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Fillipo Simone
post Jul 11 2015, 10:14 AM
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Yes, agreed. May I just add that the Emery contact certainly was real.
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post Jul 11 2015, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 11 2015, 10:14 AM) *
Yes, agreed. May I just add that the Emery contact certainly was real.

Yeah, like I said, we probably made contact with him, but were we really very serious or just felt him out?

Gazzetta and Pedulla saying the fee is 16m for SES, have to say, that takes away a bit of its lustre, we should have tried to sell Menez for that amount not SES.

I hope we included a buy back clause at least. Would hate to see him going to one of the Spanish clubs for big money in the future when we sold him for just 16m. At least 20m made it look like a good deal for us
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post Jul 11 2015, 11:50 AM
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Sky reports that Monaco will pay €2m to loan El Shaarawy with a €15m buy-out clause that becomes mandatory after 15 matches.

Like I said, we're doing these guys a solid since they're strapped for cash. We should have tried to go in for Moutinho with a small amount of cash and offered SES in the deal. At least we'd have come out with a better deal.

17m for SES isn't all that good considering we paid 20m for Bertolacci
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post Jul 11 2015, 11:52 AM
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Btw, if he gets injured, then good luck trying to get him on the field 15 times. He could be back after this. So this certainly wasn't to get a cash injection for our budget...
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post Jul 11 2015, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 11 2015, 10:50 AM) *
Sky reports that Monaco will pay €2m to loan El Shaarawy with a €15m buy-out clause that becomes mandatory after 15 matches.

Like I said, we're doing these guys a solid since they're strapped for cash. We should have tried to go in for Moutinho with a small amount of cash and offered SES in the deal. At least we'd have come out with a better deal.

17m for SES isn't all that good considering we paid 20m for Bertolacci


It's 17M more than he's worth.

As for the clause, they're wise to put it in. He needs to prove his fitness and they're within their rights to test him first. He can pass a medical but can he pass the rigours of match football?

Thankfully Ligue 1 is milder than Serie A so it could actually be ok.
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post Jul 11 2015, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 11 2015, 02:12 PM) *
It's 17M more than he's worth.

As for the clause, they're wise to put it in. He needs to prove his fitness and they're within their rights to test him first. He can pass a medical but can he pass the rigours of match football?

Thankfully Ligue 1 is milder than Serie A so it could actually be ok.

You make him sound like a 40 year old couch potato who's never run a mile in his life.

SES has had his injury issues, but that's not like the rest of our players haven't. DS, Abate, Alex, SES, Montolivo have all come off seasons where they've spent more time our injured than fit, not to mention all the other random injuries that keep occurring in our squad. We rarely ever have a fully fit side, and this has been going on for years now.

It's a fact that all the young players we've had that played regular football in our team have suffered an endless cycle of injuries so this can't just be coincidence.

And yes, in this market SES is at least worth 20m, considering we paid 20m for Bertolacci who's had just as much good months in Serie A as SES.

I seriously do hope that Galliani will make swift moves for Ibra and Witsel or Romangoli this month because the majority of Milan fans will be livid by this
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post Jul 11 2015, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 11 2015, 01:50 PM) *
Sky reports that Monaco will pay €2m to loan El Shaarawy with a €15m buy-out clause that becomes mandatory after 15 matches.

Like I said, we're doing these guys a solid since they're strapped for cash. We should have tried to go in for Moutinho with a small amount of cash and offered SES in the deal. At least we'd have come out with a better deal.

17m for SES isn't all that good considering we paid 20m for Bertolacci


Nah, I think it's more than good enough. He's been plagued injuries, that kind of thing hits the market value pretty hard. Remember Pato? We let go of him for a meager sum.
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post Jul 11 2015, 02:45 PM
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http://www.football-italia.net/69036/menez-part-witsel-move

Menez might be included into the Witsel move. Yes please, if true.
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post Jul 11 2015, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Jul 11 2015, 02:45 PM) *
http://www.football-italia.net/69036/menez-part-witsel-move

Menez might be included into the Witsel move. Yes please, if true.

This is the best transfer news I have heard this summer
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post Jul 11 2015, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Jul 11 2015, 01:45 PM) *
http://www.football-italia.net/69036/menez-part-witsel-move

Menez might be included into the Witsel move. Yes please, if true.


I'm actually about to cry with joy over the news from the past two days.
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post Jul 11 2015, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 11 2015, 01:31 PM) *
You make him sound like a 40 year old couch potato who's never run a mile in his life.


No I don't.

Your stubborness is getting a little tiring Han. I mean that with respect.
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post Jul 11 2015, 03:41 PM
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If we part ways with both SES and Menez we'll be left with no second strikers, so Ibra's return becomes a must at that point.
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post Jul 11 2015, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 11 2015, 02:41 PM) *
If we part ways with both SES and Menez we'll be left with no second strikers, so Ibra's return becomes a must at that point.


We don't need a SS in a partnership. Just two different strikers; AKA Adriano and Bacca. If you mean behind them, then I wouldn't want Menez or SES there anyway. Witsel/Ibra would be perfect. Imagine the depth though; Bacca, Adriano, Witsel and Ibra.
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post Jul 11 2015, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 11 2015, 10:11 AM) *
Emery might have been an option, we don't know, and we might have approached him but Carlo is the one we made the real effort for imo.

Then we looked waaay down the pecking order of coaches and took the easy option with Miha. A coach who's never really achieved anything aside from one decent season with Samp, he failed with Serbia and with Fiorentina.

Yes, the fact that we don't have an amateur coaching us is an improvement, but it's still not saying much is it?

Players usually first look at the money, then CL football, then the coach/staff they'll be working with in that order. I don't know if we really have the money, we certainly don't have CL football and Mihajlovic isn't really an appealing coach like say Carlo would have been, or even Mancini.

I think we need to give Miha a chance. He may not have the same appeal as Mancini, but may not be that bad. (And frankly, I would not want Mancini as a coach. Let's see what he does with the players he got.)
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post Jul 11 2015, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE (Danny @ Jul 11 2015, 03:36 PM) *
No I don't.

Your stubborness is getting a little tiring Han. I mean that with respect.

"but can he pass the rigours of match football?"

It's not like he's never played a full match before...

So if I don't agree with someone I'm the stubborn one but the other person isn't? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Jul 11 2015, 04:16 PM) *
I think we need to give Miha a chance. He may not have the same appeal as Mancini, but may not be that bad. (And frankly, I would not want Mancini as a coach. Let's see what he does with the players he got.)

I'm not saying that I won't give him a chance. But he's certainly not someone I've ever wanted associated with Milan, let alone been my first choice for coach.



Menez + 20m for Witsel should be more than enough. Just do it!!

If Juve sell one of their mids, expect them to go in for him (as per his agent's words) so we better get a move on this ASAP
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