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 Feb 6 2008, 10:19 AM
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7th Heaven  Group: Helpers Posts: 7,116 Joined: 2-November 05 From: Sydney. Australia. Member No.: 821  |
all discussion here! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Feb 6 2008, 10:32 AM
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7th Heaven Group: Helpers Posts: 7,116 Joined: 2-November 05 From: Sydney. Australia. Member No.: 821 |
Australia leading 3 - 0 at half-time against Qatar (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Feb 6 2008, 10:35 AM
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7th Heaven Group: Helpers Posts: 7,116 Joined: 2-November 05 From: Sydney. Australia. Member No.: 821 |
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Feb 6 2008, 01:55 PM
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"Durgle The Turtle" Group: Helpers Posts: 1,583 Joined: 28-January 07 From: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia Member No.: 3,402 |
Younis Mahmoud inured in first five minutes of the game. hope its not serious cuz we need him.
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Feb 6 2008, 02:03 PM
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7th Heaven Group: Helpers Posts: 7,116 Joined: 2-November 05 From: Sydney. Australia. Member No.: 821 |
QUOTE (jefri91 @ Feb 6 2008, 11:55 PM) Younis Mahmoud inured in first five minutes of the game. hope its not serious cuz we need him.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) yes indeed! This post has been edited by arivanjj: Feb 6 2008, 02:04 PM |
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Feb 6 2008, 02:40 PM
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"Durgle The Turtle" Group: Helpers Posts: 1,583 Joined: 28-January 07 From: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia Member No.: 3,402 |
QUOTE (arivanjj @ Feb 6 2008, 01:03 PM) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) yes indeed! GOAAAAAAAAAAAAALL MOHAAAAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED !!!!@ |
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Feb 6 2008, 02:41 PM
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"Durgle The Turtle" Group: Helpers Posts: 1,583 Joined: 28-January 07 From: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia Member No.: 3,402 |
ALLAAAAAAAAH AKBAAAAAAAAAAR !!!!
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Feb 6 2008, 02:56 PM
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"Durgle The Turtle" Group: Helpers Posts: 1,583 Joined: 28-January 07 From: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia Member No.: 3,402 |
OMG I WANT JASSIM IN MILAN NOW !!!!
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Feb 6 2008, 03:02 PM
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"Durgle The Turtle" Group: Helpers Posts: 1,583 Joined: 28-January 07 From: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia Member No.: 3,402 |
no way that was red card, ref is a dumb *****
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Feb 6 2008, 08:28 PM
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7th Heaven Group: Helpers Posts: 7,116 Joined: 2-November 05 From: Sydney. Australia. Member No.: 821 |
Iraq 1 - 1 China.... disappointing result (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Mar 26 2008, 04:59 PM
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"Durgle The Turtle" Group: Helpers Posts: 1,583 Joined: 28-January 07 From: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia Member No.: 3,402 |
New coach new tactic but bad start. Iraq is playing very good. Hope they can score a tie before the break we need this win badly.
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Mar 26 2008, 05:04 PM
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Primavera  Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
So, beside Japan and South Korea, who are the favorites? I've heard Iraq has a good team (made some good results on the Asian Cup, didn't they?)
Who's in charge for Japan now? |
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Mar 26 2008, 05:14 PM
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"Durgle The Turtle" Group: Helpers Posts: 1,583 Joined: 28-January 07 From: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia Member No.: 3,402 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 26 2008, 04:04 PM) So, beside Japan and South Korea, who are the favorites? I've heard Iraq has a good team (made some good results on the Asian Cup, didn't they?) Who's in charge for Japan now? favorites are the usual countries you mentioned and saudi arabia. but they lost 3-0 against uzbekistan today. this shows that saudi depends too much on qahtani to do everything. I really want to see iraq in the world cup, theyve been playing amazing each match but theyve got a few bad luck on them. Japan i have no idea about them i stopped watching most asian games |
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Mar 26 2008, 05:58 PM
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"Durgle The Turtle" Group: Helpers Posts: 1,583 Joined: 28-January 07 From: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia Member No.: 3,402 |
stupid ***** chinese/japanese ref.
***** obvious hes cheating |
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Mar 26 2008, 06:12 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
QUOTE (jefri91 @ Mar 26 2008, 05:58 PM) stupid ***** chinese/japanese ref. ***** obvious hes cheating OOOoo. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) ..be carefull with the f-word.. Thanks for the info. I hope we'll see the usual asian suspects plus some new fresh teams. Any Asian player ready for Milan. Btw. had Milan ever any Asian in their team? |
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Mar 26 2008, 06:17 PM
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"Durgle The Turtle" Group: Helpers Posts: 1,583 Joined: 28-January 07 From: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia Member No.: 3,402 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 26 2008, 05:12 PM) OOOoo. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) ..be carefull with the f-word.. Thanks for the info. I hope we'll see the usual asian suspects plus some new fresh teams. Any Asian player ready for Milan. Btw. had Milan ever any Asian in their team? Qahtani and Younis are pretty good forwards in Asia but theres also other good players like Nashat Akram who fits English play very well. |
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Mar 26 2008, 06:21 PM
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"Durgle The Turtle" Group: Helpers Posts: 1,583 Joined: 28-January 07 From: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia Member No.: 3,402 |
Also Noor Sabri is a pretty good young GK
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Mar 31 2008, 05:53 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,627 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 1,660 |
i hope canada qualifies (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Mar 31 2008, 11:56 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
QUOTE (Bluesummers @ Mar 31 2008, 05:53 AM) i hope canada qualifies (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Is Canada any good? The only players I know are Radzinski and Jazic. But they're old,.. |
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Mar 31 2008, 05:36 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
Paul Stalteri and Iain Hume are both Canadian, the only ones I know of in England. I'd have thought Stalteri would certainly be in the first team, dunno about Hume though since he plays for Leicester.
I think it's difficult for many teams to qualify from that region since I believe they only get 3 spaces. Mexico/USA are almost certain to make it. |
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Mar 31 2008, 06:16 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
^ Stalteri, exactly! I know him of the Andi Herzog day's of Werder Bremen. One more player I've remembered is ex-Hannover midfielder Julian De Guzman, probably Canada's best player. Yay for us, we've managed to name 5 Canadian players! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Mar 31 2008, 07:51 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 31 2008, 05:16 PM) ^ Stalteri, exactly! I know him of the Andi Herzog day's of Werder Bremen. One more player I've remembered is ex-Hannover midfielder Julian De Guzman, probably Canada's best player. Yay for us, we've managed to name 5 Canadian players! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Mar 31 2008, 08:07 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
Well done, namers of Canadian players!
In honor of your achievement, the fish doll offers you cookies in the shape of elk. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif) |
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Mar 31 2008, 08:25 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 6-March 08 From: Canada Member No.: 3,763 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 31 2008, 05:16 PM) ^ Stalteri, exactly! I know him of the Andi Herzog day's of Werder Bremen. One more player I've remembered is ex-Hannover midfielder Julian De Guzman, probably Canada's best player. Yay for us, we've managed to name 5 Canadian players! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) edgar is a decent U20 CB/LB. he scored on his debut newcastle against the "mighty reds" (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Mar 31 2008, 08:30 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 6-March 08 From: Canada Member No.: 3,763 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Mar 31 2008, 10:56 AM) Is Canada any good? The only players I know are Radzinski and Jazic. But they're old,.. they have the potential to keep up with the likes of USA but they always fail (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) at the gold cup last summer played really well aaginst them in the smie finals and eventually lost although the refs hardly helped (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) explain to me how this isnt a red card... http://youtube.com/watch?v=w8Kt7eNSwYA and canada scored a perfectly good equalizer in 2nd half injury time which was disallowed This post has been edited by Habitant: Mar 31 2008, 08:43 PM |
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Mar 31 2008, 08:35 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
Didn't Canada just beat Mexico in...ack, some competition or another? The U21s perhaps?
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Mar 31 2008, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE (arivanjj @ Feb 6 2008, 10:19 AM) all discussion here! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Damn. I thought it was an English member who opened the thread. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) |
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Mar 31 2008, 09:51 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 6-March 08 From: Canada Member No.: 3,763 |
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Apr 2 2008, 04:29 AM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,627 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 1,660 |
QUOTE (Porty @ Mar 31 2008, 02:46 PM) Damn. I thought it was an English member who opened the thread. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) owned |
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Jun 1 2008, 10:15 AM
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7th Heaven Group: Helpers Posts: 7,116 Joined: 2-November 05 From: Sydney. Australia. Member No.: 821 |
QUOTE (Porty @ Apr 1 2008, 06:46 AM) Damn. I thought it was an English member who opened the thread. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Aus 1 - 0 Iraq (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) ... so many chances for Iraq, should've won comfortably |
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Jun 2 2008, 07:05 PM
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"Durgle The Turtle" Group: Helpers Posts: 1,583 Joined: 28-January 07 From: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia Member No.: 3,402 |
QUOTE (arivanjj @ Jun 1 2008, 09:15 AM) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Aus 1 - 0 Iraq (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif) ... so many chances for Iraq, should've won comfortably (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
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Jun 2 2008, 09:32 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,627 Joined: 19-April 06 Member No.: 1,660 |
go canada! You bettta qualify or 1000 laps/pushups/situps/burpees/ladder steps/lines/knee juggles/foot juggles/ head juggles/shots/crosses/passes/toe ball touches.
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Jun 14 2008, 06:06 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
Iraq defeated China 2-1 and are on their way to qualifying for 2010.
The fish doll gives Ari a cookie. Well done to Iraq! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif) |
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Jun 14 2008, 07:03 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
Isn't Iraq suspended from International competition? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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Jun 14 2008, 07:06 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
The suspension has been lifted. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Jun 15 2008, 10:07 PM
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Giovanissimi Regionali B Group: Full Members Posts: 1,393 Joined: 6-April 08 Member No.: 3,827 |
Paraguay 2:0 Brazil (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Santa Cruz scored the first goal, wouldn't that be sweet if they didn't make it to the WC? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Jun 15 2008, 10:08 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
Paraguay went down to 10 men at 1-0 as well. Congrats Paraguay. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Jun 15 2008, 11:55 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
Gosh. That's two games they've lost in a short period to teams that...shouldn't beat them. Sorry I missed that one.
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Jun 16 2008, 12:17 AM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Full Members Posts: 2,978 Joined: 6-March 08 From: Canada Member No.: 3,763 |
QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 15 2008, 09:07 PM) Paraguay 2:0 Brazil (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Santa Cruz scored the first goal, wouldn't that be sweet if they didn't make it to the WC? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) cant say i'd be disappointed. i'd probably have a laugh or two then move on. I think they've become a victim of their own success, and think teams will just roll over and accept defeat just cuz they wear the yellow and green. missing the world cup would certainly bring them back to earth i remember before the last world cup my neighbor wife (who's Brazilian) said that back home they were already selling jersey with he 6th star (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) it would also be sweet if italy won it again and tied them (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) for a while now they've been considered the greatest and most successful football nation. |
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Jun 16 2008, 12:22 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
Brazil won't miss the World Cup. Brazil will NEVER miss a World Cup in my opinion.
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Jun 16 2008, 12:23 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 16 2008, 12:07 AM) Paraguay 2:0 Brazil (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Santa Cruz scored the first goal, wouldn't that be sweet if they didn't make it to the WC? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) They will qualify. I think they've never failed to qualify for the WC. And they had many more problems back in that beginning of the decade. I want them to be there. I dislike the football they play (too many fanfares for my taste) but there are some players I like and also the best player in the world, Kaka! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Jun 16 2008, 01:10 AM
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CrAzY EyeS Group: Helpers Posts: 5,334 Joined: 25-February 08 From: Trinidad Member No.: 3,723 |
Pato will proberly make WC2010 squad too... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
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Jun 16 2008, 01:15 AM
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CrAzY EyeS Group: Helpers Posts: 5,334 Joined: 25-February 08 From: Trinidad Member No.: 3,723 |
Mike, try to find a neat duck for the clickable smilies!
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Jun 16 2008, 08:55 AM
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Primavera Group: Helpers Posts: 18,058 Joined: 9-February 06 Member No.: 1,265 |
QUOTE (dst @ Jun 16 2008, 02:53 AM) I want them to be there. I dislike the football they play You dislike... Samba football? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I admit Brazil has played awful football under Dunga so far, but when they play the football they are famous for, no other team in the world comes close to the Selecao imo. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) I hope they throw Dunga out for the 2010 WC. |
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Jun 16 2008, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE (dst @ Jun 15 2008, 04:03 AM) Isn't Iraq suspended from International competition? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) that was just Fifa being bored (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) |
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Jun 16 2008, 01:07 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (zdrossoneri @ Jun 16 2008, 10:55 AM) You dislike... Samba football? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) I admit Brazil has played awful football under Dunga so far, but when they play the football they are famous for, no other team in the world comes close to the Selecao imo. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) I hope they throw Dunga out for the 2010 WC. More than you think. I'm disgusted by their exhibitionism, ostentation and inefficacy. Robinho is the perfect example of how you can make football look cheap... The best football I've ever seen on international level is by Argentina. Their game is all about expedience, that's what I like, even if they don't win. In my opinion, simple football is the hardest football to play. But I never supported them either. QUOTE (arivanjj @ Jun 16 2008, 12:56 PM) that was just Fifa being bored (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) The rules are strict about not governmental interference with athletics... |
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Jun 16 2008, 02:00 PM
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Loves Greek Women esp Fay Group: Moderators Posts: 14,924 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Bangalore,India Member No.: 1,865 |
^^
Just ask Kuwait about it. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I kinda liked Total Football myself. It was the only time I ever liked Cryuff . This was before my time, but I still saw videos. |
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Jun 16 2008, 04:20 PM
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I too think Brazil will never miss the WC considering the part of world they live in! But I think their football have changed, most people think about the 70's Brazil when they talk about Brazilian football, the thing is this football is becoming a legend, I've personally never seen a convincing Brazilian side, even in 1994 their football wasn't that spectacular. Actually I think we'll ever see total football again (never understood why people say that Cruijff invented it, while the Brazilians played it before him!) considering nowadays financial aspect of the game!
QUOTE (Habitant @ Jun 16 2008, 12:17 AM) it would also be sweet if italy won it again and tied them (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) for a while now they've been considered the greatest and most successful football nation. Honestly I think Italy is going to struggle at least for the next 12 years, after this generation there's no real Italian talent ... |
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QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 16 2008, 06:20 PM) I've personally never seen a convincing Brazilian side, even in 1994 their football wasn't that spectacular. Even in 1994? I think you don't remember well... that was the most defensive Brazilian team ever. QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 16 2008, 06:20 PM) (never understood why people say that Cruijff invented it, while the Brazilians played it before him!) When was that? I've seen old games of many legendary teams. I've never seen football played as Total-y as by that Dutch team! QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 16 2008, 06:20 PM) Honestly I think Italy is going to struggle at least for the next 12 years, after this generation there's no real Italian talent ... I'm not so sure about that. |
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Jun 16 2008, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Jun 16 2008, 04:42 PM) Even in 1994? I think you don't remember well... that was the most defensive Brazilian team ever. No, they had a balanced team not particularly defensive, remmeber the game against the Dutch, but for a Brazilian team yes it was catenaccio (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I think Dunga's Brazil is 2 times more defensive though! QUOTE (dst @ Jun 16 2008, 04:42 PM) When was that? I've seen old games of many legendary teams. I've never seen football played as Total-y as by that Dutch team! What about the 70's Brazil, for me they're the definition of total football, they were playing with 2 defenders (+ maybe a DM) and the rest of the players were all offensive! I think what makes Cruijff's team spectacular is the pace of the passes and the execution plus the 3 attackers, I don't think football's world used to see that ... |
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Jun 16 2008, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Jun 16 2008, 03:42 PM) I'm not so sure about that. I know a full international team is made of a a few players from various 'generations' of the Under 21s, but the Italian team at the last U21 Championsip was embarassingly bad, so I think they'll struggle for the next 6/8 years, unless some of these players drastically improve - Pretty much only Chiellini that was even worth mentioning, Aquilani was okay too. |
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Jun 16 2008, 06:25 PM
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So an embarrassingly bad team drew 3-3 with the England U21s in the first big game at the new Wembley?
I was rather impressed with the U23s (who we'll see again at the Olympics) - except the strikers. In fairness to them, however, the first two choices were hurt. The U19s, so I'm told, are where the real talent is. These guys will play in the final phase of the Euro U19 tournament later on this summer. |
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Jun 16 2008, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 16 2008, 07:48 PM) What about the 70's Brazil, for me they're the definition of total football, they were playing with 2 defenders (+ maybe a DM) and the rest of the players were all offensive! That's not what total football is. QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 16 2008, 08:02 PM) I know a full international team is made of a a few players from various 'generations' of the Under 21s, but the Italian team at the last U21 Championsip was embarassingly bad, so I think they'll struggle for the next 6/8 years, unless some of these players drastically improve - Pretty much only Chiellini that was even worth mentioning, Aquilani was okay too. There is De Rossi, Aquilani, Buffon, Cassano, Chiellini, Balotelli to build a team around. We'll see... |
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Jun 16 2008, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Jun 16 2008, 07:45 PM) That's not what total football is. What is total football, a defender playing as a striker?! please! It's all about departments in my opinion, defence-midfield-attack , the midfielders cover for the defenders and the attackers for the midfielders, and that's what the 70's Brazil were doing, since everyone goes for the attack other players have to cover for them or swap positions if you prefer ... of course they never came out and said that they invented a new and entertaining football! |
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Jun 16 2008, 08:45 PM
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QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 16 2008, 10:33 PM) It's all about departments in my opinion, defence-midfield-attack , the midfielders cover for the defenders and the attackers for the midfielders, and that's what the 70's Brazil were doing, since everyone goes for the attack other players have to cover for them or swap positions if you prefer ... of course they never came out and said that they invented a new and entertaining football! That's what it is... but honestly... where was that in 70's Brazil?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I can't say I've seen many games of them but this was not done in any of those games. That Brazil in my opinion was just a great attacking team. This post has been edited by dst: Jun 16 2008, 08:46 PM |
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Jun 16 2008, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Jun 16 2008, 08:45 PM) That's what it is... but honestly... where was that in 70's Brazil?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) I can't say I've seen many games from them but this was not done in any of them. That Brazil in my opinion was just a great attacking team. They were an attacking team but if you attack like they did you leave space behind and other players have to come back to cover for them, the thing happens naturally they just don't talk about it or name it, how many times Pele was playing in the midfield and Socrates as a DM/CB ... |
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Jun 16 2008, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Jun 16 2008, 06:42 PM) When was that? I've seen old games of many legendary teams. I've never seen football played as Total-y as by that Dutch team! The Dutch team with MVB and co. Now that was a team !! The Dutch trinity (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) |
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Jun 16 2008, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 16 2008, 10:50 PM) They were an attacking team but if you attack like they did you leave space behind and other players have to come back to cover for them, the thing happens naturally they just don't talk about it or name it, how many times Pele was playing in the midfield and Socrates as a DM/CB ... There's great cover-up in football today too but there's no total football. |
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Jun 16 2008, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Jun 16 2008, 09:40 PM) There's great cover-up in football today too but there's no total football. Exactly, it's not total football because we don't call it that way, but if take a close look you see that it's exactly the definition of total football, especially up front (the permutations between the striker and wingers, Barcelona, la Roma and many other team play like that. |
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Jun 16 2008, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 16 2008, 05:25 PM) So an embarrassingly bad team drew 3-3 with the England U21s in the first big game at the new Wembley? I never said the England Under 21s were any good though? What happened at the European Championships last summer? They went out in the group stages, in a relatively weak group involving England and Serbia. I only really rated Chiellini and Aquilani from that bunch.. and I don't know of any other players around the ages of 21/23 who're coming through that can really step into a starting role at the next World Cup - Italy won't be able to rely on Toni, Inzaghi and Del Piero up front, that's for sure. |
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Jun 16 2008, 10:13 PM
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(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Kurt you doubt the ability of next generation of Italian players. Italy won the recent U23 tournament and that squad did not even include Acquafresca, Rossi, Montolivio, Criscito and Santacroce among established stars such as Nocerino, Giovinco, Cigarini, De Silvestre etc etc etc
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Jun 16 2008, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 16 2008, 11:55 PM) Exactly, it's not total football because we don't call it that way, but if take a close look you see that it's exactly the definition of total football, especially up front (the permutations between the striker and wingers, Barcelona, la Roma and many other team play like that. Exactly!?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) My point was that certain characteristics might confuse when it comes to the status of a subject... I mean that while there's great cover-up in football today that does not mean there's 'Total Football' (the way Cruijff meant it) played from any team... same with 70's Brazil. In my opinion their football was distinctively different to Cruijff's Holland's football. Anyway... I don't see us getting anywhere with this so there's no point going on. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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Jun 16 2008, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Jun 16 2008, 09:13 PM) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Kurt you doubt the ability of next generation of Italian players. Italy won the recent U23 tournament and that squad did not even include Acquafresca, Rossi, Montolivio, Criscito and Santacroce among established stars such as Nocerino, Giovinco, Cigarini, De Silvestre etc etc etc Forgive me for not getting excited about a tournement that involved Chile, Japan, USA and the Ivory Coast. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Did Holland and France even take any of their decent players either? |
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Jun 16 2008, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 17 2008, 12:22 AM) Forgive me for not getting excited about a tournement that involved Chile, Japan, USA and the Ivory Coast. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jun 17 2008, 12:22 AM) Did Holland and France even take any of their decent players either? Who would they take, Gomis!?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
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Jun 16 2008, 10:38 PM
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Giovanissimi Nazionali Group: Moderators Posts: 2,700 Joined: 22-October 05 From: US of A Member No.: 703 |
us 8 - 0 barbados
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Jun 16 2008, 11:56 PM
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If memory serves, the French did field a relatively strong lineup for the Toulon tournament. I'm with whoearthepatriots on this one: the kids were good and half the 'first team' for that age group wasn't even there. What I understand from the bits and pieces I see about the U19 and U17 age groups indicates that there are some pretty remarkable talents in those ages. So really, I'm not too terribly worried about Italy's future. (especially since in about 6 years, young Christian Maldini should hopefully start showing up in the U19s. if he can slide tackle as well as his kid brother, we'll be in good shape) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif)
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Jun 17 2008, 12:12 AM
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I think it's difficult to project further than 6 years into the future, as the players that will be coming into the NTs at that point will only be around 16 now. And it's hard to say how these players will fit into a top league at that age. I think all the usual suspects will still probably be at the top though.
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Jun 17 2008, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE (dst @ Jun 16 2008, 10:16 PM) Exactly!?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) My point was that certain characteristics might confuse when it comes to the status of a subject... I mean that while there's great cover-up in football today that does not mean there's 'Total Football' (the way Cruijff meant it) played from any team... same with 70's Brazil. In my opinion their football was distinctively different to Cruijff's Holland's football. Anyway... I don't see us getting anywhere with this so there's no point going on. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) What Cruijff was all about the movement (I'm a winger but move to the centre to disturb the balance of the other team) in fact it's not Cruijff who supposedly invented total football but Ajax school. But you're probably right , this is going nowhere ... QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 16 2008, 11:56 PM) If memory serves, the French did field a relatively strong lineup for the Toulon tournament. I'm with whoearthepatriots on this one: the kids were good and half the 'first team' for that age group wasn't even there. What I understand from the bits and pieces I see about the U19 and U17 age groups indicates that there are some pretty remarkable talents in those ages. So really, I'm not too terribly worried about Italy's future. (especially since in about 6 years, young Christian Maldini should hopefully start showing up in the U19s. if he can slide tackle as well as his kid brother, we'll be in good shape) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/96.gif) No, France's player were actually the real U21 while the other nations field up there Olympics team (that's why they were always beaten physically), so technically it wasn't their strongest line up ... I think their Olympic team was playing a tournament in Holland, in fact I saw a game between France and Holland (ended 2-0 for the French) at the same time as the Toulon tournament! |
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Jun 17 2008, 01:02 AM
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No one knows what'll happen in the future. Just sit down and watch it happen... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
QUOTE (morgoth @ Jun 17 2008, 02:43 AM) What Cruijff was all about the movement (I'm a winger but move to the centre to disturb the balance of the other team) in fact it's not Cruijff who supposedly invented total football but Ajax school. But you're probably right , this is going nowhere ... I guess we've been talking about different things all along. I'm not asking who invented it, I'm just saying that Cruijff's Holland played the... total 'Total Football'! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) 70's Brazil had some aspects of it in their game but if the former is what is then the latter is not what it is... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) does that make sense? This post has been edited by dst: Jun 17 2008, 01:03 AM |
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Jun 17 2008, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Jun 17 2008, 01:02 AM) I guess we've been talking about different things all along. I'm not asking who invented it, I'm just saying that Cruijff's Holland played the... total 'Total Football'! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) 70's Brazil had some aspects of it in their game but if the former is what is then the latter is not what it is... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) does that make sense? No! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) From Cruijff definition of total football it seems to me that nowadays everyone plays that way, and especially the 70's Brazil! Oh and I know you weren't talking about who invented it, I just wanted to say that because the aggorant Cruijff thinks he did and always seems to take credit for it (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
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Jun 19 2008, 07:28 PM
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Some results from last night (and the night before).
Uruguay 6 – 0 Peru Forlan 8' [1-0] Forlan 38' (pen.) [2-0] Forlan 57' [3-0] Bueno 61' [4-0] Bueno 69' [5-0] Abreu 90' [6-0] Bolivia 4 – 2 Paraguay Botero 23' [1-0] GarcÃa 25' [2-0] Santa Cruz 66' [2-1] Botero 70' [3-1] Moreno Martins 76' [4-1] Valdez 82' [4-2] Ecuador 0 – 0 Colombia Brazil 0 – 0 Argentina This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Jun 19 2008, 07:34 PM |
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Jun 19 2008, 07:30 PM
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Bolivia beat Paraguay...? And 4-2 at that... What a shame. I'm a fan of Santa Cruz. He is too good for them.
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Jun 19 2008, 07:31 PM
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(But didn't Paraguay recently beat Brazil?)
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Jun 19 2008, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 19 2008, 06:31 PM) (But didn't Paraguay recently beat Brazil?) Yes, with 10 men as well. QUOTE CONMEBOL STANDINGS Paraguay - played 6 - points 13 Argentina - played 6 - points 11 Colombia - played 6 - points 10 Brazil - played 6 - points 9 Uruguay - played 6 - points 8 Venezuela - played 5 - points 7 Chile - played 5 - points 7 Ecuador - played 6 - points 5 Bolivia - played 6 - points 4 Peru - played 6 - points 3 -Top 4 teams qualify straight for the 2010 World Cup Finals -5th placed team has a two-legged playoff vs CONCACAF team (North/Central America) This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Jun 19 2008, 07:36 PM |
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Jun 19 2008, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Jun 19 2008, 12:31 PM) (But didn't Paraguay recently beat Brazil?) That makes this result even harder to bear. |
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Jun 22 2008, 10:24 AM
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Australia are playing at home to China at the moment, 25 minutes to go, China lead 1-0.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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Jun 22 2008, 10:34 AM
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Penalty to China.. and he put it wide!
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Jun 22 2008, 12:00 PM
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Australia are already through and some of their first team players didn't play including Mark Schwarzer.
Iraq need a win or a draw to go through to the next stage later tonight (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Jun 22 2008, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE (arivanjj @ Jun 22 2008, 02:00 PM) Australia are already through and some of their first team players didn't play including Mark Schwarzer. ??? So soon? |
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Jun 22 2008, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE (dst @ Jun 22 2008, 08:32 PM) ??? So soon? Yes, they qualified from the Asia region this time around. Which for a team like Australia is easy as anything. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) |
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Jun 22 2008, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE (arivanjj @ Jun 22 2008, 12:00 PM) Australia are already through and some of their first team players didn't play including Mark Schwarzer. Iraq need a win or a draw to go through to the next stage later tonight (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) That means Kalac was on goal? But..do they ahave to play 2 more matches with one South American squad (5th)? |
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Jun 22 2008, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Jun 19 2008, 11:30 PM) Bolivia beat Paraguay...? And 4-2 at that... What a shame. I'm a fan of Santa Cruz. He is too good for them. So am I. He easily slides into my my Top 10 favorite player's list. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The problem is only Valdez and him are worth their place in the Paraguay side. |
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Jun 22 2008, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Jun 22 2008, 12:29 PM) So am I. He easily slides into my my Top 10 favorite player's list. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The problem is only Valdez and him are worth their place in the Paraguay side. I have been a fan of him ever since the first time I saw him play for Bayern and that was many years ago. The kid was special you could tell. His dribbling, ball control, eye for goal... He could have turned out to be a world class forward if he was not hampered by injuries every other day. It was really sad to see him get older and older and hardly ever get some consistent play time. But I'm glad he proved his worth in Blackburn. He is too good for them too, but I think it's a trade off he has to accept because of his constant injuries. |
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Jun 22 2008, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 22 2008, 05:53 PM) That means Kalac was on goal? But..do they ahave to play 2 more matches with one South American squad (5th)? No. The 5th South American team has a playoff with a team from the North/Central American regions now. |
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Jun 22 2008, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE (KillerMax @ Jun 23 2008, 12:41 AM) I have been a fan of him ever since the first time I saw him play for Bayern and that was many years ago. The kid was special you could tell. His dribbling, ball control, eye for goal... He could have turned out to be a world class forward if he was not hampered by injuries every other day. It was really sad to see him get older and older and hardly ever get some consistent play time. But I'm glad he proved his worth in Blackburn. He is too good for them too, but I think it's a trade off he has to accept because of his constant injuries. Exactly. I've been a fan of him since the turn of the century (2000-2001), much before his days at Bayern. He's one of those exotic players in an average team. I remember Santa Cruz saying Milan was his dream club, and he'd welcome a call from Milan, and of course no one heard. What we got was Oliveria and another season of Gila. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) We should have tried and spent 10 or so million on him, and played him when our first choice attack was injured. Which was more than half of the season. Result? UEFA Cup is a reality. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Would he been a top choice? No. But still he isn't over rated, and could have improved a ton playing in the Milan system. Oh, well, dream mode off. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
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Jun 22 2008, 11:01 PM
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7th Heaven Group: Helpers Posts: 7,116 Joined: 2-November 05 From: Sydney. Australia. Member No.: 821 |
QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jun 23 2008, 03:53 AM) That means Kalac was on goal? no he has retired. |
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Jul 12 2008, 07:05 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
Didn't really know where to post it..
Carlos Queiroz has left the assistant manager position at United to become the new Portugal head coach. |
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Jul 12 2008, 07:13 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Jul 12 2008, 07:05 PM) Didn't really know where to post it.. Carlos Queiroz has left the assistant manager position at United to become the new Portugal head coach. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I have a very low opinion on Queiroz. It's a bad choice for Portugal. |
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Jul 20 2008, 10:16 PM
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Allievi Nazionali Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388 |
- Moved.
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Aug 12 2008, 10:26 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
With the recent trouble in Georgia, and the WCQs coming up soon, is there a possibility they will have to play their home games in a different country?
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Aug 12 2008, 10:42 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 18,833 Joined: 5-April 06 From: Croatia, Zagreb Member No.: 1,564 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 12 2008, 11:26 AM) With the recent trouble in Georgia, and the WCQs coming up soon, is there a possibility they will have to play their home games in a different country? I think the Dinamo Tbilisi-Austria Vienna match has been cancelled or something like that. But yes, for sure. |
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Aug 12 2008, 11:56 AM
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Allievi Regionali B Group: Helpers Posts: 6,764 Joined: 30-October 05 From: Israel Member No.: 787 |
QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 12 2008, 12:26 PM) With the recent trouble in Georgia, and the WCQs coming up soon, is there a possibility they will have to play their home games in a different country? I think it will be over by then |
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Aug 12 2008, 06:13 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
Germany have announced their call ups for the August 20 friendly v. Belgium(link):
Tor: Rene Adler (Bayer Leverkusen) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif) , Robert Enke (Hannover 96) Abwehr: Christoph Metzelder (Real Madrid), Philipp Lahm (Bayern München), Marcell Jansen (Bayern München), Clemens Fritz (Werder Bremen), Serdar Tasci (VfB Stuttgart), Heiko Westermann (Schalke 04) Mittelfeld: Michael Ballack (FC Chelsea), Thomas Hitzlsperger (VfB Stuttgart), Simon Rolfes (Bayer Leverkusen), Torsten Frings (Werder Bremen), Bastian Schweinsteiger (Bayern München), Piotr Trochowski (Hamburger SV), Jermaine Jones (Schalke 04), Marko Marin (Borussia Mönchengladbach), Lukas Podolski (Bayern München) Angriff: Miroslav Klose (Bayern München), Mario Gomez (VfB Stuttgart), Kevin Kuranyi (Schalke 04), Patrick Helmes (Bayer Leverkusen) La Palma, isn't Marin the kid there's been a good bit of talk about? Other national teams should be announcing call ups in coming days. Italy will announce their callups on the 16th for their friendly v Austria on the 20th. |
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Aug 13 2008, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 12 2008, 07:13 PM) Germany have announced their call ups for the August 20 friendly v. Belgium(link): Tor: Rene Adler (Bayer Leverkusen) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif) , Robert Enke (Hannover 96) Abwehr: Christoph Metzelder (Real Madrid), Philipp Lahm (Bayern München), Marcell Jansen (Bayern München), Clemens Fritz (Werder Bremen), Serdar Tasci (VfB Stuttgart), Heiko Westermann (Schalke 04) Mittelfeld: Michael Ballack (FC Chelsea), Thomas Hitzlsperger (VfB Stuttgart), Simon Rolfes (Bayer Leverkusen), Torsten Frings (Werder Bremen), Bastian Schweinsteiger (Bayern München), Piotr Trochowski (Hamburger SV), Jermaine Jones (Schalke 04), Marko Marin (Borussia Mönchengladbach), Lukas Podolski (Bayern München) Angriff: Miroslav Klose (Bayern München), Mario Gomez (VfB Stuttgart), Kevin Kuranyi (Schalke 04), Patrick Helmes (Bayer Leverkusen) La Palma, isn't Marin the kid there's been a good bit of talk about? Other national teams should be announcing call ups in coming days. Italy will announce their callups on the 16th for their friendly v Austria on the 20th. Yes, he's only 19 years old and is a huge prospect for the creativity department in the NT. A tricky winger with good vision. But he's a bit too weak IMO. Just 1,70 tall and a lightweight. He has to improve there. An even bigger prospect is Bayern Toni Kroos. Probably the best U21 playmaker in the world. Klinsmann is a huge fan of him and it's possible he'll enjoy his breakthrough this year. Rene Adler...he's the future. But what bothers me is that we didn't have a WC CB since Jürgen Kohler retired from international football. That's a huge problem. |
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Aug 14 2008, 11:18 PM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
Here are Spain's call ups:
Spain squad Goalkeepers: Iker Casillas (Real Madrid CF), Pepe Reina (Liverpool FC). Defenders: Sergio Ramos (Real Madrid CF), Carles Puyol (FC Barcelona), Fernando Amorebieta (Athletic Club Bilbao), Andoni Iraola (Athletic Club Bilbao), Raúl Albiol (Valencia CF), Juanito (Real Betis Balompié), Joan Capdevila (Villarreal CF), Fernando Navarro (RCD Mallorca). Midfielders: Marcos Senna (Villarreal CF), Xabi Alonso (Liverpool FC), Xavi Hernández (FC Barcelona), Diego Capel (Sevilla FC), Andrés Iniesta (FC Barcelona), Rubén De la Red (Getafe CF), David Silva (Valencia CF), Santi Cazorla (Villarreal CF). Forwards: David Villa (Valencia CF), Daniel Güiza (RCD Mallorca), Bojan Krkić (FC Barcelona), Fernando Torres (Liverpool FC). |
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Aug 15 2008, 12:03 AM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
Here are Portugal's call ups from the Portuguese FA's site. They've listed players by club.
Atletico Madrid: Simão; Chesea FC: Bosingwa, Deco, Paulo Ferreira e Ricardo Carvalho; Dinamo de Moscovo: Danny; FC Porto: Bruno Alves e Raúl Meireles; Galatasaray SK: Fernando Meira; Málaga CF: Duda; Manchester United FC: Nani; Real Madrid CF: Pepe; SC Braga: Eduardo; SL Benfica: Carlos Martins, Nuno Gomes e Quim; Sporting CP: João Moutinho; SV Werder Bremen: Hugo Almeida; US Lecce SPA: Antunes; Valência CF: Manuel Fernandes e Miguel; VFL Bochum 1848: Daniel Fernandes. |
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Aug 15 2008, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 15 2008, 12:03 AM) Here are Portugal's call ups from the Portuguese FA's site. They've listed players by club. Atletico Madrid: Simão; Chesea FC: Bosingwa, Deco, Paulo Ferreira e Ricardo Carvalho; Dinamo de Moscovo: Danny; FC Porto: Bruno Alves e Raúl Meireles; Galatasaray SK: Fernando Meira; Málaga CF: Duda; Manchester United FC: Nani; Real Madrid CF: Pepe; SC Braga: Eduardo; SL Benfica: Carlos Martins, Nuno Gomes e Quim; Sporting CP: João Moutinho; SV Werder Bremen: Hugo Almeida; US Lecce SPA: Antunes; Valência CF: Manuel Fernandes e Miguel; VFL Bochum 1848: Daniel Fernandes. (IMG:http://www.taganrogcity.com/images/308celebration_salute2.jpg) No Ricardo! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) Therefore we're twice as strong as we were 2 months ago. |
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Aug 16 2008, 02:09 AM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
Here are the call ups from the Netherlands (they play Russia in a friendly)
Netherlands squad Goalkeepers: Maarten Stekelenburg (AFC Ajax), Henk Timmer (Feyenoord). Defenders: Khalid Boulahrouz (VfB Stuttgart), Tim de Cler (Feyenoord), Giovanni van Bronckhorst (Feyenoord), John Heitinga (Club Atlético de Madrid), Joris Mathijsen (Hamburger SV), André Ooijer (Blackburn Rovers FC). Midfielders: Ibrahim Afellay (PSV Eindhoven), Mark van Bommel (FC Bayern München), Orlando Engelaar (FC Schalke 04), Nigel de Jong (Hamburger SV), Rafael van der Vaart (Real Madrid CF), Demy de Zeeuw (AZ Alkmaar). Forwards: Klaas Jan Huntelaar (AFC Ajax), Dirk Kuyt (Liverpool FC), Robin van Persie (Arsenal FC), Arjen Robben (Real Madrid CF), Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink (Celtic FC). (Gosh, Van Bommel, I guess it helps some when your father-in-law is coaching the NT). |
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Aug 16 2008, 02:12 AM
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Token Girl Group: Moderators Posts: 12,435 Joined: 13-November 06 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 2,800 |
And here's the Czech squad:
Czech Republic squad Goalkeepers: Petr Čech (Chelsea FC), Daniel Zítka (RSC Anderlecht). Defenders: Marek Jankulovski (AC Milan), David Rozehnal (S.S. Lazio), Tomáš Ujfaluši (Club Atlético de Madrid), Zdeněk Pospěch (FC København), Zdeněk Grygera (Juventus), Michal Kadlec (AC Sparta Praha), Radoslav Kováč (FC Spartak Moskva). Midfielders: David Jarolím (Hamburger SV), Jaroslav Plašil (CA Osasuna), Jan Polák (RSC Anderlecht), Marek Matějovský (Reading FC), Jan Rajnoch (FK Mladá Boleslav), Radek Šírl (FC Zenit St. Petersburg). Forwards: Milan Baroš (Olympique Lyonnais), Václav Svěrkoš (FC Baník Ostrava), Michal Papadopulos (FK Mladá Boleslav). FORZA JANKU! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif) |
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Aug 16 2008, 02:12 AM
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Prima Squadra Group: Helpers Posts: 30,194 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Birmingham, England Member No.: 3,660 |
Bouma should be there! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif)
I think it's England that the Czechs are playing isn't it? We have a whole summer off, then as soon as the league starts up again, they disrupt it with friendlies. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Aug 16 2008, 02:14 AM |
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