That's my point though

Don't forget where we come from! Which is a decade of absolute mediocrity.

It's not about spells. We have done incredibly well no matter which way you look at it. We've gone through incredibly hard times this season, with Pioli barely having an 11 to put out. B!tching and whining because we can't maintain the spectacular form we had from after lockdown to christmas is not going to help anyone. The scudetto hope were always a reach, and even though at one point I also believed in it, we have to face facts that this team has it's limits. It is that fact that we started so well that hid those limits. But there is still a lot of improvement to be made.

But calling everyone clowns when their hard work is what brought us to this point simply because things aren't going our way is beyond the pale imo

Am I p!ssed off that we started the game so casually and then p!ssing away a goal over a ridiculous sideways pass when everyone was asleep? Yes of course. But there's no point in the over the top huffing and puffing.

Anyway, another disappointing performance.

Pioli starting with that team... Don't know what he was thinking. Why not just play Dalot at RB FFS? And then replacing Salae with Kalulu who coudn't cross if his life depended on it.

Samu and Krunic.... Both need to gtfo this summer.

Then we have to step down and be frank with ourselves: we're a mediocre team and we don't deserve to go in the CL. We've been overachieving, our players are mostly rubbish and Pioli is a mid-table coach. Only then I would agree with everything you said.

That's not the point.

CL is the only thing that can elevate us back to where we should be. We have done well in signing players for relatively cheap and them fitting in

But the deficiencies can clearly be seen, and only with CL money can we make the improvements we need to make.

Pioli has turned this team around. You can call him mid-table all you want but that is a fact. I never said we were a top tier side btw, we have shown during the season that we can show quality, but at times we can be a frustrating team. We lost points needlessly today, started with the wrong attitude, just as we have in other games since the turn of the year.

Do I like 100% of the decisions Pioli makes? of course not! Livid about the approach to the game and the personnel choices he made. Not to mention the changes come in way too late. But there is no coach on the earth who any of us would agree with 100% of the time.

We deserve to go to the CL next season because we have been better than the other teams. Simple as that. Are we worthy of CL football with the team that we have? Tbh I think we'd struggle, but that is why it is important that we start collecting that money on a regular basis so we CAN in fact start being worthy of participating and competing in the tope tier of European football

Btw, Pioli needs to sit Theo down next game. I don't know if it will be good for us, because no matter how awful he is he can still be explosive and his pace helps us. But enough is enough with him

He has not been good for around 3 months now. Terrible passing errors today, not just the one that lead to the goal. Kept dribbling into traffic and losing the ball. Had more than one opportunity to release someone else ahead of him into space but kept running and looking for the foul

A game on the bench will surely help him out at this point.

"We deserve to go to the CL next season because we have been better than the other teams"

That's debatable. But the fact remains that we're not good enough for CL. We're mediocre, and achieving 4th spot would be a huge achievement.

I watched this one. Credit to you X for admitting you got it wrong. Yup, the wheels ran off months ago and this team will struggle even to get to the UEL.

Ah, let's not be too hard on ourselves, many of us let ourselves believe some months ago. But unfortunately the soft-centre fragile inconsistent Milan never left, and it was just waiting to derail the illusion. Which was nice while it lasted.

If you need a dose of reality, look at our players. Pretty much filled with players other teams didn't want. We rarely sign anyone who's a lucrative asset of another team. We don't have the money and it's all either loans or fringe.

Which means that we end up with losers or half of the Empoli Xi (and they're not even a Serie A team these days)

Only Zlatan is of the level we need, and he's 76 now and his body is starting to break down. If you're good enough you're young enough, but he's not fit enough any more.

3 wins in the last 10 is a Milan side back to the Inzaghi days.

Nice while it lasted!

My point is, only CL money, consistent CL money will take us to the next level.

It's as simple as that.


When I say, we have done very well to get where we are, it's as simple as that really. Most people didn't have us in a top 4 finish. I personally think we have done a lot this season to deserve that and our performances against United shows that we HAVE come a long way from when we played Arsenal under Rino for example. You cannot discount that.

Danny, continuously tooting your own horn because the team is failing... What's the point? We're still 2nd, so we're still in control of our destiny. I think the coach and players deserve a bit of faith. Once again, forgetting where we have come from. It's clear you're all bitter so that means at one point or another you all believed in this team just as much as the rest of us fools...

Indeed. You said it, we were all fools. Albeit I was criticising this team as early as Udinese-Milan in November because the cracks were starting to show since then. But I kept believing cos the desire to return to Serie A leaders was huge.

Look at us today. As Danny said, 3 wins in the last 10 games. That's pitiful. Just pitiful.

Atalanta won today, Napoli as well. 5th spot is only 4 points away but Napoli also have one game less.

A few reflections:

1) Athletic preparation! Serious changes need to be made. It's unacceptable that we've had so, so many muscular injuries from nearly everyone. Look at Inter. Barely any injuries whatsoever. Great preparation from Conte and his staff. We need to either hire new people or ponder over what we did wrong and adjust our training methods.

2) Ibrahimovic. As impactful as he's been mentality-wise, let's face it: in many, many occasions he's shown the limitations of a 40 year old. Not to mention he's missed nearly half the games due to injuries. And for someone earning 7M per year, we simply cannot afford it. We need a reliable goalscorer, young and fit. Someone like Lukaku. Granted, we can't afford anyone of his calibre, but someone like Belotti for instance is a must.

3) Consistency. I'm tired of players like Theo, Hakan, Rebic, Leao etc. having good games only when it pleases them. Ambitious players give their all in every match. Kessie is a prime example. He's had a few meh performances this season, but for the most part he's been exemplary, barely having any rest and yet producing his maximum. We can't become "hostages" to our players' moods.

4) Pioli. Enough with the asinine player selection. Rebic is not 100% fit? Then play Hauge! F*ck off with your Krunic obsession, who per se is a rubbish player, but you force him down our throats as a LFW even. Or Saelemaekers as RB. What the hell was that about? Play him in his natural position and deprive us of that eyesore of Castillejo, who should definitely be on his way out this summer. This is not a circus damn it.

I gave credit to X for admitting he was wrong, I didn't say I was right. Too eager to contradict people, as always Han.

History tells us this pattern repeats - the difference this time is we actually got a little spell of seeing this fragile Milan top the table. And that was nice.

Guys I think Han is completely right.

I'm very perplexed with you vocabulary X-O, saying things like "our team plays like ****" or "they're a bunch of clowns" etc. Must be frustration. But we've gone to such lengths with Milan, I don't see the point in losing our nerves right now.

This is the first time in years we are playing for the Champions League and make a good run. It's a important step in stabilizing the club and bringing them back from the dead.

Now what I don't get is why this Football Manager attitude is still around. I don't think we have a roster full of shitty players no one wanted. I think we have a bunch of inexperienced talents, a few veterans that play very good and just too little rotational players who add something/can play consistently good.

Sure a bunch of mistakes were made. We got depleted with injuries, Pioli gets it wrong sometimes, our January market turned out disappointingly - but in the end, that's what a "restart" season usually means.


Agreed, but sometimes it comes down to sheer luck. Conte had his fair share of seasons with multiple muscular injuries.

I think (maybe COVID 19 had something to do with this?) the bigger problem is our athletic performance. Our team is simply not running enough and the stats are showing in (only sprints are good with us).


You've been harping on Ibra from moment 1. We all know his limitations.

I personally think that Belotti is no good. How good can a relegation team player be? Who's greatest achievement is becoming captain at Torino. Nothing won yet, 27 years old, never played a single big tournament,... I think he'll just be overpriced. If we want him, we should sign him on free.


Well, that's what we get now. This is our reality. There ain't that many consistently good players who are willing to risk and play for Milan. Why should they? I really think that Theo and Rebic are as good as it gets. Leao on the other hand is a whole different story...


Agreed. Playing Saelemaekers on RB however was a long forged idea, worth trying IMO-

Of course I'm frustrated. I'm pissed and disappointed because we were having such a great season, picking up from last, at least in terms of results. This downfall was unexpected and uncalled-for. We're making childish mistakes, not concentrating enough and not giving it all. In other words, we're back to square one.

One can only wonder was it all just happenstance then? Have we improved at all? Can we hold on to the first four place? Will next season be a repetition of the last 7-8? I thought we were past such questions but now everything has become a huge question mark again. Such a let down.

Again, you confuse me.

You ask if this was happenstance? If we improved at all? When was the last time Milan held the 2nd spot in the league during March? When was the last time we earned that many points by now?

Of course we improved.

Unexpected? Well children make childish mistakes, and we have a bunch of children in our team. We lack experience. We lack depth. Also, almost every team Pioli has managed by now got into such troubles exactly around January.