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Jul 14 2008, 10:56 PM
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The icons of the team emblems look great Mike. Very sharp (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) QUOTE (agenth @ Jul 14 2008, 09:09 PM)  wow this looks so ultra-spazzy :DDD!
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Wasn't the legend, that the winner wins Serie A, or was it the contrary, that the winner loses Serie A? XD Or maybe it's me being confuzzled D: Isn't that the Berlusconi Trophy between Milan and Juve? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Jul 17 2008, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE (Minami @ Jul 16 2008, 08:59 PM)  I think that legend was about Trofeo TIM, because last year I though that it's great that Inter won it, cuz that way we gonna win Serie A, but it wasn't how I expected it... (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Both have been mentioned in the 'Scudetto curse' But it has been more towards the Trofeo Berlusconi game especially these last few years when Milan and Juve were the only ones that were really competing for the title
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Jul 17 2008, 06:47 PM
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Will this be the first Mourinho encounter?
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Jul 24 2008, 07:43 PM
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Today there was no team training. However, some players came to Milanello anyway:
Kakà, Jankulovski and Borriello did athletic work on the pitch, Did aand Emerson did personalized work in the gym and Nesta did some physical therapy (fyi, he supposedly hurt his back picking up his toddler, Sofia).
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Jul 25 2008, 05:40 AM
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^^ (IMG: style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) What's he been feeding her? What's the world coming to, if you need to warm up before you try carrying a baby?!!
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Jul 25 2008, 11:59 PM
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Today there was only one training session. The Azzurri (other than Borriello who is already back) all returned to Milanello this morning. Ambro, Pirlo, and Zambrotta all undertook testing while Gattuso worked with Janku on the central pitch and then did an aerobic test.
Afternoon training started at 17.30 on the central pitch with standard warmups. After his little chat, Ancelotti had the team work on a technical-athletic course with the ball (based on the photos on acmilan.com, I think this is running the ball around flags and cones). After this, the team worked on a drill in the middle of the pitch.
Simic worked on performance tests.
Emerson, Inzaghi and Nesta worked in the gym.
Il Capitano worked with the group.
Tomorrow the team will have two practices. The morning practice (at 10am) will be open to the public. The afternoon practice (at 17.30) will be closed.
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Jul 26 2008, 01:41 PM
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This morning's training has taken place.
After Carletto's talk, the team warmed up with running around the perimeter of the pitch and some stretching.
Following this there was a tactical 2-touch exercise on the reduced pitch while the keepers worked with their trainer Villiam Vecchi. After that there was a 4 person v. 4 person attack-v-defense drill.
Training ended with a mini game with Abbiati and Kalac in goal.
Dida trained separately.
Kaladze, Nesta, Inzaghi and Emerson did specific work in the gym.
There'll be a second training session this afternoon.
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Jul 26 2008, 07:00 PM
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Afternoon training has taken place.
After warmup, the players were divided in four groups that took turns running a course with high obstacles.
Following this, the team was divided into groups: some players went into the gym to work on specific work while Janku, Ambro, and Oddo played beach volleyball against Kaka, Flamini and Digao.
Following this, Antonini, Bonera, Oddo, Flamini, and Aubameyeang ran sprints (?) of 1200 meters.
Nesta, Borriello, Kaladze, Emerson, and Pippo trained in the gym.
Tomorrow there will also be two training sessions. The morning session is closed but the afternoon session is open to fans.
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Jul 26 2008, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 26 2008, 06:13 PM)  Man acid, calm down! I just went on the 'view newest posts' thing and you made 3 posts all at 1:59 GMT, how quick can you type!? Um, very fast. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Hehe. Honestly, it's the only thing I'm good at. Everything else, I'm still learning. FACT. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Jul 26 2008, 09:27 PM)  hes like a machine. I think he prefers it that way acid. Yeah, I guess. For all I know he won't be here after the end of this decade. If he still has it in him, I just wish he passes the torch to a younger, agile keeper that's all. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Just the way he got the No. 1 jersey a few years back. I have a feeling we'll be going after a new keeper in any of the next couple of transfer window. None of our gloves are young, so planning ahead is vital. QUOTE (Portikins @ Jul 26 2008, 11:51 PM)  First match as Inter coach? No. They won vs. Al-Hilal 2 days ago or so (1-0). But they played poorly. I think Fillipo meant first Mourinho encounter with us. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) Unofficial, yes, because it's a friendly. But we've got inter as our 5th match, which is earlier than usual, so that will be our second encounter with Mou and his, um, team.
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Jul 26 2008, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Jul 26 2008, 02:08 PM)  Off topic alert: And just in case you're wondering, Kurt, I used to top at well over 100 words per minute. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) That was when I was young. Those were the days, the first time I built myself a computer in, what, 1998. Windows 98 was just released then. I'm still 23, but boy that seems like ages ago. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Time sure does fly! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) At first you made yourself sound like a 53 year old... 23? You're still a kid. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jul 26 2008, 11:49 PM
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Ohdear. A week into training and there's already an injury report for the team. (my translation of the note on acmilan.com's italian page. apologies for errors as the medical terminology is hard for me).
Marco Borriello suffered a sprain in his right knee during this morning's training. Tomorrow he'll undergo medical testing (probably an MRI). Fillipo Inzaghi strained his left thigh in training before the Cremonese game. At the beginning of next week, he'll have an an MRI as a precaution. Alessandro Nesta, after visits to the doctor, has started a rehab cycle to cure him of his back injury - his situation is improving. Emerson, after having been given precautionary exams and visiting a specialist, has started a rehab cycle.
On the upside of things, this probably means that Paloschi will be remaining with the team.
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Jul 27 2008, 11:53 AM
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This morning's training has taken place.
Training began with some aerobic work and then work on the ground. Following this, the players worked on a course with high obstacles.
In the second part of training, players worked on specific work:
Simic, Ambrosini, Zambrotta and Pirlo worked on a series of exercises. Gattuso ran on the central pitch and the rest of the group worked in the gym.
Nesta, Inzaghi, Emerson and Borriello trained in the gym.
The afternoon training session will be open to the public.
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Jul 27 2008, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 27 2008, 03:20 PM)  If you get the medieset channels (Canale 5, Italia Uno and Rete 4) then yes it will be shown live on Canale 5, they always show the Trofeo Tim and Birra Moretti Trophy, plus some other friendly tournaments
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Jul 27 2008, 05:46 PM
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The order of the games will be:
1. Milan-Juve 2. Loser 1 - merda 3. Winner 1 - merda
The tournament's at the Olimpico di Torino this year.
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Jul 27 2008, 05:54 PM
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I think it depends on who won it last year.
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Jul 27 2008, 06:14 PM
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I don't think we'll have much of a squad for this, the Italian Internationals have only just begun training and our attack is either injured or away (Pato at Olympics, Palo just returning from the U19s) And I don't think Kaka will play since he's still easing into things after surgery.
Juve will have the strongest team from all 3 involved since they have been preparing longer because of CL qualifiers
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Jul 27 2008, 06:33 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jul 27 2008, 05:22 PM)  Yeah ... I think it's good chance to give some of the 'rotation' players a go; since the outcome doesn't really matter Hopefully we'll lose all our pre-season games, it's proved to be a good omen in the past. But Hopefully if Carlo decides to play some primavera players he will stick with the ones he used in the last friendly. He should give those players some continuety. There is no point in playing 5 different primavera's in every friendly we play. It's better to stick with the same 5 most promising players rather then continuosly changing. Does anyone know is Darmain and Paloschi will be ready to play in this one? I liked Osuji also from last Wednesday's friendly.
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Jul 27 2008, 07:23 PM
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Today's afternoon training session has taken place, observed by approximately 5000 fans.
After warmup, the team worked on offensive drills: one group worked on a series of triangulations, one group worked on crosses (Oddo and Zambro from the right; Favster and Janku on the left).
There was an 'attack v defense drill as well.
Oddo and Seedorf worked on free kicks.
Gattuso, Flamini, and Favalli worked on technique with Mauro Tassotti.
There will be two training sessions tomorrow.
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Jul 27 2008, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE (jefri91 @ Jul 27 2008, 08:25 PM)  how long till the game? how many hours left Well it's on the 29th and I think it will start at 20:30 Italian time Give or take and I counted this roughly it will be 45 hours and 20 minutes from the time I posted this If you come on this thread on the match day it will be more clear on the time left before kick off
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Jul 27 2008, 10:31 PM
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I think they do penalties after every 45 minute game even if there's a winner (one of the summer friendly tournaments does this).
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Jul 27 2008, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 27 2008, 10:31 PM)  I think they do penalties after every 45 minute game even if there's a winner (one of the summer friendly tournaments does this). They only do penalties if there's a draw in the Tropheo Tim. Last season there was no draws and no penalties occured but in the tournament that took place before the 06/07 season the zebras and Inter drew in one of the games and penalties occured, which Inter lost out on IIRC
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Jul 27 2008, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE (CrazyMilanFan @ Jul 27 2008, 10:37 PM)  any chace of this stremig on soap cast or other software?? Don't know, I didn't see the games listed on my p2p when I checked this morning.
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Jul 28 2008, 02:40 PM
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And...they played beach volleyball during this morning's training too!
This morning's training has taken place.
There was stretching as warmup for everyone.
Following this was a game of beach volley, with Gattuso, Kaladze, Abameyang and Simic playing against Flamini, Zambrotta, Emerson and Maldini.
Emerson then did some running in the sand pit. Kaladze, Antonini, Maldini, Favalli, Kaka, Janku, and Brocchi also did running drills in the sand pit (must be an awfully large sand pit!)
Gattuso, Seedorf, Oddo, Bonera, Flamini and Digao worked on strengthening and resistance drills over 80 meters.
Ambrosini and Pirlo worked in the central field.
As usual, the keepers trained separately.
There'll be a second session later today.
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Jul 28 2008, 02:42 PM
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Here are the Zebra call ups for the games:
Amauri, Buffon, Camoranesi, Chiellini, Chimenti, Del Piero, Ekdal, Grygera, Iaquinta, Knezevic, Legrottaglie, Marchionni, Mellberg, Molinaro, Nedved, Poulsen, Salihamidzic, Sissoko, Tiago, Trezeguet, Zebina, Ariaudo, Esposito, Nocchi, Rossi.
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Jul 28 2008, 02:58 PM
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Carletto gave his prematch press conference. Here's what he had to say (my translation of the original on acmilan.com's italian page. apologies in advance for any errors) Injuries and StrikersMisfortunes can happen during preparation. I'm displeased only that some players are having to interrupt their preparation. The attack is the section that requires more work to be match-ready. Paloschi will stay with us, we've never considered selling him. Right now it's necessary that he stays with us. He could also remain until the end of the year. His remaning with us is not related to Borriello's injury (fishdoll note - that last is really what he said. buh (IMG: style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ) Trofeo TimNesta's out, but he's recovering. The others are doing well. As for Kaka, Ricky's ready and could play both games. As for the NT players, they're really only ready to play one. For the attack, we'll have Paloschi, Seedorf, and Ricky at our disposal. Nesta, Maldini, Inzaghi and Borriello are staying home. The games tomorrow are friendlies but when one faces teams like Juve or Inter the games are never really just friendlies. They're important games. We hope to do well and, if possible, to win. We will face two adversaries who are also contending for the league championship. KeepersDida's doing well, he's recuperated and is following a program of preparation to avoid possible re-injuries. He could be recuperated in time to play the friendly in Manchester. As regards the hierarchy of keepers, I'll evaluate that at the beginning of the season. Dinho and the OlympicsIn reality, considering that he played little last year, playing in the Olympics could be good for improving his form. When he arrived at Milanello, he wasn't at 100%. Playing in the Olympics could improve his condition. Also, he and Pato haven't yet played together. The Olympics will give them the chance to do this. Preparation and the CalendarI haven't given a lot of thought to the Serie A calendar. For some it's good but for others it's a little complicated. Certainly I wouldn't change the fact that the derby's on the 5th matchday. The preparation we're doing isn't terribly different from that of previous years; the objective is to be ready for the start of the season. Milan and ShevchenkoWhat will I say to Sheva in Moscow? I'll wish him sincere good luck for the upcoming season. The rumors about Samp's interest? I don't think he'll return to another Italian club. Buffon said that Milan is the favourite for the title? If we give our best we can do it. It's necessary to be brave and to bring out the best of every player. link
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Jul 28 2008, 06:29 PM
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Here are the merda callups:
Orlandoni; Zanetti, Maxwell, Maicon, Burdisso, Materazzi, Andrea Mei, Santon; Stankovic, Luis Figo, Jimenez, Vieira, Dacourt, Cambiasso, Muntari, Pelé, Mancini; Adriano, Crespo, Suazo, Balotelli.
(No Toldo, no Julio Cesar).
EDIT: acmilan.com had an oopsie and left Toldo and Julio Cesar off the list of call ups. They'll be there.
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Jul 28 2008, 06:38 PM
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Afternoon training has taken place.
After warmup and a course of hurdles, Carletto gave a talk. And then work with the ball. First there were technical-tactical exercises in view of tomorrow's game.
Then there were a series of minigames both with and without keepers. Finally there was an 11 v 11 game with the two following lineups and Abbiati and Kalac in goal:
TEAM GREEN: Seedorf, Kakà, Aubameyang, Brocchi, Kaladze, Jankulovski, Bonera, Zambrotta, Pirlo e Ambrosini. TEAM WHITE: Digao, Gattuso, Oddo, Simic, Strasser, Osuji, Maldini, Favalli, Antonini and another player from the Primavera.
Dida also took part in the minigames.
As regards individual players, Flamini did some personalized work, and Emerson, Pippo, Nesta and Borriello worked in the gym.
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Jul 28 2008, 06:41 PM
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And, finally, here are the Milan callups for the games: MILANO - Questi i convocati di Carlo Ancelotti, con i rispettivi numeri di maglia, per il Trofeo Tim in programma domani a Torino: Dida 1, Kalac 16, Abbiati 12 Antonini 77, Bonera 25, Digao 31, Favalli 19, Jankulovski 18, Kaladze 4, Oddo 2, Simic 17, Zambrotta 15 Ambrosini 23, Brocchi 32, Flamini 84, Gattuso 8, Pirlo 21, Strasser 51 Osuji 58, Kakà 22, Paloschi 43, Seedorf 10. Kaka is a striker this week. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Jul 28 2008, 08:50 PM
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Milan called up players: Dida 1, Kalac 16, Abbiati 12, Antonini 77, Bonera 25, Digao 31, Favalli 19, Jankulovski 18, Kaladze 4, Oddo 2, Simic 17, Zambrotta 15, Ambrosini 23, Brocchi 32, Flamini 84( (IMG: style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) ), Gattuso 8, Pirlo 21, Strasser 51, Osuji 58, Kakà 22, Paloschi 43, Seedorf 10.
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Jul 28 2008, 08:56 PM
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Will 84 be his official number? He probably chose if because of his year of birth (1984) but he should have gone with 24 instead just like Ronaldinho should have gone with 28. But... who cares anyway? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Jul 28 2008, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Jul 28 2008, 08:56 PM)  Will 84 be his official number? He probably chose if because of his year of birth (1984) but he should have gone with 24 instead just like Ronaldinho should have gone with 28. But... who cares anyway? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I don't think they're official, he had 25 in his last friendly and Antonini also had a different number
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Jul 28 2008, 11:30 PM
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Hrm.
Don't expect lots of loud chanting and/or banners from the Milan contingent in the crowd at this one. The Curva Sud is boycotting this and other summer friendlies which they state (in a nicely typed up manifesto) are moneymaking ventures and not real competitions. Apparently they also boycotted last summer.
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Jul 29 2008, 05:53 AM
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I agree, they shouldn't have boycotted. But the red side of Milan has always been a little leftist. So obviously, they love Silvio, but hate his money. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Perhaps Flamini and R80 reckon, that these numbers would make it easier for the club to retire them? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Jul 29 2008, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 29 2008, 01:30 AM)  Hrm.
Don't expect lots of loud chanting and/or banners from the Milan contingent in the crowd at this one. The Curva Sud is boycotting this and other summer friendlies which they state (in a nicely typed up manifesto) are moneymaking ventures and not real competitions. Apparently they also boycotted last summer. The same people that showed up in the extravagant Ronaldinho presentation? Oh OK... (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Jul 29 2008, 03:37 PM
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That was free. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) For those who read Italian, Mediaset (and possibly Eurosport.it) will be doing text commentary for the game. I have no info on streams as I still live in the land of dialup.
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Jul 29 2008, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 29 2008, 05:37 PM)  They supported it Tennie...
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Jul 29 2008, 04:11 PM
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Oh, absolutely. But they didn't have to pay to get in. That was a free show. What they're objecting to is paying through the nose for the preseason friendlies.
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Jul 29 2008, 04:35 PM
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How much is it to get a ticket for these games?
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Jul 29 2008, 04:42 PM
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Buh. Ten Euros for the 'Milan fan section'. The expensive seats away from the various fan sections are 50 euros. That's...not very much.
Silly of them to object to 10 euros - even though it would cost them something to get to Torino and back (RT on the train is around 40 euros).
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Jul 29 2008, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 29 2008, 06:42 PM)  Buh. Ten Euros for the 'Milan fan section'. The expensive seats away from the various fan sections are 50 euros. That's...not very much.
Silly of them to object to 10 euros - even though it would cost them something to get to Torino and back (RT on the train is around 40 euros). They should stop whining. It's 10 Euros for 1.5 match of the three most successful teams in Italy! By the way, is it the first time it's been held in Torino cause I remember it always took place at San Siro, or am I wrong? QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jul 29 2008, 07:10 PM)  Dial-up still exists in America? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Apparently it does... it seems that Tennie is angry at technology for some reason! You're missing out Tennie, it's the greatest invention since the wheel! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Jul 29 2008, 05:49 PM
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Yep! Sad, innit?
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Jul 29 2008, 06:10 PM
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(but the money I save from the dialup internet v. high speed helps pay for a trip to Milan, so it's all relative).
EDIT: For those of you who speak Italian, Eurosport's italian page will be running text commentary of the games.
This post has been edited by Tennie: Jul 29 2008, 06:11 PM
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Jul 29 2008, 07:08 PM
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(IMG: style_emoticons/default/beersmiley1.gif) (from acmilan.com) Here are the lineups for the first game: JUVENTUS: Buffon; Grygera, Chiellini, Mellberg, Molinaro; Marchionni, Sissoko, Tiago, Nedved; Trezeguet, Iaquinta. MILAN: Kalac; Zambrotta, Bonera, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Brocchi, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Seedorf, Kakà; Paloschi. (beard alert in the zebra backline!)
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Jul 29 2008, 07:12 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 29 2008, 07:08 PM)  (IMG: style_emoticons/default/beersmiley1.gif) (from acmilan.com) Here are the lineups for the first game: JUVENTUS: Buffon; Grygera, Chiellini, Mellberg, Molinaro; Marchionni, Sissoko, Tiago, Nedved; Trezeguet, Iaquinta. MILAN: Kalac; Zambrotta, Bonera, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Brocchi, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Seedorf, Kakà; Paloschi. (beard alert in the zebra backline!) flamini (IMG: style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Jul 29 2008, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Jul 29 2008, 10:38 PM)  (IMG: style_emoticons/default/beersmiley1.gif) (from acmilan.com) Here are the lineups for the first game: JUVENTUS: Buffon; Grygera, Chiellini, Mellberg, Molinaro; Marchionni, Sissoko, Tiago, Nedved; Trezeguet, Iaquinta. MILAN: Kalac; Zambrotta, Bonera, Kaladze, Jankulovski; Brocchi, Pirlo, Ambrosini; Seedorf, Kakà; Paloschi. (beard alert in the zebra backline!) No Flamini?...
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Jul 29 2008, 07:16 PM
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No, the first match is Milan-Zebras. Then Inter play the losers and winners of the first match in order. (this per acmilan.com and eurosport's italian page) EDIT: And I'm sure Flamini will play the second game. Don't worry, he'll be there. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jul 29 2008, 07:21 PM
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cmf, if you haven't already done so, could you post your stream link in the live football section? Lots of people have been asking about a stream for the game.
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