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Jun 21 2015, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Jun 21 2015, 03:41 PM) Both sourced from FI .... Yeah Galliani is the idiot isn't he (IMG: style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif) Can't you see that he made a mistake here? Yes, ultimately it was both players' decisions, but he had the okay from both of them. Once he had that he should have acted immediately and locked them down. 2 weeks for Martinez and nothing official after everything was agreed upon, how is that not his mistake? At the end of the day we might have dodged a bullet with both, I wasn't too excited about either, but that's not the point of this. Galliani needs to get with the times or we'll be in for a very rude awakening this summer We need to go after realistic targets who fit into the coach's plans. Quality mids, a quality CB and a quality striker in that order. And yet, what are we hearing now? That we're about to go on a goose chase for Cavani who will cost even more than Martinez and is still a striker who needs service to produce good scoring numbers. And Bertolacci, an average Italian midfielder, not like we're not filled to the brim with those... I seriously do still hope that I'm wrong, that I will be swallowing lemons by September and that Galliani pulls something out of his sleeve that will surprise us and make us all happy, but I can't see that happening atm, having money is not enough.
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Jun 21 2015, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 21 2015, 04:47 PM) I think it not about getting worked up, but seeing Milan getting humiliated like this simply doesn't sit well
Look at Juve. They just cake walked all over the league and got to the CL final and yet they have closed deals for important players, could sign Jovetic and Oscar as well.
See the difference in ambition?
They want something, they get it done.
Us on the other hand barely made it to a mid-table classification and are dilly-dallying around, went in for 2 players and lost out on both at the last hurdle because we have an incompetent negotiator. Now we're going after impossible targets like Cavani for the attack and incompetent ones like Bertolacci for the midfield.
Sorry guys, we might have a few more dollars lying around but nothing has changed.
It's what I feared before, trusting Galliani to handle things will be the undoing of us this summer I agree Juve is showing us how it's done, not sure about Inter, though. FWIW, if it was up to me I would have not paid what they did for Kondogbia, and I am not sure I would sign a player without a medical either. So, despite my general unhappiness with Galliani (and the negative press we are getting), I am not sure he did the wrong thing this time around. What matters is where we go from here. I agree we need quality mids and D's before we worry about strikers. In general, I share the frustration and I am not overly optimistic based on what has transpired so far, but will (try to) be patient (for now).
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Jun 21 2015, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE (Forza Milan! @ Jun 21 2015, 04:04 PM) I agree Juve is showing us how it's done, not sure about Inter, though. FWIW, if it was up to me I would have not paid what they did for Kondogbia, and I am not sure I would sign a player without a medical either. So, despite my general unhappiness with Galliani (and the negative press we are getting), I am not sure he did the wrong thing this time around. What matters is where we go from here.
I agree we need quality mids and D's before we worry about strikers.
In general, I share the frustration and I am not overly optimistic based on what has transpired so far, but will (try to) be patient (for now). Juve have spent what? 90m? It's the 21st of June and they've pretty much already done all the business that needed to be done aside from maybe 1 CB. And this while basically already having next years league in their pocket That's how things are done by a professional club who is ambitious and serious about its future. Galliani simply goes where the tides take him and this has been very obvious for years now A Medical is a formality in most cases, sure on rare occasions there's something wrong with the player but these are very rare occasions, like for example finding something wrong with a player's teeth (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Like I said in my other post, we could have dodged 2 huge bullets with these deals falling through. Martinez is 29 years old and buying him for 35m when he's never played in a top league was worrying, I wasn't all that excited about it. Kondogbia might be a huge talent, but not at what Inter will end up paying for his services which will go up to nearly a 100m by the time his contract is up. That's simply ridiculous and not worth it. I'd rather spend that kind of money on a creator. But the failure in these deals is not about just losing out on the players. It's what they signify about Galliani's inadequacy in today's footballing climate. Had we signed those players for 75m it would have been a huge statement, and signing other top player would also have been easier as they would have believed in the Milan project, a project that is ambitious and aiming for instant success. Reports saying that Inter will most likely have to sacrifice 3 of their midfielders with this Kondogbia deal. I'd go in and take Kovacic and Hernanes or Guarin off their hands and that would be for less than what they paid for Kondogbia. Now that would be smart and shrewd on Galliani's part and would make me believe that the wily fox that got Pirlo and Seedorf still exists in there
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Jun 21 2015, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Jun 21 2015, 05:57 PM) It's not about missing out on these players, but it's how it happened. The multiple flights, fancy dinners, selfies, Milan Channel statements etc. In the end, it amounted to nothing but a charade, and we ended up looking like donkeys. Il Corriere was saying today how what happened yesterday has severely damaged Milan's image, and they are right. We've become the laughing stock of Europe. So, of course I'm going to get emotional about it. I'm sure this is not the first time nor the last time a huge club has missed out on certain players. It happens look at how we played Man City with Kaka' way back when... just look at what happened at United a couple of seasons ago with Moyes and the kid from spain...that debacle. You can do what you like man get emotional , scream at the tv/computer screen as loud as you want but in the end its Galliani and co that will either bring home the goods or not , before a ball has even been kicked. I sincerely hope we get the right players for what the team needs , plug the gaps and go from there. Ladies and Gents to remind you all we have 52 days left of the transfer window so either hold on tight (if that's your thing) or live your life and don't worry about it. I will be doing the latter on a sandy beach somewhere waiting and keeping my fingers crossed. Forza Milan ciao!
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Jun 21 2015, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 21 2015, 11:52 AM) Can't you see that he made a mistake here?
Yes, ultimately it was both players' decisions, but he had the okay from both of them. Once he had that he should have acted immediately and locked them down. 2 weeks for Martinez and nothing official after everything was agreed upon, how is that not his mistake?
At the end of the day we might have dodged a bullet with both, I wasn't too excited about either, but that's not the point of this.
Galliani needs to get with the times or we'll be in for a very rude awakening this summer
We need to go after realistic targets who fit into the coach's plans. Quality mids, a quality CB and a quality striker in that order.
And yet, what are we hearing now? That we're about to go on a goose chase for Cavani who will cost even more than Martinez and is still a striker who needs service to produce good scoring numbers. And Bertolacci, an average Italian midfielder, not like we're not filled to the brim with those...
I seriously do still hope that I'm wrong, that I will be swallowing lemons by September and that Galliani pulls something out of his sleeve that will surprise us and make us all happy, but I can't see that happening atm, having money is not enough. Would you have rather Martinez was signed without undergoing a medical? I imagine Columbia doesn't want any potential distractions while the Copa is underway. Totally understandable for a team that has aspirations of winning the thing or at least proving they belong with Brazil and Argentina. It is of course in Martinez's interest to continue shopping around while pen hasn't been put to paper. The Kondogbia thing is a bit more on Galliani but when insane money is being thrown around by Inter there isn't much he can do. They are in a pretty much identical situation to us right now and even in the same city. Why wouldn't a player take the substantially bigger payday if it's offered to him? yes, Mancini's influence could be a partial factor but in my opinion money talks and Inter was doing more talking. As to why we are always chasing strikers early in the window, I think it comes down to the fact that everyone else is chasing strikers then. If you don't act on them early they will all be gone by the time you get around to it. A great center back isn't as flashy a buy and they don't get the same media coverage/rumors.
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Jun 21 2015, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE (han2503 @ Jun 21 2015, 12:13 PM) Juve have spent what? 90m? It's the 21st of June and they've pretty much already done all the business that needed to be done aside from maybe 1 CB. And this while basically already having next years league in their pocket That's how things are done by a professional club who is ambitious and serious about its future. Galliani simply goes where the tides take him and this has been very obvious for years now A Medical is a formality in most cases, sure on rare occasions there's something wrong with the player but these are very rare occasions, like for example finding something wrong with a player's teeth (IMG: style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Like I said in my other post, we could have dodged 2 huge bullets with these deals falling through. Martinez is 29 years old and buying him for 35m when he's never played in a top league was worrying, I wasn't all that excited about it. Kondogbia might be a huge talent, but not at what Inter will end up paying for his services which will go up to nearly a 100m by the time his contract is up. That's simply ridiculous and not worth it. I'd rather spend that kind of money on a creator. But the failure in these deals is not about just losing out on the players. It's what they signify about Galliani's inadequacy in today's footballing climate. Had we signed those players for 75m it would have been a huge statement, and signing other top player would also have been easier as they would have believed in the Milan project, a project that is ambitious and aiming for instant success. Reports saying that Inter will most likely have to sacrifice 3 of their midfielders with this Kondogbia deal. I'd go in and take Kovacic and Hernanes or Guarin off their hands and that would be for less than what they paid for Kondogbia. Now that would be smart and shrewd on Galliani's part and would make me believe that the wily fox that got Pirlo and Seedorf still exists in there To put it quite simply, we aren't in Juve's league right now. That is a team that just went to the Champions League Final and has dominated Serie A for the past four years. Players call that team to try and come, they don't have to fight to convince them of a project. We need Galliani to be shrewd, convincing, and throw good money at great players. It's not an easy job. I would be ok with adding any of those three at the right price.
This post has been edited by milanbuf88: Jun 21 2015, 04:57 PM
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