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Allievi Nazionali  Group: Helpers Posts: 8,465 Joined: 9-March 06 Member No.: 1,388  |
QUOTE (4827saviola611 @ Feb 4 2007, 11:15 AM) Would Catania and Palermo be fined to regleated or ban of european matches  That would be utterly unfair to the clubs and their players... Especially Catania who have worked really hard to be where they are right now... |
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Feb 4 2007, 09:14 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (milanista1899 @ Feb 4 2007, 04:59 PM) This isn't the 1st ever tragedy or injustice in the world and it won't be the last, I didn't know the guy, I've said what feels like a million times that I have sympathy for him & his family/friends. You can choose to be miserable & let things consume you or enjoy life (which is the reason for it!) and move on! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I agree with u on this point |
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Feb 4 2007, 09:30 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (I_Rossoneri @ Feb 4 2007, 06:31 PM) Raciti murder "was revenge" The police are now suggesting that Filippo Raciti was targeted in a revenge killing for acting as a witness in the trial of a Catania Ultra’. The 38-year-old policeman was killed during riots that surrounded the Stadio Massimino while Catania-Palermo was played inside. An autopsy has now confirmed he died from massive liver damage. “The cause of death is clear,†announced the MD. It was already known that the Catania fans staged an ambush on the arriving Palermo fans and police force, but a frightening new theory has come to light – the football match was merely an excuse to exact revenge on the Chief Inspector. “In the last few weeks, Filippo had acted as a key witness in the trial of a Catania Ultra’ accused of violence in the last derby at Palermo. He was the one who nailed him, reconstructing the events of another nightmare evening,†explained police colleague Claudio Anzalone. “Filippo told me how things unfolded. That lad, who got a suspended sentence, left the court laughing at him and hurling insults. Now this incident could really mean something, even if nobody listened to our warnings before.†This theory would fit in with the sequence of events on Friday evening at the Stadio Massimino. The Palermo fans did not arrive until the second half and it was here that the trouble erupted, when Catania supporters waiting outside the stadium began their ambush. Raciti, one of the policemen escorting the visiting fans, was struck in the chest by a rock and then a homemade bomb was thrown at his car. “We can confirm that there was no involvement of the Rosanero fans,†said Catania police chief Ignazio Fonzo. “The riot was solely created by pseudo-Catania supporters, real delinquents with a premeditated action of extreme violence. It’s a little early to talk today about a premeditated and targeted murder, however.†More evidence suggests this may have been revenge for the last Sicilian derby, won 5-3 by Palermo at the Stadio Barbera on September 20. Raciti had been placed in a desk job for the past few months, but became restless and at his request was returned to duty at football matches just over a week ago. The tension expected in the derby may well have given the criminals the perfect excuse to commit murder disguised as football-related violence. Last night the police raided several different Catania fan clubs to weed out the more hardline elements. So far 22 people are under arrest. Channel 4 So it was murder !!! This has nothing to do w/ football!!!!! |
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Feb 4 2007, 10:11 PM
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Prima Squadra  Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 4 2007, 08:30 PM) So it was murder !!! This has nothing to do w/ football!!!!! To some extent this whole things never had anything to do with football. Football was just these people's excuse for rioting against the Palermo fans. I think it has more to do with politics rather then anything else. Too bad football was dragged into this (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
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Feb 4 2007, 10:40 PM
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Pulcini 97 Group: Full Members Posts: 182 Joined: 28-August 05 Member No.: 321 |
it was the perfect setup
well if this is the case then it is unlikely that the rest of the season will be in closed doors... just more security i think |
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Feb 4 2007, 10:54 PM
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Prima Squadra Group: Moderators Posts: 39,655 Joined: 6-January 06 From: Malta Member No.: 1,109 |
Milan in favour of zero tolerance
Carlo Ancelotti and his Milan squad believe the key to beating fan violence is a zero tolerance policy. “We need to go to the source of the problem and set out rules that will really frighten them,†said Massimo Oddo, no stranger to the Ultras after years at Lazio. “Whoever commits these crimes tends to get arrested and then released the same day. If things remain the same, then of course these pseudo-fans will never be afraid and continue to behave this way.†Coach Ancelotti took an even harder line on the tifosi after a policeman was killed during rioting outside Catania’s Stadio Massimino on Friday. “I think that above all else we need to implement a zero tolerance policy,†noted the tactician. “The police have to be given extra powers.†Although there are also crowd problems in Brazil, Kaka concedes he has no answers for the Italian troubles. “I am not the right person to say how we are supposed to get out of this situation, but I do hope there will be some strong changes, because we cannot carry on like this.†|
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Feb 5 2007, 12:44 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (milanista1899 @ Feb 4 2007, 03:59 PM) Do I suggest apathy? Well I know you don't suggest apathy but IMO it was essential to postpone this week's games cause what happened might have caused a chain reaction... Violence brings about more violence! QUOTE (milanista1899 @ Feb 4 2007, 03:59 PM) Part of the reason I want things to continue is that the fans don't deserve to be punished for the stupidity of the minority of football hooligans. It doesn't really matter if it's the minority or the majority... the result is still the same and since it's linked with football I'd rather have one or two football weeks canceled if it means that such actions are to be crossed out. I don't feel punished! Also... what all Serie A fans feel for missing the giornata cannot be compared to what his wife and children feel. QUOTE (milanista1899 @ Feb 4 2007, 03:59 PM) I don't know if you're joking, over-exaggerating or just being stupid but I'd never say anything of the sort! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) I could enjoy watching it because I love and will always enjoy watching Milan (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) No I'm not being stupid. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I would love to watch Milan but no I wouldn't enjoy football itself cause those black arm-bands in the footballer's arms would still remind me of what happened. QUOTE (milanista1899 @ Feb 4 2007, 03:59 PM) You can choose to be miserable & let things consume you or enjoy life (which is the reason for it!) and move on! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I feel the world has become too hard to feel misery for such an incident... sympathy is what it is at best! I myself cannot claim I feel anything more than that... This post has been edited by dst: Feb 5 2007, 01:44 AM |
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Feb 5 2007, 01:42 AM
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Kaka's fangirl, and proud =] Group: Helpers Posts: 2,334 Joined: 26-October 06 From: Vienna, AUSTRIA Member No.: 2,687 |
today I heard on my radio that 29 are in arrest, and that clubs want to play the league, but the state says no, until there are better securities in the stadiums
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Feb 5 2007, 02:27 AM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (mchanna @ Feb 5 2007, 02:42 AM) today I heard on my radio that 29 are in arrest, and that clubs want to play the league, but the state says no, until there are better securities in the stadiums The clubs want the championship to resume on Sunday (even behind closed doors) but FIGC/CONI/Govt insist on putting it all back for one more week and then also debar the stadiums for two weeks more! |
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Feb 5 2007, 02:11 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
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Lotito wants stadio ownership Monday 5 February, 2007 Lazio chief Claudio Lotito believes that football clubs should own their stadiums in order to implement the existing anti-violence laws. All football activity in Italy was suspended on Friday after Chief Inspector Filippo Raciti was killed during the riots following the Sicilian derby between Catania and Palermo. Former Home Office Minister Giuseppe Pisanu had introduced new rules last year which were meant to increase safety inside the stadiums, including CCTV footage, turnstiles and security checks. But to date only the Stadio Giuseppe Meazza in Milan, Rome’s Stadio Olimpico, the Stadio Renzo Barbera in Palermo and the Stadio Olimpico in Turin comply with Legge Pisanu rules. “The Pisanu law is a good one, but we need appropriate structures for it to be respected,†said Lotito to television program Controcampo. “The stadium is not only made of the pitch and the stands, but it also includes security rings and much more,†continued the Biancoceleste, who believes that these structures would allow clubs to filter access to the stadium. “However, I believe stadiums should be owned by us, just as in England. That is the only way for the clubs to become responsible for security. “Stadiums must not be considered no-man’s-land, there are laws which already exist to punish hooliganism and they must be implemented,†concluded Lotito. The Italian Olympic Committee and the FIGC will meet on Monday to discuss how long the suspension will last and it is reported that stadiums which fail to fit the bill could be banned from staging matches next season. |
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Feb 5 2007, 02:14 PM
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"Durgle The Turtle" Group: Helpers Posts: 1,583 Joined: 28-January 07 From: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia Member No.: 3,402 |
QUOTE (4827saviola611 @ Feb 4 2007, 05:15 PM) Would Catania and Palermo be fined to regleated or ban of european matches I'm confused... when is the match? Today or tomorrow? |
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Feb 5 2007, 02:15 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
I'd love it if we owned San Siro, a stadium originally built for Milan to play in! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) Kick the losers out! |
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Feb 5 2007, 02:18 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (jefri91 @ Feb 5 2007, 03:14 PM) I'm confused... when is the match? Today or tomorrow? The game was on Friday, that's when everything happened. No more games were played and calcio is set to resume this coming weekend or even the one after that! |
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Feb 5 2007, 03:18 PM
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Smoking Bianco Group: Helpers Posts: 14,039 Joined: 15-August 05 From: KWT Member No.: 191 |
QUOTE (dst @ Feb 5 2007, 04:15 PM) I'd love it if we owned San Siro, a stadium originally built for Milan to play in! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/devil.gif) Kick the losers out! True .. But I think the San Siro is owned by the state and is a public entity. Still I do agree with u Milan should buy the stadium, at least for it's heritage. In all truth .. Though it is old and suffers problems in the winter .. It still remains one of the most exotic stadiums in the world (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) |
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Feb 5 2007, 03:23 PM
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Primavera Group: Moderators Posts: 23,206 Joined: 20-November 05 From: Athens, Hellas Member No.: 911 |
QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Feb 5 2007, 04:18 PM) True .. But I think the San Siro is owned by the state and is a public entity. Still I do agree with u Milan should buy the stadium, at least for it's heritage. In all truth .. Though it is old and suffers problems in the winter .. It still remains one of the most exotic stadiums in the world (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) Here's how it all started: QUOTE (Wikipedia) The idea to build a stadium in the same district of the horse racing track, belongs to the man who then was the president of A.C. Milan, Piero Pirelli. The architects designed a stadium only for football (there is no athletics track in it). The inauguration was on 19 September 1926, when 35,000 spectators saw Inter defeat Milan 6-3. Actually, during the first years the stadium was property of A.C. Milan and only Milan. Milan played its home matches there. Then in 1935 the "Comune di Milano" (city council) bought the stadium and this allowed the stadium itself to be renovated. Internazionale started to play its home matches in the San Siro stadium only in 1947. As long as the Merda stay out of it, there won't be any problems! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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