I just said so because some people (including me) think of Kaka as a master but seeing it clearly he's not there yet. He can easily kill his weak opponents but so far he hasn't been able to deal with the stronger ones...

What you said about him being the only threat is true but I asked that question looking at his previous seasons too; Last year for example in the games against Lyon he was cast aside by Diarra and he rarely managed to get away from Barcelona's Edmilson...

Nevertheless, his evolution since he arrived at San Siro is so great that I think in two years time he'll be unstoppable!! (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)

life is full of obstacles (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Kaka certainly has more to show, than he previously offered.
Going to Madrid will kill this potential obviously (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I look forward to the future Kaka ^^

If you are referring to choking in big matches then all you have to look at is the CL final, when he was literally eating up the ground beneath himself. He was that good in that match, on such a big occasion where as players like R10 failed miserably.

But if you are referring to the fact that he can sometimes be shut down, I think you have to consider the fact of how tight everybody is marking him. Barca are hyped up with their all attacking play, and what did they do against us?? They where practically playing with 10 behind the ball, and where breaking on counters, if that is how true champions are supposed to play then I don't know what kind of world we're living in. When you have a player like Diarra or even Edmilson acting as a human sticker to you it will be difficuilt to shake off. Especially when that player is Diarra, who I think is probably one of the best defensive mids going around right now.

Kaka is just 24 years old, and he has already reached the hieghts he has reached, their is definately plenty more to come from him.

He was only good in the first half out of a total 120 mins... when Liverpool found the formula they made him disappear easily!!

I would have to stick with Jack's opinion on this, cuz he is still developing .. IMO Kaka isn't overrated, cuz he is very consistent in what he does and there is few that can be compared to his potential ...

But, there is more that can come from him, he isn't good at creating his own space; i.e. he cant shake off his marker easily as Sheva, Rui, Seedorf could do (as recent examples), but that comes with experience .. U give Kaka space and that is it, consider a goal .. But most team's know that Milan's attacking potential, at the moment, is weighed 80% on Kaka, thus closing him down would mean blocking Milan's attack ..

!!

By overrated I mean that he's not yet the leader some think is!! His abilities are extraordinary but I already said I'm not referring to them.

At 24 yrs old ?! He still has some way to go to become a leader .. Take an example off of Maldini & Baresi (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Arghh... is my English that bad or are you trying to piss me off?? (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

(Read this at 0.5x Normal speed)
Let's take it easy. Some people (not me) say Kaka is a leader. I (me, myself) say that by saying so they overrate Kaka cause he's not yet developed enough so as to say he can lead Milan to victory! (By victory I don't mean a single win over any team...)

If I'm still incomprehensible (oh yeah... you can now get back to normal speed) then I'm going to kill myself.

Here I am, my finger on the trigger!!

Kaka is still definately not the leader in the team. That comes with experiance. In fact I think it was Carlo that when asked about it he down played it and said that their is no leader in Milan only the group. I think it was something like that anyway.

As for Istanbul dst. Yes Kaka was closed down in the second half, but look at how Liverpool did that, the same way Barca and Lyon did it. If you are going to make someone mark him and not let Kaka have an inch of space even when he hasn't got the ball then ofcourse it will get harder for him to shake them off, especially as time wares on.

But as I said Kaka is still young, still has a lot, to learn, and is still not the Milan leader as some would believe he needs to work hard to earn that title which he will take off a player like Maldini. Which isn't easy.

This post has been edited by han2503: Dec 1 2006, 10:20 PM

Hehe .. I got u .. I really did .. Oh and when I said 'take an example off of Maldini & Baresi ..' I ment it in general, not implying u ..

Basically, I was agreeing w/ u in my previous post; in simple terms .. Yes, Kaka is overrated when saying he is a leader .. Cuz in reality he is someway off it ..

Sh1t my gun discharged... there's blood all over the place... if only...

Yep. Didn't Benitez take off Finnan and put Hamann in during the break? I think that was to close down Kakà, like Lyon did with Diarra and Barça with Edmilson, cause he was literally destroying Liverpool by himself. As for the topic, I don't think he's overrated. I mean, he's just 24 years old and look what levels he's reached. He's the best player in the world at the moment, there's no doubt about it.

This post has been edited by X-Offender: Dec 1 2006, 10:35 PM

I hear dst's gun going off (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

dst is not saying that Kaka as a player is over rated but the fact that some already considering him as the leader in Milan.

It's 2 completely seperate things.

Kaka as a player is DEFINATELY NOT overrated. But is he the leader of Milan? Definately not

We already have our leader, he's called Paolo Maldini. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/king.gif)