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post Oct 25 2007, 11:40 AM
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Nelson Dida was forced to sit out a Champions League game last night, but Susy Campanale hopes it will be the first of many

Not even his own teammates could bring themselves to stand up for Nelson Dida after his farcical theatrics in Glasgow. The reasons behind his ‘injury’ when tapped on the cheek by a Celtic fan prompted endless jokes ranging from “a panic attack” to “the supporter holding a poisonous snake that bit the goalkeeper on the cheek.” Not since Marco Materazzi’s close encounter with Zinedine Zidane has the media enjoyed such comedy speculation. Dida has tried to put it all behind him with an act of contrition – he walked all around San Siro before the warm-up to Sunday’s 1-0 defeat against Empoli and bowed down to the crowd. Is this and his one-match Euro ban enough? No chance.

The truth is that Dida has been a source of constant embarrassment to Milan since the moment he arrived and the Celtic Park incident really was just the final straw. Going all the way back to his fumble at Leeds United, where he let a harmless last-minute shot squirm through his hands, the goalkeeper has had fans shaking their heads in disbelief. Never any good on crosses, dreadful at taking control from set-pieces and generally prone to at least one howler per month, he is not good enough to play for the champions of Europe. To think the Rossoneri could have signed Gianluigi Buffon in the summer rather than stump up more cash for this Brazilian liability!

It’s a shame his Champions League ban was reduced from two games to just one, as he could have taken the time to learn medieval basket-weaving, knitting or meditation – alone time where one can reflect on mistakes. While he has taken a monastic vow of silence over the whole Celtic affair, Dida will have to speak to the media eventually and the first question will be: “What the hell were you thinking?! Aren’t you ashamed of yourself?” He will have no answer, his silence to this point has already spoken volumes.

What’s worse, Dida has now gone from simply not a terribly good player – resting on the reputation created in 2003 by a penalty shoot-out that had more to do with Juventus bottling it than his shot-stopping capabilities – to being an absolute embarrassment. The fans were already jeering him before Glasgow, they are unlikely to forgive him after making the side into a laughing stock the world over. The only reason the Diavolo have put up with him this long is that Zeljko Kalac is even worse. Marco Amelia is already lined up for January and that will be the end of the Dida Comedy Hour.


I have to agree with blog, Dida has been declining for some time now and i hope a replacement is bought in soon
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post Oct 25 2007, 01:54 PM
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Kalac is worse? Every time Kalac played he played really good. Look at yesterday's match. He was one of the reasons why we won.
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post Oct 25 2007, 02:03 PM
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post Oct 25 2007, 03:19 PM
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yes, dida is currently not in the form he used to be...but this article really pisses me off. dida has been a great goalkeeper for both Milan and Brazil. it's pitiful that someone would use this situation to write something about someone they, apparently, have an axe to grind with.
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post Oct 25 2007, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE (jefri91 @ Oct 25 2007, 12:54 PM)
Kalac is worse? Every time Kalac played he played really good. Look at yesterday's match. He was one of the reasons why we won.
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Kalac played two friendlies and played well yesterday, but that dosent mean he is good. Kalac generally speaking is worse than Dida, which is saying something
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post Oct 25 2007, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE (whoarethepatriots @ Oct 25 2007, 10:40 AM)
From a C4 Football Italia Blog
I have to agree with blog, Dida has been declining for some time now and i hope a replacement is bought in soon
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Seconded.

QUOTE (jefri91 @ Oct 25 2007, 12:54 PM)
Kalac is worse? Every time Kalac played he played really good. Look at yesterday's match. He was one of the reasons why we won.
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Exactly.

Kalac has a super game, look what happened to Dida last time he played in the CL. Incident aside, he was still at fault for both goals, people seem to forget that and use the incident as a way of calling it unfair criticism.
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es, dida is currently not in the form he used to be...but this article really pisses me off. dida has been a great goalkeeper for both Milan and Brazil. it's pitiful that someone would use this situation to write something about someone they, apparently, have an axe to grind with.



You took the words right outta my mouth...ooooohhh..it musta been when you were...(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)
Wait that would sound very gay (hope none of y'all listen to meatloaf)

Uhm...seconded.
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post Oct 25 2007, 06:13 PM
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I have to agree with blog, Dida has been declining for some time now and i hope a replacement is bought in soon

You're entitled to your opinion, but absolutely no validation of this article is deserved at all.

She could have expressed her displeasure with a little more dignity, but the suspension was merely an excuse for her to spew such venomous and biased trash ("a source of constant embarrassment to Milan"? Give me a F'n break). She must have an ax to grind in some way that goes beyond the dive.

Absolutely sickening. And this is the second anti-Dida blog to come from the rumor-mongerers this month. If Calcio Italia folded tomorrow, I'd throw a ticker-tape parade.
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ya article was harsh, if dida was that bad over the years he wouldnt be still here. but i do believe it's time to move on, maybe not during the winter transfer but by the summer i think it would be time for him to go.
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Dida made a mistake for which he was punished and for which he asked for forgiveness. I don't think he's not trying... if Milan are damaged by Dida's performances then it's proved they made the wrong choice when they did not buy a new goalie! That's the story and there's nothing more to say about it!

Now I'm not a sexist but this Susy Choosy should stick to making dinner and... -jobs! Who the heck does she think she is bashing Dida like that?
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post Oct 25 2007, 06:32 PM
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Lets throw this Susy Choosy and BMWTaylor together in a ring and settle this.
Maybe throw in a little jell-o too...

Go BMWTaylor!!!
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post Oct 25 2007, 06:36 PM
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Pfft....you've been watching too many Miller Lite ads.

This one would be a no-contest. BMW to win in Round 2 by knock out. 100 bucks.
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post Oct 25 2007, 07:07 PM
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I'm all for buying a new keeper but this article is a shame. The writer is obviously has a problem with Dida from way before the incident.
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QUOTE (mishale @ Oct 25 2007, 06:07 PM)
I'm all for buying a new keeper but this article is a shame. The writer is obviously has a problem with Dida from way before the incident.
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It may be out of frustration more than anything. It's not liked he hadn't made plenty of mistakes before the Celtic game. She may have just had enough, but the timing of it is.. stupid, nothing more.

I think it's a bit pointless to keep going on about something that happened weeks ago, people should drop it now, what's done is done, he made a mistake and apologised for it.
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 25 2007, 08:30 PM)
It may be out of frustration more than anything. It's not liked he hadn't made plenty of mistakes before the Celtic game. She may have just had enough, but the timing of it is.. stupid, nothing more.
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She's just hates him. Saying that 'Dida has been a source of constant embarrassment to Milan since the moment he arrived' and such is bullshit. Dida had a few good years in which he was one of the best keepers in theworld.
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QUOTE (mishale @ Oct 25 2007, 06:35 PM)
She's just hates him. Saying that 'Dida has been a source of constant embarrassment to Milan since the moment he arrived' and such is bullshit. Dida had a few good years in which he was one of the best keepers in the world.
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I wouldn't quite go that far. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

But he hasn't been all bad since he got here.
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Oct 25 2007, 08:39 PM)
I wouldn't quite go that far.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

But he hasn't been all bad since he got here.
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I would. 1of 3 for sure. But nevertheless, we have to buy a new keeper asp. In the last 2 seasons he was really unstable.

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Yep, I remember precisely when Dida, Buffon and Chech were the top keepers a couple seasons ago. And I remember when we faced Inter in the CL, he was simply out of this world. That save on Mihailovic's free kick, I will never forget.
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QUOTE (Warchant @ Oct 25 2007, 05:19 PM)
yes, dida is currently not in the form he used to be...but this article really pisses me off. dida has been a great goalkeeper for both Milan and Brazil. it's pitiful that someone would use this situation to write something about someone they, apparently, have an axe to grind with.
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I totally agree with u there .. Moreover, though Dida recently has been a shadow of his old self .. Still he has a vast wealth of experience that shouldn't go unnoticed. All players go through bad patches and Dida's situation is no different. Except that any mistake he does, will grant the other team a goal .. Yet, he remains a firm favorite at Milan and one of my favorite Gkeepers of all time (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 25 2007, 02:49 PM)
I totally agree with u there .. Moreover, though Dida recently has been a shadow of his old self .. Still he has a vast wealth of experience that shouldn't go unnoticed. All players go through bad patches and Dida's situation is no different. Except that any mistake he does, will grant the other team a goal .. Yet, he remains a firm favorite at Milan and one of my favorite Gkeepers of all time (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)
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^^^

Right, so now that we've all stood behind Dida like one big happy family, can we now go buy Akinfeev...(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 25 2007, 09:49 PM)
All players go through bad patches and Dida's situation is no different.
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His bad patch is lasting over 2 years now. There is time when you just have to know when to step down. He was great ,no doubt, but that player is gone. Cafu was also great, but he's not what he used to be and therefore he's a sub. Same should happen with Dida.
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@Misha .. It's unthinkable for me .. Though I believe he will be replaced maybe this summer or the one after .. He is nonetheless one of the greats (as u said), and his experience is something valuable for any team.

Dip in form over the past two seasons ? Yes, he isn't the same Dida .. But that argument can go in several directions ... Like a Gkeeper's mistake is magnified, whereas a midfielder's mistake is overlooked .. u know what i mean (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

That is all I'm saying
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Oct 26 2007, 12:02 AM)
@Misha .. It's unthinkable for me .. Though I believe he will be replaced maybe this summer or the one after .. He is nonetheless one of the greats (as u said), and his experience is something valuable for any team.

Dip in form over the past two seasons ? Yes, he isn't the same Dida .. But that argument can go in several directions ... Like a Gkeeper's mistake is magnified, whereas a midfielder's mistake is overlooked .. u know what i mean (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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In some positions ,like CB, you can play longer because there, through to less physical demands, you use all the experience the player gained over the years. But no matter in what position you are playing, when it's time to go, it's visible. Of course it's hard for the fans to say goodby to their beloved players, but, as Milan fans, we saw many legends stepping down, and soon maybe our greatest player ever goona leave (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I think our management realized that too and next season a new keeper gonna arrive.
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Oct 25 2007, 09:49 PM)
That save on Mihailovic's free kick, I will never forget.
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That was amazing (and I can't find it anywhere on YouTube)!! The ball was perfectly hit, as high on the right corner as it can get... a little over-hit and it would wedge between the post and the crossbar!
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dida's save i'll never forget was one against ajax...van der vart's shot 5m from goal (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kTTYad-mUD0 , i mean woahhhh
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Good clip, I'd forgotten about this one. Somone should show this to Suzy so-and-so. Embarrassment to Milan since he arrived...my foot!

But if you noticed the face shot towards the end of the clip, it's like...'don't ever me do that again!!'
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QUOTE (pKillerMax @ Oct 25 2007, 11:49 AM)
And I remember when we faced Inter in the CL, he was simply out of this world. That save on Mihailovic's free kick, I will never forget.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=FS2cEgAn1pU

At the 1:52 mark.
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Suzy Campanale(sp?) is just trying to cause controversy, she used to write articles in the mag doing the same thing. She also used to commentate on Gazzetta football Italia and has an annoying voice.
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Really cool sig. And that was a great clip you dug up. i think the song by Simple Plan is really appropriate to the current situation. 'Me against the World'.

He made a mistake, he apologized. This issue is over. I can't wait to see him back.

Is it just me or do all our goalkeepers do better when they're wearing the yellow jersey?
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QUOTE (Jack Sparrow)
Really cool sig. And that was a great clip you dug up. i think the song by Simple Plan is really appropriate to the current situation. 'Me against the World'.
He made a mistake, he apologized. This issue is over. I can't wait to see him back.

Thanks, Jack. He's actually looked more secure in the matches he's played since Celtic. I just hated that Ch. 4 couldn't let the issue die themselves in lieu of that inflammatory blog.

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Is it just me or do all our goalkeepers do better when they're wearing the yellow jersey?

Oh, God, I can't stand those screaming yellow jerseys. The next time Kalac plays in that strip, given his height, they should blast Trini Lopez's "Lemon Tree" over the loudspeakers.

If she's up to the task, the crackerjack translating services of our favorite meaniehead-hating fish-doll magnate are needed here.

[Fabio] Cudicini: ‘Dida? Problema psicologico’

Secondo lei da cosa è dovuto questo rendimento di Dida? Dall’età del giocatore, 34 anni, o è un fattore psicologico?
‘Secondo me non è un problema di età, bensì un fattore psicologico. Dida giocava bene fino ad una stagione e mezza fa, quando aveva 32 anni. Ora ne ha 34 e non può essere peggiorato per l’ età. Dida ha un carattere chiuso ed è un ragazzo sensibile. Quindi fino a quando le cose andavano bene, i piccoli errori non venivano neanche presi in considerazione. Ora, invece, le cose sono peggiorate e le critiche sono aumentate. Poi sono arrivati i fischi dei tifosi e i loro applausi ironici ad ogni sua parata. Dida, secondo me, ha sofferto tutto questo. Il ruolo del portiere è particolare, non può sfogare nulla, trattiene tutto e se le critiche aumentano, entrano in gioco fattori emotivi’.

Contro lo Shakhtar mercoledì sera come le è sembrato Kalac?
‘Kalac mi ha impressionato per la sicurezza, in Champions è stato perfetto. Nelle prese e nelle respinte è stato sicuro. Per il suo carattere estroverso è più facile per lui superare un momento negativo’.

Quindi con un Kalac in ripresa la questione portieri del Milan è migliorata?
‘Secondo me si, almeno uno dei due ora è in condizione’.

Per Ancelotti è una scelta difficile?
‘Ancelotti è un allenatore che ha buon senso. Vede all’opera i suoi giocatori ogni giorno. Qualsiasi scelta tra Dida e Kalac sarà la migliore’.

Dida, però, proprio per il suo carattere chiuso, come potrebbe prendere la panchina?
‘Fossi Dida la prenderei come un incentivo per fare meglio’.

Parliamo della sceneggiata di Glasgow. Cosa è successo al brasiliano?
‘Dida era consapevole degli errori fatti in entrambi i gol, e inconsciamente voleva ridare al Milan quello che prima aveva tolto. Questa è la mia interpretazione’.

Per quanto riguarda le scuse, secondo lei erano dovute o si potevano evitare?
‘E’ un bravo professionista e si è sentito di fare questo. Dida è una persona sensibile. Non lo ha fatto sui giornali e ha pensato di farlo a San Siro, nel suo stadio e davanti ai suoi tifosi. Secondo me ha fatto benissimo’.

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Oh, God, I can't stand those screaming yellow jerseys. The next time Kalac plays in that strip, given his height, they should blast Trini Lopez's "Lemon Tree" over the loudspeakers.


Is this the one that goes..'I wonder how, I wonder why, yesterday you told me about the blue blue sky...'? Isn't it by Fool's Garden? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)



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If she's up to the task, the crackerjack translating services of our favorite meaniehead-hating fish-doll magnate are needed here.


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