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Jul 3 2015, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 3 2015, 04:59 PM)  Apparently Galliani murmured to Silvio "We're very close" at some point during the press conference, and media are speculating they were talking about Ibra. (IMG: http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx124/ohkimosabe/8wblubjpg.gif)
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Jul 4 2015, 03:02 AM
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Who knows. Maybe Galliani only tried to say that Berul should wrap it up with his speech.
Anyway. What do you guys think, and this is only hypothetical, would you rather have Bertolacci, Bacca and Adriano or pile that money up and launch a bid for, say, Thiago Silva? Hypothetically speaking he's a world class player who, I'm sure, would say yes to Milan, even without CL and this level we are at.
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Jul 4 2015, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 4 2015, 03:02 AM)  Who knows. Maybe Galliani only tried to say that Berul should wrap it up with his speech.
Anyway. What do you guys think, and this is only hypothetical, would you rather have Bertolacci, Bacca and Adriano or pile that money up and launch a bid for, say, Thiago Silva? Hypothetically speaking he's a world class player who, I'm sure, would say yes to Milan, even without CL and this level we are at. Thiago is a closed chapter imo, I can't see him playing for us again anytime soon. You're right about the money we've already spent though, would have rather signed a top CB or CM with that 58m than 2 strikers who still need proper service to be productive and an average Serie A mid that we overpaid by 10m or so for... I seriously don't get the Bertolacci deal the most tbh. If I were going for any Serie A player worth that money I would have gone for Udine's Allan. Great all rounder and would have fit in nicely in the box-to-box slot next to De Jong, one other CM and we would have been set in midfield. Bertolacci is not a box-to-box guy, he's a direct AM, he doesn't really pull much weight defensively either. Just a strange choice all round imo, especially for the money that we paid. For me, the dream signing in defence right now would be Laporte. And that's the only player we should have broken the bank for, not Bacca or Bertolacci. I'm thinking Bilbao would want nothing less than 40m for him. But the potential this guy has would more than make up for that high fee QUOTE (William405 @ Jul 4 2015, 04:54 AM)  For the meager price we sold Thiago Silva, we should've included a buy-back clause. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Stupidest deal in the history of Milan if not football... And to think how much PSG spent on Marquinhos and Luiz after that makes it an even bigger bitter pill to swallow
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Jul 4 2015, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 4 2015, 01:25 PM)  Thiago is a closed chapter imo, I can't see him playing for us again anytime soon.
You're right about the money we've already spent though, would have rather signed a top CB or CM with that 58m than 2 strikers who still need proper service to be productive and an average Serie A mid that we overpaid by 10m or so for...
I seriously don't get the Bertolacci deal the most tbh. If I were going for any Serie A player worth that money I would have gone for Udine's Allan. Great all rounder and would have fit in nicely in the box-to-box slot next to De Jong, one other CM and we would have been set in midfield.
Bertolacci is not a box-to-box guy, he's a direct AM, he doesn't really pull much weight defensively either. Just a strange choice all round imo, especially for the money that we paid.
For me, the dream signing in defence right now would be Laporte. And that's the only player we should have broken the bank for, not Bacca or Bertolacci. I'm thinking Bilbao would want nothing less than 40m for him. But the potential this guy has would more than make up for that high fee Honestly, I don't see it that way. We got rid of a lot of dead wood, while replacing them with players that can give significant contribution. We paid a very small price for Luiz Adriano, and from his numbers, you can see that he is not just another Pazzini or Destro. Bacca's the same. Both of them have been doing well recently, and are bound to give an added push. We paid too much for Bertolacci, I agree. Though, he is young, and honestly you can't say he's mediocre or mid table. His story is yet to be written! I'd agree with you if you're judging from the end of the transfer season, but we're not even half way through. No where is there an indication that we're stopping our signings here. At the moment though, we rejuvenated our front-line. If Ibra comes, that's a big bonus. We don't have anyone in midfield that can clog our play like Muntari or Essien. We need that one play-maker, although, we can possibly have them in Suso or Honda even. Mihajlovic was speaking of playing El Sharaawy as a left midfielder(although, I don't think it's a good idea), so some solutions might come from inside the squad itself. We can't consider Honda a striker/winger, he failed terribly at that. So, either consider him as an AM or a CM. Well anyway summing it up, the squad has potential even in its "preliminary" form. While, I'm all for getting the play-maker that we really need, we should be aware that we also have some talent in the squad that have been mismanaged and can serve us well come next year.
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Jul 4 2015, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE (acid911 @ Jul 4 2015, 05:56 AM)  I'd rather get Ibra and Hummels and be done with this market. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Save the rest for the winter. Silva is still a great buy, but not sure PSG will sell him back to us, or sell him period. He's their captain and even with his injuries remains an integral part of that team. Plus, he can always come back for another spell with us two years down the road. Can't agree more, man. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/king.gif) It'll be a good enough squad to compete for the top 3, and maybe more. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)
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Jul 4 2015, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE (William405 @ Jul 4 2015, 11:35 AM)  Honestly, I don't see it that way. We got rid of a lot of dead wood, while replacing them with players that can give significant contribution. We paid a very small price for Luiz Adriano, and from his numbers, you can see that he is not just another Pazzini or Destro. Bacca's the same. Both of them have been doing well recently, and are bound to give an added push.
We paid too much for Bertolacci, I agree. Though, he is young, and honestly you can't say he's mediocre or mid table. His story is yet to be written!
I'd agree with you if you're judging from the end of the transfer season, but we're not even half way through. No where is there an indication that we're stopping our signings here.
At the moment though, we rejuvenated our front-line. If Ibra comes, that's a big bonus.
We don't have anyone in midfield that can clog our play like Muntari or Essien. We need that one play-maker, although, we can possibly have them in Suso or Honda even. Mihajlovic was speaking of playing El Sharaawy as a left midfielder(although, I don't think it's a good idea), so some solutions might come from inside the squad itself.
We can't consider Honda a striker/winger, he failed terribly at that. So, either consider him as an AM or a CM.
Well anyway summing it up, the squad has potential even in its "preliminary" form. While, I'm all for getting the play-maker that we really need, we should be aware that we also have some talent in the squad that have been mismanaged and can serve us well come next year. Not judging the mercato or saying that it's a bad one, just that 58m could have been more smartly invested. Bacca and Adriano aren't as limited as Pazzo or Matri, but they still need service to be productive. They're both target men, neither one of them is a creative second striker. If Ibra comes that's a huge problem solved in terms of creativity and creating goal scoring opportunities. If we want to challenge Juve it's probably not enough but if we get Ibra we're already set for the top 3 imo. Imo, we need 3 more players to be competitive at Juve's level. 1 top CB, 1 top CM and Ibra. Galliani manages that and this will be a squad worthy of fighting Juve for the title. Also, I'm very happy that we let certain players go and will continue to work in removing certain leeches from the roster, that's already a big plus. I think what Miha said about SES and got lost in translation is that he can play the AM role. Which is where he played at Padova, personally can't see that as a viable option tbh. SES's best attributes are pace and finishing. Certainly not creativity/vision and dribbling We'll see. This is all just conjecture based on the squad we have now, 2 or 3 new players will change everything dramatically. For the rest of the summer, I'm personally expecting 6 or 7 other departures and 4 or 5 new additions (considering that Mauri will be signed by Monday)
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Jul 4 2015, 01:15 PM
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This wasn't meant to be a discussion about particular players (my fault). My question was, are you happy with Bertolacci, Bacca and Adriano or would you rather pile up that cash and bid for one more expensive player?
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Jul 4 2015, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jul 4 2015, 03:06 PM)  Not judging the mercato or saying that it's a bad one, just that 58m could have been more smartly invested.
Bacca and Adriano aren't as limited as Pazzo or Matri, but they still need service to be productive. They're both target men, neither one of them is a creative second striker.
If Ibra comes that's a huge problem solved in terms of creativity and creating goal scoring opportunities. If we want to challenge Juve it's probably not enough but if we get Ibra we're already set for the top 3 imo.
Imo, we need 3 more players to be competitive at Juve's level. 1 top CB, 1 top CM and Ibra. Galliani manages that and this will be a squad worthy of fighting Juve for the title.
Also, I'm very happy that we let certain players go and will continue to work in removing certain leeches from the roster, that's already a big plus.
I think what Miha said about SES and got lost in translation is that he can play the AM role. Which is where he played at Padova, personally can't see that as a viable option tbh. SES's best attributes are pace and finishing. Certainly not creativity/vision and dribbling
We'll see. This is all just conjecture based on the squad we have now, 2 or 3 new players will change everything dramatically.
For the rest of the summer, I'm personally expecting 6 or 7 other departures and 4 or 5 new additions (considering that Mauri will be signed by Monday) Yes, I agree, they still need service. But, when they do get it..they're much better than what we had before! So, I see that as a major improvement in this area. Of-course, improvement should be all around the field and no in just one position. With respect to El Sharaawy, I watched the youtube video, and he DID in fact say he might play him as an internal midfielder, or at least test him out. I doubt it'll work out, because of what you said. My point being was that we have some talent in the squad that might be utilized in the midfield position/attacking midfield position..namely Honda and Suso respectively. Also, yeah I agree 1 top CB/1 top CM and Ibra would be more than enough. IMO Juve this year are weaker, I remember someone stating that point over here. They lost Tevez and Pirlo, that's a big loss IMO. Yes, they got really "good/talented" players in return, but they're losing two world class players..not good/talented ones. Although, it's always their Scudetto to lose no matter what. They have the advantage being crowned champions for four years in a row now.
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Jul 4 2015, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 4 2015, 03:15 PM)  This wasn't meant to be a discussion about particular players (my fault). My question was, are you happy with Bertolacci, Bacca and Adriano or would you rather pile up that cash and bid for one more expensive player? I'm happy with Bertolacci, Bacca and Adriano. Wouldn't have piled up the catch and bid for a more expensive one. In my view, we rejuvenated the attack and got a player with good potential in midfield. As always, Milan will need this one big star to set it apart from the rest, and that will hopefully be in Ibra.
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Jul 4 2015, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE (Fillipo Simone @ Jul 4 2015, 01:15 PM)  This wasn't meant to be a discussion about particular players (my fault). My question was, are you happy with Bertolacci, Bacca and Adriano or would you rather pile up that cash and bid for one more expensive player? I think it depends on how we look at it. Were the 2 players we were going to get before worth the 75-80m we would have paid for them? Because that's what Jackson and Kondogbia would have ended up costing us in just transfer fees. We have 3 players for a lot less than that now. But would I have preferred if the 58m went into someone of real top class/world class quality? Yes, obviously. Especially for a creative mid or CB
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Jul 4 2015, 04:52 PM
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By the way, I'm still pissed at Bacca for choosing #70. Yes, laugh all you want, but odd numbers are a huge pet peeve of mine. Can't stand them!
You know, in Japanese Bacca means stupid, albeit it's written 'bakka'. I'd say it fits him to a tee, wouldn't you agree?
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Jul 4 2015, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jul 4 2015, 08:52 PM)  By the way, I'm still pissed at Bacca for choosing #70. Yes, laugh all you want, but odd numbers are a huge pet peeve of mine. Can't stand them!
You know, in Japanese Bacca means stupid, albeit it's written 'bakka'. I'd say it fits him to a tee, wouldn't you agree? and Kaka' means shite in many languages (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) My guess is he wants the number 7 but its taken so he took 70 Balotelli took 45 because he couldn't have 9.. Meh could not careless what number they have on the back of there shirts they can change there not set in stone... as long as they are scoring goals and winning matches with those goals could not care less imo. we still need a proper defence and midfield , feels like our management is playing Fifa or Football manager buying so much attack.
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