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post Aug 24 2007, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 24 2007, 07:02 PM)
I think Italy are in a much worse situation than England. They are in huge trouble right now.
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Who blames them, they are the reigning world champs (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ... What more can they achieve (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)


Not an alibi, I know ... But they definitely don't have it worse than England, I mean they have a solid team, but lack motivation IMO
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post Aug 24 2007, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 24 2007, 10:35 PM)
Who blames them, they are the reigning world champs (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ... What more can they achieve  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)
Not an alibi, I know ... But they definitely don't have it worse than England, I mean they have a solid team, but lack motivation IMO
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The blame goes on Donadoni. Its a shame, really. I was disgusted with the loss against Hungary. After does 2 upcoming matches it will be addio to Roberto.
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 25 2007, 12:56 AM)
The blame goes on Donadoni. Its a shame, really. I was disgusted with the loss against Hungary. After does 2 upcoming matches it will be addio to Roberto.
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It was always gonna be a difficult job for anyone taking over from a world cup winning coach
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post Aug 24 2007, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 24 2007, 10:35 PM)
Who blames them, they are the reigning world champs (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ... What more can they achieve  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)
Not an alibi, I know ... But they definitely don't have it worse than England, I mean they have a solid team, but lack motivation IMO
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IMO being the reigning champions is always more of a handicap than it benefits a team. Every champion tends to satisfaction and overestimation. This is what just happens to Italy.
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QUOTE (LaPalma @ Aug 25 2007, 01:40 AM)
IMO being the reigning champions is always more of a handicap than it benefits a team. Every champion tends to satisfaction and overestimation. This is what just happens to Italy.
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Basically, that was what I was saying (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 24 2007, 11:12 PM)
It was always gonna be a difficult job for anyone taking over from a world cup winning coach
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No it wasn`t allways. Remember France 1998 and then back 2000?

Diffuclties after winning the WC appear, I know, but Italy has a much more serious problem. They got a unready coach without any perspect of getting better soon enough.

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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Aug 25 2007, 10:19 AM)
No it wasn`t allways. Remember France 1998 and then back 2000?

Diffuclties after winning the WC appear, I know, but Italy has a much more serious problem. They got a unready coach without any perspect of getting better soon enough.
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Although Donadoni isn't as experienced as Lippi, but neither is Domenech for that matter.

The problem here is, who would replace a world cup winning coach ?! It is bigger pressure than you think and many coaches would be thrown into the furnace had they failed ...
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 25 2007, 08:33 AM)
Although Donadoni isn't as experienced as Lippi, but neither is Domenech for that matter.

The problem here is, who would replace a world cup winning coach ?! It is bigger pressure than you think and many coaches would be thrown into the furnace had they failed ...
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I know, but Donadoni seems to be the worst choice,.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 24 2007, 11:46 PM)

Well then...go on (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

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No it wasn`t allways. Remember France 1998 and then back 2000?

Diffuclties after winning the WC appear, I know, but Italy has a much more serious problem. They got a unready coach without any perspect of getting better soon enough.

But do you remember Frances performance in '02?
Anyway, I think Italys problem (or Dons Problem?) is that there are almost no good young players to put some pressure on the oldies. Who's there to replace someone like Canna or even Matrix after Nesta retired? And Italys attack lacks creativity after Tottis retirement.
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The poor Azzurri; they're dropping like flies. Luca Toni just scored a very nice goal in Bayern's game and pulled up immediately thereafter with a thigh injury. He was subbed out and went straight to the dressing room.
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 24 2007, 04:02 PM)
I think Italy are in a much worse situation than England. They are in huge trouble right now.
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No chance, they have a good team, we have a good player (Stevie G) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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QUOTE (Tennie @ Aug 25 2007, 05:05 PM)
The poor Azzurri; they're dropping like flies. Luca Toni just scored a very nice goal in Bayern's game and pulled up immediately thereafter with a thigh injury. He was subbed out and went straight to the dressing room.
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Pippo and Alessandro to the rescue!
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post Aug 26 2007, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE (Kaka Is Brilliant @ Aug 25 2007, 04:55 PM)
No chance, they have a good team, we have a good player (Stevie G)  (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
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I think some people are starting to beleive the media's criticism of us!

We've kept 6 cleen sheets in qualfying, in only 7 games! We were the better side against Brazil, the better side against Germany. Unlucky not to win both. Italy are playing poorly as it is, that's without their whole defense retired/injured. I hate to say it, but Scotland WILL beat Italy in qualifying, which will pretty much put them out of it. That's just my opinion though, it may happen, it may not.
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QUOTE (kurtsimonw @ Aug 26 2007, 10:49 AM)
I think some people are starting to beleive the media's criticism of us!
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No offense, but u seem to be offended easily Kurt ... It is just ppl's opinions, and from what I have seen of the English NT, it has always been this way .. They have this good enough team to win, but are always knocked out.

Has nothing to do with the media ... It has everything to do with what the English national team lacks!

As I stated earlier a goal keeper is vital for England to reach the latter stages of competitions !!
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Aug 26 2007, 09:12 AM)
No offense, but u seem to be offended easily Kurt ... It is just ppl's opinions, and from what I have seen of the English NT, it has always been this way .. They have this good enough team to win, but are always knocked out.

Has nothing to do with the media ... It has everything to do with what the English national team lacks!

As I stated earlier a goal keeper is vital for England to reach the latter stages of competitions !!
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Nah, I'm not offended. As you said, I'm just putting my opinion over as a response to someone elses. We do lack a goalkeeper, and a true striker. Owen and Rooney aren't that real in the box guy we need. We miss the likes of Shearer/Sheringham/Fowler big time.
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