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post Apr 27 2015, 10:04 AM
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Apparently it was De Jong.
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post Apr 27 2015, 10:48 AM
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The only players who would have any entitlement to say it to him would be Abate, De Jong and one or two others.

De Jong, while not fantastic this season, remains our best player, and you can tell his heart isn't in it anymore thanks to Pippo.

He is 100% cert to leave for Utd this summer.
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post Apr 27 2015, 11:15 AM
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To be honest i don't care whether he's the best player on our team or in the world,if he actually said that, then he might as well piss off! I sick of the players we have these days, bunch of b*******.
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post Apr 27 2015, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE (nuh @ Apr 27 2015, 01:15 PM) *
To be honest i don't care whether he's the best player on our team or in the world,if he actually said that, then he might as well piss off! I sick of the players we have these days, bunch of b*******.

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post Apr 27 2015, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE (nuh @ Apr 27 2015, 07:15 AM) *
To be honest i don't care whether he's the best player on our team or in the world,if he actually said that, then he might as well piss off! I sick of the players we have these days, bunch of b*******.


Are you of the opinion that all players should endure in silence regardless of how awful their manager is? He is a manager not a dictator and his incompetence has very real effects on their lives and future career opportunities. This isn't someone bailing at the first sign of trouble. Pippo is in way over his head and you can only flail fruitlessly for so long before you lose the locker room.
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QUOTE (nuh @ Apr 27 2015, 11:15 AM) *
To be honest i don't care whether he's the best player on our team or in the world,if he actually said that, then he might as well piss off! I sick of the players we have these days, bunch of b*******.


I'm actually glad someone said that to him. Pippo is a joke. If he had any balls or dignity he would hsve resigned long ago. It pains me to talk like this about someone I have admired for years, but that's what he's become nowadays. And it's all up to him.
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post Apr 27 2015, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE (X-Offender @ Apr 27 2015, 02:27 PM) *
I'm actually glad someone said that to him. Pippo is a joke. If he had any balls or dignity he would hsve resigned long ago. It pains me to talk like this about someone I have admired for years, but that's what he's become nowadays. And it's all up to him.

Yep this

Management obviously don't want to sack him (Galliani mostly since Pippo was his brilliant idea unlike Seedorf). The dignified thing to do would have been to resign months ago.

There's only so much that the players will tolerate, and imo, he lost the locker room a long time ago, this isn't something that's just cropping up now
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post Apr 27 2015, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Apr 27 2015, 02:13 PM) *
Are you of the opinion that all players should endure in silence regardless of how awful their manager is? He is a manager not a dictator and his incompetence has very real effects on their lives and future career opportunities. This isn't someone bailing at the first sign of trouble. Pippo is in way over his head and you can only flail fruitlessly for so long before you lose the locker room.

I understand what you mean but this would apply if the previous season didn't happen, it would apply if this season was seen as a fluke. But unfortunately its not, 90% of this team have been under performing for the past 2 years now. I understand that Inzaghi is a **** manager but at the end of the day it can't be that all 3 managers are at fault, the players need to accept that their not putting 100% into the team and are disgracing the fans. Seedorf apparently wasn't getting along with the team either, it can't be that the players are always right. Whether Inzaghi is right for the job or not isn't any of their business, their paid to go out on the pitch and die for ur club, but thats not whats happening for majority of the team. At the end of the day they should accept Inzaghi's criticism as he's accomplished more with this club than any of them ever will. The thing you need to realise is that almost every single player was praising inzaghi at the start of the season but as soon as **** hits the fan they turn on him, this whole season inzaghi has been backing them and blaming himself (he even got into an argument with Boban as a result) but the players aren't making his life easier but putting in half assed performances.
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QUOTE (nuh @ Apr 27 2015, 10:15 AM) *
To be honest i don't care whether he's the best player on our team or in the world,if he actually said that, then he might as well piss off! I sick of the players we have these days, bunch of b*******.


See, this is the kind of attitude I'm failing to grasp - why is Pippo allowed to criticise the players without them being allowed to criticise him?

Why is this only one way?

He's been a dire manager and if him being manager makes him immune to criticism then that's far more deeply worrying than what any player may or may not have said to him.
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post Apr 27 2015, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (nuh @ Apr 27 2015, 03:03 PM) *
I understand what you mean but this would apply if the previous season didn't happen, it would apply if this season was seen as a fluke. But unfortunately its not, 90% of this team have been under performing for the past 2 years now. I understand that Inzaghi is a **** manager but at the end of the day it can't be that all 3 managers are at fault, the players need to accept that their not putting 100% into the team and are disgracing the fans. Seedorf apparently wasn't getting along with the team either, it can't be that the players are always right. Whether Inzaghi is right for the job or not isn't any of their business, their paid to go out on the pitch and die for ur club, but thats not whats happening for majority of the team. At the end of the day they should accept Inzaghi's criticism as he's accomplished more with this club than any of them ever will. The thing you need to realise is that almost every single player was praising inzaghi at the start of the season but as soon as **** hits the fan they turn on him, this whole season inzaghi has been backing them and blaming himself (he even got into an argument with Boban as a result) but the players aren't making his life easier but putting in half assed performances.


They did accept his criticism though! They just pointed out he was equally as worthless.
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QUOTE (nuh @ Apr 27 2015, 10:15 AM) *
To be honest i don't care whether he's the best player on our team or in the world,if he actually said that, then he might as well piss off! I sick of the players we have these days, bunch of b*******.


PS I do agree I'm sick and tired of our crappy players these days, but that doesn't make the comment less valid.
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post Apr 27 2015, 04:15 PM
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Agreed with that nuh, there does not remain a single player on this team that understands what it takes to lift a CL trophy. Having Inzaghi as a rookie debuting in professional football has its cons, but he was given the job for a reason ... And lossing the dressing room in such a manner is cause for alarm, that the players themselves are not of the standards that Milan are accustomed to. That is discipline, which is the essence of a steady ship.
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post Apr 27 2015, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE (nuh @ Apr 27 2015, 04:03 PM) *
Seedorf apparently wasn't getting along with the team either, it can't be that the players are always right.


The only players who didn't like Seedorf were the ones he didn't hold in high regards (Abbiati, Abate, Bonera, Montolivo, i.e. the so-called senators of today's Milan). They rebelled, got Galliani to back them (because Galliani didn't want Seedorf either) and complained to Berlusconi.

Sure, Seedorf didn't make his life easier with his egotistical behavior, but at least his results spoke for themselves: 11 wins, 2 draws and 6 losses is not bad when you consider the position the team was when he took over. Not to mention the abruptness of his hiring (no preparation, no experience whatsoever etc.). Allegri before him and Inzaghi now have done much, much worse.

In hindsight, Seedorf's sacking was a very mean and cowardly thing to do. Surely they could have talked it over and came to an agreement. But Galliani is like that. He backs the coaches he hires to death (Ancelotti, Leonardo, Allegri, Inzaghi) even when they are beyond redemption, and is ready to finger the ones he doesn't want as soon as the opportunity presents itself.
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QUOTE (Rossoneri7 @ Apr 27 2015, 04:15 PM) *
Agreed with that nuh, there does not remain a single player on this team that understands what it takes to lift a CL trophy. Having Inzaghi as a rookie debuting in professional football has its cons, but he was given the job for a reason ... And lossing the dressing room in such a manner is cause for alarm, that the players themselves are not of the standards that Milan are accustomed to. That is discipline, which is the essence of a steady ship.


Precisely! That is why Inzaghi or any other rookie for that matter are not suited for this job. This team needs discipline, and someone as young, inexperienced and uncharismatic as Pippo can never attain that. These players need someone like Simeone or Mihajlovic, or even Klopp, who can get them back to earth and lift their spirits. Otherwise, it's pointless.
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QUOTE (milanbuf88 @ Apr 27 2015, 04:13 PM) *
Are you of the opinion that all players should endure in silence regardless of how awful their manager is? He is a manager not a dictator and his incompetence has very real effects on their lives and future career opportunities. This isn't someone bailing at the first sign of trouble. Pippo is in way over his head and you can only flail fruitlessly for so long before you lose the locker room.


The locker room should follow the coach. The players have no business deciding this coach is good or not, that is an issue for their employers. They must focus on the next game, on how they performed in the last game and to give 100% in Inzaghi's training sessions. They must show strength and take ownership of the shirt, make it a responsibility every time you are on the field in a professional match you do what your coach asks of you and you give 100%. That is it.

Cause that last match was a disgrace. Had Inzaghi put on his shorts and boots, he'd have more desire than any of those outfield players on that day. But he cant do that and there is only so much you can do. As nuh stated, three coaches tried to get these lads to shift gears but it is not happening.
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