[dst]

Top clubs plan Super League?
Friday 14 September, 2007

There are reports that Inter, Juventus, Milan, Roma and Napoli staged a secret meeting to propose a new Super League.

The newspapers in Italy suggest that the clubs came together on Thursday after the Lega Calcio – the union of all Serie A and B sides – voted for Parma’s Tommaso Ghirardi as a representative rather than Juve candidate Giovanni Cobolli Gigli.

This left the giants with no voting representative in the Lega Calcio, so they walked out on the session and Milan general manager Adriano Galliani pledged: “We will not stand by impotently.”

It is now claimed that they are planning to set up a new Super League that will split off from the Lega Calcio.

“These five clubs represent 84 per cent of the sport’s fans in Italy, so they cannot be given the same political weight as the other 15,” added Galliani.

However, the same reports note that it is probably a scare tactic to force the other sides into giving them some leeway within the Lega Calcio.

Above all, there is a battle over pay-per-view television contracts, which from next year will be sold collectively, as they are in the Premier League.

At the moment, each club negotiates its own television deal with the companies, which has led to some contracts massively outweighing the others.

The issue has particularly hit Serie B, as none of the games from 2007-08 are on Italian television due to the failure to secure the rights.

The Serie B sides have threatened to go on strike and halt the campaign if a new deal is not negotiated.

“We are working together to find a solution,” assured FIGC President Giancarlo Abete. “However, we cannot think this will be sorted out overnight.”


::channel4::

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) ... They want that place...

[Fillipo Simone]

I hope it's just a scare-plan. Cause I like it the way this is. A "Super League" would not do any good,...

[Portman]

I'd love to have a SuperLeague but this won't happen. Pretty obvious.

[Rossoneri7]

I'd love to have a SuperLeague but this won't happen. Pretty obvious.

Nope it won't. The whole idea is fanatical, I think Galliani and co will get a representative in the end.

[kurtsimonw]

I agree that it won't happen. But I like the way they call it a SuperLeague and Napoli are involved. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

That's like calling Leeds a SuperTeam. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

I agree that it won't happen. But I like the way they call it a SuperLeague and Napoli are involved.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

That's like calling Leeds a SuperTeam.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

You are talking about S.S.C. Napoli, two times champions of Italy (4 or even 5 times runners-up), UEFA cup winners, three Italian cups, etc. It's the Napoli that "invented" Maradona (forget Barca), it's the Napoli that represents the Italian south! You just can't compare them with Leeds in any possible way,.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

You are talking about S.S.C. Napoli, two times champions of Italy (4 or even 5 times runners-up), UEFA cup winners, three Italian cups, etc. It's the Napoli that "invented" Maradona (forget Barca), it's the Napoli that represents the Italian south! You just can't compare them with Leeds in any possible way,.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Absolutely right (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

Forza Napoli (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

You are talking about S.S.C. Napoli, two times champions of Italy (4 or even 5 times runners-up), UEFA cup winners, three Italian cups, etc. It's the Napoli that "invented" Maradona (forget Barca), it's the Napoli that represents the Italian south! You just can't compare them with Leeds in any possible way,.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Alright, they're no better than Villa, and we're hardly a SuperTeam. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Alright, they're no better than Villa, and we're hardly a SuperTeam.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I though Villa was a mediocre team (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

I though Villa was a mediocre team (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

But yes, that is part of my point. We're.. mediocre (You're just trying to make me say that! =P) and they're even worse!

[Rossoneri7]

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

But yes, that is part of my point. We're.. mediocre (You're just trying to make me say that! =P)

Obviouslly not (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

and they're even worse!

They r worse ?! I mean, if anything, Maradona played for Napoli (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devilsmiley.gif)

The world's best football player.

And in Italy, Napoli really has it's weight in Serie A. I remember this from old times. (yeah old timer (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) )

[redbabies]

...and which other team will play in that "Superleague"?? (except those 5)

[kurtsimonw]

...and which other team will play in that "Superleague"?? (except those 5)

I'd have thought Lazio would be the next team, they've done okay recently.

[KillerMax]

Napoli >>>>>>> Villa


Every team has their ups and downs. But Napoli's objective is to be back on top. And they have succeeded so far if you look at their progress in the last couple of years. They'll be getting European football in the next few years. They doing good financially and generate even more and are in a position to buy very important players due their great history and huge fan base. I can't see Villa improving that rapidly.

[kurtsimonw]

Napoli >>>>>>> Villa
Every team has their ups and downs. But Napoli's objective is to be back on top. And they have succeeded so far if you look at their progress in the last couple of years. They'll be getting European football in the next few years. They doing good financially and generate even more and are in a position to buy very important players due their great history and huge fan base. I can't see Villa improving that rapidly.

We have a billionnaire owner, who happened to go to Villa games when he was studying over here. That can only be a good thing.

Players. We are fine there, we have a very solid team.

History and fan base? 7 League titles, 7 FA Cups, 5 League Cups, 1 European Cup, 1 European Super Cup. I think it's a little silly to compare Napoli with us.

We have a huge fan base. The midlands is very big, but with teams like Birmingham, Wolves and West Brom, Villa are clearly the most supported here, then we're 7th Internationally (Behind the big 4, Newcastle and Spurs). We're so under-rated it's unreal. And no R7, we're not mediocre. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[KillerMax]

But Napoli will be back in Europe soon. They'll be buying some big players in the coming years... I just can't see Villa making that kind of progress. Napoli just got promoted from Serie B and they had much better signings than Villa. To me, Villa don't look all to ambitious. Tottenham? Their ambition I can see. Villa? No.

[kurtsimonw]

But Napoli will be back in Europe soon. They'll be buying some big players in the coming years... I just can't see Villa making that kind of progress. Napoli just got promoted from Serie B and they had much better signings than Villa. To me, Villa don't look all to ambitious. Tottenham? Their ambition I can see. Villa? No.

Then, to me, you're like most people, you don't really know much about clubs outside the top 5 in the EPL. Especially since Spurs and Villa have a very similar transfer policy.

I agree that Nopli have a better chance of Europe, does that mean they're better? Not at all. They'll be fighting with the likes of Empoli for a UEFA Cup place, we have to fight Newcastle and Everton, there's a clear difference in class between the mid-table teams in Serie A and the EPL.

As for ambition, the money we've spent, the type of players we've bought, we're going places. Especially with one of the youngest squads in the league.

[KillerMax]

Then, to me, you're like most people, you don't really know much about clubs outside the top 5 in the EPL. Especially since Spurs and Villa have a very similar transfer policy.

I agree that Nopli have a better chance of Europe, does that mean they're better? Not at all. They'll be fighting with the likes of Empoli for a UEFA Cup place, we have to fight Newcastle and Everton, there's a clear difference in class between the mid-table teams in Serie A and the EPL.

As for ambition, the money we've spent, the type of players we've bought, we're going places. Especially with one of the youngest squads in the league.

Empoli? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

The fact that there is a lot of many being poured into the EPL means nothing in terms of football. At least for now. Maybe the effects are inevitable in good time, but for now, I don't see such a big difference.

Top clubs in Italy:

Milan
Juve
Inter
Roma
Fiorentina
Lazio

Then you have:

Sampdoria
Palermo

How is that going to be easy? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

[Rossoneri7]

Then, to me, you're like most people, you don't really know much about clubs outside the top 5 in the EPL. Especially since Spurs and Villa have a very similar transfer policy.

I agree that Nopli have a better chance of Europe, does that mean they're better? Not at all. They'll be fighting with the likes of Empoli for a UEFA Cup place, we have to fight Newcastle and Everton, there's a clear difference in class between the mid-table teams in Serie A and the EPL.

As for ambition, the money we've spent, the type of players we've bought, we're going places. Especially with one of the youngest squads in the league.

wow wow ... hold on ... I hope u notice this is milanfan.com not Unitedfan.com (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) . Cuz there is no way u can compare that hyped up league to Serie A !!

I can tolerate so much, but to say that Sampdoria, Palermo, Fiorentina, and Lazio don't have class ?! Well, it's like ur saying I have no idea what Serie A is, but I'm just here for the ride ... (which I know ur not, so ..)

Money ?! Yeah the EPL has the money, what has that got to do with anything ... For us here, we hold Serie A in high esteem, higher than La Liga or the EPL. It is the most difficult league in the world!

[kurtsimonw]

It is all opinion.

In my opinion Spurs, Newcastle, Villa and Everton are better than Lazio, Viola, Palermo and Napoli

wow wow ... hold on ... I hope u notice this is milanfan.com not Unitedfan.com  . Cuz there is no way u can compare that hyped up league to Serie A !!

Oh, I see. But it's okay for you to bash my home team with a team like Napoli. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

So what does Napoli have to do with Milanfan?

Money ?! Yeah the EPL has the money, what has that got to do with anything ... For us here, we hold Serie A in high esteem, higher than La Liga or the EPL. It is the most difficult league in the world!

Money? What about money? I'm saying our signings were no worse than Napoli's, I was replying to what Max said about our transfer, which usually involves money.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I don't HAVE TO think Serie A is the best league in the World just because I like Milan.

How is that going to be easy?

There is a huge difference in the meaning easy and easier. Easier is the word I used. It is easier to beat Serie A mid-table teams than EPL mid-table teams, that is what I'm saying.

But again, you say Napoli are better than Villa, with a superb history and whatever, yet my team apparently doesn't? As soon as I move to defend my team I'm apparently anti-Milan and hate Serie A because English people can never be right because they only live by hype. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by kurtsimonw: Sep 15 2007, 02:14 AM

[Rossoneri7]

It is all opinion.

In my opinion Spurs, Newcastle, Villa and Everton are better than Lazio, Viola, Palermo and Napoli
Oh, I see. But it's okay for you to bash my home team with a team like Napoli.  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

So what does Napoli have to do with Milanfan?
Money? What about money? I'm saying our signings were no worse than Napoli's, I was replying to what Max said about our transfer, which usually involves money.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I don't HAVE TO think Serie A is the best league in the World just because I like Milan.

No u don't have to think. It's ur opinion and `i feel sorry that u haven't experienced the Napoli of Maradona, which explains a lot (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Well, u were talking about the money u spent and the ambition, etc etc ... Seriously, who the f2ck cares .. I mean ur the ONLY one in here talking about Villa in every single thread !!! Stick to the EPL thread with that stuff !

Well, Napoli has a lot to do with Milanfan, first off we will be playing them twice this year and if we get them in the Coppa then 4 times .. Which has a closer correlation than the EPL second string teams (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

p.s. I don't mean to offend u, and I don't mean to bash ur team (u know I was joking..) ... Obviously Villa have greater prestige than Chelsea and u know how I respect thing slike that. But lets try to keep the EPL talk in the EPL thread, that is what I meant by Unitedfan.com (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Tennie]

there's a clear difference in class between the mid-table teams in Serie A and the EPL.

Kurt, I don't have any problem with you defending Villa - I actually rather enjoy watching them - and we're all certainly welcome to our opinions on the superiority of one league over another.

But I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with you on the above statement. I don't think the UEFA-Cup place teams (to use rough comparison) in England are at all better than the UEFA-Cup place teams in Italy. Again, it's personal preference, but for me the likes of Fiorentina are equal to (if not better than) the Evertons and Tottenhams of the world.

As for Napoli, perhaps it's only the old folks on the board who remember the late 80s and 90s, but they /were/ a powerhouse. And even when they were struggling after bankrupcy and in Serie C, they were the 4th most supported club in Italy (after Juve, Milan, and Inter and well ahead of either Rome team). I'm thrilled to see them back in Serie A and having real potential to do well.

I'll quite happily agree to disagree with you on the matter though.(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (At least we've agreed on...something in the past. I remember this, and it shocked me.)

[dst]

Oh not again... please guys!

Kurt, of course Napoli would be in the imaginary Super League, every man and woman south of Rome would go to the stadium to support them! They might not have a rich trophy cabinet but they are huge cause they represent a huge part of Italy, they represent all those Italians that the lush North does not consider to even be Italians...

[kurtsimonw]

No u don't have to think. It's ur opinion and `i feel sorry that u haven't experienced the Napoli of Maradona, which explains a lot (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Well, u were talking about the money u spent and the ambition, etc etc ... Seriously, who the f2ck cares .. I mean ur the ONLY one in here talking about Villa in every single thread !!! Stick to the EPL thread with that stuff !

Well, Napoli has a lot to do with Milanfan, first off we will be playing them twice this year and if we get them in the Coppa then 4 times .. Which has a closer correlation than the EPL second string teams (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

p.s. I don't mean to offend u, and I don't mean to bash ur team (u know I was joking..) ... Obviously Villa have greater prestige than Chelsea and u know how I respect thing slike that. But lets try to keep the EPL talk in the EPL thread, that is what I meant by Unitedfan.com (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I mention then when I am asked, when it is relevant. But the one thing that does p1ss me off is that YOU always single me out with this. Porty could talk about Barca in whatever thread, or go completely off topic and talk about his ***, do you yap on at him about going off topic? No, it's a rule that only applies to me apparently.

Napoli of Maradonna? No, I didn't experience it, but I do not need to as a few years does not make a great team.

[Rossoneri7]

It's because me and Porty hooked up last nite ... That's why he was off the hook ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

and Porty doesn't even like Barca in the first place ... Anyways ... U need to take a chill pill !!! BIG time ...

I am not singling u out and I am not picking on u. But please do, if u think I meant to take a swipe at u, go to any recent thread u like and just flip through it then tell me how many times the word 'Villa' had been brought up! Then take a deep breath and understand what I am trying to say here.

p.s. a couple of years (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Aha .. clearly this explains a lot ... wikipedia right (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (Why do I even try)

EDIT:

Napoli of Maradonna

u mean Maradona (@dst got one (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) )

This post has been edited by Rossoneri7: Sep 15 2007, 03:02 AM

[Tennie]

It's because me and Porty hooked up last nite ... That's why he was off the hook ...  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Yes, and you boys are being scary again. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

You're going to traumatize my poor fish doll!

Joking aside, this looks like another subject that we're not going to get consensus on so....let's shake hands, agree to disagree, and look forward to the Siena game, shall we? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

(Or I'll have to get out my fish doll. A traumatized fish doll is scary.)

[kurtsimonw]

I understand what you're saying about Villa (Using Barcelona was an example, by the way.), but I'll do a real one, Porty talking about Real Madrid then. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

On looking at Wikipedia I've found Maradona was there for 7 years, so I admit I was off with 'a few years'. But I still don't believe that makes a great team, that's just my opinion.

[dst]

A traumatized fish doll is scary

(IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

But I still don't believe that makes a great team, that's just my opinion.

I think Napoli are bigger than Roma (for example) and that's only because Maradona played for them! In any case, everyone is entitled to their own opinion... Kurt, I don't think it matters though if Napoli is a great team or not cause the Super League represents the bigs, not the greats and in that sense Napoli are big since they have a huge following (read my post above)

In any case, the supposed Super League is so random that makes Joey sound like he's speaking French! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

This post has been edited by dst: Sep 15 2007, 03:25 AM

[Rossoneri7]

Yes, and you boys are being scary again.    (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

You're going to traumatize my poor fish doll!

Joking aside, this looks like another subject that we're not going to get consensus on so....let's shake hands, agree to disagree, and look forward to the Siena game, shall we? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

(Or I'll have to get out my fish doll. A traumatized fish doll is scary.)

Yeah I know what u mean ... And no I don't want any traumatized fish doll (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Not after last nite (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

p.s. agreed to disagree.

[kurtsimonw]

Yeah I know what u mean ... And no I don't want any traumatized fish doll  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Not after last nite (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

p.s. agreed to disagree.

I agree, with the agreeing to disagree.


In any case, back to the thread. What a useless thing it'd be, it would destroy Serie A, they wouldn't have any big teams left! But it isn't happening anyways.

[Rossoneri7]

^^^

Nope, the whole of Serie A would loose collectively if Milan, Juve and Napoli made their own league (not counting the merda, cuz Serie A would be sh1t without those three, and sh1t and merda are basically the same sh1t (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )

[KillerMax]

I just have to say, I love Villa. They are the team I'm cheering for in the EPL, because I've come to respect them and like them after everything I've learned from them thanks to Kurt. I also love Napoli a lot. Milan is in my blood though, it's a different story. So, Kurt, never take anything personally. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

[Fillipo Simone]

We all love Villa, if not for their football style, then just for Kurt, don't we? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

But it is really very normal that most of us have a deeper connection with Italian/Serie A clubs then with clubs from other leagues. Every league has his own qualities and strenght. In the late 80ties there were more then just Milan and Juve playing an important role in european football. Especially in the 90ties when Fiorentina, Parma and Lazio did great in the UEFA cup. The same you just can't say for Villa, Everton, West Ham or Tottenham. But with their tradition they can. We all have to agree that the Serie A from for ex. 2000 was the best league in the world/europe without eny thinking. Nowdays many of the traditional clubs lost their constance and power (Napoli, Sampdoria, Torino,..) but still try hard and eventually do well, and the other important clubs (Parma, Roma, Fiorentina) can't hold on with their cadre. It is a crisis of global measures, considering not only football in Italy. The EPL is going, what I belive is the easier way, after the money and the big spendings. But so far no good,.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)

[kurtsimonw]

I just have to say, I love Villa. They are the team I'm cheering for in the EPL, because I've come to respect them and like them after everything I've learned from them thanks to Kurt.

We all love Villa, if not for their football style, then just for Kurt, don't we? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Well, I thank you both then. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

The funny thing is, I don't even like EPL teams. Villa because I live there, and Chelsea because they stop United winning everything. But when it comes to European competition I HATE English teams wining things. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

I do believe Serie A probably has the better football, alot of the players are better on the ball, and at the moment they are doing better in Europe, to a certain degree. I suppose I do get a little caught up in the EPL hype, but I can't get enough of it. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

[dst]

Too much love will kill you... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[Jack Sparrow]

He's in love with football, not girls or drugs.

[kurtsimonw]

He's in love with football, not girls or drugs.

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