Correction...since 1985. And yes, it tells much about the situation here.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

well it was a similar record with palermo when we lost to them. this is our 2nd two goal loss in the past few games and we concceded 4 against inter, i cant remember the last time this happened...

Specially if Carletto continues to put Inzaghi along with Gilardino. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

We just struggle against lower team? Oh, the humiliation vs. Inter... 4 goals in 1 night... etc etc etc. The Palermo match at home... etc

Not to mention all the ref 'incidents' that have been happening for pretty much ALL of the matches this season.

carlo makes the same mistakes!!!
when was the last time we won with gila-pippo`?

... Hopefully our MILAN can go through CL next year.. If not, maybe Kaka will leave San Siro for Santiago Bernebeu.. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

But I still believe our MILAN will bounce back..

well coaches are never on the pitch playing but they do get lots of credit when the team wins but when they continue to lose they have to receive blame. and this si a critical situation and things must be done to shake things up, ancelotti over stayed his welcome after the CL loss anyways, remember no subs in those 6 minutes. i thought that was a good time for him to leave. anyways this is now and wen neeeeeeed changes right away.

i cant believe we played gila and pippo together again... like what is ancelotti in the 5th grade or does he have mental lapses... anyways why does he have to play them together? cuz we only have on other real triker.

This post has been edited by bigmacmtl: Nov 5 2006, 05:11 PM

Spot on !!! Too bad not everyon can see it.

Gourcuff's penalty claim was dubious , but bonera's should have been a penalty.

Oh calciopoli , yet again you affect our serie A campaign. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

In the end we played terrible, no excuse.

But i dont think Carlo could have done anything. Okay , the whole Inzaghi-Gilardino crap is a good excuse every time we lose , but it doesnt matter if it was Inzaghi-Oliveira , Oliveria-Gilardino or Inzaghi-Gilardino who played today cause it would'nt have made a difference cause our midfield just wasnt there to provide anything. I felt sorry for Kaka cause nothing worked for the lad after the wonderfull hattrick against anderlecht.

Offcourse it easy to blaim the coach , hello (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I know

I had a feeling since before the match started we were gonna play sh!t. But apart from playing bad, we lost and with it all the hopes for the scudetto. Now I'm worried about our position, can we even get a Champions League spot for the next season? This team really needs to be rebuild all over. Some signings in January and then a complete overhaul in June. Cause with the current squad we've got, we have no hopes. And for f@ck's sake, stop blaming Carlo.

I knew he was going to play them together the moment I read the press conference and I dd have a feeling that nothing but damage was going to come out of it. But what do you expect the man to do??

Oliveira is still having some problems, and I guess he figured it would be a better idea to have 2 pure goal scorers to try and get in a goal from a set piece.

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Anyway, this game only shows the state of football in Italy, and still what a joke it is.

Constant fouls on kaka and Gourcuff not being given to us in the first half, CLEAR penalty on Bonera not being given.

Then to make things more ridiculous a penalty being given to us but for some reason the lineman decides to over rule it and has the NERVE to give Gourcuff a yellow for diving.

At least during the other games they where being more discreet about what they are doing, with the disallowed goals for no reason and the penalties not being given. But to over rule something and give the yellow to our player? That was just low.

Moratti and Guido Rossi must be really happy about this

btw have any of you read the article about Trofeloni the only ref which WASN'T investigated by mister Borelli himself, because his files where 'misteriously lost' during the trails but have now been found once the trails where concluded. he was the only ref who admitted that he was ordered to make wrong calls agianst Milan, and even admitted to given an uncalled for red card to Nesta during a match.

So there you go, this just proves the state of Calcio

Ehm against Juve, when we demolished them 3-1 in the San Siro loast season, against Chievo when we won 4-1, these are just a few games off the top of my head where we played with these 2 together and won.

People should get it through their heads that the fact that we are not winning is not because of Gila and Pippo but the fact that we are in terrible form.

When Milan wins , they all get the credits. When they lose they ALL take the blaim. Just as today.

But as a coach at Milan these days , you dont have many options and with Kaladze , Nesta & serginho out , you actually dont have any options.

Yeah we all know the inzaghi-gilardino fairytale , and if it was oliveira he would have bagged 4 goals today , yeah right , okay , NOT happening. (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Yes , i have the same fear too. we really need to improve to be even playing for a CL spot (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

But we must believe we will.

Forza Milan !

Well, after 21 years we lost against Atalanta in Bergamo. What a shame. The team showed nothing more then individual quality and moments of enlightment:

Dida (6) - managed to save everything he could.

Bonera (5.5) - as a RB he proved to be not as efficient as on the central position. Still, what should Carlo do? Any other RB avaible then Cafu?? No, so...

Å imić (5) - very lazy, clumsy and takes credit on the first goal we conceeded. More then a bad day for him.

Maldini (5.5) - indolent. In some occasions he reminded me of the old Maldini, but that was all he showed.

Jankulovski (4.5) - poor passing, poor crosses, everything he touched was simply wrong.

Gattuso (5.5) - got injuried 20 from time. Before then also did nothing special. Rino`s performances this season are rather dissapointing, but its also that WC factor.

Pirlo (4.5) - millions of free kicks, chances, crosses, corners,..but nothing exact, nothing of a real thread. Only that one shot, but Calderoni was there to rescue Atalanta.

Kaka (5.5) - try, try, try,...but - we acnnot expect of him to do all the job by himself, can`t we?

Gourcuff (5) - green. he still is green and not consistent, also he recently recovered, do maybe that also affected on his display. Had one brilliant long range shot at the beginning.

Inzaghi (5) - he played?

Gilardino (5.5) - one poor chance, nothing else from him.

Subs:

Seedorf (6) - our best field player today. Created two great chances, and after he took over to take the corners, we finally managed to do better. Still, his lone effort wasn`t enough.

Oliveira (5) - played pretty much on the left wing, but wasn`t even close to a chance.

Cafu (-) - nothing to say about him.


Well, I`ll have to say, time is running out, and the only hope must be the january window. I can only say that Milan has no individual problems, like Gila and Pippo can`t play, or we lack of good wings...no, we have trouble in all departments. I knew this is kind of a farewell season, but what kind of way to say goodbye is this? Man, I only hope we can rebuild the squad soon enough. This season we have to save what we can - ensure CL qualification and do as good as we get in the CL (IMG:http://cyrus.medialayer.net/~m1ke/milanfan.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif) .