Agreed but you can't deny that ES was 'sh!t' Also, accept for one timid shot on goal all he did was misplac passes.

Somthing that the 'Milan Sheva'# Never used to do.

It's useless trying to defend his performances when heplays that bad.

And we all know that he is still playing because of Abramovic. If the situation was different Jose wouyld have benched his @ss 2 months ago

Beautiful goal by Essien... though it was absolutely untechnical!! It could have ended up in my house's roof for all I know... not even in school did we hit the ball so blindly with the rear part of the shoe! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


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what are you talking about?
roman definitely NOT interferes on jose's plans

No of course he doesn't... just like Berlusconi doesn't interfere with Carlo's... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

I'm not denying it. He was bad but Drogba wasn't much better.

He is playing cuz Jose knows that sooner or later Sheva will adjust. You cannot adjust without playing

What's the reason comparing them?? This is the same to me as saying "He was bad but Gila hit the post" ... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Whether he will adjust or not time can only tell. Tonight he was bad, period!

This post has been edited by dst: Dec 10 2006, 08:09 PM

Sure continue believeing that (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


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Yeah Drogba was bad but not as much as Sheva, He was losing balls, and wasn't EVEN getting in good positions, let alone score.

Just saying that he is playing because they want him to adjust is BS imo. I was watching Chelsea TV today and they where talking about this with journalists, and the Chelsea TV reporter asked them why they are so hard on him. And this sports writer said this "He's had time to adjust he's a world class player and if it wasn't for his relationship with Abramovic Jose would have benched him a long time ago. Robben had a bad half hour against United and he is benched immediately, Sheva is having bad game after bad game and he still get's the starting berth." Then this journalist went on and said something about him being friends with Roman "I remember this episode when Chelsea and Milan had arranged a friendly and Abramovic and Sheva where in deep conversation, to the point where Carlo Ancellotti had t yell at him 'Andiamo Sheva, Andiamo' to return back to training" I think this is proof enough that it's not just me and some others who feel this way about Sheva getting the special treatment but eveb journalists who continue to call Mourinho out on this. And despite what Mourinho says we all know that if the situation was different and Sheva wasn't as close as he is to Abramovic he wouldn't have got as much chances as he's had. End of.

I'm sorry but I think it's BS.
It's easy to say that it's because their relationship. What would you expect from a journalist? It's a juicy story. There is numerous examples of a very good players, world class players that's took for them some time to adjust. And guess what they played cuz there wasn't quastion about their ability just like there isn't about his. Why Wenger hasn't benched Henry when he was bad at the begining? because he knew that he need some time to adjust and you cannot adjust from the bench (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) or could you? Just because it's happens to be that Sheva has good relationship with Abromovic it's convenient to use that every time against him. If you think that somebody can say to Jose what to do then you are wrong.

roman isnb't interfering in jose's plans!
silvio IS intefering in carlo's plans!

that's the difference.
while roman a while back didn't have any clue of FB, silvio apparantely has.
and I know many who agree with me

because Henry was 22 when he joined the Gooners and unlike Sheva far from a world calss striker!! I think there is quite a difference between the two... (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


and I know many who don't.

you know somebody who works at chelsea?
I do...

It was part of the agreement, that jose would only come if HE HAS ALL THE DECISIONS TO MAKE REGARDING FOOTBALL

Adjusting time or not, if that was someone else, high class player or not Jose would have benched him. Do you doubt Robben's ability? Does he deserve to be shown the bench because of a bad 30 minutes against Man U? Especially when he was coming on as a sub!



Of course he does interfere. If Jose doens't do what he wants him to then I'm sure Abramovic wouldn't have any problem sacking him.

O.o what do you mean.
Roman snagged a whiz to Chelsea, and as long as everythings alright he won't interfere.
And the agreement....

THANKYOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't understand why the hell people keep comparing the 2 situations. Henry went to Arsenal as a failed MEDFIELDER from Juve. Sheva went to Chelsea as an established WORLD CLASS striker, with experiance, in probably the most defensive league there is. Two COMPLETELY different situations!!!



Roman might not interfere in anything else but he does interfere in the Sheva situation!!! You don't have to 'know people from the inside' or anything else to know this. If you know how to add 1 + 1 then you would figure the situation out easily.

I wouldn't imagine Jose jeopradising a result in an important match just so a player could 'adapt' no matter how much money and how good he is. Chelsea CLEARLY play better when he isn't playing, Jose is probably one of the best managers there is right now, if I myself and a couple of other millions of people see this, then I can't see why he wouldn't see it.

There IS pressure from Roman to play him, no matter what anyone from the Chelsea camp says.

This post has been edited by han2503: Dec 10 2006, 09:29 PM

NOPE!
Jose does everything regarding football.
a l a"I do the football, you do the business!"
and quote: "I know nothing about business, and Roman does know nothing about football"

Maybe Sheva's Roman's darling, but that doesn't mean that jose plays him just to please roman. As we know, roman knew nothing about FB, years back.