He usually doesn't lose it when he is making the pass (although that did happen today - in dangerous areas as well) he loses it because he has to take about 4 to 5 touches every time before he can decide where he wants to pass it. Just like that stupid touch he made that lead to the shot and corner which lead to the second goal. And when he does need all that time, he's usually just crowded off it. There was one action where he lost it 3 times consecutively, one after the other.

Taking a touch like that in a crowded penalty area is the definition of what stupid is

I never claimed that he gave up the ball every time. His stupid give away did directly lead to the corner Juve scored from though. He and Essien have been completely overrun in midfield.

FT 3-1. Flashes of good moments but not enough focus and the midfield got run over.

Only 5 pages for a big game like this? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Almost as depressing as Muntari in midfield (IMG:style_emoticons/default/96.gif)

I'm lost for words.

Pippo is probably the most disgusting manager we've ever had.

Those subs summed us up, and word is Poli had an altercation with Inzaghi after he got hauled off.

I'm just sick fed up of this w*nker ruining our team.

No offence Kurt old friend but is this really your only contribution to the thread? To defend Muntari?

Rant time:

Well, where do we begin? First off I commend the defence - given what we had available it was actually a decent selection and over the course of the match didn't perform too badly. Its problem was trying to bail out the fucking shocking midfield - the first goal was a prime example of Paletta and Alex being too high because Muntari and Essien were AWOL and they got caught for pace - neither defender is exactly Zapata so Tevez only had to jog to score.

Attack was just abysmal but then, three games aside, Honda has been a complete joke since he joined us and is starting to utterly frustrate me. He doesn't create anything, all he does is pass inside or backwards. He has no attacking contribution at all.

Menez was injured early on and unable to influence the match and Cerci was just well marshalled at the back.

But that midfield. Pippo, you d*ck. You had a chance to pick a team that might actually be able to do something, guys like Suso, Bonaventura, and Van Ginkel, but you elect to make captain the most disgraceful player in Serie A who's brought shame upon this club over and over again, while putting Essien in as sitting mid - that second decision was less of a gamble given we had few DMs but his form recently has been poor. Tonight it was tragic. But guess what - it was our best midfielder who got taken off while Pinky and Perky remained on the pitch.

Pippo has gone beyond pissing me off and is now clearly trying to ruin Milan. Where I saw logic and reason in most things Allegri did, even if the occasional decision was questionable, almost all of Pippo's management is as if he's playing a bugged version of FM2015.

Fucking ratings:

Lopez: 6 One stunning save and a lot of good work but made a hash of the second goal.

Zaccardo: 6 I'll be fair, he was ok and stopped more down the left than he let through.

Alex: 6 Decent enough but left totally exposed by midfield.

Paletta: 6 Same as Alex.

Antonelli: 7 Had a good match, fairly tight at the back and fine goal. He should retain his place but will he f*ck - Pippo will ditch him for Bonera the minute he's fit.

Essien: 2 Diabolical. Broke up nothing, lost the ball repeatedly, looked completely bewildered.

Muntari: 5 Yes. 5. He made some mental errors as always but the high pressing especially in the first half (Seedorf's model) was mostly down to him. He worked hard and while he'd have been better off on the bench, he worked like a dog. But faded really badly as the HT approached and needed removed. Like Essien.

Poli: 6 Tidy display, outmuscled at times particularly by Chiellini but can feel appalled at being removed.

Honda: 2 Hopeless. Just offers nothing and hasn't for 99% of his Milan career.

Menez: N/A

Cerci: 4 Weak. Didn't get any joy till later on - seems to improve as defenders tire.

Subs:

Pazzo: 2 Didn't do much of note.

Bona: 4 Quiet.

Rami: N/A

Pippo: 0 I just have no idea what he's doing, and neither does he. I love Pippo the player, the legend, but the manager is a leg-end and so painfully out of his depth it's embarrassing.

Expected.

If only Muntari was on the bench, we would have won this gqme easily. But as you stated, those give-aways of his. Wonder why every coach we had started him (IMG:style_emoticons/default/innocent.gif)

Cause we have had terrible coaches? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)

Don't bother William, this is R7's shtick nowadays...

No one said we'd win had Muntari not played, but had he and Essien not been in midfield, maybe we would not have gotten overrun in the manner that we did, simple as that.

Muntari and Essien constantly getting caught out on the ball and fumbling it is the reason why Pogba, Vidal and Pirlo ran riot, simple as that. And then Pippo has the audacity to take off Poli, the only player in that midfield doing anything right and decent and leaving those 2 on summed up his managerial expertise.

My earlier post in this thread said it all

Essien, Muntari and Poli vs Marchisio, Pogba, Pirlo and Vidal. Says it all and shows the glaring gulf in quality between the 2 sides

To his defense Allegri did win the league with us. And of-course Juventus are buffoons (lesser buffoons than B&G, yet still buffoons) for hiring him.

The other two are rookies, nobody expected much from either. Except if Inzaghi subbed himself in (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

http://www.football-italia.net/62392/conte...is-meeting-figc

Conte on the brink of resigning. And looking like he'll take up our reins in June. Or earlier.

As much as I can't stand Muntari, the reason we got overrun was sheer numbers, and the fact Essien looked absolutely lost. Muntari, poor though he was on the ball, was decent off it, and worked hard pressing high up. It's why we spent an actual decent amount of time in their half first half.

You said it yourself - we put 3 guys up v 4. Tactically that was way off. Especially when Essien was physically capable of doing a single thing right.

But another match threads ends up about Sulley f*ckin' Muntari.

I don't like him but our problems are not him. They're the guy picking him and others in the wrong position.