[Portman]

Mourinho: Forget England, I Want An Italian Club

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Jose Mourinho has ruled himself out of the runnings for the England national team job. Instead, he restated his desire to work for a club - particularly an Italian one...

Former Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho offered a 'thanks, but no thanks' to those England supporters who had tipped him for the Three Lions hotseat.

Current boss Steve McClaren is under immense pressure in charge of the English national side, with Mourinho rumoured to be a potential replacement.

The 'Special One' himself, however, has nipped such speculation in the bud, first explaining that there's only one international job that would interest him, and then restating his desire to manage a club.

In an interview with English newspaper The News of the World, he said, "I think there are those who adore me in England. I adore English football. But I won't go back there for now.

Nonetheless, the door isn't closed forever on a return to the Premiership.

"I'd like to come back later," he added.

Still, it was clear to see where his desires were focused.

He stated, "I'd like to continue in club management, perhaps in Italy where I can test myself against their tacticians. The national team would be for later.

"The Portuguese national team is an ambition but not for the Jose Mourinho of today.

"Being the coach of a national team is not the same as being coach of a club. It's a job for someone who doesn't like working much."

Adding to his forthright views on international management, the former Porto coach criticised the growing trend for appointing foreign managers as bosses of national sides.

"I'm completely against having foreigners with national teams," he began.

"Not because I doubt the professionalism with which they do it, but I think that a national team should bring together the best players and the best coach from each country.

"The national team is an obsession for me but it will be at the end of my career. Let there be no doubt about that."

Mourinho, 44, has been out of work since his acrimonious departure from Chelsea in mid-September.

http://www.goal.com/en/articolo.aspx?contenutoid=453394

This post has been edited by Porty: Oct 21 2007, 04:20 PM

[Zed.D]

For me, he is welcome at Milan, any time. the team needs motivation and new plans (not old-fashioned ones) and only a coach like him would be able to do such miracle.

This post has been edited by zdrossoneri: Oct 21 2007, 04:47 PM

[armiss]

I prefer Ancelotti anyway

[Ry4n]

I prefer Ancelotti anyway

me to

[Zed.D]

Remember Drogba would follow Mou anywhere. if Mourinho takes Carlo's place, we'll have the biggest chance of signing Drogba (and many other ambitious players not old and finished players like Emerson and Favalli!).

[Guest_fresh_prince7_*]

Mourinho is like the coaches equivalent of ronaldinho. Thinks he's bigger than the club. Never been the biggest fan since he moved to chelsea.

But in saying that, can't go any worse at the moment.

[I_Rossoneri]

I can't remember a more meticulous manager than Jose, IMO he would be a major asset for Milan. We need someone with balls, someone who will demand the top players and someone who can bring harmony to the dressing room - Jose is that man IMO (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[Tennie]

I have really mixed feelings about Mourinho. Is he a good coach? Yes, very. But his public persona (which may be wholly unlike his actual one-on-one personality) is just...icky and classless and not what I've come to expect of Milan's coaches. I worry that it'd be one constant fight between him and Berlusconi if he were to come to Milan. (Porty, did he have any issues with Porto's management when he was there?) He IS good at motivating his players though.

[KillerMax]

I can't remember a more meticulous manager than Jose, IMO he would be a major asset for Milan. We need someone with balls, someone who will demand the top players and someone who can bring harmony to the dressing room - Jose is that man IMO (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

The team doesn't lack any harmony. But balls? They could use a pair. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

@Tennie ... He is one of the best coaches out there. But not to the standards of Milan coaches ... History proves this, this management has always gone for low profile coaches.

I think for Mourinho to come to Milan ... Someone else would have to be president. i.e. someone else has to buy Milan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Who do I prefer out of Carlo and Jose ?! What a silly question to ask myself, of course Carlo (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

[Nova]

He's no coach for Milan

period

[m1ke]

I'd take MvB over Mourinho, even though I think Jose is probably the best tactician out there at the moment. To me, he just doesn't seem like 'Milan'.

[Fillipo Simone]

Carlo, Carlo,..

[Warchant]

i think the fact that he doesn't seem "milan" is the very reason we need him. milan needs to be shaken from its core...this is the guy to do it

if he goes to inter...we are screwed

[I_Rossoneri]

i think the fact that he doesn't seem "milan" is the very reason we need him. milan needs to be shaken from its core...this is the guy to do it

if he goes to inter...we are screwed

Excellent point, thing is that Mourinho would shake things up. Carlo is a yes man and accepts everything while Jose speaks his mind(like Don Fabio (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ) IMO Jose would be excellent for us.

[agenth]

Impossible anyway

Silvio & Jose working together? Very unlikely.

Probably he'll end up with the Merda - God forbid!!!

[Nova]

Jose would be fired the second he doesnt listen to berlusconi or Galliani.

so what's the point in having him cause he's bound to cause trouble.

This post has been edited by Nova: Oct 21 2007, 10:21 PM

[I_Rossoneri]

Why would he cause trouble? because he's not a yes man? Don Fabio wasn't a yes man and look what happened with him - Silvio almost begged him to stay (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Bottom line is that Jose is a winner, while carlo seems to be full of excuses and frankly I've had enough of excuses.

[Rossoneri7]

Why would he cause trouble? because he's not a yes man? Don Fabio wasn't a yes man and look what happened with him - Silvio almost begged him to stay (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Bottom line is that Jose is a winner, while carlo seems to be full of excuses and frankly I've had enough of excuses.

So what r u doing here ?? Go do something about it

[Tennie]

You know...Don Fabio isn't coaching at the moment. He's a former Milan player and he's a very good coach. If there absolutely has to be a change in coach (of which I'm not yet convinced), I think I'd probably pick him.

Mourinho is a very good coach but, as stated above, the public persona issue is a problem IMO, and indicates he may not be right for Milan.

[Nova]

Why would he cause trouble? because he's not a yes man? Don Fabio wasn't a yes man and look what happened with him - Silvio almost begged him to stay (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Bottom line is that Jose is a winner, while carlo seems to be full of excuses and frankly I've had enough of excuses.

Uhm , don Fabio returned in 1997–1998 with Milan and failed .

Jose is not more of a winner then Carlo. He's more of a showman , that I give you. Acting like a b!tch when you lose and always blaiming everyone except himself for his loss. I dont think Milan need that.

But since I'm 90% sure he won't come , im happy. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by Nova: Oct 21 2007, 10:45 PM

[kurtsimonw]

Jose is not more of a winner then Carlo. He's more of a showman , that I give you. Acting like a b!tch when you lose and always blaiming everyone except himself for his loss. I dont think Milan need that.

I'm insulted that you would care someone like Carlo to Jose.

Carlo is better? Carlo has won alot, but Jose has the UEFA Cup, Champions League, Premier League, Portugese League titles to show, and he's hardly an old man. (Remember he won the CL with Porto, not a top team like Milan - no disrespect intended to Porto).

His home record is unebelievable. Carlo's home record.. Well, his current streak is 'Lost 1' compared to Jose's unbeaten in 90-odd games.

Jose is a winner, he competes in everything, no trophy goes un-noticed. With Carlo, he plays backups in some Serie A games, he treats them like friendlies. If we don't win the CL - we'll win nothing (Of real importance.)

I just don't rate Carlo, not anymore, he's clueless.

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Oct 21 2007, 10:52 PM

[I_Rossoneri]

Uhm , don Fabio returned in 1997–1998 with Milan and failed .

Jose is not more of a winner then Carlo. He's more of a showman , that I give you. Acting like a b!tch when you lose and always blaiming everyone except himself for his loss. I dont think Milan need that.

But since I'm 90% sure he won't come , im happy. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Funny because I was talking about the 94 season.

And I'd sooner him act like a b!tch then keep on with the same excuses because excuses are for weak people.

[I_Rossoneri]

So what r u doing here ?? Go do something about it

Please enlighten me with your greatness or are you just too deluded to see the whole truth...

[kurtsimonw]

Please enlighten me with your greatness or are you just too deluded to see the whole truth...

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

[Nova]

I'm insulted that you would care someone like Carlo to Jose.

Carlo is better? Carlo has won alot, but Jose has the UEFA Cup, Champions League, Premier League, Portugese League titles to show, and he's hardly an old man. (Remember he won the CL with Porto, not a top team like Milan - no disrespect intended to Porto).

His home record is unebelievable. Carlo's home record.. Well, his current streak is 'Lost 1' compared to Jose's unbeaten in 90-odd games.

Jose is a winner, he competes in everything, no trophy goes un-noticed. With Carlo, he plays backups in some Serie A games, he treats them like friendlies. If we don't win the CL - we'll win nothing (Of real importance.)

You make me laugh (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) You really like him , dont you ? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

First of all , im not the only one preferring Carlo above Jose. So dont adress it only to me please (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I dont care about his record (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Honestly I dont give a flying sh!t. Carlo won enough with Milan to earn my respect. All I care about is that Milan doesnt end up like a circus.

Dont get me wrong , Im not saying Carlo should stay forever , but compared to this Bozo , I prefer him.

[Rossoneri7]

Please enlighten me with your greatness or are you just too deluded to see the whole truth...

enlighten you ?

It would take ages to get you to see how Carlo steeredan old Milan team into being ranked the #1 team in Europe. Soon to be in the world (after the CWC that is) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Whether ur fed up with him or not ... It doesn't change the reality of things (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[Tennie]

I just don't rate Carlo, not anymore, he's clueless.

Wow. That's a bit harsh. But if you're into harsh, I could make equally scathing comments about Mourinho. I've tried to be diplomatic in this thread but to be honest, I find his persona offensive as h*ll and he's no small part of the reason why I despise Chelsea. Effective? Yes, at winning the English league (which I don't rate as highly as I rate the Italian league). I think his CL win with Porto is much more impressive. But that doesn't mean I'd want him coaching my team.

[kurtsimonw]

I dont care about his record

Carlo won enough with Milan to earn my respect.

All I care about is that Milan doesnt end up like a circus

Carlo has won things so you like him. But because Mourinho's won things with other teams they don't count for anything? Right, got it.

End up like a circus? Dude, we are a circus right now. Dida, Kaladze and Carlo are the main attractions.

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Oct 21 2007, 11:08 PM

[Nova]

Funny because I was talking about the 94 season.

And I'd sooner him act like a b!tch then keep on with the same excuses because excuses are for weak people.

he returned , he failed. The big man with the big balls failed.

So what do you expect Carlo to say ? That his team sucks ? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) No wonder why you like Jose.

[kurtsimonw]

So what do you expect Carlo to say ? That his team sucks ?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) No wonder why you like Jose.

Yes, that is what we expect him to say, it's simple logic!

That's how life is! If you don't tell a worker he's sh!t at his job, he's going to carry on being sh!t at his job. If you don't tell a kid of for doing wrong, he's going to continue to do wrong.

Same with footballers, if they play like crap, and you say nothing, they'll continue to do it, why? because they can!

[Tennie]

Funny, cause Mourinho never blamed his Chelsea players as underperforming. It was the ref's fault, the pitch's fault, everybody's fault but his and his players.

[I_Rossoneri]

enlighten you ?

It would take ages to get you to see how Carlo steeredan old Milan team into being ranked the #1 team in Europe. Soon to be in the world (after the CWC that is) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Whether ur fed up with him or not ... It doesn't change the reality of things (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

Well it seems that the #1 team in europe is far easier to attain than the #1 in Italy. In that respect fairplay to carlo, but i'd prefer Milan to be good in their domestic league even if you don't (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[I_Rossoneri]

he returned , he failed. The big man with the big balls failed.

So what do you expect Carlo to say ? That his team sucks ?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) No wonder why you like Jose.

Funny because again I wasn't on about his return(when Milan were in a demise (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ) I was referring to when he left and Don Silvio almost begged him to stay.

And as for carlo, he talks the same sh!t as galliani so I don't bother to listen to his comments (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Nova]

Carlo has won things so you like him. But because Mourinho's won things with other teams they don't count for anything? Right, got it.

End up like a circus? Dude, we are a circus right now. Dida, Kaladze and Carlo are the main attractions.

Carlo has won things with Milan , thats why I like him. Jose won with chelsea , blank cheque chelsea that is. Im not impressed at all.

So now you're calling Milan a circus , just to defend that arrogant pr!ck?? great respect for our team .

[I_Rossoneri]

Funny, cause Mourinho never blamed his Chelsea players as underperforming. It was the ref's fault, the pitch's fault, everybody's fault but his and his players.

Whereas carlo blames his players (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) as well as refs, pitch etc etc

carlo and galliani are full of excuses.

[I_Rossoneri]

You know...Don Fabio isn't coaching at the moment. He's a former Milan player and he's a very good coach. If there absolutely has to be a change in coach (of which I'm not yet convinced), I think I'd probably pick him.

Mourinho is a very good coach but, as stated above, the public persona issue is a problem IMO, and indicates he may not be right for Milan.

fair point, but IMO Milan need someone with balls someone who wil demand certain players and not keep giving excuse after excuse.

[Rossoneri7]

Yes, that is what we expect him to say, it's simple logic!

That's how life is! If you don't tell a worker he's sh!t at his job, he's going to carry on being sh!t at his job. If you don't tell a kid of for doing wrong, he's going to continue to do wrong.

Same with footballers, if they play like crap, and you say nothing, they'll continue to do it, why? because they can!

Wenger, SAF, Capello, Hiddnik, Lippi, Sacchi, Eriksson, and all the greats that I have yet hear them single out one of their players and complain publicly. Mourinho was the only one whom made all his thoughts clear publicly.

All the greats deal with these kind of things personally. And don't turn their clubs into a 'circus'. He is just an arrogant prick who 'thinks' he is the best.

[kurtsimonw]

Carlo has won things with Milan , thats why I like him. Jose won with chelsea , blank cheque chelsea that is. Im not impressed at all.

So now you're calling Milan a circus , just to defend that arrogant pr!ck?? great respect for our team .

Because Rui Costa, Nesta, Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Gilardino and Rnaldo were all free, right?

Why do people always go to Chelsea? Who gives a f*ck what he did at Chelsea. Surely winning the Champions League with Porto is much bigger of an acheivement than winning it with Milan? No?

I'm calling Milan a circus because they're a laugh stock at the moment, I know tonnes of people that're making fun of them.

Doing it to defend Jose? I believe he's a better manager than Carlo, simple as. Why is it that I'm not allowed to have my own opinion? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

@R7: You don't know Sir Alex at all. He publicly slammed Becks and Stam.

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Oct 21 2007, 11:26 PM

[I_Rossoneri]

Jose is the only man to win back to back prem titles, IMO that is some achievement.

[Rossoneri7]

fair point, but IMO Milan need someone with balls someone who wil demand certain players and not keep giving excuse after excuse.

From what I have become accustomed to i understand that, no voice is higher than Silvio's voice.

[I_Rossoneri]

From what I have become accustomed to i understand that, no voice is higher than Silvio's voice.

I think that Silvio respects people who can win, after all he didn't mind Don Fabio.

It's galliani who likes the yes men (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Nova]

Funny because again I wasn't on about his return(when Milan were in a demise (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ) I was referring to when he left and Don Silvio almost begged him to stay.

And as for carlo, he talks the same sh!t as galliani so I don't bother to listen to his comments (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

He had the best team at his disposal back then. When he returned he failed , while Carlo didn't .

all respect for Capello , but I rate Carlo at least the same as him.


Just accept Jose aint coming to Milan. Im so happy (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

@R7: You don't know Sir Alex at all. He publicly slammed Becks and Stam.

Yes he did ... When they spoke up against him (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Actually he smacked Becks with a football boot .. U know why ?? Cuz SAF made Becks into the player he is today (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

But does SAF come out in public and say well we lost today because I don't have a center back ?! No he played Milan and got royally screwed, both him and his team ... And said 'That was a magnificent Milan' ... I wonder what Jose said the night before (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

I think that Silvio respects people who can win, after all he didn't mind Don Fabio.

It's galliani who likes the yes men (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Galliani is Silvio's mask (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Galliani is the yes man.

[kurtsimonw]

Yes he did ... When they spoke up against him (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Actually he smacked Becks with a football boot .. U know why ?? Cuz SAF made Becks into the player he is today (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

But does SAF come out in public and say well we lost today because I don't have a center back ?! No he played Milan and got royally screwed, both him and his team ... And said 'That was a magnificent Milan' ... I wonder what Jose said the night before (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Yes, he was gracious in defeat against Milan, and what?

Did you read Jose's post-match comments against Villa? What about Liverpool in January? He admitted his team were outplayed, and after the Liverpool game criticised his teams commintment, and their lack of heart.

SAF does come out and blame it on people, he and Wenger are the two most notorious managers in EPL history to blame referee's, they're worse than me!

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Oct 21 2007, 11:38 PM

[Nova]

Because Rui Costa, Nesta, Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Gilardino and Rnaldo were all free, right?

Why do people always go to Chelsea? Who gives a f*ck what he did at Chelsea. Surely winning the Champions League with Porto is much bigger of an acheivement than winning it with Milan? No?

I'm calling Milan a circus because they're a laugh stock at the moment, I know tonnes of people that're making fun of them.

Doing it to defend Jose? I believe he's a better manager than Carlo, simple as. Why is it that I'm not allowed to have my own opinion?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

@R7: You don't know Sir Alex at all. He publicly slammed Becks and Stam.

who says you cant have your oppinion , can I have mine too please ? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Rui Costa, Nesta, Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Gilardino and Ronaldo were all in a timespan of like 8/9 years ? Chelsea was bought together in 2/3 years.

Who cares about porto , it could have even been Monaco to win it , oelala , the great didier deschamps (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[I_Rossoneri]

He had the best team at his disposal back then. When he returned he failed , while Carlo didn't .

all respect for Capello  , but I rate Carlo at least the same as him.
Just accept Jose aint coming to Milan. Im so happy  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

don't speak too soon otherwise it'll be me with all the (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) faces (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

As for carlo, his time was up last season lie I said but the only thing that kept his job was the CL win. Hopefully, after yet another pathetic performance by Milan, he will be gone soon (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Who cares about porto , it could have even been Monaco to win it , oelala , the great didier deschamps  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Yes..

And it could have been Liverpool to win it last year, the great Rafa Benitez.

I honestly don't get what you're saying. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

[Nova]

I think that Silvio respects people who can win, after all he didn't mind Don Fabio.

It's galliani who likes the yes men (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Silvio doesnt seem to fire Carlo (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) why is that ?

[I_Rossoneri]

who says you cant have your oppinion , can I have mine too please ?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Rui Costa, Nesta, Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Gilardino and Ronaldo were all in a timespan of like 8/9 years ? Chelsea was bought together in 2/3 years.

Who cares about porto , it could have even been Monaco to win it , oelala , the great didier deschamps  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

It seems you are only happy with your opinion while you can't take anyone else's into consideration (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

And we spent over £100m in one season with the signings of Rui + Pippo while chelsea spent less than us last season.

Why bring up Deschamps? that's just a pathetic ecuse because you know you're wrong! Porto were mentioned because Jose managed them - or is that to hard for you to comprehend? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[I_Rossoneri]

Silvio doesnt seem to fire Carlo  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)   why is that ?

Yet!

And galliani persuaded him not to last season, do you not remember?

[I_Rossoneri]

Yes..

And it could have been Liverpool to win it last year, the great Rafa Benitez.

I honestly don't get what you're saying.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Don't worry Kurt, most people don't either (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Yes, he was gracious in defeat against Milan, and what?

Did you read Jose's post-match comments against Villa? What about Liverpool in January? He admitted his team were outplayed, and after the Liverpool game criticised his teams commintment, and their lack of heart.

SAF does come out and blame it on people, he and Wenger are the two most notorious managers in EPL history to blame referee's, they're worse than me!

Ur missing the point. SAF, Wenger and the lot .. But don't come out and attack his players in front of the public !! They do it in private with the player/team ..

Whereas, Mourinho thinks differently (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Nova]

Yes..

And it could have been Liverpool to win it last year, the great Rafa Benitez.

I honestly don't get what you're saying.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

sure you get it.


since you dont give a f*ck what Jose did with chelsea and praise him for his achievements with Porto , by your logics , that would make Didier a better coach then Carlo if he won the final with Monaco.

This post has been edited by Nova: Oct 21 2007, 11:48 PM

[I_Rossoneri]

Ur missing the point. SAF, Wenger and the lot .. But don't come out and attack his players in front of the public !! They do it in private with the player/team ..

Whereas, Mourinho thinks differently  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I can't recall when Jose attacked any of his players, but I have heard carlo blame his players. In fact Jose usually tried to deflect attention away from his players and that is why they respected him so much.

[kurtsimonw]

sure you get it.
since you dont give a f*ck what Jose did with chelsea and praise him for his achievements with Porto , by your logics , that would make Didier a better coach then Carlo if he won the final.

What? It's YOU who doesn't care what he did with Chelsea. I see it as a great acheivement, you dissmiss it saying he had a blank cheque.

[I_Rossoneri]

sure you get it.
since you dont give a f*ck what Jose did with chelsea and praise him for his achievements with Porto , by your logics , that would make Didier a better coach then Carlo if he won the final with Monaco.

Dear lord, did it really take you that long to write such nonsense?

[Nova]

Don't worry Kurt, most people don't either (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

"most people" ?

You mean you & porty ? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[I_Rossoneri]

"most people" ?

You mean you & porty ?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

No, the majority of this board actually (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

I can't recall when Jose attacked any of his players, but I have heard carlo blame his players. In fact Jose usually tried to deflect attention away from his players and that is why they respected him so much.

U don't recall ?! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Ok, since u love Jose so much, and u love 'big balls' .. tell me what he said after his last defeat, before he was sacked ?? (Hint: something involving eggs and an omelet)

this wasn't even directed at u, but u all seem to fit into one basket (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Nova]

What? It's YOU who doesn't care what he did with Chelsea. I see it as a great acheivement, you dissmiss it saying he had a blank cheque.

from 25 minutes ago

Why do people always go to Chelsea? Who gives a f*ck what he did at Chelsea

[Rossoneri7]

No, the majority of this board actually (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

U and ur entourage of leaches (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Give me a break. Don't insult the forum with that nonsense (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[I_Rossoneri]

U don't recall ?!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Ok, since u love Jose so much, and u love 'big balls' .. tell me what he said after his last defeat, before he was sacked ?? (Hint: something involving eggs and an omelet)

this wasn't even directed at u, but u all seem to fit into one basket (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Funny because that was directed at shevchenko and ballack, two players he didn't want.

[Rossoneri7]

Funny because that was directed at shevchenko and ballack, two players he didn't want.

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (Ballack wasn't one of them (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )

Give Ancelotti those two players and see what he does with them (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Optimum logic .. And u expect me to enlighten u (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Nova]

No, the majority of this board actually (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

oh no ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[I_Rossoneri]

U and ur entourage of leaches (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)   (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Give me a break. Don't insult the forum with that nonsense (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Is that how you refer to people who don't agree with you? how charming and immature, perhaps someone ought to put your toys back into your pram and shut you up (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

With that I'm off to bed as I've had enough of speaking to children, hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to have an adult conversation on here (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Tennie]

Okay, guys. BASTA.

We've all had our chance in today's rant-a-thon.

It's time to stop when we get around to namecalling.

Let's draw a line on this one and go out for a drink. Maybe dst will do a fan dance for us! (*duck*)

[Fillipo Simone]

Because Rui Costa, Nesta, Shevchenko, Inzaghi, Gilardino and Rnaldo were all free, right?

Why do people always go to Chelsea? Who gives a f*ck what he did at Chelsea. Surely winning the Champions League with Porto is much bigger of an acheivement than winning it with Milan? No?

I'm calling Milan a circus because they're a laugh stock at the moment, I know tonnes of people that're making fun of them.

Doing it to defend Jose? I believe he's a better manager than Carlo, simple as. Why is it that I'm not allowed to have my own opinion?  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

@R7: You don't know Sir Alex at all. He publicly slammed Becks and Stam.

OOOOh gosh!!! You know, I really don't care about people laugh at Milan. You're English, you should be the first to know about this things when it comes to your NT! I knew some people that laugh at Milan in 2002, 2005, 2006 and 2007. Does people will constantly laugh, till they die in their misery. Who gives a damn about them?? Life is full of those unrealized people...

You know what..? I think Milan is superior to Mourinho. Milan is that what Jose needs, not the other way. Do you wanna know why? Cause we have tradition, we ahve history, and we have success. But not that Abramovich-money success, not even the small-town Porto success, no we have permanent success. And if he want's to prove himself once more, he has to make that step.

But I don't wanna see him here. He is a egomaniac and a showman. Capello, Sacchi and all the others had some disagreements with certain players, but none of them said what Jose said to Carvalho or Gallas.

And really, do you like Mourinho's playing style? Do you like his way?

Oh no, no, no, no,... Milan and Silvio Berlusconi are to big for Mourinho. Jose would eventually break and the whole story would be a flop.

If we want someone new, we need an inside man or someone at least near to us. Capello, Lippi,...there are a few options left.

[kurtsimonw]

from 25 minutes ago

I said that because you ignored the fact that he was succesful elsewhere.

U don't recall ?!  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Ok, since u love Jose so much, and u love 'big balls' .. tell me what he said after his last defeat, before he was sacked ??

Jose comments in a recent defeat.

“It was a good game. Villa played well, Chelsea played well in my opinion.

“We made a mistake we shouldn’t make, because at defensive set-pieces we are usually so well organised.

“We were solid in the first half but the match changed after a goal in the first minute of the second half.

“Villa were well organised, they had spirit, they defended well to keep a clean sheet.

“We had complete domination of the game but didn’t score a goal. A point each would have reflected what happened on the pitch but you pay for mistakes, we made our mistakes and I can’t say they didn’t deserve a win because they didn’t make a mistake.”

All I see is him praising the opponents and blaming his own players for a mistake? Either than or I can't read.

[Rossoneri7]

Is that how you refer to people who don't agree with you? how charming and immature, perhaps someone ought to put your toys back into your pram and shut you up (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

With that I'm off to bed as I've had enough of speaking to children, hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to have an adult conversation on here (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

oo my toys are away .. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Anytime ... `btw, do need someone to tuck u in ? Maybe one of ur helpers (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[misha]

Guys, it's really a pointless discussion that just getting personal. Everybody showed their points and I don't think anybody is gonna change anyones minds on this.

[Tennie]

Thank you for being a voice of reason, Mishale. Have a cookie. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[misha]

Thank you for being a voice of reason, Mishale. Have a cookie. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Can I play with your doll fish instead? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Nova]

Guys, it's really a pointless discussion that just getting personal. Everybody showed their points and I don't think anybody is gonna change anyones minds on this.

It's not pointless to defend Carlo (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

All I see is him praising the opponents and blaming his own players for a mistake? Either than or I can't read.

No u can read ... U just choose to read what is appropriate.

Now, what I was referring too was the comment that he made ; 'you cant make a good omelet with any egg, you need the right eggs to make good omelet' .. Something like that, he was referring to the players that he has, in comparison with his injured key players.


And the Villa victory Mourinho had little to say about, yes that is true .. So ? It's not that he will come out and say those things after every match. He will say those things when he is in bad rapport with certain players .. He has done it throughout his career at Chelsea

[kurtsimonw]

OOOOh gosh!!! You know, I really don't care about people laugh at Milan. You're English, you should be the first to know about this things when it comes to your NT!

You know what..? I think Milan is superior to Mourinho. Milan is that what Jose needs, not the other way. Do you wanna know why? Cause we have tradition, we ahve history, and we have success. But not that Abramovich-money success, not even the small-town Porto success, no we have permanent success. And if he want's to prove himself once more, he has to make that step.

I'm English? Thanks for pointing out the obvious. I love it when people from unsuccesful, un-historic nations run their mouth. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

All I see is you slamming a managers success while bragging about Milans. You, my friend, are a glory hunter.

Don't get personal next time. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Tennie]

Can I play with your doll fish instead? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Hrm. That sounds kinda kinky. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Can I play with your doll fish instead? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

oh ur old news Misha (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

turns out it's a piranha .. and watch out, she's got a tank full of 'em (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Tennie]

Er. Just a point of historical fact. Croatia were in the semis of the World Cup in 1998 (finishing third, I believe). Hardly unsuccessful.

Unless I'm sorely mistaken, that's a better record than England has had.

[misha]

Hrm. That sounds kinda kinky. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

It is if you want it to be (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Tennie]

oh ur old news Misha (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

turns out it's a piranha .. and watch out, she's got a tank full of 'em (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Nono, the fish doll is a fish doll. He's cute and furry and has a stitched smile on his little fishy face.

But he DOES tip naughty boys like R7 into the tank where his piranha cousins live. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Nova]

I'm English? Thanks for pointing out the obvious. I love it when people from unsuccesful, un-historic nations run their mouth.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

All I see is you slamming a managers success while bragging about Milans. You, my friend, are a glory hunter.

Don't get personal next time.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Calling him a glory hunter while he's defending Milan ?

whats wrong with you ?

[misha]

Er. Just a point of historical fact. Croatia were in the semis of the World Cup in 1998 (finishing third, I believe). Hardly unsuccessful.

Unless I'm sorely mistaken, that's a better record than England has had.

England has won it at their home in 1966

[Rossoneri7]

Nono, the fish doll is a fish doll. He's cute and furry and has a stitched smile on his little fishy face.

But he DOES tip naughty boys like R7 into the tank where his piranha cousins live. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

So he's related ... Then he must be half piranha half doll (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Not even Disney would have thought of such a character .. Well done Tennie (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by Rossoneri7: Oct 22 2007, 12:29 AM

[Tennie]

I stand corrected. Edited statement: Unless I'm sorely mistaken, that's a better record than England has had in the same time period. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Nova]

England has won it at their home in 1966

Yeah , back when Inter won the CL (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

Er. Just a point of historical fact. Croatia were in the semis of the World Cup in 1998 (finishing third, I believe). Hardly unsuccessful.

Unless I'm sorely mistaken, that's a better record than England has had.

Er..

I'm not an historian or anything, but we did win it. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

And please don't come up the whole bullsh!t. "That was ages ago, blah blah blah.." Honestly, what is the point of winning something if it's going to be looked down upon in the future?

[Fillipo Simone]

I'm English? Thanks for pointing out the obvious. I love it when people from unsuccesful, un-historic nations run their mouth.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

All I see is you slamming a managers success while bragging about Milans. You, my friend, are a glory hunter.

Don't get personal next time.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Oh, that wasn't ment to be personal at all, but I wanted to appeal to something I would be sure you've experienced. I mean, why the hell should we bother about people having a laugh at us? Whole Europe laugh at England (NT) for quite some time..and honestly, do you care about it? When you watch a game on the Wembley, do you care about? Sorry if I insulted you anywy,...

Why would I be a glory hunter? I'm not bragging, I just stated out some facts. Should I pretend Milan isn't the best team in Europe? Why? Cause of Mourinho,..? No way,...I'm not slamming his success, I just wanted to say: Jose is the one that would, at the end, benefit out of a marriage with us.

And IMO he does not fit intoour system. We are elegant, he is not, at least not in that family-kind way...

[kurtsimonw]

Oh, that wasn't ment to be personal at all, but I wanted to appeal to something I would be sure you've experienced. I mean, why the hell should we bother about people having a laugh at us? Whole Europe laugh at England (NT) for quite some time..and honestly, do you care about it? When you watch a game on the Wembley, do you care about? Sorry if I insulted you anywy,...

Why would I be a glory hunter? I'm not bragging, I just stated out some facts. Should I pretend Milan isn't the best team in Europe? Why? Cause of Mourinho,..? No way,...I'm not slamming his success, I just wanted to say: Jose is the one that would, at the end, benefit out of a marriage with us.

And IMO he does not fit intoour system. We are elegant, he is not, at least not in that family-kind way...

Fair enough.

Apologies Fillipo, I am sorry. I thought you were personally taking a bash at my country.

I understand what' you're saying now, no hard feeling. I get defensive about England, as you can see. Sorry, pal.

[Tennie]

I could type out a long response but really there's no point to it. We all have opinions and it doesn't look like anyone is going to change their mind.

Some people rate Mourinho, some don't. Some people want him in Milan, some people don't. Some people rate the English NT and some don't.

But we are all supposedly here because we support Milan. Let's try and hold onto THAT, shall we? And at least TRY to get along and respect the opinions of others.

[Rossoneri7]

I could type out a long response but really there's no point to it. We all have opinions and it doesn't look like anyone is going to change their mind.

Some people rate Mourinho, some don't. Some people want him in Milan, some people don't. Some people rate the English NT and some don't.

But we are all supposedly here because we support Milan. Let's try and hold onto THAT, shall we? And at least TRY to get along and respect the opinions of others.

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[kurtsimonw]

But we are all supposedly here because we support Milan. Let's try and hold onto THAT, shall we? And at least TRY to get along and respect the opinions of others.

It does seem that everytime Milan have a poor result this happens, admittedly I'm usually one of the main offenders, too.

I think it's clear we ALL have our own opinions, and won't change them, as Tennie says, we all need to learn a little respect for others.

That fish-doll has Tennie owning everyone recently!

[Tennie]

Damn. Now the fish doll wants to buy you all a drink. I hope you like whisky. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

Fair enough.

Apologies Fillipo, I am sorry. I thought you were personally taking a bash at my country.

I understand what' you're saying now, no hard feeling. I get defensive about England, as you can see. Sorry, pal.

DO NOT FORGIVE HIM FILIPPO..under no conditions. Run over him,take him down. He turned his back on Gila...the great Gila...the fallen angel. Oh you going down Pommie. And I don't care if you like Arsenal either. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Tennie...we got someone who's gonna be sleeping with the piranhas soon. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/realmad.gif)

[jbryant1]

Mourinho has expressed his respect for the greatness and tradition of Milan. I think we should start fresh. Mourinho is a coach that gets results and will create an interesting situation. I would say he is the best option to replace Ancelotti. And I think we need a change with Milan and a new direction.

Silvio and Galliani are the culprits in that they kept giving the denial of the situation for strikers and defense. We are fine. In the end Ancelotti isn't totally to blame for the poor performance, he's caught as captain of a sinking ship and the owners don't want to fix anything.

[Zed.D]

I'm insulted that you would care someone like Carlo to Jose.

Carlo is better? Carlo has won alot, but Jose has the UEFA Cup, Champions League, Premier League, Portugese League titles to show, and he's hardly an old man. (Remember he won the CL with Porto, not a top team like Milan - no disrespect intended to Porto).

His home record is unebelievable. Carlo's home record.. Well, his current streak is 'Lost 1' compared to Jose's unbeaten in 90-odd games.

Jose is a winner, he competes in everything, no trophy goes un-noticed. With Carlo, he plays backups in some Serie A games, he treats them like friendlies. If we don't win the CL - we'll win nothing (Of real importance.)

I just don't rate Carlo, not anymore, he's clueless.

Couldn't agree with you more.
If there was only one thing that I'm TOTALLY convinced about, it's that Carlo CANNOT lead Milan to league title anymore. maybe Europe but no Scudetto, not anymore. he's been here for SIX YEARS and he's won us the Scudetto just once. that's nothing more than an awful record in league games for a team like Milan, a team that used to win it just for fun some time ago!

[Rossoneri7]

Couldn't agree with you more.
If there was only one thing that I'm TOTALLY convinced about, it's that Carlo CANNOT lead Milan to league title anymore. maybe Europe but no Scudetto, not anymore. he's been here for SIX YEARS and he's won us the Scudetto just once. that's nothing more than an awful record in league games for a team like Milan, a team that used to win it just for fun some time ago!

Erm ... Calciopoli ring-a-bell ??

Before last yr .. Milanw as always in the running for 1st place. And would reach April and decide which trophy it wants. That is all Carlo's doing (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

And it is not Carlo who choses which trophy he is going for! It is Silvio who tells them, I want this competition and the team goes for it (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

The sooner u understand this .. The sooner u get that over Silvio Berlusconi's dead body is Mourinho gonna take over in Milan.

[Zed.D]

There no such thing as honesty from our board and coach anymore. Carlo came out and said "I tried to field Ambrosini as a striker" (THIS IS DISASTER, what Milan have become? is fielding Amrosini and Seedorf as strikers what the No1 team in the world do? are you kidding me or kidding yourselves?! fvck that UEFA ranking) but he never says what the real problem is. he never says maybe we should have bought some world class players in the summer. they never admit they were wrong with their bullsh1t policies. when some people don't have enough balls to come out and say THE TRUTH, they're either "dishonest" with their fans or are "liars". you choose whichever you want, but that doesn't make any difference as both are what one does not expect from the "No1 team in the world".

[Rossoneri7]

There no such thing as honesty from our board and coach anymore. Carlo came out and said "I tried to field Ambrosini as a striker" (THIS IS DISASTER, what Milan have become? is fielding Amrosini and Seedorf as strikers what the No1 team in the world do? are you kidding me or kidding yourselves?! fvck that UEFA ranking) but he never says what the real problem is. he never says maybe we should have bought some world class players in the summer. they never admit they were wrong with their bullsh1t policies. when some people don't have enough balls to come out and say THE TRUTH, they're either "dishonest" with their fans or are "liars". you choose whichever you want, but that doesn't make any difference as both are what one does not expect from the "No1 team in the world".

Ok .. Do u understand that Carlo doesn't have to say such things in public ?? ONLY Mourinho says such things in public.

If u don't find any closure with the current management or coach .. Supporting another team would be much easier than seeing a change of atmosphere at Milan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Carlo has Ronaldo and Pato .. Unfortunately one is injured and the other cant play till Jan. You are just being dramatic.

That Uefa ranking stands for something ... Whether u like it or not.