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post Oct 3 2020, 05:36 PM
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post Oct 3 2020, 09:54 PM
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SMFH...

Juventus are trying to force Napoli to forfeit tomorrow’s Serie A game 3-0, whereas the Partenopei argue they are banned from travelling due to COVID restrictions.

https://www.football-italia.net/160100/juve...postpone-napoli
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post Oct 3 2020, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Oct 3 2020, 09:54 PM) *
SMFH...

Juventus are trying to force Napoli to forfeit tomorrow’s Serie A game 3-0, whereas the Partenopei argue they are banned from travelling due to COVID restrictions.

https://www.football-italia.net/160100/juve...postpone-napoli


Juventus can't do jackshit. It's up to the FIGC to decide. Napoli have been denied travel by the local health authority due to Elmas also testing positive after Zielinsky yesterday.

As far as I know, the game simply has to be postponed, because local health authorities have higher jurisdiction than the FIGC about these matters.

It's a clusterfuck, really. They should have simply applied UEFA's policy that if at least 13 players are negative then the game has to be played. Otherwise, at this rate there'll be a shitload of games that will be postponed as the season goes on.
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post Oct 3 2020, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 3 2020, 06:05 PM) *
Juventus can't do jackshit. It's up to the FIGC to decide. Napoli have been denied travel by the local health authority due to Elmas also testing positive after Zielinsky yesterday.

As far as I know, the game simply has to be postponed, because local health authorities have higher jurisdiction than the FIGC about these matters.

It's a clusterfuck, really. They should have simply applied UEFA's policy that if at least 13 players are negative then the game has to be played. Otherwise, at this rate there'll be a shitload of games that will be postponed as the season goes on.

Football Italia's words, not mine...

But imo, it was a classless act... What Juventus could've done though was kept their mouth shut and waited for the FIGC to make a public statement... Which they now have apparently...

https://www.football-italia.net/160105/seri...head?mobile=off

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QUOTE (TriniKing_CE @ Oct 3 2020, 10:38 PM) *
Football Italia's words, not mine...

But imo, what Juventus could've done though was kept their mouth shut and waited for the FIGC to make a public statement... Which they now have apparently...

https://www.football-italia.net/160105/seri...head?mobile=off


Juventus were in the right. They got pissed about that idiotic decision. I would have too, if it was Milan. The game had to be played, simple as.
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post Oct 3 2020, 10:48 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 3 2020, 06:43 PM) *
Juventus were in the right. They got pissed about that idiotic decision. I would have too, if it was Milan. The game had to be played, simple as.

This league is in mess... I wouldn't be surprised if it's postponed across the board soon for how poorly they are responding to it all.

And imo it was still an unsportsmanlike gesture from Juve, but I can't say I'm surprised...
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post Oct 3 2020, 11:51 PM
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Seems like somebody really hates Juve. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I don't think it was unsportsmanlike. It wasn't against Napoli, it was to take a stand against these ridiculous decisions.
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post Oct 4 2020, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Oct 3 2020, 07:51 PM) *
Seems like somebody really hates Juve. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I don't think it was unsportsmanlike. It wasn't against Napoli, it was to take a stand against these ridiculous decisions.


I'm not saying you're wrong or I'm right, but we just clearly see it differently.

Lol I also don't really have anything specifically against Juventus.

But I would say that I believe anyone who is in a position of power (or in Juventus' case; has held dominance... over the league since inception).

They especially... should hold themselves accountable to codes of conduct and morality. In this case; sportsmanship. Not give the public reason to scrutinize and lambaste them for a lack of ethics.

I'm not sure I understand why you view it as a ridiculous decision tbh. If the rumors in the media are true that is, and they were barred from making the trip (given the current pandemic). I definitely think it should require them to act outside of their regular purview, and adopt compassion.

I may be thinking too much into it, but I really do believe while Juventus were within their right to say what they said... It was unnecessary and showed a lack of care or consideration for their opponent and their current challenges.

But it's whatever... I really do hope the FIGC gets their sh1t together though. Cuz the season has only just begun and it's already getting messy. I won't be surprised if the entire league gets postponed due to a lack of foresight in terms of procedures & processes for operating during a pandemic.

Failure to adhere to health guidelines or just common sense could make it bad for everyone. They've already (foolishly) decided to cutback on required testing of players for covid (to now currently just 48 hours prior to match days).

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post Oct 4 2020, 12:34 AM
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There seems to be a lot of conflicting reports on this at the moment though, so I'm taking everything with a grain of salt.

The latest collective agreement I've seen from news outlets and Twitter accounts is that Napoli are speaking to Serie A to avoid a forfeit in case they don't travel and are asking for a postponement. That much was expected.

We'll see how this unfolds (it started quite badly though)

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Players get infected, it's unavoidable at this point. PSG had at least 5 players testing positive before the first match of the season, they just played without them. We currently have Duarte and Zlatan out, but we're not avoiding games.

The decision from the Naples ASL is too rushed and drastic. They ran the second round of testing yesterday and only Elmas tested positive. I don't think that constitutes the basis for prohibiting the rest of the team from participating in the game.
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post Oct 4 2020, 12:18 PM
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Serie A is in danger of being postponed.
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post Oct 4 2020, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Oct 4 2020, 12:18 PM) *
Serie A is in danger of being postponed.


Says who? Only Juve-Napoli will be postponed.

Rumours that it's Napoli who made the decision not to travel to Turin, due to Zielinski and Elmas being two important players for them. Elmas was supposed to replace Insigne tonight who is injured.

This is getting ridiculous...
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post Oct 4 2020, 02:26 PM
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If Napoli are the ones not wanting to travel because they have players missing than that is a forfeit. The league and Juve as well should not go into the hassle of postponing the game simply because Napoli don't feel like travelling.

When I first thought that they were being stopped by the Naples authorities I thought it was an unsportsman like gesture from Juve. Because if they cannot play the game due to outside forces they should at least try to postpone.

But with the new details being revealed it seems like Napoli are trying to take advantage of the situation.
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post Oct 4 2020, 04:04 PM
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OFFICIAL LINE-UP: Donnarumma G.; Calabria, Kjær, Gabbia, Hernández; Tonali, Krunić; Saelemaekers, Díaz, Leão; Colombo.

I agree with the heavy rotation. After 5 games in two weeks and the 120 minutes of Portugal, it's a very reasonable move. Only thing I would have played Hauge from the start and moved Leao up front. Colombo has looked very mediocre in all his outings.
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Oct 4 2020, 10:26 AM) *
If Napoli are the ones not wanting to travel because they have players missing than that is a forfeit. The league and Juve as well should not go into the hassle of postponing the game simply because Napoli don't feel like travelling.

When I first thought that they were being stopped by the Naples authorities I thought it was an unsportsman like gesture from Juve. Because if they cannot play the game due to outside forces they should at least try to postpone.

But with the new details being revealed it seems like Napoli are trying to take advantage of the situation.

Agreed.
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