[Nova]

Today is the sixth anniversary of when Carlo Ancelotti took over as Coach of Milan and the 48-year-old hopes to stay for another six years.

The ex-Parma tactician was named as the new Milan boss on November 5, 2001, and he has since gone on to win two Champions League titles and a Scudetto, among other trophies. 

His long-period in charge goes against the norm in Italy, where coaches very rarely stay at one club for longer than four or five years. 

“I did not think it would be possible to remain on the Milan bench for so long,” admitted Ancelotti. “However I am ready to remain here for another six years.” 

The current season has not been an easy one for Milan, and they currently sit in ninth position in Serie A, having still failed to win at home in the league this campaign. 

“Unfortunately we have lost a lot of points at home,” said Carletto. 

“Fourth place does seem far away from us, however there is still plenty of time to recover.” 

Tomorrow the Rossoneri travel to the Ukraine for a tricky Champions League match with Shakhtar Donetsk, and Ancelotti knows it will be far from straightforward. 

“To win there is not impossible, even if we know it is not going to be easy. However Ronaldo has now returned and this is very positive for us,” he concluded. 


source : Goal.com

May he stay with us for a very long time (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Forza carletto ! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

The day Carlo leaves Milan will be a very sad day. He has really done a lot for the club and the team.

May he remain at our bench to guide this team to otehr victories to come (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

[dst]

I like him but he should leave at the end of the season!

[Jack Sparrow]

I like him but he should leave at the end of the season!

I would've seen this coming from a lot of people on the forum, just not from you...the dark side has clouded you, young Anakin. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

If Carlo leaves, I want it to be his decision. Nobody else's. And I'd like him to coach the Netherlands NT. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[dst]

I would've seen this coming from a lot of people on the forum, just not from you...the dark side has clouded you, young Anakin. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I did not even like him prior to last season and I still don't think he's a great tactician... but he gets the results and that's why I admire his work!

He should leave cause that's just the way it's always been with Milan! If R7 keeps calling on times long gone all the time why can I do so once too!? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

This post has been edited by dst: Nov 5 2007, 04:41 PM

[Rossoneri7]

I did not even like him prior to last season and I still don't think he's a great tactician... but he gets the results and that's why I admire his work!

He should leave cause that's just the way it's always been with Milan! If R7 keeps calling on times long on all the time why can I do so once too!? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I can't help but keep reminiscing on the old times (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

p.s. I don't know, but I believe he will se out his contract with Milan. At least till 2010.

[Nova]

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

I can't help but keep reminiscing on the old times (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

p.s. I don't know, but I believe he will se out his contract with Milan. At least till 2010.

I even believe he will extend his contract (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

And right after he extended his contract I want to take a picture of porty , dst & I_rossoneri's face !!

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by Nova: Nov 5 2007, 04:47 PM

[Zed.D]

lol another six years?! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) :

[Jack Sparrow]

Sure we'll have our own Sir Carlo Ancelotti. Up yours Man U!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Warchant]

I like him but he should leave at the end of the season!

i really really love Carlo...he has done more for our club (both on and off the field) than most people have in our entire history.

but i have to agree with dst here...i think it's time for a changing of the guards.

carlo...you've been great, but it's time for someone else to take the helm.

[Nova]

i really really love Carlo...he has done more for our club (both on and off the field) than most people have in our entire history.

but i have to agree with dst here...i think it's time for a changing of the guards.

carlo...you've been great, but it's time for someone else to take the helm.

Not you too ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[Warchant]

yes...sadly, me too

i don't hate the guy, i'm not pissed at anyone...sometimes you can just see that a coach has run his course.

i'm tired of seeing our players....well, simply not care...we need new life in this team...quickly

maybe if we have a good transfer in january carlo can, again, prove himself

i'm just tired of carlo always having to prove himself in the 2nd half of the season because the team did terrible in the first half.

[Fillipo Simone]

I'm still in for Carlo. I really do trust in this man more then anyone else. The only thing I would agree to is a triumvirate of Maldini-Billy-Carlo or Capello-Maldini-Carlo (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .

This post has been edited by Fillipo Simone: Nov 5 2007, 08:45 PM

[mishie]

another 6 years of Coach Carlo!!!!!........excellent (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
he deserves to rebuild the squad and have a full season with the re-built milan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Zed.D]

Sure we'll have our own Sir Carlo Ancelotti. Up yours Man U!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

You mean Don Carlo Ancelotti ...

Personally I don't have any problem with him staying with Milan as long as Berlu and Galli equip him with a powerful Rossonero army...

[Tennie]

I'm still in for Carlo. I really do trust in this man more then anyone else. The only thing I would agree to is a triumvirate of Maldini-Billy-Carlo or Capello-Maldini-Carlo  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) .

Well, you've already got 3/11 of the Invincibles on the bench: Carletto/Billy/Tassotti. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Adding Maldini in would just make it that much better.

(I fear I've gone over to the dark side too. Love Carletto to death, but I think it's time for him to bump Donadoni out of the Azzurri job and let someone new take over at Milan.)

[Zed.D]

(I fear I've gone over to the dark side too. Love Carletto to death, but I think it's time for him to bump Donadoni out of the Azzurri job and let someone new take over at Milan.)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Don't say that, R7 will commit suicide!

[Fillipo Simone]

(I fear I've gone over to the dark side too. Love Carletto to death, but I think it's time for him to bump Donadoni out of the Azzurri job and let someone new take over at Milan.)

Et tu, Brute?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Tennie]

None of that Latin hooey at me! Or my fish doll will bite! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I won't mind (or complain) if Carletto stays; I just think it'd be a win-win situation all round if he went to the Azzurri and someone new came in. [This is because I think the biggest problem the team's got right now is motivation more than anything. They need someone new in there to motivate them.]

[Portman]

+6 years? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Playing like we're doing at the moment he'll be lucky if he stays for more than 6 months.

-11 in November.

[KillerMax]

Carletto is great. He and Seedorf are very much a like. They are some of the best out there. But they lack motivation against smaller sides. They are very much relaxed and I don't think that's a positive emotion at this time. Carletto is injecting this feeling in the dressing room and this is one of the many problems. There shouldn't be panic. But there should be anger and lots and lots of desire to win every ball and play every game like it's your last. I don't see that that week in week out when we play at home and it's really starting to affect everybody. Especially the fans. Carletto has a big hole in the squad and I blame him for not requesting someone to fill that hole. It's Sheva. He left. We had two of the worst years in the recent past. Instead of a replacement we kept hearing about missed chances with Ibra and Henry. Well, Ancelotti can't field them. So, Carlo should have known and addressed the problem before it was too late. He kept saying he had a complete squad and he keeps repeating that. Well, he doesn't. And Milan, the team as whole and all the fans are suffering the consequences. I want an either demanding Carletto with less relax and more desire, or no Carletto at all.

[kurtsimonw]

I want an either demanding Carletto with less relax and more desire, or no Carletto at all.

I'll settle for that.

[armiss]

worst sub for Carletto would be Jose Mourinho .

This post has been edited by armisse: Nov 6 2007, 09:37 AM

[Rossoneri7]

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) Don't say that, R7 will commit suicide!

Why would I commit suicide ? She didn't say he was sh1t or any of the sorts. She just said that it's time for someone new to come (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Which is totally normal!

Had she said he was cr@p and isn't any good, then that would raise a lot of eyebrows ... As Carlo has already gone into Milan's history books as one of the most successful coaches of all time, along with Sacchi and Capello. Maybe in five or so years time you'll understand. When his successors fail to achieve what Carlo has achieved.

[Zed.D]

Why would I commit suicide ? She didn't say he was sh1t or any of the sorts. She just said that it's time for someone new to come (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Which is totally normal!

Had she said he was cr@p and isn't any good, then that would raise a lot of eyebrows ... As Carlo has already gone into Milan's history books as one of the most successful coaches of all time, along with Sacchi and Capello. Maybe in five or so years time you'll understand. When his successors fail to achieve what Carlo has achieved.

Why are you so rigid on the things I say?! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) [I think you could use some sense of humor sometimes (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ]

Rebuilding the squad is much more reasonable than bringing a new coach. what the hell that new coach can do with the old and depth-less squad we have right now?! he would get fired after two months! so you don't have to tell me about the consequences of bringing a new coach, I know how risky is that! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Our problem is we do not have a perfect squad right now. in both quantity in quality we have problems; [unless you disagree with me on that...] there's no denying in this. Carlo can always bring titles and trophies with a strong and motivated squad at his disposal, if that's what we're after. but if we're after a beautiful and attacking football, I'm afraid he's not the man for the job.

This post has been edited by zdrossoneri: Nov 6 2007, 03:07 PM

[Tennie]

Well, I'm going to disagree, zd. I think that it isn't at all a question of quality -- Milan have quality players, though are lacking in depth -- but rather one of motivation. And that's why I think that getting a motivator in would be a more appropriate solution to the problem rather than a complete team overhaul. The issue of WHO can do this is a very tricky one and this subject has been discussed in depth in other threads.

Also - and this goes back to the old-timer argument - Milan isn't Chelsea (or Bayern or Real). We don't just completely overhaul teams from one year to the next. It's done in a much more gradual process - maybe 1-2 players a transfer window. Do we need more depth? Absolutely. Do we need to fire 8 players and bring in 8 new guys? Not gonna happen.

[Zed.D]

I think we lack quality, and unless we don't count Dida or Kaladze's numerous mistakes in the past two or three seasons, that's true. yes, we 'almost' have a great and quality eleven, but the bench... a team is not formed only by eleven players, there must be quality players also on the bench and our bench does not have such thing [Bonera, Digao, Favalli, Kalac, Simic, Brocchi... all ordinary players] when a key player gets injured [like Ronaldo this season] we start to struggle badly. but if we had a quality backup for him on the bench, we wouldn't go through all these delicate moments.

I'm not saying a new coach would be a bad idea, no. but we must absolutely first build a strong team and then bring a new coach, as I doubt any intelligent coach would accept to work with the squad we have right now.

[Tennie]

I'm not too sure how much we actually disagree, to be honest. I just think we're saying essentially the same thing slightly differently.

I think that - at least for central defense - we've got plenty of quality. We all (okay, especially dst) like to make Kaladze jokes, but the fact is that the guy is generally quite solid and that even the very best defenders can have bad days (Rio and Matrix own goals, etc). I think you underrate guys like Bonera and Simic. We DO need RB/LB reinforcement, which is why I'd love to see Zambrotta come in -- he can play either side with devastating effectiveness.

I agree that we could use someone on the creative side of midfield, if only to motivate the class we've already got there into competition. Maybe a Riquelme, maybe one of the young kids like Veloso (who I really like and not just because he's cuuuuuute) from Sporting.

We ALL (I think?) agree that someone in attack is needed. Milan is a bit toothless right now and that's why we've had 0-0 draws instead of wins.

So...1 or 2 buys over the winter, despite what Galliani says, and another 1-2 in August and we'll be FINE.

However, we're stuck til the transfer windows and /right now/ the issue is, I think, mostly one of motivation. If Carletto can motivate the guys, then great. If he can't, then maybe it's time for someone else to have a go.

[Jack Sparrow]

^^^

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) R7 are you gonna ask her to marry you again?

[Rossoneri7]

Why are you so rigid on the things I say?!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)   [I think you could use some sense of humor sometimes  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ]

Rebuilding the squad is much more reasonable than bringing a new coach. what the hell that new coach can do with the old and depth-less squad we have right now?! he would get fired after two months! so you don't have to tell me about the consequences of bringing a new coach, I know how risky is that!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Our problem is we do not have a perfect squad right now. in both quantity in quality we have problems; [unless you disagree with me on that...] there's no denying in this. Carlo can always bring titles and trophies with a strong and motivated squad at his disposal, if that's what we're after. but if we're after a beautiful and attacking football, I'm afraid he's not the man for the job.

I have a sense of humor, just people who push the wrong buttons all the time don't usually get to see it implemented (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Of course I'd disagree with you, we have the best first XI in the world !!! Maybe we lack quality in depth .. But we have an amazing first team and a winning coach !

Then who is the man for the job ? Schuster (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) And please don't tell me Mourinho, cuz his teams play anything but attacking football !

Bottom line .. This is as dry as it gets, if you don't see eye to eye with what this management is doing, go support another club. Cuz Milan is all about heritage and loyalty. The management wont fire Carlo, the management wont sell Broochi and Favalli! The management wont do all the things you stress on and on about. As Tennie said, maybe one or two transfers, but that is it.

[Rossoneri7]

^^^

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) R7 are you gonna ask her to marry you again?

Now where did I put those divorse papers (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Zed.D]

I'm not too sure how much we actually disagree, to be honest. I just think we're saying essentially the same thing slightly differently.

I think that - at least for central defense - we've got plenty of quality. We all (okay, especially dst) like to make Kaladze jokes, but the fact is that the guy is generally quite solid and that even the very best defenders can have bad days (Rio and Matrix own goals, etc). I think you underrate guys like Bonera and Simic. We DO need RB/LB reinforcement, which is why I'd love to see Zambrotta come in -- he can play either side with devastating effectiveness.

I agree that we could use someone on the creative side of midfield, if only to motivate the class we've already got there into competition. Maybe a Riquelme, maybe one of the young kids like Veloso (who I really like and not just because he's cuuuuuute) from Sporting.

We ALL (I think?) agree that someone in attack is needed. Milan is a bit toothless right now and that's why we've had 0-0 draws instead of wins.

So...1 or 2 buys over the winter, despite what Galliani says, and another 1-2 in August and we'll be FINE.

However, we're stuck til the transfer windows and /right now/ the issue is, I think, mostly one of motivation.  If Carletto can motivate the guys, then great. If he can't, then maybe it's time for someone else to have a go.

For the CB, I’m not sure if we have sufficient force. Maldini’s going to hang boots at the end of this season, so at least one really world-class CB is a must for us.

As for the LB and RB, I think we all agree that Zambrotta must be our priority as he can play in both positions and he is world-class. though my dream transfer for the RB is Dani Alves, world-class, young, Brazilian (!), talented, ambitious, etc. he’s got everything to become our new long term RB. so in defense (CB, LB, RB) we need two to three players.

As for the midfield, I think we are really fine... I mean perfect! they just need motivation (especially Seedorf), we could sign someone, but it’s not that emergency to make it our first priority. [but in case we wanted someone in this position, Diego can be an ideal option]. that guy Veloso, I've never heard of him, he IS good-looking but that's not what we are after, right? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

As for the attack, I think we all agree signing a world-class is a must. it doesn’t really matter who, one world-class striker is needed. Pippo, too, is going retire sooner or later.

So let’s count: 2 or 3 defenders + 1 attacker [+ if possible 1 midfielder] = at least 4 world-class signings in needed. after that, if Carlo still failed to deliver results, then we should go for a new coach, and to be honest Rijkaard is the one I’d like to see in Milan [Mourinho lost my vote!]. The question is, are they going to sign those four players in August? don't even think about it, of course not!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Tennie]

(I think we've got too many Brazilians as it is. We need more Italians. This is, after all, AC MILAN and not AC Rio. And I don't think that being born in Brazil automatically makes you the bestest evereverever. Plus, I don't want to see the rossoneri turn into the crosstown equivalent of the South American All-Star Team currently resident in Milan.)

Veloso is very cute, yes. But he's also the highest-rated player on Sporting's current squad. He impressed at the Euro U21s and the 'Veloso to MU' rumors have been rumbling around the Italian press for a while. There's an interview with him in the UEFA magazine section on uefa.com. Thing is, he plays mostly in the Pirlo role and, well, we've got Pirlo. We need more of an AM type and my fantasy pick would be Aquilani or Montolivo, though I doubt either would leave their club easily.

I also don't agree with the 'minimum 4 major signings'. I think you're overestimating the extent of the problem at Milan.

I also don't think that Frankie is the right guy to replace Carletto, whether in 6 months or 6 years. Rijkaard isn't the best manager of people and that, I think, is why Barca are struggling.

[Zed.D]

I have a sense of humor, just people who push the wrong buttons all the time don't usually get to see it implemented (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
Of course I'd disagree with you, we have the best first XI in the world !!! Maybe we lack quality in depth .. But we have an amazing first team and a winning coach !

Then who is the man for the job ? Schuster (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) And please don't tell me Mourinho, cuz his teams play anything but attacking football !

Bottom line .. This is as dry as it gets, if you don't see eye to eye with what this management is doing, go support another club. Cuz Milan is all about heritage and loyalty. The management wont fire Carlo, the management wont sell Broochi and Favalli! The management wont do all the things you stress on and on about. As Tennie said, maybe one or two transfers, but that is it.

There you again, Mr. biassed! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Our XI is nearly perfect, world-class. but at least you admitted we have not enough quality players on the bench. and I hope you're not thinking having a world-class XI is enough to lead a team to glory, or you would be questioning your N years of football experience! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

As for the coach, OK, my white flag's up there, no Mourinho. but I've always thought Rijkaard belongs to Milan not Barca. he has gained enough experience with Barca, is a successful coach and is a beloved figure between Milan fans, so I want HIM in Milan!

And I have enough trust in the management. stop this go-support-another-club bullsh1t! in fact I believe they exactly knew what would happen to Milan if they don't bring new players, but for some reasons that I don't know of, they did not do anything for it. maybe they're waiting for an era's end. Maldini, Cafu, Serginho, Favalli, maybe Inzaghi... how many more months/years can they go on? the end of this season is the best time for them all to retire! maybe our real transfer market activity starts in August 2008?!... I hope so.

But why you think the management won't sell likes of Brocchi?! do you have any explanation for Oli's loan out? [and we all know he'll never come back]. I bet you used to say "Oli's not going anywhere. our management have put their trust in him, etc"!... sometimes it's not like what you think it is.

[Rossoneri7]

There you again, Mr. biassed!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Our XI is nearly perfect, world-class. but at least you admitted we have not enough quality players on the bench. and I hope you're not thinking having a world-class XI is enough to lead a team to glory, or you would be questioning your N years of football experience!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

As for the coach, OK, my white flag's up there, no Mourinho. but I've always thought Rijkaard belongs to Milan not Barca. he has gained enough experience with Barca, is a successful coach and is a beloved figure between Milan fans, so I want HIM in Milan!

And I have enough trust in the management. stop this go-support-another-club bullsh1t! in fact I believe they exactly knew what would happen to Milan if they don't bring new players, but for some reasons that I don't know of, they did not do anything for it. maybe they're waiting for an era's end. Maldini, Cafu, Serginho, Favalli, maybe Inzaghi... how many more months/years can they go on? the end of this season is the best time for them all to retire! maybe our real transfer market activity starts in August 2008?!... I hope so.

But why you think the management won't sell likes of Brocchi?! do you have any explanation for Oli's loan out? [and we all know he'll never come back]. I bet you used to say "Oli's not going anywhere. our management have put their trust in him, etc"!... sometimes it's not like what you think it is.

Problem is, you think you got it all right don't you (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Oli ?! He was at Milan for just a season !!! He flopped BIG time. Several have flopped over the years at Milan ... Broochi is a part of Milan, he will stay on to keep the sense of heritage and loyalty alive when Maldini retires; he is a good worker and does well when called upon. I don't need your sarcasm of 'N years' BS .. But the only explanation to that is you cant go back farther than 2003 season (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Please spare me the sarcasm (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

They aren't waiting for an end of an era ! It ain't black and white. The management have their philosophy and they will go through with their plans whether the San Siro erupts with disapproval or not.

And about choosing coaches .. How do you know Rijkaard is gonna be a hit at Milan ?! And yes, we lack depth. But that isn't gonna hold the team back from reaching it's objectives. And btw, nothing we talk about here is gonna be transmitted into fact, so in case your still deluded on reality and all that cr@p, I hope you realize most of what you want to happen to this team, wont happen.

This post has been edited by Rossoneri7: Nov 6 2007, 07:15 PM

[misha]

Carletto is great. He and Seedorf are very much a like. They are some of the best out there. But they lack motivation against smaller sides. They are very much relaxed and I don't think that's a positive emotion at this time. Carletto is injecting this feeling in the dressing room and this is one of the many problems. There shouldn't be panic. But there should be anger and lots and lots of desire to win every ball and play every game like it's your last. I don't see that that week in week out when we play at home and it's really starting to affect everybody. Especially the fans. Carletto has a big hole in the squad and I blame him for not requesting someone to fill that hole. It's Sheva. He left. We had two of the worst years in the recent past. Instead of a replacement we kept hearing about missed chances with Ibra and Henry. Well, Ancelotti can't field them. So, Carlo should have known and addressed the problem before it was too late. He kept saying he had a complete squad and he keeps repeating that. Well, he doesn't. And Milan, the team as whole and all the fans are suffering the consequences. I want an either demanding Carletto with less relax and more desire, or no Carletto at all.

+1

Carlo brought with him a new era and his 6 year is definitely a success. I'm grateful for all we won under him, but I think he reached his peak/limit at Milan and we need somebody new, with new ideas, someone that can motivate the players more and take us to another era of big wins and many trophies.

This post has been edited by mishale: Nov 6 2007, 08:06 PM

[Zed.D]

I don't need your sarcasm of 'N years' BS .. But the only explanation to that is you cant go back farther than 2003 season (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Please spare me the sarcasm  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

About the "N years", I just can say it's paranoia since I didn't mean that. I just didn't know how many years you've been supporting Milan so I wrote "N Years".

You're biggest problem is you think being a Milan fan more than some other members, especially me, gives you some goofy advantage or something. how can you brag about it when it's only a matter of being several years older?! don't be so arrogant... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)

For the other topics, I don't have anything else to say. what happens happens. I prefer to wait and see whether the things you always insistently talk about will come true or not.

And yes, we lack depth. But that isn't gonna hold the team back from reaching it's objectives.

Unless their objective is nothing more than reaching the fourth place [which is unacceptable for the best club in the world], of course it's not holding back the team!

[Fillipo Simone]

I think we lack quality, and unless we don't count Dida or Kaladze's numerous mistakes in the past two or three seasons, that's true.

Kala's mistakes in the last 2 or 3 seasons?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) ..he was born making mistakes, I do not recall any season of him without them! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

yes, we 'almost' have a great and quality eleven, but the bench... a team is not formed only by eleven players, there must be quality players also on the bench and our bench does not have such thing [Bonera, Digao, Favalli, Kalac, Simic, Brocchi...

Not true. Which world class player would agree to step into Simic's role? Or Boneras? Strikers and midfielders agree sitting on the bench every now and then, but defenders?? No,...I'm pretty sure that Simic is the best player in the world right now considering his status - he has everything neccessary to be a star player at Parma or Sampdoria, he has experience and quality, but still he agrees to stay with Milan, even after his status in the NT is questionable due the lack of match practice. Do you think Grygera, Ujfalusi, Dainelli, Cordoba, etc. would agree for that kind off role? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

For the mid - yes, we need a dynamic player with "esprit" and quality for the bench,...

I'm not saying a new coach would be a bad idea, no. but we must absolutely first build a strong team and then bring a new coach, as I doubt any intelligent coach would accept to work with the squad we have right now.

I think of exactly the opposite. If we bring a new coach in we should wait with the transfers. We are not like Real - they spent tons of cash befor bringing Capello, who then afterwards demanded some players he likes or needs for his tactics. For example, why buy Joaquin, Robben or a big money winger if we afterwardes sign a coach like Carlo who does not use wingers?? No, no, no,...First coach, then teambuilding around him.

But I would rule that out cause building around Carletto is the best way, in that I'm very sure.

You're biggest problem is you think being a Milan fan more than some other members, especially me, gives you some goofy advantage or something. how can you brag about it when it's only a matter of being several years older?! don't be so arrogant...

Don't accuse R7 of being arrogant. It's just his way of expressing and screaming his support for Milan. We all get arrogant occasionaly but that's just normal.

[Rossoneri7]

About the "N years", I just can say it's paranoia since I didn't mean that. I just didn't know how many years you've been supporting Milan so I wrote "N Years".

You're biggest problem is you think being a Milan fan more than some other members, especially me, gives you some goofy advantage or something. how can you brag about it when it's only a matter of being several years older?! don't be so arrogant... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/puke.gif)

For the other topics, I don't have anything else to say. what happens happens. I prefer to wait and see whether the things you always insistently talk about will come true or not.
Unless their objective is nothing more than reaching the fourth place [which is unacceptable for the best club in the world], of course it's not holding back the team!

again sarcasm... paranoia ? arrogance? is that how ur parents taught u to talk to ur elders!

anyways, u can buy whatever bs u want. i was just trying to show u the light.

This post has been edited by Rossoneri7: Nov 6 2007, 09:48 PM

[bigmacmtl]

again sarcasm... paranoia ? arrogance? is that how ur parents taught u to talk to ur elders!

anyways, u can buy whatever bs u want. i was just trying to show u the light.

he speaks the truth, something you profess to do (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
elder?? LMAO ur what 5-6 years older than him (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Zed.D]

he speaks the truth, something you profess to do (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
elder?? LMAO ur what 5-6 years older than him (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I'm 22. and from what R7's been saying [about being a supporter for [how many years was that?... 17 years?] approximately the beginning of the Berlu era] I suggest he's at least 35yo now. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by zdrossoneri: Nov 6 2007, 10:52 PM

[Rossoneri7]

I'm 22. and from what R7's been saying [about being a supporter for [how many years was that?... 17 years?]] I suggest he's at least 35yo now.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

since I was 7 or 8 ...

Now, if u choose to continue with such sarcasm, not that i give a f2ck at all ... just so i can spare myself the wasted time of trying to explain things to u.

You can take what i say with a toss, or u can indulge in a conversation that has roots and grounds.

p.s. the old, non competitive team won today (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

p.s. the old, non competitive team won today (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

It was a very good win for us, but winning a CL game every now and then doesn't mean we're competitive. Everybody can see we aren't, even you know we aren't. That's why winning Serie A is not a goal of ours.

[Fillipo Simone]

It was a very good win for us, but winning a CL game every now and then doesn't mean we're competitive. Everybody can see we aren't, even you know we aren't. That's why winning Serie A is not a goal of ours.

Every now and then?

[kurtsimonw]

Every now and then?

Yeah. CL is only 13 games (If you go all the way). So a CL game happens 1 of every 4 games in our season. That's every now and then, at least to me.

[Rossoneri7]

It was a very good win for us, but winning a CL game every now and then doesn't mean we're competitive. Everybody can see we aren't, even you know we aren't. That's why winning Serie A is not a goal of ours.

With that comment, it's like you are downgrading the team's win today !! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Whether this team bring us back a trophy or not, we should ALL be grateful for what this team has achieved over the years!!

Don't be so critical to judge, Kurt, cuz this team is full of surprises. Especially now that Ronaldo is back, we definitely have the Key to unlock those defenses.

[Tennie]

Hey!

WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME SIDE HERE!

Let's STOP BICKERING AND INSULTING EACH OTHER and TRY to respect each other's opinions and behave like adults (whether we are or not).

Please don't make me borrow one of dst's angry kitty photos to show displeasure. Those photos scare my fish doll.

[Zed.D]

since I was 7 or 8 ...

Now, if u choose to continue with such sarcasm, not that i give a f2ck at all ... just so i can spare myself the wasted time of trying to explain things to u.

You can take what i say with a toss, or u can indulge in a conversation that has roots and grounds.

p.s. the old, non competitive team won today (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

What the hell is wrong with you, really? what sarcasm do you find in my last post in this thread?

If you really have got problems, go take it out on somebody else. don't ever reply to my posts again [just as much as I'm going to ignore you], you'd be doing both of us a big favor.

This post has been edited by zdrossoneri: Nov 6 2007, 11:22 PM

[Rossoneri7]

yeah yeah .. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

Hey!

WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME SIDE HERE!

Let's STOP BICKERING AND INSULTING EACH OTHER and TRY to respect each other's opinions and behave like adults (whether we are or not).

Please don't make me borrow one of dst's angry kitty photos to show displeasure. Those photos scare my fish doll.

Our cats made a break after the 3-0 win,... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

(IMG:http://www.killsometime.com/Pictures/images/DrunkCat.jpg)

[Tennie]

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Great photo, Fillipo.

[Jack Sparrow]

I always felt Miller Lite was better than Bud Light.

[KillerMax]

I always felt Miller Lite was better than Bud Light.

Have you seen the commercial with Carlos Mencia? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)