 25 Bonera 6.03 32 Brocchi 5.94 43 Paloschi 6.2 77 Antonini 5.89
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Aug 15 2008, 08:36 PM
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Antonini is having the old Coco number, right? I hope it brings him a bit more luck..
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Aug 25 2008, 08:08 AM
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OFFICAL NUMBERS
Goalkeepers: 1- Dida, 12- Abbiati, 16- Kalac.
Defenders: 2- Oddo, 3- Maldini, 4- Kaladze, 13- Nesta, 15- Zambrotta, 18- Jankulovski, 19- Favalli, 25- Bonera, 36- Darmian, 77- Antonini.
Midfielders: 5- Emerson, 8- Gattuso, 10- Seedorf, 14- Cardacio, 21- Pirlo, 23- Ambrosini, 32- Brocchi, 84- Flamini.
Forwards: 7- Pato, 9- F.Inzaghi, 11- Borriello, 20- Viudez, 22- Kaka, 43- Paloschi, 80- Ronaldinho, ?- Shevchenko.
SHEVA WILL BE DECIDED AFTER MEDICAL TOMORROW~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Aug 25 2008, 10:11 AM
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MAGLIE - Come prima non sarà l’ingaggio di Andriy, mentre il numero di maglia potrebbe essere lo stesso. «Ne parleremo, magari il nostro bambino restituisce a Sheva il 7», butta lì con un sorriso Galliani. «Però non so se è giusto chiederlo». Pato (che aveva mandato la sua cartolina da Pechino nei giorni scorsi: «Se la società me lo chiede, sono pronto a cambiare numero. Sheva ha fatto la storia del Milan») ieri non si è sbilanciato: «Vedremo, ne parleremo». E lui ne avrà di tempo per quella maglia, ma non sarà l’ucraino a chiedere di poterla infilare come nuova: «Pato ha detto che mi lascerebbe il numero sette? E’ bello da parte sua, ma per me andrebbero bene anche il 76, o il 70, o il 77. Basta che ci sia un sette in mezzo e che sia una maglia del Milan». E poi magari ci vorranno un gol e un altro bacio, l’importante è ricominciare.
this is from gazzeta can someone tranlsate it is about number for sheva
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Aug 25 2008, 10:19 AM
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TENNNNIIIEEEEEEEEE!!!(IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) We have less depth than Milan. We need a Tennie replacement.
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Aug 25 2008, 11:22 AM
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Ok..now you're gonna get killed. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) He won't get 7 for sure. Perhaps, he'll take 76..going with the whole 'year of birth' fad, that our new recruits have adopted.
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Aug 25 2008, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE MAGLIE - Come prima non sarà l’ingaggio di Andriy, mentre il numero di maglia potrebbe essere lo stesso. «Ne parleremo, magari il nostro bambino restituisce a Sheva il 7», butta lì con un sorriso Galliani. «Però non so se è giusto chiederlo». Pato (che aveva mandato la sua cartolina da Pechino nei giorni scorsi: «Se la società me lo chiede, sono pronto a cambiare numero. Sheva ha fatto la storia del Milan») ieri non si è sbilanciato: «Vedremo, ne parleremo». E lui ne avrà di tempo per quella maglia, ma non sarà l’ucraino a chiedere di poterla infilare come nuova: «Pato ha detto che mi lascerebbe il numero sette? E’ bello da parte sua, ma per me andrebbero bene anche il 76, o il 70, o il 77. Basta che ci sia un sette in mezzo e che sia una maglia del Milan». E poi magari ci vorranno un gol e un altro bacio, l’importante è ricominciare. [JERSEY- The jersey issue could be the same as Andriy's contract (ie, no hard news yet). "We'll talk, maybe our child will give Sheva the 7," said Galliani with a smile. "Because it's not right to ask him to." Pato (who sent a postcard from Peking in previous days: 'If the club asks me, I'm ready to change numbers. Sheva has made history with Milan.') yesterday wasn't so sure: "We'll see, we'll talk about it." And he who hasn't had the jersey for a time, but it won't be the Ukrainian to ask for it: "Pato has said he'd give me the number 7? It's nice on is part, but for me I'd be happy with 76, or 70, or 77. It's enough that there's a 7 in there and that it's a Milan jersey." And then maybe we'll see a goal and another kiss, the important thing is to recommence.] That's it, more or less. Sorry, still a bit sleepy.
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Aug 25 2008, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 25 2008, 11:46 AM)  [JERSEY- The jersey issue could be the same as Andriy's contract (ie, no hard news yet). "We'll talk, maybe our child will give Sheva the 7," said Galliani with a smile. "Because it's not right to ask him to." Pato (who sent a postcard from Peking in previous days: 'If the club asks me, I'm ready to change numbers. Sheva has made history with Milan.') yesterday wasn't so sure: "We'll see, we'll talk about it." And he who hasn't had the jersey for a time, but it won't be the Ukrainian to ask for it: "Pato has said he'd give me the number 7? It's nice on is part, but for me I'd be happy with 76, or 70, or 77. It's enough that there's a 7 in there and that it's a Milan jersey." And then maybe we'll see a goal and another kiss, the important thing is to recommence.]
That's it, more or less. Sorry, still a bit sleepy. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)
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Aug 25 2008, 12:24 PM
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I'd give him 7 **** in the head...
If he really takes away the 7 from Pato,... it would be a new low even for him. And it would be totally Milan-unlike.
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Aug 25 2008, 12:45 PM
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He should up and take another number really! What a shame...
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Aug 25 2008, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 25 2008, 02:16 PM)  [JERSEY- The jersey issue could be the same as Andriy's contract (ie, no hard news yet). "We'll talk, maybe our child will give Sheva the 7," said Galliani with a smile. "Because it's not right to ask him to." Pato (who sent a postcard from Peking in previous days: 'If the club asks me, I'm ready to change numbers. Sheva has made history with Milan.') yesterday wasn't so sure: "We'll see, we'll talk about it." And he who hasn't had the jersey for a time, but it won't be the Ukrainian to ask for it: "Pato has said he'd give me the number 7? It's nice on is part, but for me I'd be happy with 76, or 70, or 77. It's enough that there's a 7 in there and that it's a Milan jersey." And then maybe we'll see a goal and another kiss, the important thing is to recommence.]
That's it, more or less. Sorry, still a bit sleepy. Sheva needs to act like a human being and reject #7 even if Pato offered to give up on it. I can't believe this sh1t... (IMG: style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) those who think Sheva shouldn't get the armband, I assure you, he will definitely get it!
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Aug 25 2008, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Aug 25 2008, 03:38 PM)  Sheva needs to act like a human being and reject #7 even if Pato offered to give up on it. I can't believe this sh1t... (IMG: style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) those who think Sheva shouldn't get the armband, I assure you, he will definitely get it! If he gets either no.7 or the armband Milan will be a big fat joke! He does not deserve any of that cause he has not been loyal to Milan, period! If I was a Milan player I would be totally against it!
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Aug 25 2008, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow @ Aug 25 2008, 04:20 PM)  I'd call Jack Sparrow and take over Milanello!
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Aug 25 2008, 02:34 PM
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We don't know anything about jersey numbers yet. Shevchenko's comments quoted above were actually rather modest, I thought. If, however, he turns into a teacher's pet and gets his way in everything...fishdoll will be displeased.
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Aug 25 2008, 04:55 PM
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(IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) ..grrh,...I don't like that "above 40" number trend we're building..
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Aug 26 2008, 06:43 AM
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^^ (IMG: style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Dunno...I always played with number 47. I used to act, high and mighty and say stuff like it was related to 1947 ((IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Yeah right!!)...and that it added up to my lucky number....but I just liked the game a lot. Hitman:Codename 47.
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Aug 26 2008, 11:07 AM
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kurt is younger than me, by a year. You have still a lot to learn about the workings of the world, young one.. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Aug 26 2008, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 26 2008, 01:01 PM)  I've always liked 23 myself, and liked 87 since it' my birth year. But my football team said they wouldn't let us have numbers though high so I just went with 8! They considered 23 to be high? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
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Aug 26 2008, 02:17 PM
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Guys, there ARE other people who can translate Italian. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Porty, for example, is probably better at it than I am.
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Aug 26 2008, 02:22 PM
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Porty? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) He's the Seedorf of Milanfan. He turns up when he wants to, with a translation. 10ie, you're more or less our Pirlo, there is no one in the team who can do what you do... (IMG: style_emoticons/default/king.gif)
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Aug 28 2008, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE Blog: Number crunchingAndriy Shevchenko is back at Milan and looks likely to be given Alexandre Pato's No 7 shirt. Steve Wilson thinks he should have to earn the jersey (IMG: http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/blogs/shevseven460.jpg) Andriy Shevchenko is a legend, no argument from me on that matter. What he achieved in his first spell at San Siro marks him down as one of the club's all-time greats, but, remember, it was his decision to walk away from the club for the millions offered by Chelsea. Now that he is back it is up to him to earn the respect of the fans and reclaim his status in the Rossoneri Hall of Fame. There have been rumours abound that the Ukrainian is to be given the No 7 shirt that he wore in his heyday, currently owned by young Brazilian sensation Alexandre Pato. It doesn't appear to be Sheva who wants this, the player claiming that he would be happy with No 70, 76 or 77 - as long as it has a seven in it. Yet, someone at the club wishes to see him in his old jersey. If The Duck does have to hand over the number which he wore last term - as he slotted home nine goals in 18 games - it will be yet another sign of the poor behind the scenes running of the Diavoli. He bravely took the weight of expectation that comes with carrying the famous digit on his back and went on to earn the right to keep the coveted number with his performances last term. The club have already failed to adequately solve their goalkeeping and defensive crisis, instead signing two Hollywood players who may be past their best, and then gave an unjustified contract to Clarence Seedorf's brother. To now take a prestigious jersey from a lad who represents the club's future in order to give it to a man returning with his metaphorical tail between his legs lacks class. Even Ronaldinho - whose R10 branding relies on him wearing the No 10 shirt - was big enough to put his own personal gains aside to keep harmony in the camp when he took the No 80 top instead of relieving Seedorf of his number. Whoever it is pushing for Sheva to take back the No 7 is only going to make it harder for him to win over the fans who feel he betrayed them by leaving. Couldn't agree with it more. Only those who blindly support everything the management do - whether it's right or wrong - will argue with the FACT that Sheva mustn't get #7 (IF that's what he or the management want). I'm glad to see him back, but he (or those certain persons behind the curtains) should think about another jersey number. it'd be a disgraceful act if they took it from Pato and handed it to Sheva.
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Aug 28 2008, 07:41 PM
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I would like Sheva to get the #7 shirt, and I think everybody knows my opinion of the current management, and it's certainly not that of absoloute agreement of everything they do.
The reason I say he should? It's just a number. Some players like them have feel they have a meaning, others don't. Pato doesn't really care in my opinion, I really don't think he's bothered whether he wears #7 or not. But Sheva does. So what harm does it do giving Sheva a number he wants, when Pato is fine with it?
It's not a matter of 'taking it from Pato' and giving it somebody else. Pato made the offer, because I really don't think he cares about that number, the #7 has no link to him at all, he wasn't even that # at his Brazilian club.
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Aug 28 2008, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 28 2008, 11:11 PM)  I would like Sheva to get the #7 shirt, and I think everybody knows my opinion of the current management, and it's certainly not that of absoloute agreement of everything they do.
The reason I say he should? It's just a number. Some players like them have feel they have a meaning, others don't. Pato doesn't really care in my opinion, I really don't think he's bothered whether he wears #7 or not. But Sheva does. So what harm does it do giving Sheva a number he wants, when Pato is fine with it?
It's not a matter of 'taking it from Pato' and giving it somebody else. Pato made the offer, because I really don't think he cares about that number, the #7 has no link to him at all, he wasn't even that # at his Brazilian club. Do you really believe in those?... How do we know what Pato wants deep inside? what if he's being pushed to giving up the number buy some people? I can't accept that #7 means 'nothing' to him. maybe it did not when he made his debut, but now it does. it represents the memories of his first goals, the sweetest ones! he's young, they should always do things that boost his confidence, not destroy it. taking #7 from him and giving it to Sheva is 'exactly' like destroying everything he earned in his first half-season. And it's not just about Pato not wanting it/Sheva wanting it. it's much deeper than that... it's putting the individuals ahead of the team in its worst form.
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Aug 28 2008, 09:16 PM
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Agreed on the whole number thing zd, Pato should keep his own number. Sheva was humble enough to say that he would be ok with taking another number, so why continue to push it? It will not look good. I was in favour of having Sheva back but as a new player that starts from ground zero, ofcourse the memories of his past remain with us but as far as other previliges go, he doesn't get any special ones. Captaincy and first dibs on a shirt that is already taken (no matter whose it is) should not be something that is discussed Anyway. Look at our roster http://www.acmilan.com/lm_team_roster.aspxOur persuit of 'bolstering' the forward line by showing the fans a mirage that is not actually there has lead to the midfield looking thinned out. Seedorf needs to be moved back into the midfielders list, and so does Viudez because as far as I know he's an attacking midfielder not a striker, and even one of Kaka or R10 should be moved back. This is getting a bit risiculous now.
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Aug 29 2008, 10:04 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Aug 29 2008, 12:46 AM)  Agreed on the whole number thing zd, Pato should keep his own number. Sheva was humble enough to say that he would be ok with taking another number, so why continue to push it? It will not look good. I was in favour of having Sheva back but as a new player that starts from ground zero, ofcourse the memories of his past remain with us but as far as other previliges go, he doesn't get any special ones. Captaincy and first dibs on a shirt that is already taken (no matter whose it is) should not be something that is discussed Anyway. Look at our roster http://www.acmilan.com/lm_team_roster.aspxOur persuit of 'bolstering' the forward line by showing the fans a mirage that is not actually there has lead to the midfield looking thinned out. Seedorf needs to be moved back into the midfielders list, and so does Viudez because as far as I know he's an attacking midfielder not a striker, and even one of Kaka or R10 should be moved back. This is getting a bit risiculous now. I, too, wanted to see him back and I'm happy for him and for us now. but the armband and especially #7 are not good ideas at all. I guess we should wait and see what happens... QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 29 2008, 01:22 AM)  On the flipside, Zd, how do we know that Pato didn't say Sheva can have #7? It may mean nothing to him. If he'd made a strong repuation with that number, say like a Ronaldinho with #10 or Beckham with #7 kinda thing then I'd agree. But he's spent 6 months with the #7 shirt, I just don't think it'd mean much to him. So, you agree that we have no idea whether or not he really wants to stay with his number, right? the best thing to do is to follow the role model we have and according to that, Sheva has to choose another number because that number belongs to another player. just like when Ronaldinho came and had to go with #80 because #10 was already Seedorf's.
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Aug 29 2008, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Aug 29 2008, 10:58 AM)  Yeah, I'm sorry, #11 doesn't belong to anyone. my bad (IMG: http://www.pic4ever.com/images/Just_Cuz_19.gif) I think it belongs to Boriello. Anyway, I'm pretty sure Pato would prefer the 11 but since it's not available he should keep his number. Since Sheva has no problem with it I don't know why someone else is trying to push it
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Aug 29 2008, 02:19 PM
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11 has to be the worst number one can pick... it just looks so bad in a shirt!
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Aug 29 2008, 04:00 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Aug 29 2008, 05:44 PM)  And he has not problem admitting, MizNelson!
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Aug 29 2008, 09:38 PM
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Primavera
          
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 29 2008, 07:30 PM)  Well maybe those wise guys have got better things to do than count numbers (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I thought that was your job... counting numbers and all (IMG: style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Anyways, this is enough for me: QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 29 2008, 02:04 PM)  Pato will get the #11 and thats it ... You can't be always right. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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